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superbowlbound 01-05-2010 10:44 PM

[Barroom Speculation] Brandon Marshall to the Texans?
 
Let me preface this by saying I got this information just now in a bar, so take it for what it's worth, which probably isn't much. I've heard from 2 different people that they're hearing rumors of a possible trade for Brandon Marshall. They're hearing second rounder. 2 questions: have any of you heard anything similar, and would you do this deal? Arizona and new England would have nothing on us with angry dre on one side and b-marsh on the other with a healthy Owen daniels back in the mix. That's for sure

HPF Bob 01-05-2010 11:44 PM

In terms of talent, it's a steal. In terms of attitude, it's a huge risk. Marshall wants to be paid like a #1 receiver (Denver was still paying him off his rookie contract as -IIRC- a fourth-round draft pick). He's not going to be #1 in Houston so he'd have to mentally adjust to fewer balls his way.

I know the Denver message boards want a first and a third but I think they got spoiled with the Cutler deal and overestimate what it would cost to get him.

My money, though, would be on him going to Washington now that Shanahan has signed there. Chicago would be a possibility but they've already sent away their #1 in the Cutler trade so, likely no.

If it only cost a #2 and contract parameters were hammered out with Marshall before you pass "go", I'd say it's a tremendous deal but that's a lot of ifs.

Marshall is more like Ocho Cinco than he is Terrell Owens. He can ratchet down the prima donna act for the good of the team (T.O. simply can't) but he's immature and he has had some off-field run-ins that might make Bob McNair veto the idea (i.e. domestic abuse charges).

popanot 01-06-2010 08:01 AM

For a #2 I'd do it as long as a long-term contract is in place. However, the likelihood of him coming here is slim to none, IMO. Our #2 this is pretty low and I would think the Broncos would get far better offers than that.

As far as our WR situation, I think I'm pretty good with going into '10 with what we have. I'm hoping that JJ will continue to mature (like he appears to be) and develop into the big-play #2 guy we need.

Mike 01-06-2010 08:14 AM

I would doubt that Marshall ends up here. A player who has acted like a turd in Training Camp, feuds with his coach and brings baggage is not a Texan fit.

Love his talent, hate his attitude.

Bigtinylittle 01-06-2010 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 17769)
I would doubt that Marshall ends up here. A player who has acted like a turd in Training Camp, feuds with his coach and brings baggage is not a Texan fit.

Love his talent, hate his attitude.

My problem with this whole thread is the misuse of the word rumor. It's one of my pet peaves because I see a lot of it this time of year. The meaning of the word rumor is that something is actually happening or has happened and someone has found out about it and is passing on the information. That does not seem to be the case here. What we have here is idle speculation by some fans that is being passed off as a rumor.

That being said, why give up a very valuable asset to pick up a highly paid player with huge character issues? We have a team with several serious holes, and reciever is not one of them. It makes no sense.

To me, even as speculation this trade isn't very interesting, because I would put the chances of it ever happening at below two percent.

cland 01-06-2010 10:45 AM

Maybe if we get Marshall we'd lead the league in passing!!! Oh..What?...we did that? I'm thinking our resources are better off spent elsewhere.

nero THE zero 01-06-2010 10:46 AM

It's hard to argue that the addition of such a talent would not be an improvement to our team. That said, the combination of his attitude/off-the-field issues, the cost of acquiring him, and the cost of keeping him makes this highly unlikely, at best.

I'd rather sign TO to a one or two year deal.

Keith 01-06-2010 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtinylittle (Post 17773)
My problem with this whole thread is the misuse of the word rumor. It's one of my pet peaves because I see a lot of it this time of year. The meaning of the word rumor is that something is actually happening or has happened and someone has found out about it and is passing on the information. That does not seem to be the case here. What we have here is idle speculation by some fans that is being passed off as a rumor.

I hear your point, which is why I added the [tag] in the first place with barroom adjusting the term 'rumor'. Seriously, I do consider this stuff when moderating. Almost went with hearsay, speculation, and a couple other terms less appropriate for an admin to use. :p

As for the definition of rumor, I get:
1 : talk or opinion widely disseminated with no discernible source
2 : a statement or report current without known authority for its truth

...which seems applicable, but I went ahead an updated the tag anyway. I certainly don't mind idle speculation and rumor in the forums, in fact I encourage it to a reasonable extent since this is sorta like an online barroom, so long as it is described as such by the OP (which he did, thanks btw).

Also worth noting, the trade deadline is still in effect until the end of February, so even if the trade parameters were being discussed, it wouldn't be finalized anytime soon. That said, with the uncapped year on the horizon, expect far more trades than has been the norm since the dawning of the cap era.

NBT 01-06-2010 07:25 PM

Why? We are overloaded with receivers and TE's now. What would we do with another one?

itssharif 01-08-2010 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NBT (Post 17801)
Why? We are overloaded with receivers and TE's now. What would we do with another one?

The reason is because we need to always figure out ways to get Andre Johnson the ball. When Owen Daniels went out we had a little bit of a difficulty because we didn't have a secondary GO TO receiver. There shouldn't be a such thing as having too much talent. Yeah we were number 1 in passing but as we all can figure in this league nothing should be taken for granted. Additionally Brandon Mashall coming here opposite Andre Johnson should be something that should intrigue him because the possibilities and potential is limitless with an offensive guru of a coach, very decisive and intelligent QB, and the greatest receiver in the league lining up om the opposite of you. I would definitely welcome the idea and would personally feel bad for defensive coordinators who had to gameplan against us especially if Steve Slaton has a comeback year, we get another stud running back, and if Arian Foster can compliment them. Actually I'm getting more and more excited about the idea as I'm typing this. Hope it happens.

cland 01-08-2010 12:51 AM

Right, it's not that we wouldn't like to have Marshall on the team. So long as he'd come over for free and play for 2nd wide receiver money, I think that almost everyone's on board. The problem is the opportunity cost to get him. Of all the positions we could upgrade, WR is the last one that comes to mind.


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