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painekiller 04-28-2011 11:35 AM

Aldon Smith
 
I was watching film on him to get a new look at the kid, a couple of notes.

One all of sacks came from the inside, not one sack from beating an OT, all of them came from beating an OG. In the NFL that will not happen.

According to John McClain, Warren Sapp thinks Smith is 2 years away from being a Ware clone, Sapp spent time working Smith out and was impressed by the kid.

My take on the kid is he is a 3rd year sophomore and he has not played very much football, I think he is being drafted on potential and the Texans track record on potential is not a good one. I am not sold on him, I really hope we trade up or trade down, please do not stand pat in this draft. Let the Pats draft the kid (Smith) based on potential, and get an extra pick.

NBT 04-28-2011 11:56 AM

We have butted heads several times in the past PK. You may be right, but I think the kid will make us an excellent OLB rusher...... On the other hand, in the unlikely event (at this time before the Draft) that a trade up for Miller or Peterson, should present itself, then I would be all for it.

Roy P 04-28-2011 01:25 PM

I'm not high on Aldon either and would love to trade up to #6 and select Peterson. I just don't see that happening because Peterson will be selected higher than that. Justin Tuck was drafted in the 4th round and I'm not sure Aldon is as good as that.

NBT 04-28-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 24914)
I'm not high on Aldon either and would love to trade up to #6 and select Peterson. I just don't see that happening because Peterson will be selected higher than that. Justin Tuck was drafted in the 4th round and I'm not sure Aldon is as good as that.

Well let's just say we agree to disagree.

TexanJedi 04-28-2011 05:48 PM

Yes I agree, no Aldon Smith.

nunusguy 04-28-2011 06:44 PM

More and more mocks have Smith and Robert Quinn both on the Board when Houston picks, including Gosselins last mock which came out this morning that has Quinn falling all the way to 20. Obviously the word is that people are afraid of Quinn's medical history. I mean maybe his brain tumor was/is benign, it's still freakin cancer. And it's still in his skull !
So anyway, if a team is concerned about Quinns medical situation, and Justin Houston has got the problem with grass, and Von miller is going way too high then who's left in the way of edge-rushing prospects besides Smith ? Maybe Kerrigan ? OK, trade back and get extra picks ? Sounds good if you can find a partner ?

TexanJedi 04-28-2011 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 24923)
More and more mocks have Smith and Robert Quinn both on the Board when Houston picks, including Gosselins last mock which came out this morning that has Quinn falling all the way to 20. Obviously the word is that people are afraid of Quinn's medical history. I mean maybe his brain tumor was/is benign, it's still freakin cancer. And it's still in his skull !
So anyway, if a team is concerned about Quinns medical situation, and Justin Houston has got the problem with grass, and Von miller is going way too high then who's left in the way of edge-rushing prospects besides Smith ? Maybe Kerrigan ? OK, trade back and get extra picks ? Sounds good if you can find a partner ?

Yes, take Watt or trade back for Ayers and extra pick(s). I would really like to see us wind up with Peterson in a trade up.

Nconroe 04-28-2011 06:54 PM

or trade back and take Kerrigan, he had really good production this year.

Roy P 04-28-2011 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 24923)
Maybe Kerrigan ? OK, trade back and get extra picks ? Sounds good if you can find a partner ?

Yes, Kerrigan would be a good fit.

painekiller 04-29-2011 02:41 AM

I would say from the action of the Texans that Smith was their guy and he was taken before their pick, just like last season. So this year they went with the player they thought was the safe pick, just like last year. Only this season I see Watt as a solid DE, but on our team he is only depth, yes he comes in on passing plays and the front four is Williams, Watts, Smith, Barwin.

Thank you San Fransisco.

NBT 05-06-2011 03:24 PM

I will be watching Aldon Smith this year (if we are lucky enough to have an NFL season this year), and will let you all know if you are wrong, as you have been several times in the past.

nunusguy 05-07-2011 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NBT (Post 25194)
I will be watching Aldon Smith this year (if we are lucky enough to have an NFL season this year), and will let you all know if you are wrong, as you have been several times in the past.

I don't know what the Texans could have done about the 49ers preempting their plans to draft Smith unless you think they should have coughed up a third round pick and and traded spots with the 49 ers ? Do you really think Smith was worth our 2011 first & third round picks ?

NBT 05-07-2011 02:53 PM

Wasn't commenting on moving up to get Aldon Smith, as you well know. I was saying I'm going to see how well he plays for the 49'rs.

NBT 11-28-2011 06:07 PM

Aldon Smith
 
Well here it is after the 11th game of the year, and guess who is playing very well for S.F. - yes for all you dissenters, Aldon Smith is playing on a very good defensive line, and he has more than vindicated himself. I know we didn't even have a chance to draft him.

I might add that our first round pick, J.J. Watt is playing just as well.

I just wanted to make the point. ;)

Roy P 11-29-2011 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NBT (Post 28001)
Well here it is after the 11th game of the year, and guess who is playing very well for S.F. - yes for all you dissenters, Aldon Smith is playing on a very good defensive line, and he has more than vindicated himself. I know we didn't even have a chance to draft him.

I might add that our first round pick, J.J. Watt is playing just as well.

I just wanted to make the point. ;)

I also would like to make the point that Brooks Reed has more than vindicated himself too....along with Barwin.

nunusguy 11-29-2011 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Roy P (Post 28009)
I also would like to make the point that Brooks Reed has more than vindicated himself too....along with Barwin.

They are a terrific young OLB combo, and given the price tag it would seem to make Marios retention here in Houston less and less likely ?

NBT 11-29-2011 12:34 PM

Wouldn't surprise me if we find a way to keep both Mario and Arian.


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