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3 Round Mock draft
I will begin this by apologizing. It's not the 7 round extravaganza that I usually put out this time of year. However, after noticing that I drafted 2 different TEs for Denver, I decided to call it quits. In my vision, the RBs are pushed down again in the draft, only to have a run on them. The CBs are in high demand, but apparently they are in short supply. The same can be said for DL and OLB for the 3/4. It seems that everybody wants one, but there are only so many chairs to claim. Yes, the draft is like a game of musical chairs. As for the WRs, it became apparent that there is some potential out there, but most GMs and coaches don't want to wait 3 years for a guy to develop.
Round 1 1 Det QB Matt Stafford 2 StL LT Eugene Monroe 3 KC ILB Aaron Curry 4 Sea LT Jason Smith 5 Cle OLB Brian Orakpo 6 Cinci OT Michael Oher 7 Oak DT BJ Raji 8 Jax QB Mark Sanchez 9 GB OLB Aaron Maybin 10 SF OT Andre Smith 11 Buf OLB Connor Barwin 12 Den CB Malcolm Jenkins 13 Was DE Everette Brown 14 NO CB Vontae Davis 15 Hou OLB Clay Matthews 16 SD ILB Rey Maualuga 17 NYJ WR Michael Crabtree 18 Den ILB Brian Cushing 19 TB DE Michael Johnson 20 Det OT William Beatty 21 Phi TE Brandon Pettigrew 22 Minn WR Jeremy Maclin 23 NEP OT Ebon Britton 24 Atl DT Peria Jerry 25 Mia ILB James Laurinaitis 26 Bal CB Darius Butler 27 Ind DT Ziggy Hood 28 Phi WR Hakeem Nicks 29 NYG WR Darius Heyward-Bey 30 Tenn DE Robert Ayers 31 Arz RB Knowshon Moreno 32 Pitt OG Max Unger Round 2 33 Det CB Alphonso Smith 34 NEP OLB Larry English 35 StL RB Donald Brown 36 Cle DE Tyson Jackson 37 Sea QB Josh Freeman 38 Cinci OC Alex Mack 39 Jax OT Jamon Meredith 40 Oak WR Percy Harvin 41 GB DT Ron Brace 42 Buf OLB Clint Sintim 43 SF S William Moore 44 Mia CB Sean Smith 45 NYG TE Jared Cook 46 Hou SS Patrick Chung 47 NEP DE Jarron Gilbert 48 Den FS Louis Delmas 49 Chi WR Brian Robiskie 50 Cle RB LeSean McCoy 51 Dal WR Kenny Britt 52 NYJ CB DJ Moore 53 Phi OT Phil Loadholt 54 Minn CB Asher Allen 55 Atl DE Lawrence Sibury 56 Mia WR Louis Murphy 57 Bal ILB Marcus Freeman 58 NEP OG Andy Levitre 59 Car DE Paul Kruger 60 NYG DT Sen'Derrick Marks 61 Ind OT Gerald Cadogan 62 Tenn OG Duke Robinson 63 Arz CB Keenan Lewis 64 Pitt DE Fili Moala Round 3 65 Det MLB Darry Beckwith 66 StL WR Juaquin Iglesias 67 KC RB Andre Brown 68 Sea FS Darcel McBath 69 Dal ILB Darnell Ellerbe 70 Cinci RB Rashad Jennings 71 Oak FS Rashad Johnson 72 Jax DT Dorrell Scott 73 GB CB Coye Francies 74 SF OLB Cody Brown 75 Buf TE James Casey 76 NYJ RB Javon Ringer 77 Hou S Chip Vaughn 78 SD DE Alex Magee 79 Den TE Chase Coffman 80 Was CB Victor Harris 81 TB LB Gerald McGrath 82 Det S Chris Clemons 83 GB OT Troy Kropog 84 Den TE Shawn Nelson 85 Phi WR Mohamed Massaquoi 86 Minn OT Herman Johnson 87 Mia FS David Bruton 88 Bal TE Cornelius Ingram 89 NEP WR Jarett Dillard 90 Atl TE Travis Beckum 91 NYG CB Captain Munnerlyn 92 Ind LB Jason Williams 93 Car QB Rhett Bomar 94 Tenn WR Mike Thomas 95 Arz LB Tyrone McKenzie 96 Pitt CB Mike Mickens 97 NEP CB Kevin Barnes 98 Cinci DE Mitch King 99 Chi OC Antoine Caldwell 100 NYG MLB Scott McKillop I'll be willing to address any of the picks, but for the sake of clarity, I didn't want to put a little comment next to each pick. |
You wouldn't take Crabtree at 15!? Wow . . .I think teaming him with Andre is a no doubter here. Most consider him the top prospect in the draft, no way we can pass up value like that, or at least trade the pick . . .
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Wow, that's work.
I guess I'll start with the obvious, I don't see us drafting two safeties in the first three rounds. I also don't see P.Harvin lasting until the 40th, he was the most dynamic player in the NCAA last year, and lastly I don't see Shonn Greene anywhere, IMO he's a top 5 RB. Other than that, great job, I like the late run on WR's and the early run on OT's. |
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About the only pair of safeties I could compare them to is Taylor and Landry. |
Roy, 1st off excellent effort. A very realistic straight draft.
Where is Eric Woods? No way he falls to the 4th, or do you think Mayock, you and I are the only ones who like him? Isn't clearly ahead of Caldwell? Also I hope you are wrong on Barwin going #11, I was thinking the other day, What if my desire for Matthews is colored, who else has his type skills but later in the draft? My answer was Barwin. Then I wondered what about him as 1st rounder? I was not ready to listen to the people tell me he is not 1st rounder, like they did about Raji, and Donald Brown. But a big case can be made for him. Even as SAM in the 4-3. Along those lines I do not see Sidbury lasting to the late 2nd. Lastly do you really think Freeman can be an ILB? That is different. |
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Why did the Texans pass on him? Gee, look at all the rebuttals I got about Jeremy Maclin about how we had the 3rd best offense, the 23rd ranked defense, Kevin Walters is a TD machine who we don't want to move to the slot, etc. There were many times in which I wanted to make a trade, but it's too much of a headache to try to figure out who has which pick to trade and how much it's worth. So, in stead of trying to come up with one of a bazillion computations, I went with the straight no trade mock. |
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Harvin lasted a while because I was looking at WRs who actually play Split End and have a history of running routes. Percy is an athlete, but not a polished WR. Like I said at the beginning, I think WRs are going to be late picks because it takes too much time before they start making an impact. Also, there is more need at other positions. It may be a while before we see a player like Ted Ginn picked in the 1st round. Shonn Greene's absence was a mistake. I simply thought that he was off the board, and obviously he was not. After going through three rounds, I sorted by name and position to make sure I didn't have one guy being picked twice. If I were to try to slip him in somewhere, it would probably be at #76 instead of Javon Ringer. My mistake. |
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Yes, most excellent effort. I would't mind at all if we got two safeties there, assuming they are top rated on the board at that time.
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Yeah, Buffalo was the team that I was looking to trade down, but decided to just have my mock without trades. Then I realized that I was dealing with Buffalo who don't give a rat's ass about what any draftnik thinks. They need a pass-rusher and they need a TE, why not get both? If I were to trade down and still hope to fill a "need" there are three guys in the first round (I think) that I'd look for. Matthews, Barwin, and Maybin. Buffalo decided to draft McCargo and Whitner when everyone else was saying WTF? Sidbury has really gotten no respect in my estimation. He has telephone poles for arms and reminds me of a taller version of Elvis Dumervil. I've seen him as a 4th rounder, but with so many teams wanting to rush the passer, it's hard to dismiss his 40 and his 10. He played at Richmond, but people seem to forget that DeMarcus Ware played for Troy, so forget about level of competition. Realistically, I could see GB and Dom Capers falling in love with the kid and drafting him #41, but I had them jumping on Maybin in the 1st round. Could you imagine drafting Maybin and Sidbury for a 3/4? I had Freeman going to a 3/4 team. He has decent size and pretty good athleticism. Basically, he allows Ray Lewis to do his thing and cleans up. That's what Bart Scott did. Everyone seems to think that you only put robots in the middle of a 3/4 like Junior Seau or Teddy Bruschi to hide their limitations. I would imagine that putting a guy with some speed in the middle of the 3/4 wouldn't be a bad thing. |
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I would have picked 15. Jeremy Maclin 46. Eric Woods 77. Chip Vaughn So, I've adjusted my board and now would pick 15. Matthews 46. Sidbury 77. Vaughn and I'll be honest, I'm teetering on whether I should move up Shonn Greene. |
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Slaton's backup is getting to be a pretty big priority. He's probably stronger now being a rookie and all last year, but Slaton had a hard time handling the workload he had last season (remember when Kubiak basicially rested him for a game?). |
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Anyway, this year's BJGE s Javarris Williams. Write it down. :rolleyes: Maybe a trade for Jalen Parmele with the Ravens, Michael Bush with the Raiders, or DeShawn Wynn with the Packers could be worked out? |
Roy maybe I just need another pair of eyes but is Beanie Wells on there?
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Washington, Denver, Oakland, Houston, Green Bay, Carolina
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Draft Vaughn, forget about Chung!
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1st round 1 Det QB Matt Stafford - 1 2 StL LT Eugene Monroe - 8 3 KC ILB Aaron Curry - 4 4 Sea LT Jason Smith - 2 5 Cle OLB Brian Orakpo - 13 6 Cinci DE Everette Brown - 43 Big Miss on my part 7 Oak DT BJ Raji - 9 8 Jax QB Mark Sanchez - 5 I had this right to begin with but moved him down. 9 GB OLB Aaron Maybin - 11 10 SF OT Michael Oher - 23 That was a bit high now looking back at it. 11 Buf DE Connor Barwin - 46 Yeah, I'm happy to be wrong about this pick. 12 Den CB Malcolm Jenkins - 14 13 Was OT Andre Smith - 6 Well, he didn't slip as much as I thought. 14 NO CB Vontae Davis - 25 Could be great could flop. 15 Hou OLB Clay Matthews - 26 I drank the kool aid. I knew not to listen to John McClain. 16 SD ILB Rey Maualuga - 38 I still believe the Chargers blew this one. 17 NYJ WR Michael Crabtree - 10 I thought he'd slip, just not so much it appears. 18 Den ILB Brian Cushing - 15 I wonder if we considered trading down, but thought we'd lose our guy. 19 TB DE Michael Johnson - 70 There aren't that many owners in the NFL like Al Davis. 20 Det OT Ebon Britton - 39 The Jags got good value in my opinion. 21 Phi TE Brandon Pettigrew - 20 Not too far off 22 Minn WR Jeremy Maclin - 19 23 NEP CB Darius Butler - 41 New England waited and still got their guy 24 Atl DT Peria Jerry - 24 Nailed it! 25 Mia WR Percy Harvin - 22 26 Bal ILB James Laurinaitis - 35 27 Ind DT Ziggy Hood - 32 28 Phi WR Hakeem Nicks - 29 Just missed. 29 NYG WR Darius Heyward-Bey - 7 Should have listend to Michael Lombardi on this one. 30 Tenn DE Robert Ayers - 18 31 Arz RB Knowshon Moreno - 12 The need of defensive players led me down this path 32 Pitt DE Tyson Jackson - 3 Are you freakin' kidding me? 2nd round 33 Det CB Alphonso Smith - 37 34 NEP OT William Beatty - 60 This is when I was expecting a reach on OTs 35 StL RB Donald Brown - 27 I even knew this guy had 1st round talent. 36 Cle RB Beannie Wells - 31 37 Sea QB Josh Freeman - 19 Predicting when a QB will be selected is hard work. 38 Cinci OC Alex Mack - 21 My apologies to the Mack family. 39 Jax OT Jamon Meredith - 162 I guess I wasn't the only one who took him off the draft board. 40 Oak WR Louis Murphy - 124 This was my Al Davis reach. Big Al took him later - where he should have. 41 GB DT Ron Brace - 40 42 Buf OLB Marcus Freeman - 154 Oh my. Again, I bit on the measurable instead of my eyeballs. I took him off my board, but put him back on. 43 SF OLB Lawrence Sibury - 125 Man is this painful. 44 Mia CB Sean Smith - 61 Right team, right round, wrong pick. 45 NYG TE Jared Cook - 89 Another player I'm glad that I removed from "My guys" 46 Hou S William Moore - 55 I let my emotions get the better of me 47 NEP DE Jarron Gilbert - 68 48 Den SS Patrick Chung - 34 49 Chi WR Brian Robiskie - 36 50 Cle FS Louis Delmas - 33 Everyone loves this guy more than I do. 51 Dal WR Kenny Britt - 30 I was happy to be wrong about this guy. 52 NYJ CB DJ Moore - 119 A CB with slow 40 time - not a good combo 53 Phi OG Max Unger - 49 At least I knew we would pass on him. 54 Minn CB Asher Allen - 86 Another emotional pick 55 Atl OLB Clint Sintim - 45 56 Mia OLB Larry English - 16 I'm not a fan 57 Bal TE James Casey - 152 Wow, give Rick Smith a raise people. 58 NEP OC Eric Wood - 28 Now who said he was a 4th rounder? 59 Car DE Paul Kruger - 57 60 NYG RB LeSean McCoy - 53 61 Ind DT Sen'Derrick Marks - 62 Just a bit outside 62 Tenn OG Duke Robinson - 163 I was hoping they'd reach 63 Arz DE Fili Moala - 56 64 Pitt CB Keenan Lewis - 96 Right team, wrong round. 3rd round 65 Det MLB Darry Beckwith - Undrafted Free Agent. Could we please get his agent on the phone? 66 StL WR Juaquin Iglesias - 99 67 KC RB Andre Brown -129 Who would think KC would take another RB so early? Oh yeah, me. :( 68 Sea FS Darcel McBath - 48 69 Dal OT Phil Loadholt - 54 70 Cinci RB Shonn Greene - 65 That's why the JETS moved up. 71 Oak FS Rashad Johnson - 95 72 Jax DT Dorrell Scott - 103 They took a different DT (a guy I wanted in the 6th round) 73 GB RB Rashad Jennings - 250 This guy must have a LOT of baggage. 74 SF QB Rhett Bomar - 151 Another QB to f'ckd things up. 75 Buf TE Chase Coffman - 98 76 NYJ RB Javon Ringer - 173 Titans got a steal 77 Hou S Chip Vaughn - 116 Perhaps I shouldn't include the Texans in my mock drafts 78 SD OT Troy Kropog - 135 The OT run didn't happen like I thought. 79 Den TE Shawn Nelson - 121 80 Was WR Mike Thomas - 107 Too short to be this early 81 TB LB Gerald McGrath - 130 Titans got a steal 82 Det S Chris Clemons - 165 83 GB OT Gerald Cadogan - UDFA Glad I took him off my board too! 84 Den DE Alex Magee - 67 85 Phi OT Herman Johnson - 167 86 Minn OG Kraig Urbik - 79 87 Mia FS David Bruton - 114 88 Bal CB Mike Mickens - 227 Did the Cowboys really make me look this bad? 89 NEP WR Jarett Dillard - 144 I think the Jags did well here. 90 Atl TE Travis Beckum - 100 91 NYG LB Jason Williams - 69 92 Ind LB Darnell Ellerbe - UDFA Get Beckwith and this guy together, will ya? 93 Car QB Pat White - 44 Another QB messin with me. 94 Tenn WR Kevin Ogletree - UDFA I'm thinking we can sign him too. 95 Arz LB Tyrone McKenzie - 97 Not too bad 96 Pitt OT Fenuki Tupou - 159 I'm really off on the OTs 97 NEP OLB Cody Brown - 63 I thought I was one of the few who liked him that much. 98 Cinci MLB Scott McKillop - 146 99 Chi OC Antoine Caldwell - 77 Looks like Gibbs didn't think he'd last until the 4th round pick either. 100 NYG OG Andy Levitre - 51 My apologies to the Levitre family. 4th round 101 Dal SS Mike Hamlin - 166 Right team, wrong round. 102 KC OLB David Veikune - 52 Browns (I'm still calling that a reach) 103 StL CB Chris Owens - 90 104 Cle DE Mitch King - UDFA I thought somebody would like him 105 Sea CB Jairus Byrd - 42 106 Cinci OT Sebastian Vollmer - 58 That's 2 that I was late on. 107 Jax WR Kenny McKinley - 141 108 Mia ILB Jasper Brinkley - 150 109 GB CB Coye Francies - 191 110 Buf FS C.J. Spillman - UDFA 111 SF CB Morgan Trent - 179 112 Hou RB Cedric Peerman - 185 113 SD DT Ricky Jean-Francois - 244 WOW! I thought somebody would have bought him earlier. 114 Den DT Corvey Irvin - 93 115 NYJ QB Stephen McGee - 101 116 NO RB Glen Coffee - 74 117 Dal LB Zack Follett - 235 Big miss on my part. 118 NO OLB Jonathan Casillas - UDFA 119 Chi OT Joel Bell - UDFA 120 TB CB Captain Munnerlyn - 216 Now can you see why I didn't do more than 4 rounds? 121 Phi FS Sherrod Martin - 59 122 Hou CB Kevin Barnes - 80 123 Bal DE Kyle Moore - 117 124 NEP CB Victor Harris - 157 I hate slow CBs 125 Atl SS Emanual Cook - UDFA 126 Oak TE Cornelius Ingram - 153 127 Ind OG Trevor Canfield - 254 128 Car OG T.J. Lang - 109 129 NYG K Louie Sakoda - UDFA I hate predicting Kickers too. 130 Tenn CB Brandon Hughes - 148 131 Arz TE Cameron Morrah - 248 Almost a UDFA 132 Pitt OG Tyronne Green - 133 Almost a hit! 133 SD RB Kory Sheets - UDFA Never underestimate off field concerns. 134 SD SS Courtney Greene - 245 Almost a UDFA 135 Tenn DT Terrence Taylor - 136 Almost a Hit! 136 Ind DE Matt Shaughnessy - 71 Big Al did me again. The lesson I learned here is NEVER do more than 3 rounds. Secondly, stick with your gut instincts on YOUR draft board. The guy that you want in the 2nd round may very well be there in the 4th round. Lastly, nobody knows nothing until after the draft. It's easy to come in and cherry pick who you could have gotten in the 7th round after the fact. Also, those hidden gems are there because everybody else is looking for something completely different on the 2nd day. I had a draft board of 67 players, but could have filled my slots with what I considered 5th round talent, or better with a draft board of 48. I thought Moore, Vaughn, and Brown were all 2nd round talented players and could have drafted all three of them after getting what I considered the 6th best player in the draft (3rd best for our roster). In fact, I could have traded down to 42 and gotten him along with more draft picks. That's why the Professionals get paid the big bucks. |
I don't know about the order in which you have them, but I like the collection of players you have in the first 4 rounds Roy.
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I don't know if it is my subconcious or not, but I just went and compared my draft board vs. my mock draft and I would have made every pick that I projected for the Texans except for the #122. Interestingly enough, I would have drafted DE Kyle Moore if the draft went this way and I had the team right after us drafting him.
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Man, I just don't think I could leave Unger and EWood sitting there in the second round, not with Studdard and CWhite as my primary backups for a less than stellar group of starting interior olinemen... And, I would also have a hard time passing up LEnglish and Sintim.
To simplify, we gotta trade down out of 15 and collect a bucket full of second and third round picks! |
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Not too bad a mock. I am especially mindful of Ced Peerman. As for the buckets of 2nd & 3rd rounders for trading down from #15, don't hold your breath.
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So you would rather pick up Unger to make our backups better? There may be more priority in making the starting Secondary improved from last season. I think the bigger bang for the buck is to have a playmaker on the field for all three downs rather than a guy who comes in on passing situations only. Now, if you think English or Sintim can play the SAM on first and 2nd down, then you might have an argument. I just think that they may be more of a liability in space on 1st and 2nd down as a SAM than they make a positive impact on 3rd down. I won't argue that these players have talent, I'm just trying to think who makes the TEAM better overall. |
Since there was a trade with Buf and Phi, I thought I'd update my first round to reflect that move....
1 Det QB Matt Stafford 2 StL LT Eugene Monroe 3 KC LT Jason Smith 4 Sea ILB Aaron Curry 5 Cle QB Mark Sanchez 6 Cinci DT BJ Raji 7 Oak OLB Brian Orakpo 8 Jax WR Michael Crabtree 9 GB OT Michael Oher 10 SF CB Malcolm Jenkins 11 Buf DE Everette Brown 12 Den OLB Aaron Maybin 13 Was OT Andre Smith 14 NO OLB Brian Cushing 15 Hou OLB Clay Matthews 16 SD ILB Rey Maualuga 17 NYJ DE Tyson Jackson 18 Den OLB Connor Barwin 19 TB QB Josh Freeman 20 Det DE Robert Ayers 21 Phi TE Brandon Pettigrew 22 Minn WR Jeremy Maclin 23 NEP CB Vontae Davis 24 Atl DE Michael Johnson 25 Mia WR Hakeem Nicks 26 Bal ILB James Laurinaitis 27 Ind DT Peria Jerry 28 Buf OT Ebon Britton 29 NYG WR Darius Heyward-Bey 30 Tenn DT Ziggy Hood 31 Arz RB Knowshon Moreno 32 Pitt OG Max Unger |
If Cleveland drafts Mark Sanchez I'll eat my own nose.
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Even assuming all of that, I just don't think you can draft for immediate impact. Just take good players, particularly at positions where your depth is bad and then let competition, injuries, etc... work itself out. |
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Since nobody here works for the Texans, we have to work with assumptions. You don't have to agree with the premise and if you don't, you'll obviously come up with different conclusions. It appears that you are assuming that Unger will beat out Myers and our interior OL will miss time. That's your perogative. |
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Don't you think we should spread our first 5 picks a little more than using 3 on DB's, especially since we still haven't seen what Barber and Molden are capable of doing? I like the players, but don't know if they'll be riding the bench like the previous players mentioned were last year. Kubiak has some strange commitments to play players that is mindbogglingly, IMO. |
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As long as I'm uncertain about Dunta Robinson, I don't mind adding a CB via the draft. Now, my point of emphasis is to take the BPA during the draft. If they happen to be DBs, then so be it. |
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That's the point. |
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