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Arky 11-17-2016 09:16 PM

Official Texans @ Raiders Game Thread, 11/21/2016
 
Week 11 finds the 6-3 Texans heading to Mexico City to play the 7-2 Oakland Raiders on MNF. The Raiders are coming off their bye week but previously had defeated the Denver Broncos 30-20 at home. QB Derek Carr is having an exceptional year passing for 2,505 yards, 17 TDs, 3 INTs and has a 99.1 rating. He is top ten in most of the NFL QB statistics. The bulk of the rushing will be done by Latavius Murray (393 yds), Deandre Washington (302 yds) and Jalen Richard (279 yds). Leading receivers are Amari Cooper (843 yds), Michael Crabtree (596 yds) and Seth Roberts (277 yds).

According to ESPN writer Sarah Barshop, since Week 7, the Texans are averaging more yards per rush (4.8) than yards per pass attempt (4.3). The Texans will need to get the passing game going in order to have a shot at winning .....

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TV = ESPN, 7:30 pm CST, Monday, 11/21/2016

Announcers = Sean McDonough, Jon Gruden

The line = Raiders by 6 to 7

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Sunday viewing in the Houston area:

CBS (early) = Baltimore @ Dallas, Ian Eagle, Dan Fouts

CBS (late) = Philadelphia @ Seattle, Jim Nantz, Phil Simms

FOX (early) = Arizona @ Minnesota, Joe Buck, Troy Aikman

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Other prime time:

TNF = New Orleans @ Carolina (NBC; NFLN)

SNF = Green Bay @ Washington (NBC)

Arky 11-18-2016 04:33 PM

Quote:

Elo ratings, a simple system that estimates each team’s skill level using only the final scores and locations of each game
The average NFL team has an ELO rating of 1500. The Texans currently have a rating of 1535. #1 is Seattle with 1664. The Texans highest rating ever was 1685 - Week 13, 2012 right after defeating the Titans 24-10. The Texans fell off the cliff after that game and are still recovering....

They have the Texans with a 86% chance to win the division and a 20% chance to get a first round bye. Curiously, they have the Texans vs. Oakland game as a coinflip - 50:50.

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Video - At least one person likes the Texans to cover the spread. TRT = 5:56

Arky 11-21-2016 08:44 PM

Kickoff to the Texans is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.

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Pass to Griffin gets 4.

L Miller caught in the backfield for a loss of 2. 3rd and 8 coming up.

Pass to Fido gets a 1st down but flag is down.....holding on Raiders is declined.

Pass to Fido goes inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

L Miller goes right for 3 yards. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Pass to Hop goes all the way to the Raider 36, 1st down.

L Miller for 3.

L Miller for 2. 3rd and 5 coming up.

Pass to Anderson gets 14 and the 1st down.

Hunt goes for 5. Ball at the Raider 12.

Hunt caught for a loss. 3rd and 7 coming up. A Raider injured on the play. Injury timeout.

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Oz pressured, throws it away, inc. Texans to go for the FG.

Novak's 32-yarder is good.

Texans 3, Raiders 0

8:34 left in the 1st qtr.

barrett 11-21-2016 08:46 PM

How does an official miss that call? He is right on the sideline staring down Hopkins running for a TD, and he blows a call in the only way that will not allow replay to fix his mistake. That is the kind of thing that should cost a guy a spot in an NFL crew. We have replay to fix almost every call, just don't blow your whistle and let replay get it right.

Arky 11-21-2016 08:50 PM

The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Raider's ball at their 25.

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Short pass to Crabtree results in a loss of 5.

Clowney nabs the runner in the backfield, loss of 4.

On 3rd and 19, pass to Murray gets about 7... Raiders to punt on 4th down.

Ervin brings the punt back to the Texan 37. Texan's ball.

6:48 left in the 1st qtr.

Big Texas 11-21-2016 08:52 PM

Nice start...defense looks hyped

Arky 11-21-2016 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett (Post 44738)
How does an official miss that call? He is right on the sideline staring down Hopkins running for a TD, and he blows a call in the only way that will not allow replay to fix his mistake. That is the kind of thing that should cost a guy a spot in an NFL crew. We have replay to fix almost every call, just don't blow your whistle and let replay get it right.

The replays weren't very good but I think his heel might've hit the chalk....

Arky 11-21-2016 08:56 PM

Flat pass to Hop gets 4.

L Miller for 4. 3rd and 2 coming up.

B Miller takes the snap and they mark him a little short of the 1st down. Challenge the spot, Bill..... Ugh, Texans to punt....

Raiders bring the punt back to their 21. Raider's ball.

4:29 left in the 1st qtr.

barrett 11-21-2016 08:58 PM

I thought it was pretty clear he's in bounds. Either way you need to err on the side that allows you to get the call right with replay. When you blow your whistle you have guaranteed you can't fix it.

But then we don't challenge Miller's run? Mack pulled Miller on top of himself and Miller rolls a yard past the first down marker.

barrett 11-21-2016 09:02 PM

Then the officials blow 2 spots in our favor. NFL football is played to exacting standards across the board, but they allow officials to blow over half of the spots. And half the time it's not their fault. They're guessing at spots from impossible angles behind the ball half the time.

Arky 11-21-2016 09:07 PM

Carr's pass goes for 17.

Pass to the fullback gets 9. 2nd and 1 coming up.

Murray gets a half yard. 3rd and 1 coming up.

Murray gets 1 more yard for the 1st down. Ball at the Raider 49.

Murray goes left for 3.

Flags presnap. False start Raiders, -5. Makes it 2nd and 12 coming up.

Deep pass to Crabtree draws the PI on JJo. Places the ball at the Texan 20.

Murray for 3.

Flare pass to Murray goes for no gain. 3rd and 7 coming up.

End of the 1st qtr.

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On 3rd and 7, pass to Richard over the middle goes for the TD.

Raiders 7, Texans 3

14:54 left in the half.

chuck 11-21-2016 09:14 PM

Well, the good news is it took a full quarter to embarrass themselves as the group of fking incompetents that they are.

Also, you notice that whenever the Texans get a takeaway under these circumstances it is business as usual but a team that actually wants to win goes for the end zone right away?

The Texans, losers that they are, were playing for three points that first drive.

Arky 11-21-2016 09:15 PM

Ervin muffs the ensuing kickoff and the Raiders recover at the Texan 19. Raider's ball.

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Pass to Cooper goes to the Texan 4. 1st and goal.

Murray for 3.

Olawale runs for no gain.

Carr's pass goes over everyone, inc. Raiders to go for the FG.

Janikowski's 19-yarder is good.

Raiders 10, Texans 3

12:48 left in the half.

barrett 11-21-2016 09:19 PM

On 2nd and 10 we only run the ball.

chuck 11-21-2016 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett (Post 44748)
On 2nd and 10 we only run the ball.

100% of the time. It is stupefying.

Big Texas 11-21-2016 09:23 PM

Brock is really starting to get that David Carr look in his eyes.

barrett 11-21-2016 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 44749)
100% of the time. It is stupefying.

It's been like that for weeks now. I am shocked we get any yards at all on those plays with such an obvious tendency.

We look good on 3rd down tonight, but we haven't put the ball downfield yet, and the raiders DBs are sitting on our short routes. You won't do great trying to throw fastballs into tiny windows against squatting DBs. We need to throw it downfield at some point.

Arky 11-21-2016 09:33 PM

The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.

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Oz's pass is nearly INT'ed but inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

L Miller for about 3. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Pass to Hop draws a holding call. 5 yards and an auto 1st down.

Pass to Fido is ruled and inc pass. 2nd and 10 coming up.

L Miller goes left side for 8. 3rd and 2 coming up.

Oz uses a timeout to avoid being penalized for delay of game....

On 3rd and 2, pass to Fido goes for nice gainer. Ball at the Raider 41.

L Miller for 7.

Raiders use a timeout.

L Miller takes it to the house! 34 yards! Whoa, hold the presses....play is under review.....

Refs rule the ball to be marked at the 1/2 yard line. 1st and goal.

Haha, Oz's pass is deflected right back to him and he catches it.... Loss of 6....

False start on Mancz, -5..... 2nd and goal from the 12.

Good pass to B Miller in the endzone for the TD!

Texans 10, Raiders 10

7:59 left in the half.

Arky 11-21-2016 09:39 PM

The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Raiders will have the ball at their 25.

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Richard gets 2.

Pass to Richard gets 4. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Oooh, pass to Crabtree is dropped. Raiders will have to punt.

B Miller fields the punt and is tackled at the Texan 11. Flag is down.....ref says, "no flag"....

6:20 left in the half.

Arky 11-21-2016 09:41 PM

Texans can play with these guys if they don't self-destruct.....

Arky 11-21-2016 09:47 PM

L Miller caught for loss of 2.

Pass to Fido gets 13 and the 1st down.

L Miller for almost 4.

Pass to Hop goes the Texan 39, 1st down.

L Miller for 1.

Hunt gets tripped up for no gain. 3rd and 9 coming up.

Pass to Hop is broken up, inc. Texans to punt with 2:35 left in the half.

Punt goes into the end zone, touchback. Raider's ball at their 20.

Arky 11-21-2016 09:53 PM

Pass to Crabtree gets 4.

Clowney jumps off sides, 5 yards. 2nd and 1 coming up.

2 minute warning.

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Deep pass to Roberts just off his hands, inc. Brings up 3rd and 1.

Texans blow up the Raider o-line and get the runner for a TFL. Raiders will have to punt.

Punt goes out of bounds at the Texan 25. Texan's ball.

1:38 left in the half.

Arky 11-21-2016 09:57 PM

Oz's pass is INT'ed by the Raider at about midfield. Raider's ball.

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Pass to Roberts is dropped, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Murray gets 8. 3rd and 2 coming up.

Texans stuff the run on 3rd down. Raiders going for it on 4th down.....

JJo breaks up the pass! Texans takeover on downs with 16 seconds left in the half.

Arky 11-21-2016 09:59 PM

Pass to B Miller gets 1. 9 seconds left in the half.

Deep pass to Fuller off the mark just a tad, inc.

Oz gets sacked.

Halftime.

Texans 10, Raiders 10

Arky 11-21-2016 10:21 PM

2nd half kickoff is a touchback. Raider's ball at their 25.

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Carr's pass is INT'ed by Bouye! Texan's ball at their 35!

Arky 11-21-2016 10:34 PM

Pass to Fido over the middle is dropped. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Oz passes inc. to Griffin who wasn't looking. 3rd and 10 coming up.

Oz pressured scrambles but is just short of the 1st down..... about a 1/2 yard.... Texans going for it on 4th down...

Prosch gets the 1st down, barely.

Pass to Griffin gets a 1st down at the Raider 34.

L Miller for about 4. Mancz and D Brown both shaken up on the play....

Screen to L Miller gets 4. 3rd and 2 coming up.

Pass to B Miller goes to the Raider 20, 1st down.

Pass to Griffin goes for 8 but flags are down....holding on the Raiders is declined.

L Miller gets the 1st down at the 9 yard line. 1st and goal.

End around (kinda) to B Miller goes for no gain.

L Miller goes left for a couple. 3rd and goal coming up.

Pass over the head of B Miller sails inc but flag is down....PI defense, ball placed at the 1 yard line, 1st and goal.

L Miller punches it in!

Texans 17, Raiders 10

8:32 left in the 3rd qtr.

barrett 11-21-2016 10:44 PM

Clowney is playing huge tonight. He has wrecked the raiders run game.

Keith 11-21-2016 10:49 PM

Starting to look a little gassed on defense now. Altitude?

chuck 11-21-2016 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith (Post 44762)
Starting to look a little gassed on defense now. Altitude?

Injuries more than altitude I would think.

Arky 11-21-2016 10:52 PM

The ensuing kickoff is downed, touchback. Raider's ball at their 25.

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Pass to Olawale gets 6.

Washington goes for no gain. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Pass to Crabtree gets 6 and the 1st down.

Pass to Cooper in the flat loses 1.

Richard for 4. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Pass to Walford gets the 1st down... add on roughness by JJo. Ball at the Texan 34.

Flags presnap.....illegal snap (?) on the offense, -5. 1st and 15 coming up.

Short pass to Murray over the middle gets 7.

Pass into the end zone to Crabtree is not completed... 3rd and 8 coming up.

Pass to Crabtree draws the PI on Bouye. Places the ball at the Texan 8, 1st goal. Bouye shaken up on the play....

Pass to Walford broken up by C Moore, inc. 2nd and goal coming up.

Pass to Roberts goes to the 2 yard line.

Carr's pass can't find a home and goes inc. Raiders going for the FG.

Janikowski's 20-yarder is good.

Texans 17, Raiders 13

barrett 11-21-2016 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith (Post 44762)
Starting to look a little gassed on defense now. Altitude?

Big goal line stop though.

I don't think the altitude should be a huge factor. There is not a ton of cardio in football. As long as you can avoid cramping, the altitude shouldn't matter much in football.

Arky 11-21-2016 11:08 PM

The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.

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2:39 left in the 3rd qtr.

Hunt slips and slips again for a loss of 5.

Fuller hangs on for a catch of 17 yards, 1st down.

Aghhh, pass bounces off B Miller inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Oz scrambles for 11 and a 1st down.

Pass to Fido goes to the Raider 33, 1st down.

End of the 3rd qtr.

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Oz pressured, dumps off to L Miller for 5.

L Miller gets 3. 3rd and 2 coming up.

L Miller up the gut for 5 and the 1st down.

Pass to B Miller gets 6. Ball at the Raider 14.

Delay of game on the Texans, -5. Makes it 2nd and 9 coming up.

Pass to Mumph gets 8. 3rd and 1 coming up.

Oz throw off the mark, inc. to L Miller in the flat. Texans to go for the FG.

Novak's 28-yarder is good.

Texans 20, Raiders 13

10:57 left in the game.

Arky 11-21-2016 11:12 PM

The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Raider's ball at their 25.

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Pass to Olawale goes all the way.... 75 yards, TD.

Texans 20, Raiders 20

10:44 left in the game.

barrett 11-21-2016 11:12 PM

How does our safety lose his jock to the FB?

chuck 11-21-2016 11:14 PM

Don't worry, men, fullbacks regularly catch passes for 70 yard touchdowns.

barrett 11-21-2016 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 44769)
Don't worry, men, fullbacks regularly catch passes for 70 yard touchdowns.

How do you overrun that play and miss that tackle? Just break down and wait for help. The guy already has the 1st down and he isn't going anywhere if you stay off the ground. Instead Hal tries to fly in their to make up for blowing the coverage and ends up on the ground.

barrett 11-21-2016 11:26 PM

These spots are embarrassing. And O'Brien not challenging is more embarrassing.

Warren 11-21-2016 11:28 PM

Three bad spots in a row.

barrett 11-21-2016 11:28 PM

These refs are working us over. They better not pull the "call stands" garbage on this challenge.

chuck 11-21-2016 11:29 PM

BOB is an unbelievable idiot.


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