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Arky 11-08-2012 01:06 AM

Official Texans @ Bears Game Thread, 11/11/2012
 
This week, the 7-1 Texans travel to Chicago to take on the 7-1 Bears in their second Sunday-nighter of the year. The Texans need to show better focus as they trudged through a 12 point win after coming off their bye over the Bills last Sunday. The team, as of this writing, have "questionable" status on Shaun Cody, Owen Daniels, Kevin Walter and Ben Tate although that could change between now and Sunday.

Da Bears pretty much annihilated the Titans last Sunday in their house 51-20. Chicago's offense ranks 3rd in the league with 29.5 pts/game of which their defense has contributed 8 touchdowns to that average, so far. QB Jay Cutler has thrown 12 TD's and 8 INT's and has a QB rating of 85.3 (18th) but can get hot. The Texan defense will need to keep him uncomfortable if they want to improve their chances of winning.....

TV = NBC (Channel 2 local), 7:30 pm Sunday

Announcers = Al Michaels, Chris Collinsworth

The line = pickem to Chicago by 1

Sunday viewing in the Houston area:

CBS early = Denver @ Carolina
FOX early = NY Giants @ Cincinnati
FOX late = Dallas @ Philadelphia

nunusguy 11-08-2012 06:42 AM

With the exception of a strong home-field performance against a basically crippled Ravens team (certainly on D), the Texans really haven't been too impressive at all in their last 4 games.
To me the keys to the game are (1) the Texans' front 7 getting enough pressure on the Bears passing game to slow down the Cutler-Marshal combo,
(2) the Texans' woeful STs going against stellar Bears' ST units led by Kevin Hester, and (3) whether the Texans' rushing-game is able to move the chains against the Bears D ?
No matter how badly I personally may want the Texans to prevail in their second Sunday-night try this season in front of national TV to redeem themselves for the real stinker vs the Packers earlier in Reliant, I just don't see it happening, therefor 21-13, Bears.

HPF Bob 11-08-2012 06:00 PM

That seems to touch on the main points. Has the Bears OL turned a corner in protecting Cutler? I'm not sure.

Can the Texans run the ball on the Bears. Yes, to the left. Maybe no to the right.

I don't think the Texans STs will be giving Hester that many chances given the way they performed last week.

Two other questions: If Daniels is limited, who is going to take attention away from AJ in the passing game? Will weather be a factor? Temps likely in the 40s with strong chance for rain and 15-25 MPH winds.

My recollection of Bears-Broncos games during the Shanahan days are that his WCO struggled against the Bears who have been what they are for quite some time.

After thinking earlier in the season this could be a Texans win, my hunch says Bears take this one, 20-14.

barrett 11-09-2012 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 32400)
With the exception of a strong home-field performance against a basically crippled Ravens team (certainly on D), the Texans really haven't been too impressive at all in their last 4 games.
To me the keys to the game are (1) the Texans' front 7 getting enough pressure on the Bears passing game to slow down the Cutler-Marshal combo,
(2) the Texans' woeful STs going against stellar Bears' ST units led by Kevin Hester, and (3) whether the Texans' rushing-game is able to move the chains against the Bears D ?
No matter how badly I personally may want the Texans to prevail in their second Sunday-night try this season in front of national TV to redeem themselves for the real stinker vs the Packers earlier in Reliant, I just don't see it happening, therefor 21-13, Bears.

We've got a 3-1 record and a +30 point differential in the last 3 games. If we play that "unimpressively" the rest of the season we finish at 13-3 with home field advantage throughout.

And I don't see how you dismiss the Ravens win. They may have looked crippled against the Texans, but they look pretty good against everyone else. Their offense especially has been very good this year, has few injuries, and was destroyed by our defense. That game was far more about what we did than what they were missing. Ray Lewis would had little effect on Joe Flacco posting the worst QBR in the 5 year history of the stat.

I am pretty sure the Bears game will be decided by things like the 2 points you made, and I am pretty sure the Bears game won't be decided by how "impressive" the Texans looked in the last 4 games.

Arky 11-09-2012 12:04 PM

I think they (Texans) got a punchers chance, here. They could win by 10, they could lose by 10.

Frankly, I think the Bear offense is going to struggle against the Texan defense. Cutler can be explosive in spurts.... but he is not the carve-master that a red hot Aaron Rodgers can be. Now, the Bears defense may score... the Bears special teams may score.... but I don't see the Bears offense running away with the game like the Green Bay offense was able to do.

The Texan offense needs to play clean - no sloppiness, no turnovers. Game total (over/under) is presently at 41 pts and dropping so the public thinks it will be a low scoring affair....

Nconroe 11-09-2012 12:21 PM

I think it could be a tight fairly low scoring game.

If Texans keep their composure, avoid dumb penalties and turnovers, then they can win.

Go Texans, show everyone you can win the tough games.

And I hope ST has turned the corner to atleast middle of the pack .

Wet and windy, maybe that helps Texans grind it out with their time of possession game.

chuck 11-09-2012 12:45 PM

Cutler doesn't scare me at all and the Texans' offense is diverse enough to move the ball on any defense. Ideally the Texans will somehow get a lead and force the Bears to throw the ball and reduce Forte's impact. Barring that it will be a matter of turnovers. The team that doesn't make them wins.

barrett 11-09-2012 03:15 PM

Cutler has been one of the worst QB in the NFL against the blitz this year (league-worst 14 sacks and %52.4 completion). The Texans have blitzed more than any NFL team this year. The bears struggle to score if their defense can't put it in the endzone. We are near the bottom of the NFL in turnovers.

I am definitely concerned about this game, but the matchups actually play out pretty nice for us. I would say (like everyone else who likes to state the obvious), that if we win the turnover battle it will be hard for us to lose this one.

nunusguy 11-10-2012 07:02 AM

People in Houston are starting to get goofy again with all this talk about Sundays game in ChiTown being the most important game in the Texans history. OK there's a lot of hype surrounding the game, a lot of national attention with two 7-1 teams and the big national TV audience and all, but the simple truth is next weeks game with the lowly Jags in Reliant is clearly a much more important game for the Texans 2012 season.

chuck 11-10-2012 11:22 AM

This upcoming game is not in the same universe of importance as any and every playoff game.

TheMatrix31 11-11-2012 04:25 AM

The game against New England will be "more important" than the Chicago game. Both are important, as is every game in the NFL.

Protect the ball. Don't kick to Hester. This is a week where Schaub's Shitty Throw of the Game (tm) can REALLY hurt us, especially if it's thrown to Charles Tillman.

Just play smart. These two teams are pretty similar, IMO.

Gonna have to watch this game recorded. Uncle's 50th tonight. Argh.

HPF Bob 11-11-2012 11:49 AM

My new work schedule will have me working Saturday and Sunday (afternoons and evenings) so this is the last Sunday game I will watch live for the rest of the year. I'll get to see the Monday Night game though since that is a day off.

barrett 11-11-2012 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMatrix31 (Post 32418)
The game against New England will be "more important" than the Chicago game. Both are important, as is every game in the NFL.

Protect the ball. Don't kick to Hester. This is a week where Schaub's Shitty Throw of the Game (tm) can REALLY hurt us, especially if it's thrown to Charles Tillman.

Just play smart. These two teams are pretty similar, IMO.

Gonna have to watch this game recorded. Uncle's 50th tonight. Argh.

In schaub's last 18 games (last 2 seasons) he has 11 games without an interception and only 7 games with one. Your (tm) statement is stupid and inaccurate.

Warren 11-11-2012 07:05 PM

Inactives
 
Texans:
RB Ben Tate
TE Owen Daniels
G Brandon Brooks
G Cody White
DT Shaun Cody
S Troy Nolan
CB Rashad Carmichael

Bears:
WR Alshon Jeffery
WR Dane Sanzenbacher
TE Brody Eldridge
OL Edwin Williams
DT Amobi Okoye
DT Matt Toeaina
DE Cheta Ozougwu

Arky 11-11-2012 07:27 PM

Almost gametime.... lookin' like some nasty weather...

Late betting action favored the Texans....

Arky 11-11-2012 07:32 PM

Texans win the toss and will receive....

Martin gets hit and fumbles the ball --- Bears recover....

Replay showing Martin was down.... surely it will be overturned?

Fumble ruling is overturned, Texans ball at their 18.

Nconroe 11-11-2012 07:35 PM

Whew, near disaster.

Rain.

Manning creates fumble and Dobbins takes to 30.

That's the way D.

Arky 11-11-2012 07:37 PM

Schaub dumps off to Graham for gain of 1.

Deep pass to AJ a tad too long, off his hands, inc. 3rd and 9 coming up.

Foster for about 4 or 5. Texans to punt.

Hester brings the punt back to the Bear 45, 20 yds on the return.

Arky 11-11-2012 07:39 PM

Yeah baby, pass to Davis is stripped by Manning, picked up by Dobbins and returned all the way to the Bear 28. 15-yard penalty against the Texan bench added at the end of the run. Ball at the Bear 43, Texans ball.

Pass to AJ goes for 11 or 12.

Schaub's pass over the middle to AJ sails inc. 2nd and 10 coming up at the Bear 32.

Foster sweeps left for 3. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Dump to AJ goes for 7 and the 1st down.

Arky 11-11-2012 07:45 PM

Foster goes right for about 1.

Foster goes off right tackle for 13. 1st and goal at the 7.

Foster for maybe 1. 2nd and goal at the 6 coming up.

Foster for 1, again. 3rd and goal from the 5....

Swing pass to Foster only gets 2.... Texans to go for the FG.

Graham's 20-yarder is good.

Texans 3, Bears 0

8:13 left in the 1st quarter.

Arky 11-11-2012 07:55 PM

Bears return the ensuing (short) kickoff back to their 37. Bears ball.

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Forte for about 2.

Short pass to Bennett goes for about 9 and a 1st down.

Forte for 3.

Cutler scrambles for almost 7, just short of the 1st down.

Dumpoff to Hester is caught and may not have the 1st down.....Measurement shows it about a football-length short..... 4th and inches... Bears appear to be going for it....

Bush gets the 1st down but fumbles! Recovered by B James! Texans ball at their 43!

chuck 11-11-2012 07:56 PM

Bulls on Parade are bringing the wood today. Let's get in the end zone and pull away from these clowns.

barrett 11-11-2012 07:57 PM

I think our defense heard enough this week about the bears defense and how great they were.

Arky 11-11-2012 08:01 PM

Correction: ball at the Texan 27.

Schaub pressured and throws it away... 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to AJ good for 5. 3rd and 5 coming up.

Dumpoff to Foster gets about 8 and the 1st down.

Schaub pressured again and throws it away, inc.

Foster crowded for no gain. 3rd and 10 coming up.

Jennings INT's Schaub's pass and is downed at the Texan 45. Bears ball.

chuck 11-11-2012 08:02 PM

Run the ball Kubiak, goddamnit.

Arky 11-11-2012 08:05 PM

Pass to Marshall complete for about 14.

Forte for 1.

Cutler's pass is INT'ed by Manning at the Texan 9! Texans ball.

It's a slopfest! lol!

barrett 11-11-2012 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 32434)
Run the ball Kubiak, goddamnit.

But chuck, it's not like you can expect a WR to slip...in the rain...

Arky 11-11-2012 08:09 PM

Forsett for 2.

Foster for 17 on the left side. Ball at the Texan 28.

End of the 1st quarter.

Warren 11-11-2012 08:10 PM

At this rate those three points may hold up.

chuck 11-11-2012 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett (Post 32436)
But chuck, it's not like you can expect a WR to slip...in the rain...

Arian Foster and Matt Forte in the driving rain and both of these geniuses are throwing the ball all over the place. Unreal.

Arky 11-11-2012 08:12 PM

Foster for no gain.

Schaub's floats one up and Jenning INT's, again. Bears ball at the Texan 38.

Play is under review....

chuck 11-11-2012 08:14 PM

Run the ball.

Puto boludo.

barrett 11-11-2012 08:15 PM

How can you announce a play was blown dead and then review it?

It is one or the other.

Big Texas 11-11-2012 08:19 PM

Is it not pretty obvious that we cant throw the ball downfield...stop it already...

Arky 11-11-2012 08:20 PM

Play stands... Bears ball at the Texan 38.

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Forte for 4.

Forte for 1. 3rd and 5 coming up.

Deep pass to Marshall in the endzone off his hands inc. Gould to attempt 51-yard FG.

FG is good.

Texans 3, Bears 3

12:52 left in the half.

Arky 11-11-2012 08:27 PM

Martin brings the ensuing kickoff back to the Texan 21.

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Foster for 6.

Foster for 3. 3rd and 1 coming up.

Foster goes right side for nice gain.. about 8. Ball at the Texan 43.

Forsett goes left for 4.

Forsett caught in the backfield, loss of 2. Makes it 3rd and 9 coming up.

Dumpoff to Foster only gets a couple. Texans to punt.

Punt goes into the endzone, touchback. Bears ball at their 20. 8:44 left in the half.

Arky 11-11-2012 08:33 PM

Cutler goes deep, no one home, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Marshall goes for 7. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Deep pass to Hester is inc. Bears have to punt.

Punt rolls dead at the Texan 34. Texans ball. 7:31 left in the half.

Arky 11-11-2012 08:38 PM

Pass to Casey off the mark, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to AJ good for 11 and a 1st down.

Foster goes around left end for 7. Ball in Bear territory. 2nd and 3 coming up.

Foster goes for 22! Ball at the Bear 27.

Forsett takes it all the way to the 3! 1st and goal!

Foster for 1.

Short pass to Foster goes for the TD!

Texans 10, Bears 3

4:14 left in the half.

chuck 11-11-2012 08:40 PM

Their offense cannot beat our defense. Run the ball, Gary.

barrett 11-11-2012 08:41 PM

I'm glad we remembered how good foster is as a receiver.


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