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Arky 10-10-2010 01:33 PM

Earl Mitchell covers up the squib kick. Still 1 second left in the half.

Schaub kneels it.

Halftime.

NBT 10-10-2010 01:36 PM

Da Giants ain't Washington Dude. We needed the ball back in the worst way. The Giants just casually moved the ball from their own 3yd line all the way to a FG with 3 seconds left in the half. Way to go Defense. Our defense sucked. Kubiak have you got an adjustment for the second half, Something that is not so vanilla as what you called in the first half?

Arky 10-10-2010 01:39 PM

Halftime stats:

Passing: Schaub 8/17, 69 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT

Rushing: Foster 8/9

Receiving: OD 3/45, Leach 2/18, KW 1/10

Tackles: Ryans/Cushing 5 each, Nolan/Jackson 4 each, Pollard/Okoye/GQ 3 each

Time of possession: Giants 17:33, Texans 12:27

3rd down conversions: Texans 2/7, Giants 3/5

Red zone: Giants 3/3, Texans 0/0

Turnovers: Giants 0, Texans 1

Fonz the Boss 10-10-2010 01:43 PM

3 and out for the Giants coming out of the half then we score our first TD

Arky 10-10-2010 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonz the Boss (Post 22153)
you gotta believe... I believed when we were getting our tails kicked in Washington

They'll do better in the 2nd half .... Can't have a half much worse than that one...

Arky 10-10-2010 01:48 PM

Rackers kickoff is brought back to the Giants 24.

Bradshaw TFL -2. Brings up 2nd and 12.

Dump to Bradshaw gets 5 or 6. Brings up 3rd and 4.

Manning pressured chunks it away. Giants have to punt.

DA smothered on the punt about the Texan 17. Texans ball.

nunusguy 10-10-2010 01:52 PM

Any particular reason why Kubiak keeps DA on the team, other than he went to CSU ? He's so slow.

Arky 10-10-2010 01:53 PM

Schaub pressured chunks it inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Deep pass to AJ goes for a big gainer. 48 yards. Ball at the Giants 45.

Ball is knocked loose from Schaub. Tuck recovers. Giants ball. Oy.

Fonz the Boss 10-10-2010 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonz the Boss (Post 22157)
3 and out for the Giants coming out of the half then we score our first TD

Nevermind, we needed to score on that drive to have a chance.... Its over

Arky 10-10-2010 01:59 PM

Ball at the Texan 47.

Manning can't find anyone open and scrambles for 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.

Jacobs -2 on the sweep right but flag on the play.... Leg whip on Giants. Makes it 2nd and 21.

Dump to Boss gets 7. 3rd and 14 coming up.

INT'ed by McManis! Texans ball near midfield.

Arky 10-10-2010 02:00 PM

Slaton for 3. Brings up 2nd and 7.

Pass to KW gets a 1st down at the Giants 35.

Schaub's pass is dropped by DA. Personal foul on Dreesen backs it up 15.

Deep pass to AJ goes inc. 2nd and 25 coming up.

Pass to AJ good for 7. 3rd and 18 coming up.

Pre-snap offsides Giants +5. 3rd and 13 coming up.

Pass to OD is knocked loose inc. Texans have to punt.

Punt goes into the endzone. Giants ball at their 20.

Arky 10-10-2010 02:09 PM

Pass to Boss gets knocked loose inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Manning pressured throws it out of bounds. 3rd and 10 coming up.

Flag on Giants -5..... 3rd and 15...

INT'ed by KJ! Brings it all the way back to the Texan 17.

Arky 10-10-2010 02:11 PM

Pass to AJ goes to 1.

Ward rushes the one yard for the TD!

Giants 24, Texans 10

TheMatrix31 10-10-2010 02:13 PM

Hey, Kareem Jacksoff did something!

I think Andre caught that pass anyway. Good to see Ward punch it in!

Big Texas 10-10-2010 02:16 PM

That INT came from the pressure on the QB. I think Manning got hit when he threw that pass...

Way to make something of it KJ...

Arky 10-10-2010 02:17 PM

7 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.

Giants bring the kickoff back to the Texan 29.

Pass to Nicks goes for 1. 2nd and 9 coming up.

Pass to Nicks gets 2. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Dang, Pass to Nicks gets about 15 and the 1st down. Ball at the Giant 46.

Bradshaw gets about 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.

Pass to Smith goes for 11 and a 1st down - ball at the Texan 39.

Bradshaw for about 2. 2nd and 8 coming up.

Dump to Bradshaw gets about 5. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Pass is caught out of bounds but illegal hands to the face on McCain. Auto 1st down Giants.

Big Texas 10-10-2010 02:20 PM

Back to same ol same ol KJ...

Arky 10-10-2010 02:25 PM

Bradshaw rushes for 3. About 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter.

Manning's pass in the endzone goes inc - no one home. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Pass by Manning is inc. Giants to go for the FG.

42 yard attempt is good.

Giants 27, Texans 10

1:22 left in the 3rd quarter.

TheMatrix31 10-10-2010 02:25 PM

Pollard almost blocked that, damn.

Arky 10-10-2010 02:27 PM

Slaton not much on the kickoff. Ball at the Texan 13.

Dump to Ward gets about 12. 1st down.

Pass to KW off the mark. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Strike to AJ good for 18. 1st down.

Schaub sacked by Tuck back at the Texan 35. Makes it 2nd and 18.

End of 3rd quarter.

Arky 10-10-2010 02:33 PM

Dump to Foster gets about 6. 3rd and 12 coming up.

Schaub can't find anyone open and throws it away. Texans have to punt.

Giants bring the punt back to their 17.

nunusguy 10-10-2010 02:36 PM

This game reminds me of the game last year in Reliant against the other NY team, except this one is a worse azz-thumpin.

Big Texas 10-10-2010 02:36 PM

I know I should not be rooting for Tennessee, but I just cannot see myself going for the Cowgirls...

Arky 10-10-2010 02:39 PM

14 minutes left in the game.

Jacobs rushes for 9. 2nd and 1 coming up.

Jacobs gets 1 and the 1st down.

Jacobs TFL by DeMeco -2. 2nd and 12 coming up.

Bobbled snap - Manning fall on it - loss of 5. 3rd and 17 coming up.

Manning scrambles for 7. Giants have to punt.

Nice return by DA but flag on the play. Illegal block in back on Nading.

Arky 10-10-2010 02:42 PM

Texans set up at their own 22. 10:33 left in the game.

Schaub shovels to Foster who drops it. 2nd and 10 coming up.

AJ drops it - pass slightly behind him. 3rd and 10 coming up.

Pass to AJ goes inc. but flag on the play. Holding on Winston declined. Texans have to punt.

Illegal block in back on Giants on the return. Giants ball at their own 27. 10:03 left in the game.

Arky 10-10-2010 02:48 PM

Pass to Smith goes for big gainer. 45 yards. Ball at the Texan 28.

Flag pre-snap. Delay of game Giants -5. 1st and 15.

Pass to Nicks good for about 7. 2nd and 8 coming up.

Pass to Nicks good for the 1st down at the Texan 17.

Bradshaw TFL -3. 2nd and 13 coming up.

Pass in the endzone to Boss overthrown. 3rd and 13 coming up.

Pass to Bradshaw gets about 9. Flag on the play. Holding on Giants is declined. Giants to go for the FG.

29 yarder is good but flag on the play. Offsides Pollard gives the Giants a 1st down.

Arky 10-10-2010 02:55 PM

Ball at the Texan 6.

Bradshaw rushes to the 1. 2nd and goal.

Jacobs TFL -3. 3rd and goal from the 4.

Pass to Smith good for the TD.

Giants 34, Texans 10

4:50 left in the game.

NBT 10-10-2010 02:58 PM

What we have here is a coach that can't see his ass from a molehill. With Kubiak at the helm we will never win the big one. I like him, he is a Houston boy and everything, but he simply cannot overcome his tendancy to underestimate his opponent. the Giants simply owned him from the getgo today.

Arky 10-10-2010 03:00 PM

Slaton brings the kickoff back to the Texan 17.

Foster sweeps right for 9. 2nd and 1 coming up.

Foster for 7. 1st down.

Run for 6.

Slaton tackled in backfield. Loss of about 2. 3rd and 8 coming up.

Pass off DA's hands too high inc. 4th and 8

Schaub bobbles the snap and hits Foster in the flat for no gain. Giants ball.

Fonz the Boss 10-10-2010 03:04 PM

I wish guys would make up their mind about what they think of the Texans. When we play good everybody rallies behind them giving props all around. When things go bad everybody wants somebody fired.... Chill out guys, we still have the division lead. We are not gonna play this bad every single week. Besides, this is the Fox jinx. We go back to CBS next week and things will be all right.

Big Texas 10-10-2010 03:05 PM

The problem is that Kubiak is a stubborn coach. He has an offense that he wants to run no matter what. He has assumed that the teams success has been because of his offense. I would counter that the teams success has been due to the talent on this team.

When presented with a defense that has figured out his offense, he simply has no adjustments. He continues to do the same thing. Thats why our losses have been blowouts.

We have playoff talent on this team. However, our coaching staff (offense/defense) is subpar...

Arky 10-10-2010 03:05 PM

Jacobs rushes for 14. Ball at the Texan 21.

2 minute warning.

nunusguy 10-10-2010 03:07 PM

Giants controlled the los on both sides of the ball, and got pressure on Schaub whereas Manning had all day to throw the ball.
I think that's more about who's got the best players than who had the best game strategy, so I don't see todays loss as an issue about coaching.

Arky 10-10-2010 03:08 PM

Giants kneeling it out.

Final score:

Giants 34, Texans 10

Big Texas 10-10-2010 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonz the Boss (Post 22183)
I wish guys would make up their mind about what they think of the Texans. When we play good everybody rallies behind them giving props all around. When things go bad everybody wants somebody fired.... Chill out guys, we still have the division lead. We are not gonna play this bad every single week. Besides, this is the Fox jinx. We go back to CBS next week and things will be all right.


Their is only one actual player that I have an issue with (KJ). My main concern is the coaching, both offense and defense. When we lose, we lose BADDDDDDD...

2 blowouts in 3 games is not reminiscent of a playoff team.

A loss I am OK with...A blowout I am not....

Big Texas 10-10-2010 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 22186)
Giants controlled the los on both sides of the ball, and got pressure on Schaub whereas Manning had all day to throw the ball.
I think that's more about who's got the best players than who had the best game strategy, so I don't see todays loss as an issue about coaching.

Good coaching adjusts to personnel. We have had the same OL and DL for about 1 year and a half now. We have talent. It is just not being used properly.

Arky 10-10-2010 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 22186)
Giants controlled the los on both sides of the ball, and got pressure on Schaub whereas Manning had all day to throw the ball.
I think that's more about who's got the best players than who had the best game strategy, so I don't see todays loss as an issue about coaching.

I'm with this. Texans got out-physical'ed at the LOS. Sprinkle in some mental mistakes, untimely turnovers and you get complete domination from the Giants.

Time of possession: Giants 38:51, Texans 21:09

1st downs: Giants 26, Texans 11

Total yards: Giants 414, Texans 195

Big Texas 10-10-2010 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 22186)
Giants controlled the los on both sides of the ball, and got pressure on Schaub whereas Manning had all day to throw the ball.
I think that's more about who's got the best players than who had the best game strategy, so I don't see todays loss as an issue about coaching.

CBs lining up 10-15 yards off the recievers and consistently being punished underneath. Then when you decide to go Man to Man you get two picks. But for some reason you go right back to zone coverage to be beaten consistently again. A good coach adjusts and adjusts and adjusts until they find something that works.

The announcers consistently pointed out that the Defense consistently was a step ahead of the Offense. That is good coaching...

Big Texas 10-10-2010 03:17 PM

Safeties were consistently playing the cutback. Dlinemen did not have to get consistent pressure they only had to get a hand up because they were aware of Shaub's tendencies. This was good coaching...

NBT 10-10-2010 03:20 PM

This happens a lot with the Texans. A physical team just seems to totally discombobulate Kubiak. So I say he will never win the big one, and that is all we really care about, right? Is it time for a coaching change?


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