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Arky 12-18-2011 03:28 PM

Foster for 6. 2nd and 4 coming up.

Foster gets 5 and the 1st down. 1st and goal at the 1.

Foster for the TD!

Panthers 21, Texans 13

13:48 left in the game.

Arky 12-18-2011 03:37 PM

Panthers down the ensuing kickoff in their endzone. Panthers ball at the 20.

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Wow, looks like the Colts might beat the Titans. 20-6 with 8 minutes left.

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Williams for 2. 2nd and 8 coming up.

Newton scrambles for 13 on a keeper, 1st down.

Williams for 5. 2nd and 5 coming up.

Williams for 1. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Pass to Naanee is complete for 9 and the 1st down at midfield.

Throwback pass to Shockey gets 25.

Williams goes right up the gut for the TD. 24 yards.

Panthers 28, Texans 13

9:54 left in the game.

barrett 12-18-2011 03:39 PM

Watch the replay of that TD and tell me where demeco is going and what he sees.

Arky 12-18-2011 03:45 PM

Nice return by Demps on the kickoff - brings it back to the Texan 44.

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Pass to JJ good for big gain. 22 yards.

Dump to Foster goes to the 10 yard line. 1st and goal at the 10.

Foster for 3. 2nd and goal at the 7.

Yates pressured, scrambles out of bounds, loss of 2.

Yates tosses it to a Panther in the endzone. INT. Panthers ball at the Texan 3.

Arky 12-18-2011 03:55 PM

Williams (?) for no gain. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Stewart for 2. 3rd and 8 coming up.

Newton keeps for 8 and the 1st down.

Stewart for 2 or 3. Timeout Texans. 5:12 left in the game.

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Pass to Smith goes for big gain, 22 yards. Timeout Texans, last one.

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Stewart for 11.

Stewart for no gain.

Williams sweeps left for 8. 3rd and 2 coming up.

Newton for 3 and the 1st down.

Williams for 3.

2 minute warning.

Nconroe 12-18-2011 03:57 PM

Too bad, looks like we are down to a learning experience.

barrett 12-18-2011 03:58 PM

Ugly effort today. 3 turnovers, bad hold/fg miss, tons of penalties, bad tackling, and head scratching play calling in the redzone all day. A team effort in giving this one away.

Arky 12-18-2011 04:00 PM

Williams for 3. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Williams for 5 or 6 and the 1st down.

Panthers kneeling it out.

Final score:

Panthers 28, Texans 13

Glad we got the let-down game out of the way.... :rolleyes:

Fonz the Boss 12-18-2011 04:07 PM

They needed to get humbled before the playoffs

HPF Bob 12-18-2011 04:08 PM

Somewhere in Vegas there is some poor slob who bet the Christmas bonus on the Colts, Chiefs and Panthers and is celebrating like crazy.

There's also some poor slob who bet the Christmas bonus on the Packers, Texans and Titans (what could possibly go wrong?) and is now trying to figure out how to lie to his wife.

This week also makes you wonder if somebody from the players union says "okay, this is the week we make our money..."

Arky 12-18-2011 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fonz the Boss (Post 28421)
They needed to get humbled before the playoffs

Yep, might be the best thing to happen but I didn't like seeing TJ moving backwards...

barrett 12-18-2011 04:21 PM

I don't think it's ever a good thing to lose. And there isn't any logic that says there is. Only excuses say losing is good. We stunk today. We need to be better next week.

nunusguy 12-18-2011 04:34 PM

Yates really looked like a rookie today, the whole team came out flat, and then we have 3 turnovers and they have none so we give ourselves no chance to win this game. NP because everybody has a bad day, even the Packers.
And it's also games like this one when one realizes just how ineffective our offense is without our starting QB and Andre.

Arky 12-18-2011 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett (Post 28424)
I don't think it's ever a good thing to lose. And there isn't any logic that says there is. Only excuses say losing is good. We stunk today. We need to be better next week.

Getting humbled can be turned into a good thing. It could and should force the team to get their heads out of their butts and refocus and take care of business the next two games. Unfortunate that it took a loss to get there....

barrett 12-18-2011 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arky (Post 28426)
Getting humbled can be turned into a good thing. It could and should force the team to get their heads out of the butts and refocus and take care of business the next two games. Unfortunate that it took a loss to get there....

To get where? If we win today it's a 8 game winning streak and our heads were never in our butts. How is it better to lose to possibly get back to where we would already be if we had won?

Winning games is good and losing them is bad. Very simple.

Arky 12-18-2011 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett (Post 28427)
To get where? If we win today it's a 8 game winning streak and our heads were never in our butts. How is it better to lose to possibly get back to where we would already be if we had won?

Winning games is good and losing them is bad. Very simple.

barrett, I hate to break it to you but 16-0 doesn't happen all that much. One can learn from losing just as much as they can from winning. It's a young team that hasn't been here before. They're not a well-oiled winning machine with no flaws...Things that force you to get better and being the best you can be are progress. If you can't wrap your mind around that, then I have nothing further to say.

I don't like it when they lose either but ultimately, I have no control over it..

barrett 12-18-2011 05:36 PM

I didn't say we need to go 16-0. I also didn't say you can't learn from a loss. I said we stunk and we need to play better next week.

Winning is always better than losing. It's not rocket science and trying to pretend a loss is good after the fact is foolish. I sure didn't hear you before noon saying, "boy we need to lose this one as a learning experience."

chuck 12-18-2011 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 28425)
And it's also games like this one when one realizes just how ineffective our offense is without our starting QB and Andre.

This is the first game where I felt that the offense was seriously compromised by not having Andre.

Winning is always good; losing is always bad. But I could very definitely envision a scenario where a very poor game like this followed very quickly by a shot at redemption might ultimately give this team a chance to profit.

John McClain, someone I never expect to go to Oslo to receive a Nobel Prize, said something thought provoking after the game. He said that he thought that a young team (the Texans) benefited from playing the first week of the playoffs whereas an older team definitely benefits from a week off. Having home field the second week of the playoffs is very valuable obviously, but I can see his point.

barrett 12-18-2011 05:47 PM

The bye gets you a step closer to the superbowl, but a 1st round game us probably our best chance at a win. Not sure how likely the superbowl is so I would not be heartbroken by a shot at the jets or bengals instead of the steelers/ravens/patriots in round 2.

Arky 12-18-2011 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett (Post 28431)
I didn't say we need to go 16-0. I also didn't say you can't learn from a loss. I said we stunk and we need to play better next week."

And I never said losing was a good thing. That was your interpretation.

Barry Warner just called this a "good loss" on the radio. Say what you will about Warner but I know where he's coming from ...


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