Ingram is an absolute stud also. Love watching Bama just because of those two. McClain reminds me of Jack Lambert.

Sergio Render is the one Im hoping for as far as interior line goes.

October 31 mock. 7 rounder SR. Jr. using Draft tek ranking as a rough guide.

#20 *Joe Haden,CB/KR 5-10, 190, Florida
#52 Brandon Ghee, CB 5-11, 195, Wake Forest
#84 *Morgan Burnett, SS/FS 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
116 Jordan Lake, SS/FS 6-1, 210, Baylor
129 Motario Hardesty, RB 5-11, 215, Tenn compensatory pick for Dunta Robinson
150 Roddrick Muckeloy, OLB 6-1, 240, Texas
182 Sergio Render, OG 6-3, 325, Virginia Tech
185 Boo Robinson, DT 6-2, 325, Wake Forest Completion of Travis Johnson trade
214 *John Clay, RB 6-2, 247, Wisconsin

Thank we would finally have depth in the secondary?

Wow, I'd be very surprised to see that draft.

Draft tek's ranking are way out of reality. They tighten up as we get later in the draft process. But currently having Burnett available in the mid 3rd is unlikely. Render and Boo Robinson in the 6th round, OK. So I cherry picked some studs that will help this team in round.

But wouldn't it be cool to have our entire secondary solidified in one draft? I could have gone the other way and taken lineman only. Buffalo is going through that growth process now.

I may get flamed but what about the thought of drafting Tebow in round 2 (if available). My thinking is he could do all the short yardage stuff, learn behind Schaub, and get some Wild Cat looks, not to mention he is about as high character as you can get and unlike Carr I think he has the passion necessary to succeed. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.:)

The way the team seems to be maturing, depth stepping up when given opportunities, this may be a trade down and take best guy available draft. I dont know, but I agree getting solid CB and Safety for sure would be nice. I doubt that would be first four picks, two of first four more likely, but who knows. I think we are ok now at CB and Safety, but upgradeable for sure.

Think about it though, Reeves, Quinn, Molden, Bennett, McCain with Haden and Ghee, Plus Burnett and Lake behind Pollard and Barber at safety.

That is not a bad secondary, now it would be young and it will have issues with growth, but a solid top to bottom group. BTW Molden and Bennett might not make that group.

If we draft any players for the Secondary, I would like a resume that contains many collegiate interceptions. The one thing this defense really needs are players who can take the ball away.

That would take Ghee out, and Haden would is below average as a hawk.

Highest Senior on the List Robert Johnson Utah CB Senior
Highest Junior on the list DeAndre McDaniel Clemson S

Future stars to watch (2011) Rahim Moore UCLA S Soph
Tyler Sash Iowa Hawkeyes CB Soph.
Earl Thomas Texas S Soph.

Thomas could leave for the draft this year because he redshirted his freshman year...He probably needs another year of seasoning at Texas, and Mack's been pretty good at not having guys leave early, but if he keeps playing at a high level it might be hard for him not to come out...especially if Texas ends up national champions :D.

Ok, put me down for Robert Johnson. :D

SS Klint Kubiak, 5-11, 200, Colorado State (XO)

;) MARK IT DOWN!

Molden has been a big dissapointment. He can't stay off the training table. Bennet just has not developed the way the team imagined he would. Secondary needs to be the primary area of focus. After that maybe offensive guards, and as always Dline.

Okay, I clicked on the initial link for the first time and these guys are nuts.

Browns select Colt McCoy with the overall #2 pick? While they have Anderson and Quinn already? That's stupid. First, McCoy's not worth a pick that high (low-1st, early 2nd at best) but then to put him on a team where QB isn't the glaring need. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Then they show Tim Tebow going #9 to the Redskins. Granted, the Redskins may be that stupid but Tebow ought to be a 4th or 5th rounder. No way he does the same crap he does at Florida unless you're running the Wildcat as your base offense. He isn't the passer to be a quality NFL starter.

I was too busy laughing to see who anyone else picked.

I do agree, however, that Suh will probably be the overall #1 no matter who gets the pick.

My hopefulls for round 1 through 3.

1st rpund Rolando McLain LB Alabama
2nd round Selvish Capers OT West Virginia
3rd round Trevard Lyndley CB Kentucky

Oh, I don't know, but Tebow could easily turn out to be a Rothlesburger clone in the NFL. One thing is for sure, he is a very strong leader. No way he goes past the first round IMHO.

http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm
has juniors and seniors

16 Joe Haden* CB 5'11" 228 Florida
48 Jeff Owens DT 6'3" 300 Georgia
80 Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn
112 Walter Thurmond III CB 6'0" 175 Oregon
144 Chris Todd QB 6'4" 210 Auburn
152 Justin Cole DE 6'3" 240 San Jose State
176 Barry Humphries OG 6'3" 295 Clemson
208 Riley Cooper WR 6'3" 215 Florida

OK draft until round 5.

MY cherry pick
16 Dez Bryant* WR 6'2" 210 Oklahoma State BPA
48 Javier Arenas CB 5'9" 200 Alabama
80 Sergio Render OG 6'3" 320 Virginia Tech
112 Kellen Heard DT 6'6" 330 Texas A&M
144 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
152 Mitch Petrus OG 6'5" 288 Arkansas
176 Robert Johnson S 6'3" 190 Utah
208 Gerald Williams OLB 6'4" 245 Tennessee

Lets try this again

16 Toby Gerhart RB 6'1" 235 Stanford
48 Vince Oghobaase DT 6'6" 312 Duke
80 80 Sergio Render OG 6'3" 320 Virginia Tech
112 Dan Doering OG 6'6" 300 Iowa
144 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
152 Andre Dixon RB 6'1" 208 Connecticut
176 Robert Johnson S 6'3" 190 Utah
208 Gerald Williams OLB 6'4" 245 Tennessee

Gerhart will give you a beast at RB. Oghobaase and Williams add size to the DTs. Render and Doering might not start their 1st year but they will in a year or two, and they have lot more upside than Studdard. Add Caldwell at OC and that should be a stud OL.

Dixon because you never have enough RBs.

I know, no safeties early and no CBs. I need size up the middle and the best way to do that is draft it.

Yep, right today, that sounds like what the doctor ordered.

Draft Tek 12/8/09
But this time I trade down. They have us drafting #9, and nobody worth while to pick for at least 10 picks. IMO

I trade our #9 and next years #1 to NE for #21, 46, 52, 53

#21 Joe Haden, CB, 5-10, 190 , 4.40, Florida
#41 Dan Williams, NT, 6-2, 325, 5.25, Tennessee
#46 Jon Asamoah, OG, 6-4, 315, 5.10, Illinois
#52 *Evan Royster, RB, 6-0, 210, 4.45, Penn State
#53 *Kareem Jackson, CB, 5-10, 192, 4.45, Alabama
#72 *Ras-I-Dowling, DB, 6-1, 200, 4.40, Virginia
#104 Mitch Pretus, OG, 6-3, 315, 5.10, Arkansas
#136 Ben Tate, RB, 5-10, 220, 4.45, Auburn
#168 Lamarr Houston, DT, 6-2, 300, 5.10, Texas
#182 Darryl Sharpton, ILB, 5-11, 235, 4.65, Miami
#200 Jonathan Crompton, QB, 6-3, 230, Tennessee

OL Brown 313, Asamoah 315, Caldwell 312, Pretus 315, Winston 315

DE Smith, Williams, Robinson, Williams
CB - Haden, Quinn, nickle Jackson, dime McCain, Reeves, Bennett
S - Pollard, Dowling, Barber, Nolan

RBs Royster, Slaton, Tate
FB/HB/TE Casey

I cant imagine NE trading away multiple picks to move up. Thats like expecting us to draft a RB in the first round. :( But if they (or anyone) would I would be all over it. If im GM, going into this draft theres one key word that would define this draft for me.

R.U.N.

No team makes it far unless they can R.U.N. the ball when they NEED to R.U.N. and no team goes very far if they cant stop the R.U.N. when they NEED to stop the R.U.N.. So improving the interior of both lines my #1 goal. Finding a RB that can get tough yards after contact is #2 goal. Adding another physical DB that is a playmaker is #3 goal. My draft would look something like this.

#21 Mike Iupati OG 6'6" 330 Idaho Improves R.U.N. #1 goal
#41 Toby Gerhart RB 6'1" 235 Stanford Improves R.U.N. #2 goal
#46 Javier Arenas CB 5'9" 200 Alabama #3 goal
#52 Sergio Render OG 6'3" 320 Virginia Tech Improves R.U.N. #1 goal
#53 Vince Oghobaase DT 6'6" 312 Duke Improves R.U.N. #1 goal
#72 Dennis Pitta TE 6'5" 230 BYU O.D. insurance
#104 Boo Robinson DT 6'2" 326 Wake Forest Improves R.U.N. #1 goal
#136 Adam Ulatoski OT 6'8" 305 Texas Improves R.U.N. #1 goal
#168 Thomas Austin C/OG 6'3" 310 Clemson Improves R.U.N. #1 goal
#182 BPA
#200 BPA

Mike Iupati Instant starter/upgrade that can get a push in short yardage.

Sergio Render Instant starter/upgrade that can get a push in short yardage.

Thomas Austin C/OG 6'3" 310 Clemson - Everything people (not me) thought A Caldwell would be for a 6th round pick. I said Caldwell was overrated before we drafted him and he's done nothing to prove me wrong.

Adam Ulatoski OT 6'8" 305 Texas Very talented backup OT to groom pair with Butler for depth.

These 4 give us an OL that is very deep and talented. By far the most talented and deep OL we have ever had.

OT's Duane Brown Rashad Butler Eric Winston Ulatoski
OG's Render Iupati Mike Brisiel C. White
C's C. Myers Austin

Toby Gerhart Does anything really need to be said here?

Vince Oghobaase Solid rotation guy guy possible starter.

Boo Robinson Solid rotation guy guy possible starter.

These two replace Zgonina F. Okam giving us youth, athleticism and size and solid depth for the best rotation we have ever had.

DT's A. Okoye D. Robinson Oghobaase Boo Robinson S. Cody

Javier Arenas Gives us a another physical playmaking DB that allows us to let Robinson walk. He also allows us to get something in trade for Jacoby Jones as he is an excellent returner.

Dennis Pitta is a OD clone. Do we really want to go through the Daunte Robinson fiasco again? This guy has great hands and at 6'5" gives Schaub a huge target.

Isn't that the new arguement against Kubiak? That the top teams in the NFL do not run well, they pass well and set up the run with the pass. They run from multisets that they also pass from.

As for the defense, I agree totally.

New Draft Tek Mock from PK.

I am going to use the big board dated 12/3/09

#12 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43 6-2 245
#32 Dan Williams Tennessee DT43 6-2 322 trade 2011 #1 &#2
#44 Jon Asamoah Illinois OG 6-4 312
#76 Javier Arenas Alabama CB PR 5-8 197
108 Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech SS 6-1 210
140 *Mike Pouncey Florida OG 6-5 315
172 Mario Butler Georgia Tech CB 6-1 182
204 James Starks Buffalo RBF 6-01 205

DraftTek.com has a new mock dated 12/15/09

This is theirs not mine.

#15 Brandon LaFell LSU WRF I have 2 WRs above him that are still on the board Dez Bryant, and Marshawn Gilyard
#47 Trevard Lindley Kentucky CB Solid pick IMO
#78 *Ryan Mathews RBF Fresno State
110 *Quan Sturdivant ILB North Carolina


My Cherry Pick Based on my opinion of need.
#15 Mike Iupati Idaho OG Instant upgrade at OG
#47 Trevard Lindley Kentucky CB
#78 J.D. Walton OG Baylor
110 Charles Scott RBF LSU
Your foundation of the inside OL is laid and solid youth.

Also IMO I would try to trade back into the 2nd with future picks in order to acquire one or more of the following :

#37 Jon Asamoah Illinois OG
#42 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43
#45 Dan Williams Tennessee DT34
#46 *Maurkice Pouncey Florida OC

PK,

I agree with your premise, but nobody takes a G at #15 and pays that signing bonus money at that spot.

their overall mock has to be one of the worst ones I have seen.

Just for fun....

13. FS Taylor Mays - Would have drafted him last year, so why not?
45. CB Perrish Cox - I like big CBs.
77. RB Ben Tate - RB in the 3rd round....
109. DT Jeff Owens - Bulldog DT
141. WR Arrelious Benn - Did he shoot himself in the thigh?
157. LB A.J. Edds - He's not Chad Greenway, but neither is Zac Diles.
173. OL Chris Scott - Looking for bodies
205. PK Leigh Tiffin - How many kicks did Kubiak not look at?

Which is why you attempt to trade down. I would be happy trading out of round 1 for the right deal.

NFL Draft Site has a new 7 rounder

13 Houston Taylor Mays S 6'4" 225 USC
45 Houston Brandon Ghee CB 6'1" 190 Wake Forest
77 Houston Mike Neal DT 6'4" 302 Purdue
109 Houston Charles Scott RB 5'11" 228 LSU
141 Houston Nathan Overbay TE 6'5" 270 Eastern Washington
157 Houston (from San Diego) Jacoby Ford WR 5'9" 175 Clemson
173 Houston Ryan Perrilloux QB 6'3" 223 Jacksonville State
205 Houston Justin Cole DE 6'3" 240 San Jose State

Starts out OK, but I do not see Kubiak/McNair drafting a kid with the past of Perrilloux.

My cherry pick:
Trade #13 to Dallas for #24 and #56
#24 Mike Iupati OG 6'6" 330 Idaho
Trade next seasons #1 and #2 to Philli for #28
#28 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
#45 Javier Arenas CB 5'9" 200 Alabama
#56 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois
#77 Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn
109 Justin Woodall S 6'2" 220 Alabama
141 Arrelious Benn* WR 6'2" 214 Illinois
157 A.J. Edds OLB 6'4" 244 Iowa
173 Zoltan Mesko P 6'4" 242 Michigan
205 Leigh Tiffin K 6'1" 198 Alabama

Using that website...

Trade #13 and 2011 4th round pick to Seattle for #25 and #41

25. Dan Williams NT Tennessee
41. Mike Johnson OG Alabama
45. Sergio Kindle OLB Texas
77. Kyle Wilson CB/PR Boise State
109. Charles Scott RB LSU
141. Riley Cooper WR Florida
157. Zac Robinson QB Oklahoma State
173. Jimmie Graham TE Miami
205. Leigh Tiffin K Alabama

OK drafttek has a new one. We are picking #20.

20 Brandon LaFell LSU WRF One of the better WR in the draft, and a wasted pick for us.
50 Trevard Lindley Kentucky CB solid pick
82 Anthony Dixon RBF Mississippi State solid pick
115 Michael Morgan OLB43 USC
145 Christian Ponder QB Florida State

Cherry Pick
I want a CB or OL with my 1st pick, no trades so a slight reach here

20 Mike Iupati Idaho OG
50 *Donovan Warren Michigan CB Reminds me of Dunta against the run.
82 Morgan Burnett SS Georgia Tech
115 *Mike Pouncey OG Florida
145 Ben Tate RBF Auburn
177 Zoltan Mesko Michigan P
180 Colin Peek Alabama TE
209 Leigh Tiffin Alabama PK

NFL draftsite.com

20 Jahvid Best* RB 5'10" 195 California
51 Brandon Ghee CB 6'1" 190 Wake Forest
82 Damian Williams* WR 6'1" 195 USC
116 Lindsey Witten DE 6'4" 251 Connecticut
147 Torrell Troup DT 6'3" 314 UCF
158 Zac Robinson QB 6'3" 218 Oklahoma State
178 Shawn Lauvao OG 6'3" 310 Arizona State
212 Dennis Landolt OT 6'4" 310 Penn State

Cherry Pick
20 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
51 Brandon Ghee CB 6'1" 190 Wake Forest
82 Dexter McCluster RB 5'8" 165 Mississippi
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