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Big Texas 08-15-2011 09:03 PM

I just saw something I was not pleased with...

3rd and 18

Brooks Reed rushed the passer. He got excellent penetration; forced the QB to scramble away from him. After seeing that the QB was running away, Reed proceeded to give up on the play before the QB even got rid of the ball...

Is this conditioning or effort?

Arky 08-15-2011 09:04 PM

Townsel brings the kickoff back to the Texan 20 or 21 yard line. Flag.....again kicking team offside so re-kick.

This kick is only brought back to the 16 by Townsel. Texans ball.

Leinart's pass is tipped then INT'ed by the Jets. Jets ball at the Texan 20 or so....

Arky 08-15-2011 09:08 PM

Screen pass to Powell goes all the way to the Texan 1. 1st and goal Jets.

Jets lose 1. Makes it 2nd and goal at the 2.

Jets lose another 1 yard. Makes it 3rd and goal at the 3.

Quick slant pass to the receiver (Turner) is good for the TD.

Texans 13, Jets 13

5:56 left in the 3rd quarter.

Arky 08-15-2011 09:19 PM

Townsel brings the kickoff back to the Texan 22.

Oggie for 2 off left tackle.

Dump to Oggie only goes for about 2. 3rd and 6 coming up. Texan center (Cody Wallace) slow getting up. Injury timeout. Replaced by Barbieri.

Leinart's 3rd down pass is batted down. Texans have to punt.

Punt is brought back by the Jets to their 43 yard line.

Arky 08-15-2011 09:22 PM

Oooh, deep pass is dropped by the Jets receiver. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Turner picks up about 4. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Pass to Cumberland is broken up by McCain. Jets to punt.

Demps gets smashed out of bounds at the Texan 18 on the punt return.

Arky 08-15-2011 09:26 PM

TJ Yates in.

Dump to Vickers gets 22.

Oggie for no gain or -1.

Pass to Townsel gets about 6. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Oggie only gets 1 on the pitch left. Texans have to punt. 56 seconds left in the 3rd quarter.

Maynard's punt goes out of bounds at the Jets 8 or 9 yard line. Jets ball.

Arky 08-15-2011 09:28 PM

Powell for about 3.

McElroy's pass is batted down by Bulman. 3rd and 7 coming up.

End of the 3rd quarter.

Arky 08-15-2011 09:31 PM

On 3rd and 7, McElroy's pass is inc. Jets have to punt.

Demps runs backwards and gets tackled. Texans ball at their 32.

Arky 08-15-2011 09:32 PM

Ouch! Yates deep pass to a wide open Townsel is just off his fingertips. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Yates can't find anyone open and throws it away.

On 3rd and 10, Yates gets sacked. Texans to punt. (the all-important Plexico Buress phone call is on right now).

Jets return the punt to their 45.

13:27 left in the game.

chuck 08-15-2011 09:35 PM

This team's return game is a disgrace.

WMH 08-15-2011 09:37 PM

3rd string or not, I believe that is the first COVERAGE sack we have seen in the last 3 years.....

Arky 08-15-2011 09:39 PM

McElroy is sacked -5. 2nd and 15 coming up.

Pass to Cumberland gets to near midfield. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Dump pass too hot to handle and goes inc. Jets have to punt.

Punt goes into the endzone. Flag down. Holding on the Texans -10. Texans ball at their 10.

Arky 08-15-2011 09:44 PM

Yates can't find anyone open and runs out of bounds for no gain.

Oggie for maybe 1. 3rd and 9 coming up.

Pass to Maehl gets about 5. Texans to punt.

Some bad tackling lets the Jets return the ball to about their 47.

Arky 08-15-2011 09:51 PM

Ball at the Jets 48.

Powell rushes for about 6. 2nd and 4 coming up.

Powell for 5. 1st down.

Dump pass to Kerley good for about 3.

Dump over the middle to Cumberland gets about 8 and a 1st down.

Flags presnap. False start Jets -5.

Powell for no gain. Makes it 2nd and 15.

McElroy's pass sail inc out in the flat. Brings up 3rd and 15.

Powell dances for about 9 or 10 yards. Jets to go for the FG.

Folk's 40-yarder is good.

Jets 16, Texans 13

Arky 08-15-2011 09:57 PM

Texans bring the kickoff back to their 16. Townsel on the return.

Deep pass to Graham over his head inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Lestar Jean good for nice gainer. 1st down at the Texans 42.

Yates is pressured and throws inc.

Ditto, Yates is pressured and throws inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Graham goes inc. Texans to punt.

Punt is fair caught by the Jets at their 18.

4:46 left in the game.

Arky 08-15-2011 10:01 PM

Jets rush for -1, tackled in the backfield by Dobbins.

QB fumbles the snap, hands off and the Jets lose 1. 3rd and 13 coming up.

'nother sack. Braman and Friday on the sack. Jets to punt.

Townsel brings the punt all the way back to the Jets 38.

3:09 left in the game.

Arky 08-15-2011 10:02 PM

Dump to Oggie picks up about 11.

Deeo pass to Jean good for the TD! Flag on the Jets - TD stands.

Texans 20, Jets 16

Uh oh, play is under review..... did he cross the goal line before the knee was down?

Booo, play is ruled down at the 1/2 yard line...

Texans ball at the 1 foot line. 1st and goal, 2 minute warning.

Arky 08-15-2011 10:09 PM

Oggie runs it in. Touchdown.

Texans 20, Jets 16

Nconroe 08-15-2011 10:10 PM

Jean sure looks loike a good WR and great touchdown. Now a 2 moin defense

Arky 08-15-2011 10:16 PM

Jets bring the kickoff back to about their 23. 1:46 left.

Pass to Kerley gets about 8.

Braman misses the sack and McElroy scrambles for about 5. 1st down.

Pass is caught for short gain - about 3 yards.

Dump over the middle is good for the 1st down. 1:02 left. Ball at the Texan 46.

Deep pass goes inc.

Dump pass goes inc. Brings up 3rd and 10.

Pass over the middle goes for the 1st down - missed tackles by the Texans.... 43 seconds left in the game.

Whoa, deep pass is dropped by the Jets receiver.. 2nd and 10.

QB is sacked/blocked pass..... 21 seconds left.....3rd and 20.

Pass is completed for the 1st down at the Texan 21.

Spike with 5 seconds left. Jets will have one shot at the endzone.

chuck 08-15-2011 10:17 PM

I thought Keo was supposed to be good.

Arky 08-15-2011 10:22 PM

Texans had called a timeout before the play got off.... 5 seconds goes back up on the clock...

McElroy can't find a receiver and runs out of bounds. Clock runs out.

Final score:

Texans 20, Jets 16

Nconroe 08-15-2011 10:24 PM

Well, nice to beat Rex and jets even in preserasom. Lb braham looked pretty good.

Arky 08-15-2011 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nconroe (Post 25860)
Well, nice to beat Rex and jets even in preserasom. Lb braham looked pretty good.

Yes, I'd say surprises-of-the-game were:

Braman LB
Friday LB
Adibi LB
Jean WR
Ogbannaya RB

Did I leave anyone out? Yates wasn't too bad considering his 1st NFL game...

HPF Bob 08-15-2011 10:33 PM

Admit it. You expected the Texans to choke at the end. I know I did. And if that was Santonio Holmes instead of that scrub who had an easy touchdown at the end, the headlines would have read "Same old Texans".

We do seem to have a lot of guys who can rush the passer suddenly and maybe they'll finally get to Peyton Manning but if they leave Dallas Clark as open as the Jets TEs were, it will be the same old story.

Let's see what happens when the starters are left in.

chuck 08-15-2011 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 25862)
Let's see what happens when the starters are left in.

I think we already know.

HPF Bob 08-15-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 25847)
This team's return game is a disgrace.

They sure looked like graduates of the Steve Slaton School of Kick Returning tonight - which is to say "run sideways then duck". Terrible. Where's J.J. Moses? That little dwarf was fearless.

WMH 08-15-2011 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 25862)
Admit it. You expected the Texans to choke at the end. I know I did. And if that was Santonio Holmes instead of that scrub who had an easy touchdown at the end, the headlines would have read "Same old Texans".

We do seem to have a lot of guys who can rush the passer suddenly and maybe they'll finally get to Peyton Manning but if they leave Dallas Clark as open as the Jets TEs were, it will be the same old story.

Let's see what happens when the starters are left in.

True, but if Holmes was in, Joseph would have been in. I'll take that match-up.

1st Preseason game is what it is. A little rusty at times, but decent effort, and some possible diamonds in the rough.

I'm cautiously encouraged by tonights effort.

Arky 08-15-2011 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 25862)
Admit it. You expected the Texans to choke at the end. I know I did. And if that was Santonio Holmes instead of that scrub who had an easy touchdown at the end, the headlines would have read "Same old Texans".

We do seem to have a lot of guys who can rush the passer suddenly and maybe they'll finally get to Peyton Manning but if they leave Dallas Clark as open as the Jets TEs were, it will be the same old story.

Let's see what happens when the starters are left in.

Well, we couldn't wrap up for a few more sacks and they couldn't catch. Sounds about even to me.... :p

chuck 08-16-2011 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HPF Bob (Post 25864)
They sure looked like graduates of the Steve Slaton School of Kick Returning tonight - which is to say "run sideways then duck". Terrible. Where's J.J. Moses? That little dwarf was fearless.

He's about six years retired from the league. And I bet he could improve on the team's return game today. Of course, so could Mel Gray. What I want to know is what the hell is the deal with Trindon Holiday. Is he hurt? I haven't heard anything to that effect. But he didn't play at all that I saw. And among all the fast pass catchers that they have in camp, why Demps?

As a ten year fan of the Texans I can tell you right now that neither Jean nor Braman will make this team. Chris O is seriously on the bubble. If Tate is able to get out of the tub and hobble around on crutches for fifteen minutes or so, forget it.

nunusguy 08-16-2011 06:36 AM

JJ Watt and Brooks Reed both were impressive, but 2 other rookies who impressed very much last night were undrafted -
as ESPNs "Jaws' said, rookie OLB Bryan Braman was relentless and another
URFA, WR Jean, was impressive with his excellent hands & size.
**
I hate to say this, but rookie Shiloh Keo should be cut this morning - what a disappointing NFL debut he had, and Mario should immediately be moved back to the DLine. Wouldn't that be a strong combo, both Mario and Watt at DE, and then let the rookie guys who are real standup 3-4 edge rushers like Brooks & Braman play at OLB along with Barwin.
**
Schaub was really off target, but no big deal. Leinert was OK, but rookie TJ
looked to have a little better arm strength and some limited mobility.
**
The Texans across the Board seemed to have as much talent as the Jets,
who I think have dropped off a bit. Overall I was favorably impressed with our
team.

barrett 08-16-2011 08:00 AM

I came in worried about our OLBs. Now I am impressed with them.

I cannot say the same about our ILBs. Not sure we have the beef there to play a 34 with a 1 gap NT. I am afraid it will be the running game that gouges us this year instead of the passing game.

I am not worried about the offense at all. They can play and nothing that happens in the preseason will affect that at all.

Leinhart looked like a guy who could make an appearance in a game and play fine. But I don't like the idea of him ever starting due to injury. With a week to prepare, defenses will realize he checks everything down and never throws it more than 10 yards in the air.

Watt looked great. Really great. Like homerun draft pick great. Reed is fast and should have value. outside of that I was not real impressed with our defensive draft picks. I did like Yates though. Good mobility and head to run our bootleg offense.

I am really not sure how Braman went undrafted with all the 34 teams and the premium on pass rushers. Great find.

Dickerson had a block on the TD run that was about as nice an inside block as I've seen a WR make. Totally cleaned out the force man on the outside and actually knocked him into the safety who was coming over. That will get him on the field in our offense (if he can catch).

And casey actually looked good as a lead blocker. No missed assignments and didn't get blown up. Competent lead blocking. In a weird turn of events Vickers actually looked better with the ball in his hands though.

popanot 08-16-2011 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuck (Post 25847)
This team's return game is a disgrace.

Aside from Rackers, this team's whole 'Special' Teams is a disaster. I realize it was only a preseason game and can only HOPE they get better, but they've been this way for about 4yrs running now. The return game is awful and the coverage game is awful. I don't think I've think I've ever seen a team where the ST makes so many negative plays. I'm amazed that Marciano has been employed by the team this long.

chuck 08-16-2011 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrett (Post 25869)
Dickerson had a block on the TD run that was about as nice an inside block as I've seen a WR make. Totally cleaned out the force man on the outside and actually knocked him into the safety who was coming over. That will get him on the field in our offense (if he can catch).

I meant to comment on this at the time but got distracted. You're absolutely right, it was a monster block, very impressive. I loved seeing that.

NBT 08-16-2011 02:24 PM

I will tell Chuck right now, that WR Lestar Jean makes the team. It may only be the taxi team for the time being, but that young man is going to be heard from. And in a similar way, so is Oregon Duck Jeff Maehl.

I was right, we did win the game.

JW295 08-17-2011 12:30 PM

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