Draftsite.com 12.13.11
 

31 Bacarri Rambo* S Georgia 6' 1" 208
63 Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington 6' 3" 348
94 DeVier Posey WR Ohio State 6' 2" 200
126 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
158 Carmen Messina ILB New Mexico 6' 2" 222
190 Josh Pleasant CB Kent State 5' 10" 181
221 Dezman Moses DE Tulane 6' 3" 248

OK so they have us in the big game, nice. I see us doing a best player available type draft with the current team. So i might go this way

31 Jared Crick DT Nebraska 6' 6" 285
63 Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M 6' 4" 215
94 Cyrus Gray RB Texas A&M 5' 10" 196
126 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
158 Keenan Robinson ILB Texas 6' 3" 232
190 Lucas Nix OT Pittsburgh 6' 6" 300
221 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295

I know this is heavy with the UT and TAMU guys, and no way do I see it playing out this way. I truly admit at this time I have no clue what way the team will go.

Draftsite 12/17

31 Bacarri Rambo* S Georgia 6' 1" 208
63 Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington 6' 3" 348
94 Nick Toon WR Wisconsin 6' 3" 212
126 Isaiah Pead RB Cincinnati 5' 10" 193
158 Audie Cole ILB North Carolina State 6' 5" 239
190 Brandon Mosley OT Auburn 6' 5"305
221 Cody Johnson FB Texas 5"'11" 250

Not a bad draft, IMO

Don't think we'll make the SB, but oh well...

31 Jared Crick DT/DE Nebraska 6' 6" 285
63 Alameda Ta'amu DT Washington 6' 3" 348
94 Nick Toon WR Wisconsin 6'3" 212
126 Tank Carder OLB TCU 6' 2" 232
158 Brandon Taylor S LSU 6'0" 191
190 Ben Burkett OC Northwestern 6' 4" 300
221 Greg Childs WR Arkansas 6' 3" 217

I could go for either of those drafts. I don't think we need to use a high draft choice on an offensive skill position. I could go for an OL but the ZBS allows us to take quality guys in the middle rounds. Otherwise, it's defense, defense, defense. More big bodies up front. More fast coverage guys and hard hitters in back.

I could see this, but then again I could see us not doing it.

My take:
31 Bacarri Rambo* S Georgia 6' 1" 208
63 Derek Wolfe DT Cincinnati 6' 5" 298
94 Nick Toon WR Wisconsin 6' 3" 212
126 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
158 Audie Cole ILB North Carolina State 6' 5" 239
190 Lucas Nix OG/OT Pittsburgh 6' 6" 300
221 Nelson Rosario WR UCLA 6' 5" 211

Draftsite.com 12.20.11
 

27 Devon Still DT Penn State 6' 5" 311
59 Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma 5' 11" 178
90 Joel Foreman OG Michigan State 6' 4" 304
122 Shaun Prater CB Iowa 5' 11" 172
154 Eddie Pleasant S Oregon 5' 11" 208
186 Rokevious Watkins OT South Carolina 6' 4" 340
217 Dezman Moses DE Tulane 6' 3" 248

Not a bad attempt, but not a great attempt.

Now my not so great attempt. Time to give AJ some help, WR depth.

27 Alshon Jeffery* WR South Carolina 6' 3" 234
59 Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M 6' 4" 215
90 Nick Toon WR Wisconsin 6' 3" 212
122 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295
154 Terrance Ganaway RB/FB Baylor 6' 0" 245
186 Lucas Nix OG/OT Pittsburgh 6' 6" 300
217 James-Michael Johnson ILB Nevada 6' 2" 240

Absolutely not. It would be a total waste to draft three WRs with the first three picks. If I'm not mistaken, AJ and JJ are on multi-year contracts. Not sure Walters' contract status but they are adequate unless you're planning to trade them and you won't get value doing that. One WR out of top three I could accept (although I'd rather build depth at other positions first) but three is pure lunacy.

First off, I glad to know that people do read my mocks. Secondly, I know there is no way that any team would draft 3 WR with the first three picks of the draft. It's hard enough to get one rookie up to playing speed much less three. That said, I wanted to show that in the draftsite mock we could get a stud WR in the 1st, or we could get a good WR in 2nd or 3rd round. At this time there is no way to know how these things will play out, and I did say I was offering up a bad attempt.

Thanks Bob

I watch your posts here PK, but early, thanks for updating guys to watch.

How about in first round - try to dominate both lines
Alameda Ta'amu Washington 6-3 / 337 DT
40 Time: 5.22 40 Low: 5.08 40 High: 5.38
Projected Round: 2 Rated number 3 out of 183 DT's

maybe in second - lotta big receivers so maybe need some big DB's?
Ray Ray Armstrong Miami 6-4 216 SS / FS
40 Time: 4.54 40 Low: 4.44 40 High: 4.65
Rated number 1 out of 93 SS's

I understood that you were saying that the team could draft an excellent prospect at receiver in any number of positions. And I think you're right. And they probably should. I was thinking a Steve Smith type initially like the Broyles kid from Oklahoma but lately I'm thinking the team might literally need a replacement for AJ. Not that AJ won't continue to play but I think the team needs most another big, fast, physical receiver with good hands. As much as I'd like to see the team loiter around until the second or the third to find one and as much as I want defensive secondary in the first I could be convinced to look for a receiver there also if the right guy came up.

But I think we can all agree that we'd be much happier if we could simply get back to gratuitously bashing Mexicans.

PK, I too appreciate you doing the Mocks. I just think this next Draft will finally be BPA (if we don't trade up), and they will try to emphasize the Oline, and WR.

How about me trying to do a good attempt?

27 Alshon Jeffery* WR South Carolina 6' 3" 234
59 Mike Brewster OC Ohio State 6' 5" 293
90 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
122 Aaron Henry S Wisconsin 6' 0" 210
154 Micah Pellerin CB Hampton 6' 0" 187
186 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295
217 Jacquies Smith DE Missouri 6' 4" 255

I'd really rather go Tackle than Guard if we are going to use an early pick on an OL. Winston just isn't a Tackle to me. And Duane Brown definitely seems like a guy who could play either side. I say take the best Tackle in our first two picks and slide Winston in and flip Brown if need be. And Briesel is out the door.

I am still weary about a round 1 WR. The #2 WR in our offense has to do a lot of blocking and gets inconsistent targets (unless AJ goes down). And GMs tend to want to see draft picks justified (just like Rick Smith still wants Jackson on the field). I'd much rather see a round 2 or 3 WR so we don't have to take the ball away from Foster 5-7 times a game to get it to our new toy (like Dallas or Atlanta who look worse with very good 1st round WRs because they run less).

Let me try it this way.

27 Mike Adams OT Ohio State 6' 7" 300
59 Jeff Fuller WR Texas A&M 6' 4" 215
90 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
122 Aaron Henry S Wisconsin 6' 0" 210
154 Micah Pellerin CB Hampton 6' 0" 187
186 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295
217 Jacquies Smith DE Missouri 6' 4" 255

Most of the OTs rated in the late 1st and later will be RT at the next level in this draft. I will wait until the Senior Bowl to get a good read on Adams. Brown has been solid on the left side IMO, but Winston is still slow footed.

Looks great, but honestly who knows. If the organization has any long term health concerns for AJ my thinking goes out the window. But if AJ is still AJ for a few years I think I like the 2nd or 3rd round route. Especially since either our GM or our Coach forces early round picks whether they perform or not.

Draftsite.com 12.27.11
 

25 Alshon Jeffery* WR South Carolina 6' 3" 234
57 Markelle Martin S Oklahoma State 6' 1" 198
88 Marcus Forston* DT Miami 6' 3" 305
120 Joe Looney OG Wake Forest 6' 3" 298
152 Matt Conrath DE Virginia 6' 7" 270
184 Steven Johnson OLB Kansas 6' 1" 237
216 Alfred Morris RB Florida Atlantic 5' 11" 222

I will not argue the 1st two picks, but the 3rd pick does not seem to be the type guy the Texans target. He was good as a sophomore then was suspended and then played poorly before and injury ended his junior year.

Yeah, and I remember a lot of you soothsayers saying you didn't think much of DE Aldon Smith who was taken by SF, and now has 14 sacks. :eek:!

I'm very happy with Watts playing every down at DE. Aldon Smith is a 3rd down specialist that is having a solid year.

I may have missed on him, but again I would rather have what Watts gives us over what Smith would have given us.

25 Alshon Jeffery* WR South Carolina 6' 3" 234
57 Markelle Martin S Oklahoma State 6' 1" 198
88 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
120 Keenan Robinson ILB Texas 6' 3" 232
152 Brandon Taylor S LSU 6' 0" 191
184 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295
216 Josh Oglesby OT Wisconsin 6' 7" 330

Draftsite.com 1.06.12
 

25 Bacarri Rambo* S Georgia 6' 1" 208
57 Vinny Curry DE Marshall 6' 5" 242
88 Andrew Datko OT Florida State 6' 6" 283
120 T.Y. Hilton WR Florida International 5' 10" 175
152 Joe Adams WR Arkansas 5' 11" 182
184 G.J. Kinne QB Tulsa 6' 2" 215
215 Kyle Martens PT Rice 6' 6" 200


Just so you guys can see some different names:

25 Jayron Hosley* CB Virginia Tech 5' 11" 170
57 Zebrie Sanders OT Florida State 6' 5" 288
88 Nick Toon WR Wisconsin 6' 3" 212
or Mike Martin DT Michigan 6' 2" 299
or William Vlachos OC Alabama 6' 1" 292
120 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
152 Ryan Miller OG Colorado 6' 8" 320
184 Harrison Smith S Notre Dame 6' 2" 212
215 Jarrett Boykin WR Virginia Tech 6' 2" 215

This is not how I see them drafting nor how I would draft it, just an alternative at each pick. The way this mock falls we can get very good guys for the trenches all the way through the draft.

WalterFootball mock 1.05.12
 

26 Houston Texans: Mohamed Sanu, WR, Rutgers
I asked this question in my 2013 NFL Mock Draft: How long is Gary Kubiak going to make us fantasy football owners suffer through Kevin Walter and Jacoby Jones? The Texans really need an upgrade across from Andre Johnson.

I'll admit that this is a reach, but nothing else really makes sense at this juncture. Besides, the Texans have reached to fill needs before, so I think it's possible that they could consider Mohamed Sanu if the 2012 NFL Draft unfolds this way.

Pick change; previously Kendall Wright, WR/KR

58 Houston Texans: Josh Chapman, NT, Alabama
I really like this pick for the Texans. They need help at nose tackle, and Wade Phillips prefers smaller players at the position. Plus, Houston has seemed to favor prospects out of the southeast in recent drafts.

89 Houston Texans: Michael Brewster, C, Ohio State
Chris Myers has been one of the best centers in football this year. However, Myers will be a free agent this offseason along with Mario Williams and Arian Foster. Can the Texans afford to sign all three players to massive contracts? Because there's no way they're letting Williams and Foster go.

121 Houston Texans: Trevor Guyton, DE/DT, California
The Texans will be a little thin up front if five-tech Tim Bulman leaves via free agency. (Really? Has he watched this team play even one game?)

My cherry pick

26 Mark Barron, SS, Alabama
58 Dwight Jones, WR, North Carolina
89 Kheeston Randall, DE/DT, Texas
121 ?

Draftsite.com 1.10.12
 

27 Dontari Poe* DT Memphis 6' 5" 350
59 Rueben Randle* WR LSU 6' 3" 201
90 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
122 Keenan Robinson ILB Texas 6' 3" 232
154 Matt McCants OT Alabama, Birmingham 6' 7" 295
186 Tysyn Hartman CB Kansas State 6' 3" 206
217 Chris Rainey RB Florida 5' 9" 174

I think they have been reading some of my cherry picks, here is my take for BPA, might not line up with our needs.

27 Jayron Hosley* CB Virginia Tech 5' 11" 170
*54 Brandon Boykin CB/PR Georgia 5' 10" 185
90 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
*122 traded with #59 to move up for Boykin
154 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295
186 Chris Galippo ILB USC 6' 2" 250
217 Jarrett Boykin WR Virginia Tech 6' 2" 215

Draftsite.com 1.17.12
 

27 Melvin Ingram DT South Carolina 6' 2" 264
58 Rueben Randle* WR LSU 6' 3" 201
89 Mike Brewster OC Ohio State 6' 5" 293
121 Aaron Henry S Wisconsin 6' 0" 210
153 Bobby Wagner ILB Utah State 6' 1" 230
184 Josh Oglesby OT Wisconsin 6' 7" 330
216 Jeremy Ebert WR Northwestern 6' 0" 195

I like the positions taken, but do not agree with the order.

27 Peter Konz* OC Wisconsin 6' 5" 315
58 Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
89 Nick Toon WR Wisconsin 6' 3" 212
121 Aaron Henry S Wisconsin 6' 0" 210
153 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295
184 Josh Oglesby OT Wisconsin 6' 7" 330
216 Jarrett Boykin WR Virginia Tech 6' 2" 215

OK so this one has to many Wisconsin boys in it, but I would be very happy to grab one out of Konz or Zeitler. Konz is the best OC in the draft, and we may loose Meyers.

Randle is coming back.

Know where there is a list of the guys that have declared?

Never mind I found a list:

http://www.gbnreport.com/juniors.htm

And according to that list Randle has declared.

Scratch that. I got him and Russell Shepard mixed up.

Draftsite.com 1.24.12
 

26 Dontari Poe* DT Memphis 6' 5" 350
58 Rueben Randle* WR LSU 6' 3" 201
89 Mike Brewster OC Ohio State 6' 5" 293
121 Harrison Smith S Notre Dame 6' 2" 212
153 Joel Foreman OG Michigan State 6' 4" 304
184 Tyrone Crawford DE Boise State 6' 4" 275
216 Miles Burris ILB San Diego State 6' 3" 240

I have a hard time talking a NT in the 1st, that position only plays in about 40% of the downs, if that. Not sure that is the biggest need at that pick.

My take?

26 Peter Konz* OC Wisconsin 6' 5" 315 or
58 Brandon Boykin CB Georgia 5' 10" 185
89 Aaron Henry S Wisconsin 6' 0" 210
121 Mike Martin DT Michigan 6' 2" 299
153 Vick Ballard RB Mississippi State 5' 11" 215
184 Kheeston Randall DT Texas 6' 5" 295
216 Lucas Nix OG/OT Pittsburgh 6' 6" 300

Meyers should be resigned, and it might be time to start getting his replacement ready and this junior is the top OC in college this year, we are finally at the spot that the 1st pick might have to sit a while.

If NT is not a need, why are you taking two DT?

An impact NT like Ngata is certainly worth the money. Where we are drafting, I'm not sure one will be there who is worth it but I'm fine with a true run-stuffer for short yardage situations. It might also be cool to find one who would like to try some lead blocking in short yardage as well.

I'm still for upgrading the secondary first then wide receiver but I would not be too upset if they go NT first.

I did not say that NT was not a need position, only that I did not want to go 1st round on a NT, even at the 26th pick of the 1st round.

One of the DT in my mock is more of a 3-4 DE, IMO, and the Michigan guy is a high motor guy like Mitchell, Watt and Reed, who, again IMO, can be a part of the NT rotation and possible DE rotation. Plus both of these guys were BPA when I took them.

Now if Poe, who I admit I have not seen on tape, is on Wade's list of wants then I will not complain.

BTW I still believe the needs are WR1b, OL depth, DBs if BPA, ILB depth, and I would add DL depth, and RB depth if Ward is cut. In my mocks, I try to go BPA at the slot we pick. I have decided in round 2 on up I can go up to the 5 previous picks and cherry pick a guy, why because I wanted Boykin to return punts in the 2nd.

And if you really want to know I originally took Kendall Wright as a "b" choice for round 1 because he is a game changer and he can fly, and he might be able to return kicks.

We are very early in this process, and I still want to watch the Senior Bowl practices and catch up on last weekends East West game. (DVR). So I am in no way writing my picks in ink just yet. Some of these guys will not be on my final list of possible picks.

I missed it and I want to change my 1st pick to

26 Jerel Worthy* DT Michigan State 6' 3" 292

He is similar to Watt IMO and he can be the replacement to Smith when his contract is up.

That would mean that the entire draft would change for me. So here is a 2nd attempt at it.

26 Jerel Worthy* DE Michigan State 6' 3" 292
58 Nick Toon WR Wisconsin 6' 3" 212
89 Kendall Reyes NT/DE Connecticut 6' 4" 295 (this one's for Bob + he's a team captain)
121 Jerry Franklin ILB Arkansas 6' 1" 241
153 Josh Norman CB Coastal Carolina 6' 2" 190
184 Jarrett Boykin WR Virginia Tech 6' 2" 215
216 Lucas Nix OG/OT Pittsburgh 6' 6" 300

Different take on the same draft, I'm sure all of us on this site can do a different cherry pick and have a reasonable justification for the picks.

My Take:

26. Stephon Gilmore* CB South Carolina 6' 1" 188
58. Kevin Zeitler OG Wisconsin 6' 4" 315
89. Marvin McNutt WR Iowa 6' 4" 215
121. Derek Wolfe DT Cincinnati 6' 5" 298
153. Joe Adams WR Arkansas 5' 11" 182
184. Austin Davis QB Southern Miss 6' 2" 208
216. Cody Johnson FB Texas 5' 11" 250

The only defensive player I'm interested in right now in the Draft would be CB because I'm begining to wonder if Kareem Jackson will ever learn to watch the WR's eyes and turn his head for the int.

Why the preoccupation with DT & NT? We may need one in the future, but didn't we just finish like 4th against the run last year?

Start talking more WR & OL and I will listen better.

In other recent draft news/rumors, this little snipet from walterfootball.com:

26. Houston Texans: Peter Konz, C, Wisconsin
The Texans want to draft a receiver in the first round, but they may change their minds if Peter Konz is available. We've reported that the front office believes some team will outbid for Myers in free agency, so Houston will probably have a big need at the center position. In that case, Konz will be too difficult to pass up.



I would assume the Raiders with G. Knapp now their OC, but wouldn't rule out the Colts and Redskins. Myers playing in the ProBowl during a contract year could come back to bite us in the end.:rolleyes:

WalterFootball mock 2.01.12
 

To take this mock further:

58 Houston Texans: Josh Chapman, NT, Alabama
I really like this pick for the Texans. They need help at nose tackle, and Wade Phillips prefers smaller players at the position. Plus, Houston has seemed to favor prospects out of the southeast in recent drafts. Josh Chapman is one of the top players available.

89 Houston Texans: Tommy Streeter, WR, Miami
It shouldn't shock anyone if the Texans decide to double up on receivers in the first few rounds. That is position is their No. 1 need by far.

121 Houston Texans: Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa
Another receiver. The Texans are going to make upgrading a position a priority this offseason.

My take is that I do not see Meyers as a hard sign, only the Redskins employ the same type running scheme, Knapp came from a different coaching tree of the WCO and I do not believe he is married to the Shanahan/Kubiak running game. I am betting that Knapp will use a power running game similar to the one he used last time he was in Oakland.

As for multiple WR, we have Lestar Jean coming back to camp next year, he might be a big surprise for us.

I love the pick of Konz, I also would love getting Jeffery, so I have no clue what they do.

In the 2nd. I love Martin from Michigan for the NT or Brandon Boykin, CB, Georgia who has played both ways for the Bulldogs and is a top return guy.

AT 89, I would be ok with the Streeter pick or the guy selected next, Keenan Robinson, OLB, Texas, who I see as an ILB in our system. I also would have to look hard at Zeitler one of the best OG in the draft.

As for the last pick here, McNutt is solid and I like Dwight Jones also. I would have to look hard at Kheeston Randall, DE/DT, Texas who I see as a good solid fit for our DE, Smith is in the final year of his contract after all

While I do look for a WR upgrade early in the draft, I'm not sure it's our #1 priority and, certainly, if we are going o-line, d-line with our first two picks, then it really wasn't a huge priority. I still want to see the secondary upgraded, whether through free agency or the draft. Joseph/Manning were a huge upgrade but Allen is a free agent and Jackson/Quin still make me nervous.

The two guys at CBS Sports.com both have us taking WR at #27, not the big NT Poe as before. Kunz is taken by the Ravens a few choices further down in both mocks.

I thought Quinn was very good this year. His coverage ability in the slot gave us versatility and he was one of our surest tacklers.

Everyone in the secondary is good except Jackson. Everyone in the secondary could realistically be upgraded in the draft except Joseph.

I would replace Manning before Quinn. Manning is better as a centerfield type when facing the QB, but Quinn was very good in coverage on TEs and RBs. And he was a great tackler in run support and the open field. So unless we are looking to replace both safeties, I feel like Quinn is perfect where he is.

As long as it took this staff to get serious about the S position and considering the poor play of years past, I'm fairly certain they're satisfied with the production we got last year and S is a loooooow priority in this draft.

That's my read as well. I would love for the team to try to get better at corner through the draft but I believe that they think they have a lot of depth at the position with Harris and Carmichael yet to contribute.

I was just looking over the team's draft history. Holy shit was Casserly terrible.