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chuck 09-03-2011 04:33 PM

I am very, very surprised that the team kept Slaton over Chris O both for cap reasons and performance reasons.

I am encouraged, though, at their optimism in waiving their only punter.

Warren 09-03-2011 04:33 PM

The Giants are reportedly keeping punter Steve Weatherford and looking to deal Matt Dodge if they can get something for him, so that's one situation to watch.

Joe Joe 09-03-2011 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chuck (Post 26233)
I am very, very surprised that the team kept Slaton over Chris O both for cap reasons and performance reasons.

I am encouraged, though, at their optimism in waiving their only punter.

Slaton is not enough of a cap hit to worry about. Unless there is some great player out there that the 700k or whatever the extra for Slaton makes over Chris O, cap isn't an issue for this season.

Performance? Slaton is the same age as Chris O. Chris O. has 69 total yards in two seasons. Chris O. can't even average 4 yards per carry through preseason. A guy that can't even get 100 yards in two seasons is a better player than Slaton? Some major injury problems won't make me give up on a guy that was the 6th best runner his rookie year in favor of a guy of the same age that has only 69 yards to his name in two seasons.

barrett 09-03-2011 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Joe (Post 26236)
Slaton is not enough of a cap hit to worry about. Unless there is some great player out there that the 700k or whatever the extra for Slaton makes over Chris O, cap isn't an issue for this season.

Performance? Slaton is the same age as Chris O. Chris O. has 69 total yards in two seasons. Chris O. can't even average 4 yards per carry through preseason. A guy that can't even get 100 yards in two seasons is a better player than Slaton? Some major injury problems won't make me give up on a guy that was the 6th best runner his rookie year in favor of a guy of the same age that has only 69 yards to his name in two seasons.

Steve? Is that you? welcome to the board.

But seriously, going on performance in this decade it's edge ogbonoya.

painekiller 09-03-2011 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett (Post 26237)
Steve? Is that you? welcome to the board.

But seriously, going on performance in this decade it's edge ogbonoya.

Have you seen any practices? I did and Slaton looked like he was back to his old self at practice. Then he strained the hammy.

I also watched Chris O at practice. He is a solid practice squad guy. He is not as quick through the hole when he was against the 2s. When he played against the the guys that are now on the street he looked decent. He is not ahead of Slaton right now based on talent and knowledge of the playbook. Slaton is worth a flyer on while Foster is on the shelf.

barrett 09-03-2011 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by painekiller (Post 26238)
Have you seen any practices? I did and Slaton looked like he was back to his old self at practice. Then he strained the hammy.

I also watched Chris O at practice. He is a solid practice squad guy. He is not as quick through the hole when he was against the 2s. When he played against the the guys that are now on the street he looked decent. He is not ahead of Slaton right now based on talent and knowledge of the playbook. Slaton is worth a flyer on while Foster is on the shelf.

I'll take your word on practices. But part of playing in the NFL is playing. The hammy is the latest in years without being healthy. But I hope he proves me completely wrong. I'd love to see the old slaton.

WMH 09-03-2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett (Post 26239)
I'll take your word on practices. But part of playing in the NFL is playing. The hammy is the latest in years without being healthy. But I hope he proves me completely wrong. I'd love to see the old slaton.

Either way, there's no way this guy sees the field, unless Foster is out, Ward goes down, and then Tate goes down. While Slaton may have shown "flashes" in camp, who's he gonna take carries away from? That's my biggest problem with keeping him. Just a plain ole "Why?".
He doesn't seem to serve a purpose to me at all.

WMH 09-03-2011 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe Joe (Post 26236)
Slaton is not enough of a cap hit to worry about. Unless there is some great player out there that the 700k or whatever the extra for Slaton makes over Chris O, cap isn't an issue for this season.

When you are up against the cap, $2.2MM at the last report, $700k is a very big deal, especially for a guy the will only see the field if three other very bad things happen.

nunusguy 09-04-2011 08:33 AM

The concern I have about releasing Chris O. is that while he might be the least talented of the whole RB-crew, he is the only one who's remained healthy/uninjured thru all of TC if I'm not mistaken ? And that should be worth something ?
And on the subject of injuries, I'd bet right now that Foster dosen't play 9/11 because I suspect if he has a third "event" this soon with his hammy it's going to be a really long reovery period ?

Joe Joe 09-04-2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by barrett (Post 26237)
Steve? Is that you? welcome to the board.

But seriously, going on performance in this decade it's edge ogbonoya.

Ummm....He has zero performance in the regular season from this decade.

Joe Joe 09-04-2011 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nunusguy (Post 26243)
The concern I have about releasing Chris O. is that while he might be the least talented of the whole RB-crew, he is the only one who's remained healthy/uninjured thru all of TC if I'm not mistaken ? And that should be worth something ?
And on the subject of injuries, I'd bet right now that Foster dosen't play 9/11 because I suspect if he has a third "event" this soon with his hammy it's going to be a really long reovery period ?

Only reason to keep Chris O over Slaton would be enough injury concerns with 1st three running backs.

WMH 09-04-2011 04:42 PM

Saw some tweets from Jabba on the PS:

Key members of practice squad: S Shiloh Keo, WR Trindon Holliday, RB Chris Ogbonnaya, WR Jeff Maehl, G Andrew Gardner, LB Mister Alexander.

C Howard Barbieri also on practice squad.

Also, they claimed a G from the Pats, so someone is about to go:

Texans claimed G Thomas Austin on waivers from Pats. He gives them inside depth. They lost 2 backup guards for season.

Texans re-signed P Brett Hartmann to replace Brad Maynard. To make room on the roster, they waived OLB Jesse Nading.

painekiller 09-04-2011 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH (Post 26251)
Saw some tweets from Jabba on the PS:

Key members of practice squad: S Shiloh Keo, WR Trindon Holliday, RB Chris Ogbonnaya, WR Jeff Maehl, G Andrew Gardner, LB Mister Alexander.

C Howard Barbieri also on practice squad.

Also, they claimed a G from the Pats, so someone is about to go:

Texans claimed G Thomas Austin on waivers from Pats. He gives them inside depth. They lost 2 backup guards for season.

IMO the interesting thing here is the signings of Maehl and the two UDFA WR placed on IR. That is three guys being red shirted.

Also they kept punt returning back up Holliday, who looked solid as a punt returner the other night. Nice insurance there. Gives him a longer look, if he stays in the tub any longer he is cut.

Ogbonnaya is exactly where I thought he would be after a week of training camp, he is only valuable as an emergency guy. He does not have NFL quickness, but he can play if we have a few RBs go down.

Shocked we have not signed a punter yet or David Anderson.

nunusguy 09-04-2011 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WMH (Post 26251)

Texans re-signed P Brett Hartmann to replace Brad Maynard. To make room on the roster, they waived OLB Jesse Nading.

They kept Braman and released Nading. Kinda surprising ? Not that I disagree with their judgement because Bramans the one with the potential IMO ?

Arky 09-04-2011 09:46 PM

Hooo boy, I thought Bulman might've been on the bubble... Turns out it was Nading....

Colorado State players are dropping like flies. Just two left on the active roster - Brisiel and Dreessen.


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