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Roy P

01-05-2010, 06:41 PM

The list may grow and it may shrink. I'm just throwing it out here early. As more is known about which underclassmen are going to declare or return, the better the list will look. For your amusement....

1 DT Ndamukong Suh 6'4" 302 Nebraska
2 S *Eric Berry 5'11" 203 Tennessee
3 DT *Gerald McCoy 6'4" 295 Oklahoma
4 CB *Joe Haden 5'11" 190 Florida
5 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 Missouri
6 LB *Rolando McClain 6'4" 245 Alabama
7 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 Florida St
8 RB *Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 235 Georgia Tech
9 RB CJ Spiller 5'11" 195 Clemson
10 OT Russell Okung 6'6" 305 Oklahoma St
11 DE *Derrick Morgan 6'4" 265 Georgia Tech
12 OG Mike Iupati 6'5" 330 Idaho
13 WR *Dez Bryant 6'2" 210 Oklahoma St
14 WR Brandon LaFell 6'3" 206 LSU
15 LB Brandon Spikes 6'3" 256 Florida
16 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 305 Tennessee
17 LB Sergio Kindle 6'4" 242 Texas
18 LB Ricky Sapp 6'4" 250 Clemson
19 WR Golden Tate 5'11" 195 Notre Dame
20 LB Eric Norwood 6'0" 252 South Carolina
21 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 Boise St
22 OT Kyle Calloway 6'7" 318 Iowa
23 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 Wake Forest
24 LB Roddrick Muckelroy 6'2" 235 Texas
25 CB Javier Arenas 5'9" 198 Alabama
26 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 188 Rutgers
27 LB Daryl Washington 6'2" 224 TCU
28 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 Stanford
29 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 Kansas
30 RB Charles Scott 5'11" 234 LSU
31 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 Tennessee
32 CB Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 Vanderbilt
33 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 Illinois
34 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 Mississippi St
35 WR Danario Alexander 6'4" 210 Missouri
36 OG Mike Johnson 6'5" 305 Alabama
37 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 Iowa
38 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 Iowa
39 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 Auburn
40 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 Central Michigan
41 LB O'Brien Schofield 6'2" 250 Wisconsin
42 DT Vince Oghobaase 6'6" 302 Duke
43 LB Darryl Sharpton 5'11" 235 Miami
44 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 Utah
45 DT Boo Robinson 6'1" 305 Wake Forest
46 CB Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 Oklahoma
47 RB Chris Brown 5'11" 210 Oklahoma
48 OC Ted Larsen 6'2" 300 North Carolina St
49 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 Kentucky

gunn

01-05-2010, 09:48 PM

I'm willing to bet that Dan Williams doesn't exactly remember when the last time he weighed 305 lbs.

Roy P

01-05-2010, 10:37 PM

Yeah, while I'm at it I thought I'd put together my list of Free Agents by priority. Guys at the top of the list would make more money or at least I would offer them more money. I get DeMeco locked up first before going out on the market. When it comes to O.D. I compare him to Ben Watson and Tony Scheffler and try to find the best bargain.

1 DeMeco Ryans, Houston Texans (26)
2 Richard Seymour, Oakland Raiders (30)
3 Derrick Johnson, Kansas City Chiefs (27)
4 Nick Collins, Green Bay Packers (27)
5 Antoine Bethea, Indianapolis Colts (26)
6 Logan Mankins, New England Patriots (28)
7 Barry Cofield, New York Giants (26)
8 Cadillac Williams, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (28)
9 Ben Watson, New England Patriots (29)
10 Daryn Colledge, Green Bay Packers (28)
11 Mark Clayton, Baltimore Ravens (28)
12 Owen Daniels, Houston Texans (27)
13 Tony Scheffler, Denver Broncos (27)
14 David Baas, San Francisco 49ers (28)
15 Mark Anderson, Chicago Bears (27)
16 Richard Marshall, Carolina Panthers (25)
17 Carlos Rogers, Washington Redskins (29)
18 Chester Pitts, Houston Texans (31)
19 Darryl Tapp, Seattle Seahawks (25)
20 Jerious Norwood, Atlanta Falcons (27)
21 Jerome Harrison, Cleveland Browns (27)
22 Jason Avant, Philadelphia Eagles (27)
23 Chris Kuper, Denver Broncos (27)
24 Marshal Yanda, Baltimore Ravens (25)
25 Alex Smith, New England Patriots (28)
26 Danieal Manning, Chicago Bears (28)
27 Chris Spencer, Seattle Seahawks (28)
28 Adam Terry, Baltimore Ravens (28)
29 David Clowney, New York Jets (25)
30 Josh Bullocks, Chicago Bears (27)

HPF Bob

01-05-2010, 11:52 PM

Just what we need - another Chris Brown! :eek:

mussop

01-06-2010, 12:52 AM

NBT

01-06-2010, 07:46 PM

O.D., Ryans, & Pitts aren't going anywhere. dRob now..........?

nero THE zero

01-08-2010, 09:56 AM

I'm seeing lots of love for Seymour as a FA. He's a good player, I guess I'm just not understanding where he'd play. He's essentially a better Antonio Smith. So, we could bump one of those guys down to 3-tech, but then what do we do with Okoye? I'd have no problem cutting him, myself. But, we know that's not a realistic possibility.

I just don't see a fit there.

Roy P

01-08-2010, 11:57 AM

I'm going over a couple of scenarios very EARLY. It's always fun to see who I mock select in the 6th round getting picked on draft day in the 2nd. Here's two such mocks...

1. WLB Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri
2. RB Ryan Mathews, Fresno State
3. FS Myron Lewis, Vanderbilt
4. CB Syd'Quan Thompson, California
5a. OG Thomas Austin, Clemson
5b. CB Alterraun Verner, UCLA
6. DT Nate Collins, Virginia
7. DT Kade Weston, Georgia

1. FS Earl Thomas**, Texas
2. RB Ryan Mathews, Fresno State
3. CB Syd'Quan Thompson, California
4. CB Alterraun Verner, UCLA
5a. OG Thomas Austin, Clemson
5b. OG Jon Asamoah, Illinois
6. DT Nate Collins, Virginia
7. DT Torrell Troup, Central Florida

Has Earl Thomas declared?

barrett

01-08-2010, 01:02 PM

With LBs that can tackle and a SS like Pollard, Earl Thomas would be a good fit here since there would be plenty of back 7 help covering up his slight deficiencies in the run game. And I'd love to have a FS with ball skills (note this is assuming we bring back Pollard).

texan

01-08-2010, 02:08 PM

If Thomas declares, and he's there at our pick, that's the guy I want.

Roy, I can't see us taking a LB in the first, we've got much bigger needs that need to be filled.

barrett

01-08-2010, 02:33 PM

painekiller

01-08-2010, 02:39 PM

It would be very tough to go LB in the first due to the fact that Cushing stays on the field on 3rd down and does a great job of it. That means if you draft a great WLB you are removing Ryans or Cushing on 3rd down (the WLB's biggest down) and because of that it is a limited impact.

I would hope secondary, but I would be ok with OL, RB, WR, or DL in that order also.

OK if we take Weatherspoon that would be 3 guys that can all stay on the field. The team can rotate the coverages, and blitzes. All three guys can play all three positions, not a bad thing, what if Ryans went down? With Weatherspoon and Cushing, you are OK in coverage.

I want to have a super group, either at LB or on the DL. I don't care where.

nunusguy

01-08-2010, 03:02 PM

Weatherspoon would be a solid pick so long as he can cover the likes of Reggie Wayne on a deep post or fly-pattern, otherwise if he can't impersonate a CB lets make that position top-priority in the first round if we go D. But for a player that would be off the field in nickel packages, Cody or another big run-stopping DT seems to make more sense ?

barrett

01-08-2010, 03:07 PM

OK if we take Weatherspoon that would be 3 guys that can all stay on the field. The team can rotate the coverages, and blitzes. All three guys can play all three positions, not a bad thing, what if Ryans went down? With Weatherspoon and Cushing, you are OK in coverage.

I want to have a super group, either at LB or on the DL. I don't care where.

So you want to draft another LB and keep all 3 on the field at once on 3rd downs?

HPF Bob

01-08-2010, 03:30 PM

FYI - In Rob Rang's most recent mock, he has us taking RB Jahvid Best. Another mock on CBS has us taking CB Patrick Robinson of Florida St.

I guess Best would be drafted on the "Best Available" theory. ;)

painekiller

01-08-2010, 03:51 PM

So you want to draft another LB and keep all 3 on the field at once on 3rd downs?

Old School baby. Thank old Steelers Russel, Lambert and Hamm.

Any one of the LBs can cover a TE or a RB.

Three WRs? You pull one of the LBs, but which one?

barrett

01-08-2010, 04:56 PM

That's my point. 3rd down is a 3 WR down in the NFL. Actually, for some teams 1st and 2nd down are 3 WR downs. It's a passing league.

That is why I didn't like taking Cushing at first. Because in the NFL only two of your LBs play more than half the snaps and I wrongly assumed that as a SLB, Cushing would be the type to come out in those situations. Obviously he is not.

So, with what we have at LB already, drafting Witherspoon would mean that either our first round pick, or one of our two pro bowl LBs would be playing less than half the snaps. Its' just not going to happen.

If we go LB at all I would suspect it is a late rounder to back up Demeco. Do you guys have eyes on anyone who fits that billing (6th or 7th round plugger who is long on instincts but likely appears short on athleticism).

Roy P

01-08-2010, 10:09 PM

Actually, for some teams 1st and 2nd down are 3 WR downs. It's a passing league.

So, with what we have at LB already, drafting Witherspoon would mean that either our first round pick, or one of our two pro bowl LBs would be playing less than half the snaps. Its' just not going to happen.

If we go LB at all I would suspect it is a late rounder to back up Demeco. Do you guys have eyes on anyone who fits that billing (6th or 7th round plugger who is long on instincts but likely appears short on athleticism).

First, we don't have to take a LB off the field in Nickle packages. In fact, most of the time when we saw a passing situation, one of the D-Lineman would come off the field and we'd rush only 3. So, a 3-3-5 look isn't out of the question.

Secondly, just because you draft a player in the first round doesn't mean you will get a 1st round talent. If we had this team and were going into the 2004 draft, I'd rather select D.J. Williams than to select Ahmad Carroll. I'm also considering the possibility of getting a player like Nathan Vasher later in the draft to meet my need at the CB position.

Lastly, if you are merely looking for a player to be DeMeco's backup in the 6th round, might I suggest

Josh Hull, Penn State
Height: 6-3. Weight: 240.
Projected 40 Time: 4.77.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/565760

Boris Lee, Troy
Height: 6-0. Weight: 245.
Projected 40 Time: 4.76.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1128971

Ryan D'Imperio, Rutgers
Height: 6-3. Weight: 245.
Projected 40 Time: 4.80.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1115023

Roy P

01-08-2010, 10:11 PM

So you want to draft another LB and keep all 3 on the field at once on 3rd downs?

Yes. I'll also have the offense guess which one is coming on the blitz too.

painekiller

01-09-2010, 12:07 AM

Yes. I'll also have the offense guess which one is coming on the blitz too.

Roy and I agree on this one. Cushing was the best coverage LB in the NFL, stats bear that out, and Weatherspoon is considered a top cover guy. Funny thing is both of these guys can also rush the passer. Now, let the QB guess which guy is hot and which guy is laying back.

barrett

01-09-2010, 01:01 AM

It doesn't matter if they are top cover LBs. They still can't cover like a slot receiver, which is what one of them would have to do to make it plausible to have all 3 on the field in passing downs.

Look around the NFL and you'll see that no 4-3 team is playing 3 LBs on 3rd down. Most aren't even playing two. And it's not because nobody has come up with the inovation yet, it's because the forward pass was invented and it stopped being useful to have 3 LBs on the field at once on passing downs. Especially since a 3-3-5 is going to slide Mario in and make it tougher for him to rush the passer. A 3-3-5 on 3rd down also makes Connor Barwin useless. And I doubt the GM is looking to draft players that make his 2nd round pick from last year irrelevant.

Honestly there are too many logical reasons to list for why we won't go LB in round 1 in a million years.

But I don't need to argue this one. You guys can draft as many LBs as you want for your offseason defense. I don't have to agree with your X's and O's to appreciate the great work you do researching draft prospects.

So I'll just focus on your guys at OL, DT, FS, CB, RB, WR.

Roy P

01-09-2010, 12:03 PM

I don't have to agree with your X's and O's to appreciate the great work you do researching draft prospects.

So I'll just focus on your guys at OL, DT, FS, CB, RB, WR.

Focusing on DT position, I'd consider not only "upgrading" Shaun Cody at the NT position, but I'm also wanting to replace Jeff Zgonina. Deljuan Robinson and Frank Okam could use some competition, in my opinion. Therefore, I would not be hesitant to draft 2 DTs in this draft. Preferrably, a NT and a 3-Tech (one of each). I'm not in a hurry to spend a TOP pick on this "need" as we have seen, just b/c we used a first round pick on a DT (T.J. & A.O.), there's not guarantee that the produce immediately. So, the guys I'm targeting....

NT:
Jay Ross, East Carolina
Height: 6-3. Weight: 314.
Projected 40 Time: 5.14.
Projected Round (2009): 3-4.
11/28/09: Has 35 tackles, three TFL, 1.5 sacks and a 49-yard fumble return for a touchdown. Jay Ross didn't look too bad running that one back on national TV.
2/14/09: Once again an All-Conference USA honorable mention, Jay Ross accumulated 48 tackles, 9.5 TFL and 4.5 sacks.

Ekom Udofia, Stanford
Height: 6-2. Weight: 315.
Projected 40 Time: 5.12.
Projected Round (2009): 4-5.
11/28/09: Hobbled by an ankle injury this year, Ekom Udofia has 34 tackles and 1.5 TFL in 11 games. Should be a solid reserve nose tackle in the NFL.

Cam Thomas, North Carolina
Height: 6-3. Weight: 328.
Projected 40 Time: 5.18
Projected Round (2009): 5-6
12/31/08: Finished season with 34 tackles, 3.5 TFL, and one sack in 13 games.

Torrell Troup, Central Florida
Height: 6-3. Weight: 314.
Projected 40 Time: 5.34.
Projected Round (2010): 6-7.
11/28/09: Has 27 tackles, five TFL and two sacks in 11 games. Some 3-4 team needing nose tackle depth will take him late.

Kade Weston, Georgia
Height: 6-5. Weight: 322.
Projected 40 Time: 5.05.
Projected Round (2010): 6-7.
11/28/09: Solid numbers for a nose tackle: 25 tackles, six TFL and two sacks in 11 games.

3-Tech:
Lamarr Houston, Texas
Height: 6-2. Weight: 300.
Projected 40 Time: 5.02.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4.
11/28/09: Having a monster year for the Longhorns with 37 tackles, 13.5 TFL and five sacks in 11 games.

Corey Peters, Kentucky
Height: 6-3. Weight: 295.
Projected 40 Time: 4.97.
Projected Round (2010): 4-5.
11/28/09: Having a monstrous senior campaign for the Wildcats with 49 tackles, 11 TFL and four sacks.

Nate Collins, Virginia
Height: 6-2. Weight: 290.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2010): 5-6.
11/28/09: Has a whopping 70 tackles, 9.5 TFL and five sacks in 11 games as a senior.

Mick Williams, Pittsburgh
Height: 6-1. Weight: 280.
Projected 40 Time: 4.89.
Projected Round (2010): 5-6.
11/28/09: A 4-3 under tackle who can really get after the quarterback, Mick Williams has 13 TFL and four sacks in nine games this season.

Roy P

01-09-2010, 04:22 PM

If Thomas declares, and he's there at our pick, that's the guy I want.

I heard he Declared........I may have to figure out where he goes on my board.
Does he go ahead of 'Spoon? Haden?

HPF Bob

01-09-2010, 10:38 PM

The Austin paper confirms Thomas intends to go pro citing the need to do "what's best for my family". Good luck to him.

Roy P

01-10-2010, 05:35 PM

1 DT Ndamukong Suh 6'4" 302 Nebraska
2 S *Eric Berry 5'11" 203 Tennessee
3 DT *Gerald McCoy 6'4" 295 Oklahoma
4 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 Texas
5 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 Missouri
6 LB *Rolando McClain 6'4" 245 Alabama
7 CB *Joe Haden 5'11" 190 Florida
8 CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 Michigan
9 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 Florida St
10 OT Russell Okung 6'6" 305 Oklahoma St
11 LB Travis Lewis 6'2" 232 Oklahoma
12 RB CJ Spiller 5'11" 195 Clemson
13 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 325 Tennessee
14 DE *Derrick Morgan 6'4" 265 Georgia Tech
15 WR *Dez Bryant 6'2" 210 Oklahoma St
16 RB *Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 235 Georgia Tech
17 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 Fresno St.
18 LB Brandon Spikes 6'3" 256 Florida
19 DT Brian Price 6'2" 300 UCLA
20 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 Wake Forest
21 OG Mike Iupati 6'5" 330 Idaho
22 LB Greg Jones 6'1" 223 Michigan State
23 WR Golden Tate 5'11" 195 Notre Dame
24 LB Navorro Bowman 6'1" 232 Penn St
25 WR Brandon LaFell 6'3" 206 LSU
26 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 Boise St
27 LB Roddrick Muckelroy 6'2" 235 Texas
28 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 Stanford
29 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 Kansas
30 OT Kyle Calloway 6'7" 318 Iowa
31 OT Joseph Barksdale 6'5" 315 LSU
32 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 Illinois
33 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 Iowa
34 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 Tennessee
35 CB Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 Vanderbilt
36 WR Danario Alexander 6'4" 210 Missouri
37 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 Mississippi St
38 LB Daryl Washington 6'2" 224 TCU
39 OC Kristofer O'Dowd 6'5" 298 USC
40 CB Javier Arenas 5'9" 198 Alabama
41 DT Lamarr Houston 2-Jun 284 Texas
42 RB Charles Scott 5'11" 234 LSU
43 OC Stefen Wisniewski 6'3" 298 Penn St
44 OC Matt Tennant 6'4" 295 Boston College
45 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 Baylor
46 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 188 Rutgers
47 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 Auburn
48 OG Mike Johnson 6'5" 305 Alabama
49 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 Iowa
50 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 UCLA
51 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 300 Purdue
52 LB Keenan Clayton 6'2" 220 Oklahoma
53 OG Thomas Austin 6'3" 315 Clemson
54 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 Central Michigan
55 LB O'Brien Schofield 6'2" 250 Wisconsin
56 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 Kentucky
57 DT Vince Oghobaase 6'6" 302 Duke
58 LB Darryl Sharpton 5'11" 235 Miami
59 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 Utah
60 LB Perry Riley 6'1" 245 LSU
61 DT Boo Robinson 6'1" 305 Wake Forest
62 DT Nate Collins 6'2" 290 Virginia
63 CB Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 Oklahoma
64 RB Chris Brown 5'11" 210 Oklahoma
65 OC Ted Larsen 6'2" 300 North Carolina St
66 CB Jerome Murphy 1-Jun 185 South Florida
67 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 303 Notre Dame
68 LB Josh Hull 6'3" 240 Penn St
69 DT Mick Williams 6'1" 280 Pittsburgh

Roy P

01-13-2010, 09:30 PM

1 DT Ndamukong Suh 6'4" 302 Nebraska
2 S *Eric Berry 5'11" 203 Tennessee
3 DT *Gerald McCoy 6'4" 295 Oklahoma
4 CB *Joe Haden 5'11" 190 Florida
5 OT Trent Williams 6'5" 308 Oklahoma
6 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 Texas
7 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 Missouri
8 LB *Rolando McClain 6'4" 245 Alabama
9 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 Florida St
10 OT Russell Okung 6'6" 305 Oklahoma St
11 LB Travis Lewis 6'2" 232 Oklahoma
12 RB CJ Spiller 5'11" 195 Clemson
13 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 325 Tennessee
14 DE *Derrick Morgan 6'4" 265 Georgia Tech
15 WR *Dez Bryant 6'2" 210 Oklahoma St
16 LB Brandon Spikes 6'3" 256 Florida
17 OG Mike Iupati 6'5" 330 Idaho
18 WR Golden Tate 5'11" 195 Notre Dame
19 WR Brandon LaFell 6'3" 206 LSU
20 RB *Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 235 Georgia Tech
21 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 Fresno St.
22 CB Syd'Quan Thompson 5'9" 188 California
23 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 Wake Forest
24 DT Brian Price 6'2" 300 UCLA
25 DE Greg Hardy 6'4" 265 Mississippi
26 LB Greg Jones 6'1" 223 Michigan State
27 LB Navorro Bowman 6'1" 232 Penn St
28 DE Corey Wootton 6'6" 270 Northwestern
29 CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 Michigan
30 LB Sean Lee 6'2" 236 Penn St
31 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 Illinois
32 OT Joseph Barksdale 6'5" 315 LSU
33 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 Mississippi St
34 OC Matt Tennant 6'4" 295 Boston College
35 DE George Selvie 6'4" 245 South Florida
36 CB Jerome Murphy 6'1" 185 South Florida
37 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 Boise St
38 LB Roddrick Muckelroy 6'2" 235 Texas
39 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 Stanford
40 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 Kansas
41 OG Mike Johnson 6'5" 305 Alabama
42 OT Kyle Calloway 6'7" 318 Iowa
43 WR Danario Alexander 6'4" 210 Missouri
44 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 Iowa
45 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 Tennessee
46 LB Dekoda Watson 6'2" 226 Florida St
47 CB Javier Arenas 5'9" 198 Alabama
48 FS Major Wright Florida
49 LB Daryl Washington 6'2" 224 TCU
50 OT Charles Brown 6'5" 298 USC
51 OC Kristofer O'Dowd 6'5" 298 USC
52 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 Kentucky
53 DT Lamarr Houston 6'2" 284 Texas
54 OC Stefen Wisniewski 6'3" 298 Penn St
55 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 Baylor
56 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 188 Rutgers
57 QB Sean Canfield 6'4" 215 Oregon St
58 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 UCLA
59 LB O'Brien Schofield 6'2" 250 Wisconsin
60 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 Auburn
61 CB Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 Vanderbilt
62 RB Charles Scott 5'11" 234 LSU
63 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 Iowa
64 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 300 Purdue
65 LB Keenan Clayton 6'2" 220 Oklahoma
66 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 Central Michigan
67 DT Vince Oghobaase 6'6" 302 Duke
68 LB Darryl Sharpton 5'11" 235 Miami
69 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 Utah
70 CB Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 Oklahoma
71 OC Ted Larsen 6'2" 300 North Carolina St
72 CB Sherrick McManis 5'11" 190 Northwestern
73 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 Kentucky
74 LB Perry Riley 6'1" 245 LSU
75 DT Nate Collins 6'2" 290 Virginia
76 RB Andre Anderson 5'11" 212 Tulane
77 RB Chris Brown 5'11" 210 Oklahoma
78 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 Central Florida
79 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 303 Notre Dame
80 OG Thomas Austin 6'3" 315 Clemson
81 DT Boo Robinson 6'1" 305 Wake Forest
82 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 East Carolina
83 LB Josh Hull 6'3" 240 Penn St
84 LB Ryan D'Imperio 6'1" 240 Rutgers
85 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 Virginia
86 DT Mick Williams 6'1" 280 Pittsburgh

gunn

01-21-2010, 09:45 AM

Charles Brown looks like a top 10 pick to me. Could possibly be the best tackle in the draft... maybe a notch behind Okung

Roy P

01-25-2010, 10:31 PM

1 DT Ndamukong Suh
2 S *Eric Berry
3 CB *Joe Haden
4 DT *Gerald McCoy
5 OT Russell Okung
6 OT Trent Williams
7 LB Sean Weatherspoon
8 LB *Rolando McClain
9 DT Tyson Alualu
10 S Earl Thomas
11 CB Patrick Robinson
12 DT Dan Williams
13 OG Mike Iupati
15 RB Ryan Matthews
16 RB CJ Spiller
17 CB Brandon Ghee
18 CB Syd'Quan Thompson
19 OG Vladimir Ducasse
20 OT Charles Brown
21 CB Donovan Warren
22 DE Corey Wootton
23 DT Brian Price
24 DE Greg Hardy
25 LB Navorro Bowman
26 RB Anthony Dixon
27 DT Lamarr Houston
28 CB Kyle Wilson
29 OG Mike Johnson
30 OG Jon Asamoah
31 CB Trevard Lindley
32 OT Kyle Calloway
33 CB Devin McCourty
34 OC Kristofer O'Dowd
35 RB Toby Gerhart
36 LB Roddrick Muckelroy
37 WR *Arrelious Benn
38 S Darrell Stuckey
39 RB Montario Hardesty
40 CB Javier Arenas
41 WR Danario Alexander
42 CB Alterraun Verner
43 LB AJ Edds
44 LB Rennie Curran
45 LB Dekoda Watson
46 LB Daryl Washington
47 OC Matt Tennant
48 OC Stefen Wisniewski
49 OC JD Walton
50 QB Sean Canfield
51 RB Ben Tate
52 CB Myron Lewis
53 RB Charles Scott
54 DT Mike Neal
55 LB Pat Angerer
56 CB Brian Jackson
57 QB Dan LeFevour
58 QB John Skelton
59 DT Vince Oghobaase
60 S Robert Johnson

Kyle Wilson can be moving up from #28 after watching his Senior Bowl Practice Monday.

Roy P

02-03-2010, 07:27 PM

1 DT Ndamukong Suh 6'4" 302 Nebraska
2 S *Eric Berry 5'11" 203 Tennessee
3 CB *Joe Haden 5'11" 190 Florida
4 DT *Gerald McCoy 6'4" 295 Oklahoma
5 OT Russell Okung 6'6" 305 Oklahoma St
6 OT Trent Williams 6'5" 308 Oklahoma
7 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 Missouri
8 LB *Rolando McClain 6'4" 245 Alabama
9 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 325 Tennessee
10 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 Texas
11 OT Bryan Bulaga 6'5" 315 Iowa
12 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 Fresno St.
13 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 Florida St
14 OG Mike Iupati 6'5" 330 Idaho
15 RB CJ Spiller 5'11" 195 Clemson
16 DE Corey Wootton 6'6" 270 Northwestern
17 DT Brian Price 6'2" 300 UCLA
18 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 Boise St
19 CB Syd'Quan Thompson 5'9" 188 California
20 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 188 Rutgers
21 DE Greg Hardy 6'4" 265 Mississippi
22 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 Illinois
23 CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 Michigan
24 DT Tyson Alualu 6'2" 295 California
25 OG Mike Johnson 6'5" 305 Alabama
26 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 North Carolina
27 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 Mississippi St
28 OG Vladimir Ducasse 6'5" 330 Massachusetts
29 LB Navorro Bowman 6'1" 232 Penn St
30 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 Stanford
31 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 Wake Forest
32 DT Lamarr Houston 6'2" 284 Texas
34 LB Roddrick Muckelroy 6'2" 235 Texas
35 WR *Arrelious Benn 6'2" 214 Illinois
36 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 Kansas
37 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 Auburn
38 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 Tennessee
39 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 Kentucky
40 WR Danario Alexander 6'4" 210 Missouri
41 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 Iowa
42 OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 320 Iowa
42 LB Rennie Curran 5'11" 225 Georgia
43 LB Dekoda Watson 6'2" 226 Florida St
44 LB Daryl Washington 6'2" 224 TCU
45 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 300 Purdue
46 RB Charles Scott 5'11" 234 LSU
47 OC Matt Tennant 6'4" 295 Boston College
48 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 Central Michigan
49 CB Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 Vanderbilt
50 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 UCLA
51 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 Iowa
52 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 Baylor
53 CB Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 Oklahoma
54 S Larry Asante 6'0" 210 Nebraska
55 DT Nate Collins 6'2" 290 Virginia
56 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 Fordham
57 DT Vince Oghobaase 6'6" 302 Duke
58 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 Utah
59 OC Ted Larsen 6'2" 300 North Carolina St
60 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214 Maryland
61 FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 Texas Tech
62 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 Virginia
63 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 Kentucky
64 LB Keenan Clayton 6'2" 220 Oklahoma
65 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 Central Florida

Roy P

02-09-2010, 06:40 PM

1 OT Trent Williams 6'5" 308 5.30 Oklahoma
2 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 325 5.23 Tennessee
3 OT Bryan Bulaga 6'5" 315 4.96 Iowa
4 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.45 Texas
5 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.59 Missouri
6 LB *Rolando McClain 6'4" 245 4.68 Alabama
7 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.42 Florida St
10 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
11 DT Brian Price 6'2" 300 5.08 UCLA
12 CB Syd'Quan Thompson 5'9" 188 4.49 California
13 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.49 Fresno St.
14 CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 4.42 Michigan
15 DE Corey Wootton 6'6" 270 4.80 Northwestern
16 DE Greg Hardy 6'4" 265 4.67 Mississippi
17 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
18 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
19 OG Mike Johnson 6'5" 305 5.38 Alabama
20 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 4.59 Mississippi St
21 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 188 4.47 Rutgers
21 WR *Arrelious Benn 6'2" 214 4.50 Illinois
24 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.55 Stanford
25 DT Tyson Alualu 6'2" 295 4.96 California
27 LB Daryl Washington 6'2" 224 4.57 TCU
28 DT Lamarr Houston 6'2" 284 4.93 Texas
29 S Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.53 Florida
30 LB Rennie Curran 5'11" 225 4.56 Georgia
31 OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 320 5.28 Iowa
32 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 4.72 Central Michigan
33 LB Roddrick Muckelroy 6'2" 235 4.67 Texas
34 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 5.18 North Carolina
35 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.50 Auburn
36 OC Matt Tennant 6'4" 295 5.06 Boston College
37 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.55 Tennessee
38 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.54 Mississippi
39 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.50 Kansas
40 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.68 Iowa
41 LB Dekoda Watson 6'2" 226 4.64 Florida St
42 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
43 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 300 4.96 Purdue
44 S Larry Asante 6'0" 210 4.56 Nebraska
45 CB Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.52 Vanderbilt
46 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.23 Central Florida
47 CB Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 4.54 Oklahoma
48 RB Charles Scott 5'11" 234 4.60 LSU
49 OC Ted Larsen 6'2" 300 5.24 North Carolina St
50 DT Vince Oghobaase 6'6" 302 5.06 Duke
51 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham
52 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
53 FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 4.52 Texas Tech
54 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214 4.59 Maryland
55 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 4.52 Iowa
56 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 4.95 Kentucky
57 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 4.54 Indiana
58 LB Perry Riley 6'1" 245 4.64 LSU
59 OC John Estes 6'2" 295 5.22 Hawaii
60 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky
61 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.19 Baylor
62 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 4.54 Virginia
63 WR Danario Alexander 6'4" 210 4.58 Missouri
64 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 303 5.26 Notre Dame

HPF Bob

02-10-2010, 03:01 AM

Fordham?? You want a quarterback from Fordham? Do they still run the single wing there? I think the last football star from Fordham was Vince Lombardi.

Roy P

02-10-2010, 08:32 AM

Fordham?? You want a quarterback from Fordham? Do they still run the single wing there? I think the last football star from Fordham was Vince Lombardi.

I saw him in the All-Star game and he looks just like Schaub, but with a little more zip on the ball. I also wanted to draft Schaub out of Virginia. I don't care if he was the QB of Sister Mary's School of Blind Girls.

Roy P

02-13-2010, 11:14 PM

1 OT Bryan Bulaga 6'5" 315 4.96 Iowa
2 OT Trent Williams 6'5" 308 5.30 Oklahoma
3 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 325 5.23 Tennessee
4 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.45 Texas
5 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.59 Missouri
6 LB *Rolando McClain 6'4" 245 4.68 Alabama
7 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
8 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.42 Florida St
9 DT Brian Price 6'2" 300 5.08 UCLA
10 CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 4.42 Michigan
11 DE Corey Wootton 6'6" 270 4.80 Northwestern
12 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
13 WR *Arrelious Benn 6'2" 214 4.50 Illinois
14 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
15 OG Mike Johnson 6'5" 305 5.38 Alabama
16 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.49 Fresno St.
17 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 188 4.47 Rutgers
18 CB Syd'Quan Thompson 5'9" 188 4.49 California
19 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 4.59 Mississippi St
20 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.55 Stanford
21 DT Tyson Alualu 6'2" 295 4.96 California
22 DE Greg Hardy 6'4" 265 4.67 Mississippi
23 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 5.18 North Carolina
24 DT Lamarr Houston 6'2" 284 4.93 Texas
25 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.50 Auburn
26 LB Daryl Washington 6'2" 224 4.57 TCU
27 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.52 Vanderbilt
28 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.53 Florida
29 LB Rennie Curran 5'11" 225 4.56 Georgia
30 OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 320 5.28 Iowa
31 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.54 Mississippi
32 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.55 Tennessee
33 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.68 Iowa
34 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 300 4.96 Purdue
35 LB Roddrick Muckelroy 6'2" 235 4.67 Texas
36 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.50 Kansas
37 OC Matt Tennant 6'4" 295 5.06 Boston College
38 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
39 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.23 Central Florida
40 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 4.54 Virginia
41 FS Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 4.54 Oklahoma
42 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 4.72 Central Michigan
43 S Larry Asante 6'0" 210 4.56 Nebraska
44 RB Charles Scott 5'11" 234 4.60 LSU
45 OC Ted Larsen 6'2" 300 5.24 North Carolina St
46 LB Dekoda Watson 6'2" 226 4.64 Florida St
47 DT Vince Oghobaase 6'6" 302 5.06 Duke
48 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham
49 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
50 FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 4.52 Texas Tech
51 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 4.52 Iowa
52 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 4.95 Kentucky
53 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 4.54 Indiana
54 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214 4.59 Maryland
55 LB Perry Riley 6'1" 245 4.64 LSU
56 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.19 Baylor
57 OC John Estes 6'2" 295 5.22 Hawaii
58 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky
59 WR Danario Alexander 6'4" 210 4.58 Missouri
60 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 303 5.26 Notre Dame

idymoe

02-14-2010, 12:08 PM

Roy P

02-14-2010, 01:43 PM

Roy, maybe you have answered this. I know several others have expressed this opinion. You have two OT's at the top of your list. I think everyone knows Duane Brown could make an excellant pulling guard. Do you not think he will eventually be an elite LT?

To tell you the truth, I don't care. The two guys I have at the top of my list would make pretty good LGs if Chester Pitts can't come back from injury or is simply let go as a Free Agent. Maybe this season Brown stays at LT b/c of Experience and a rookie like Bulaga would play LG. Then next season, they could possibly flip positions if that's what the coaches thought would be best.
Conversely, if the Rookie came in and played LT and moved Brown - I'd be fine with that if the overall line play was better.

Roy P

02-21-2010, 10:42 PM

1 OT Bryan Bulaga Iowa
2 OT Trent Williams Oklahoma
3 DT Dan Williams Tennessee
4 LB Sean Weatherspoon Missouri
5 LB *Rolando McClain Alabama
6 S Earl Thomas Texas
7 DT Brian Price UCLA
8 CB Patrick Robinson Florida St
9 CB Kyle Wilson Boise St
10 CB Devin McCourty Rutgers
11 OG Jon Asamoah Illinois
12 S Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech
13 RB Ryan Matthews Fresno St.
14 OG Mike Johnson Alabama
15 DT Tyson Alualu California
16 CB Syd'Quan Thompson California
17 CB Brandon Ghee Wake Forest
18 RB Toby Gerhart Stanford
19 CB Donovan Warren Michigan
20 RB Anthony Dixon Mississippi St
21 DE Greg Hardy Mississippi
22 RB Ben Tate Auburn
23 LB Daryl Washington TCU
24 RB Montario Hardesty Tennessee
25 OT Rodger Saffold Indiana
26 DT Lamarr Houston Texas
27 LB Rennie Curran Georgia
28 FS Chris Cook Virginia
29 OT Kyle Calloway Iowa
30 CB Alterraun Verner UCLA
31 S Darrell Stuckey Kansas
32 FS Major Wright Florida
33 DT Linval Joseph East Carolina
34 FS Myron Lewis Vanderbilt
35 S Myron Rolle Florida State
36 OC Matt Tennant Boston College
37 DT Mike Neal Purdue
38 LB AJ Edds Iowa
39 OG John Jerry Mississippi
40 LB Roddrick Muckelroy Texas
41 DT Jay Ross East Carolina
42 DT Cam Thomas North Carolina
43 DT Torrell Troup Central Florida
44 QB Dan LeFevour Central Michigan
45 S Larry Asante Nebraska
46 FS Brian Jackson Oklahoma
47 DT Geno Atkins Georgia
48 OC JD Walton Baylor
49 OC Ted Larsen North Carolina St
50 DT Vince Oghobaase Duke
51 LB Pat Angerer Iowa
52 S Robert Johnson Utah
53 FS Jamar Wall Texas Tech
54 FS Terrell Skinner Maryland
55 S Nick Polk Indiana
56 QB John Skelton Fordham
57 CB Trevard Lindley Kentucky
58 DT Corey Peters Kentucky
59 OG Marshall Newhouse TCU
60 WR Danario Alexander Missouri
61 OC John Estes Hawaii
62 DE Lindsey Witten Connecticut
63 OC Eric Olsen Notre Dame
64 CB Patrick Stoudamire Western Illinois
65 DE Junior Galette Stillman College

painekiller

02-21-2010, 11:01 PM

I saw him in the All-Star game and he looks just like Schaub, but with a little more zip on the ball. I also wanted to draft Schaub out of Virginia. I don't care if he was the QB of Sister Mary's School of Blind Girls.

I thought he reminded me of Flacco, same size ease of motion and the ball zips up the seems. Now he is raw and need to work on his footwork and accuracy.

Roy P

02-22-2010, 08:17 AM

I thought he reminded me of Flacco, same size ease of motion and the ball zips up the seems. Now he is raw and need to work on his footwork and accuracy.

I won't argue too much with you PK, but I actually liked Schaub coming out of UVa more than Flacco. I thought Flacco would need more footwork drills since he was always in the Shotgun at UDel. Anyway, my point is we don't "need" a QB, but if we draft this kid from Fordham, I'd be o.k. with that.

painekiller

02-22-2010, 12:32 PM

I won't argue too much with you PK, but I actually liked Schaub coming out of UVa more than Flacco. I thought Flacco would need more footwork drills since he was always in the Shotgun at UDel. Anyway, my point is we don't "need" a QB, but if we draft this kid from Fordham, I'd be o.k. with that.

My comparison to Flacco had more to do with the arm strength, I have never put Schaub in the high end of arm strength. Schaub is solid, and not weak armed, but he is also not a rocket arm. Flacco has a rocket arm.

Skelton has natural tools that need refinement.

Also I don't remember Schaub in college anymore, wasn't as big a college watcher then.

Roy P

02-28-2010, 08:36 PM

OL & RB have shown up at the Combine.

1 OT Trent Williams 6'5" 308 Oklahoma
2 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 325 Tennessee
3 OT Bryan Bulaga 6'5" 315 Iowa
4 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 Missouri
5 LB *Rolando McClain 6'4" 245 Alabama
6 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 Texas
7 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 Florida St
8 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 Boise St
9 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 Fresno St.
10 DT Brian Price 6'2" 300 UCLA
11 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 188 Rutgers
12 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 Stanford
13 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 Auburn
14 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 Tennessee
15 DT Tyson Alualu 6'2" 295 California
16 OT Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 Indiana
17 WR *Arrelious Benn 6'2" 214 Illinois
18 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 Illinois
19 S Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 Georgia Tech
20 LB Daryl Washington 6'2" 224 TCU
21 CB Syd'Quan Thompson 5'9" 188 California
22 CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 Michigan
23 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 Wake Forest
24 OG Mike Johnson 6'5" 305 Alabama
25 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 Virginia
26 DE Greg Hardy 6'4" 265 Mississippi
27 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 Mississippi St
28 DT Lamarr Houston 6'2" 284 Texas
29 LB Rennie Curran 5'11" 225 Georgia
30 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 Central Michigan
31 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 Mississippi
32 OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 320 Iowa
33 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 TCU
34 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 North Carolina
35 OC Matt Tennant 6'4" 295 Boston College
36 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 Florida
37 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 UCLA
38 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 Kansas
39 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 Iowa
40 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 Vanderbilt
41 S Larry Asante 6'0" 210 Nebraska
42 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 300 Purdue
43 DT Linval Joseph 6'6" 322 East Carolina
44 LB Roddrick Muckelroy 6'2" 235 Texas
45 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 Central Florida
46 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 286 Georgia
47 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 Fordham
48 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 Baylor
49 S Myron Rolle 6' 2" 211 Florida State
50 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 Iowa
51 FS Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 Oklahoma
52 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 East Carolina
53 DT Vince Oghobaase 6'6" 302 Duke
54 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 Fresno St.
55 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 Kentucky
56 OC Ted Larsen 6'2" 300 North Carolina St
57 WR Danario Alexander 6'4" 210 Missouri
58 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 Utah
59 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 Indiana
60 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214 Maryland

NBT

03-01-2010, 03:03 PM

I want to get a gander at FS Earl Thomas tomorrow at the combine. I just may become a convert. He is supposed to have superb instincts for the position.

kRocket

03-01-2010, 05:16 PM

Just FYI, Mayock moved him ahead of Eric Berry in his top 5. Don't know why, just glimpsed the crawl while watching the combine.

Roy P

03-01-2010, 07:25 PM

I want to get a gander at FS Earl Thomas tomorrow at the combine. I just may become a convert. He is supposed to have superb instincts for the position.

Since Spoon ran a 4.68 today, I may have to slide Thomas ahead of him on the draft board. I'm expecting Earl to run a 4.45 or better. That would compel me to move him up by de-facto. Not to mention, we really need a FS and Chris Cook put up 7 reps on the Bench while Myron Lewis put up 10. I'm thinking that the only "sleeper" CB/FS hybrid is going to be Brian Jackson from Oklahoma. Therefore, if Thomas is there at #20, I might just have to go that route. Of course, now that I'm jumping on that bandwagon, he'll be gone by then. We'll have to wait and see what he does at the Combine tomorrow.

nunusguy

03-01-2010, 07:36 PM

Just FYI, Mayock moved him ahead of Eric Berry in his top 5. Don't know why, just glimpsed the crawl while watching the combine.
FWIW he's also got McCoy ahead of Suh on the basis of the Oklahoma tackle being more disruptive, more of a pure 3-Tech talent than Suh.

Roy P

03-01-2010, 08:22 PM

Today they had a dissertation on how the NFL is a passing league and that defenders are now being graded on how well they defend against the pass. McCoy has more "wiggle" to slip past Guards to get pressure on the QB. Getting sacks is how DTs can make plays in the passing game. DBs make plays by getting Interceptions, so Thomas is the better "Ball Hawk" in Mayock's eyes. Eric Berry goes for "hits" to break up passes, so that's his explanation for why he has guys ranked higher.

Roy P

03-02-2010, 08:01 PM

This is my quick knee-jerk reaction to what I saw at the Combine. While I'm not "in love" with Taylor Mays, he's at least now on my draft board. While Spoon let me down with his 40, he more than made up for it with 34 Reps and a 40" Vertical. The only reason I don't have him above Earl Thomas is simply because of team Needs and that may change after Free Agency. Anyway, this is the hot off the presses draft board after watching the DBs at the Combine.

1 OT Trent Williams
2 DT Dan Williams
3 OT Bryan Bulaga
4 S Earl Thomas
5 LB Sean Weatherspoon
6 S Taylor Mays
7 CB Devin McCourty
8 LB *Rolando McClain
9 CB Patrick Robinson
10 CB Kyle Wilson
11 RB Ben Tate
12 RB Montario Hardesty
13 RB Ryan Matthews
14 RB Toby Gerhart
15 CB Brandon Ghee
16 WR *Arrelious Benn
17 OG Jon Asamoah
18 OT Rodger Saffold
19 S Morgan Burnett
20 LB Daryl Washington
21 DT Lamarr Houston
22 DT Tyson Alualu
23 CB Syd'Quan Thompson
24 DE Greg Hardy
25 RB Anthony Dixon
26 OG John Jerry
27 OG Marshall Newhouse
28 OG Mike Johnson
29 DT Linval Joseph
30 DT Mike Neal
31 QB Dan LeFevour
32 OT Kyle Calloway
33 DT Cam Thomas
34 LB Rennie Curran
35 OC Matt Tennant
36 FS Major Wright
37 S Darrell Stuckey
38 CB Donovan Warren
39 FS Myron Lewis
40 CB Alterraun Verner
41 LB AJ Edds
42 FS Brian Jackson
43 S Larry Asante
44 LB Roddrick Muckelroy
45 DT Torrell Troup
46 DT Geno Atkins
47 QB John Skelton
48 OC JD Walton
49 LB Pat Angerer
50 OC Eric Olsen
51 DT Jay Ross
52 RB Lonyae Miller
53 FS Chris Cook
54 CB Trevard Lindley
55 OC Ted Larsen
56 DT Corey Peters
57 S Robert Johnson
58 S Myron Rolle
59 S Nick Polk
60 FS Terrell Skinner

kRocket

03-03-2010, 11:57 AM

I wish Amobi Okoye would either become a blooming starter or the F.O. would give up on him so we could draft a new tackle of that ilk. Some of the good tackles available aren't useful because they duplicate him, and yet nobody seems wholly satisfied with his performance.

Roy P

03-08-2010, 08:54 PM

After watching the Senior Bowl again, I have moved up Bulldogs Geno Atkins and Jamar Chaney. Atkins is a mid-round pick who could push Okoye. Chaney was a MLB who I wrote off as being a duplicate for Ryans. However, he is more athletic than I thought. I also didn't have Eric Berry on the board, since I thought it was a moot point. However, if he's on the board after the first 10 picks, I may have to get on the phone and see what I need to do in order to move up.

1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 Tennessee
2 OT Trent Williams 6'5" 315 Oklahoma
3 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 325 Tennessee
4 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 Texas
5 OT Bryan Bulaga 6'5" 315 Iowa
6 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 Missouri
7 LB Rolando McClain 6'4" 245 Alabama
8 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 Boise St
9 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 Florida St
10 S Taylor Mays 6'3" 230 USC
11 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 Rutgers
12 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 Auburn
13 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 Tennessee
14 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 Fresno St.
15 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 Wake Forest
16 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 Stanford
17 WR Arrelious Benn 6'2" 214 Illinois
18 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 Illinois
19 LB Daryl Washington 6'2" 226 TCU
20 DT Tyson Alualu 6'2" 291 California
21 OT Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 Indiana
22 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 286 Georgia
23 DT Lamarr Houston 6'2" 284 Texas
24 S Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 Georgia Tech
25 CB Syd'Quan Thompson 5'9" 182 California
26 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 Mississippi St
27 DE Greg Hardy 6'4" 265 Mississippi
28 OG Mike Johnson 6'5" 305 Alabama
29 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 Mississippi
30 CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 Michigan
31 OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 320 Iowa
32 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 Central Michigan
33 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 Kansas
34 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 Mississippi St
35 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 293 Purdue
36 LB Rennie Curran 5'11" 225 Georgia
37 DT Linval Joseph 6'6" 322 East Carolina
38 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 Florida
39 OC Matt Tennant 6'4" 295 Boston College
40 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 TCU
41 FS Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 Oklahoma
42 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 UCLA
43 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 Kentucky
44 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 Vanderbilt
45 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 Iowa
46 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 Fresno St.
47 S Larry Asante 6'0" 210 Nebraska
48 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 Fresno St.
49 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 Central Florida
50 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 Fordham
51 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 Baylor
52 LB Roddrick Muckelroy 6'2" 235 Texas
53 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 North Carolina
54 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 Virginia
55 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 303 Notre Dame
56 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 East Carolina
57 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 Iowa
58 OC Ted Larsen 6'2" 300 North Carolina St
59 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 Kentucky
60 S Myron Rolle 6' 2" 211 Florida State
61 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 Indiana
62 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 Utah
63 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214 Maryland
64 FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 Texas Tech
65 WR Danario Alexander 6'4" 210 Missouri

Roy P

03-10-2010, 05:49 PM

Getting more "official" times slants my view and some players come off the board altogether.

1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 4.40 Tennessee
2 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee
3 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas
4 OT Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma
5 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
6 OT Bryan Bulaga 6'5" 315 5.26 Iowa
7 LB Rolando McClain 6'4" 245 4.68 Alabama
8 S Taylor Mays 6'3" 230 4.43 USC
9 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
10 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers
11 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.45 Fresno St.
12 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.56 Florida St
13 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
14 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
15 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295 4.95 California
16 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
17 LB Daryl Washington 6'2" 226 4.66 TCU
18 OT Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
19 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
20 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
21 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
22 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
23 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
24 S Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 4.54 Georgia Tech
25 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 4.46 Virginia
26 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 4.72 Central Michigan
27 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue
28 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 4.59 Mississippi St
29 CB Syd'Quan Thompson 5'9" 182 4.49 California
30 OG Mike Johnson 6'5" 305 5.41 Alabama
31 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
32 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
33 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
34 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.22 Baylor
35 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
36 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
37 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.54 UCLA
38 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.18 Central Florida
39 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
40 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.45 Vanderbilt
41 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
42 FS Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 4.63 Oklahoma
43 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 4.71 Iowa
44 LB Rennie Curran 5'11" 225 4.72 Georgia
45 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky
46 OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 320 5.48 Iowa
47 OC Ted Larsen 6'3" 304 5.26 North Carolina St
48 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame
49 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St.
50 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham
51 DE Lindsey Witten 6'4" 248 4.73 Connecticut
52 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 4.54 Indiana
53 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214 4.59 Maryland
54 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina
55 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky
56 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
57 OC John Estes 6'2" 295 5.22 Hawaii
58 LB Kavell Conner 6'1" 242 4.63 Clemson
59 WR Danario Alexander 6'4" 210 4.58 Missouri
60 FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 4.52 Texas Tech

Roy P

03-14-2010, 04:01 PM

1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 4.40 Tennessee
2 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas
3 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee
4 OT Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma
5 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
6 OT Bryan Bulaga 6'5" 315 5.26 Iowa
7 LB Rolando McClain 6'4" 245 4.68 Alabama
8 S Taylor Mays 6'3" 230 4.43 USC
9 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
10 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers
11 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
12 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.45 Fresno St.
13 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.56 Florida St
14 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
15 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
16 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
17 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295 4.95 California
18 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
19 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
20 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
21 LB Daryl Washington 6'2" 226 4.66 TCU
22 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
23 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 Indiana (Pa)
24 OT Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
25 FS Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 4.54 Georgia Tech
26 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 4.46 Virginia
27 CB Syd'Quan Thompson 5'9" 182 4.49 California
28 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 4.72 Central Michigan
29 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue
30 OG Mike Johnson 6'5" 305 5.41 Alabama
31 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
32 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 4.59 Mississippi St
32 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
33 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
34 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
36 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.22 Baylor
37 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
38 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.54 UCLA
39 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
40 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St.
41 FS Kam Chancellor 6' 3" 235 4.60 Virginia Tech
42 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
43 OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 320 5.48 Iowa
44 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky
45 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 4.71 Iowa
46 LB Rennie Curran 5'11" 225 4.72 Georgia
47 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.45 Vanderbilt
48 OC Ted Larsen 6'3" 304 5.26 North Carolina St
49 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.18 Central Florida
50 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame
51 FS Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 4.63 Oklahoma
52 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham
53 DE Lindsey Witten 6'4" 248 4.73 Connecticut
54 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 4.54 Indiana
55 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214 4.59 Maryland
56 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina
57 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky
58 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
59 OC John Estes 6'2" 295 5.22 Hawaii
60 LB Kavell Conner 6'1" 242 4.63 Clemson

Roy P

03-14-2010, 06:45 PM

Either I have some of my guys overrated, or there are certain players being disrespected. I keep selecting some of the same guys over and over again, so that probably means, that mocks are simply not rating them high enough. This would be the draft that I'd be expecting to be able to come away with and I'd be willing to trade up into the 3rd by using next year's 2nd....

1. LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
2. CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
3. OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
3. FS Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 Indiana (Pa)
4. DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
5. OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
6. RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St.
6. QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham
7. DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky

Roy P

03-14-2010, 08:28 PM

I'm wondering if we could get a player like Weatherspoon and have the defense play a 3-3-5 on passing downs. Instead of removing the SAM, we replace the SS. I'd love to get Geno Atkins.

Barwin-Geno Atkins-Mario Williams

Cushing-Ryans- Sean Weatherspoon

Reeves - Akwasi Owusu Ansah - A.J. Jefferson - Quinn - Brandon Ghee

Roy P

03-21-2010, 10:04 AM

1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203
2 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195
3 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327
4 OT Trent Williams 6'5" 315
5 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245
6 LB Rolando McClain 6'4" 245
7 OT Bryan Bulaga 6'5" 315
8 S Taylor Mays 6'3" 230
9 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186
10 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185
11 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220
12 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191
13 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305
14 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194
15 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218
16 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215
17 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332
18 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235
19 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295
20 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293
21 LB Daryl Washington 6'2" 226
22 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308
23 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207
24 FS Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210
25 OT Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306
26 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210
27 CB Syd'Quan Thompson 5'9" 182
28 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226
29 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294
30 OG Mike Johnson 6'5" 305
31 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328
32 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235
33 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205
34 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205
35 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240
36 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305
37 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193
37 FS Kam Chancellor 6' 3" 235
38 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185
39 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326
40 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220
42 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246
43 OT Kyle Calloway 6'6" 320
44 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180
45 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245
46 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235
47 LB Rennie Curran 5'11" 225
48 OC Ted Larsen 6'3" 304
49 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314
50 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306
51 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205
52 FS Brian Jackson 6'1" 202
53 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317
54 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295
55 DE Lindsey Witten 6'4" 248
56 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213
57 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214
58 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200
59 OC John Estes 6'2" 295
60 LB Kavell Conner 6'1" 242

Roy P

03-26-2010, 11:07 PM

1 S Eric Berry
2 OT Trent Williams
3 S Earl Thomas
4 DT Dan Williams
5 LB Sean Weatherspoon
6 LB Rolando McClain
7 S Taylor Mays
8 CB Devin McCourty
9 CB Kyle Wilson
10 CB Brandon Ghee
11 CB Patrick Robinson
12 RB Ben Tate
13 RB Ryan Matthews
14 RB Toby Gerhart
15 RB Montario Hardesty
16 DT Tyson Alualu
17 DT Geno Atkins
18 DT Lamarr Houston
19 OG John Jerry
20 LB Daryl Washington
21 OG Jon Asamoah
22 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
23 FS Morgan Burnett
24 OT Rodger Saffold
25 FS Chris Cook
26 QB Dan LeFevour
27 DT Mike Neal
28 CB Kevin Thomas
29 DT Linval Joseph
30 FS Major Wright
31 S Darrell Stuckey
32 LB Jamar Chaney
33 OC JD Walton
34 RB James Starks
35 OG Marshall Newhouse
36 CB AJ Jefferson
37 CB Alterraun Verner
38 LB Pat Angerer
39 DT Torrell Troup
40 LB AJ Edds
41 CB Trevard Lindley
42 QB John Skelton
43 RB Lonyae Miller
44 DT Earl Mitchell
45 LB Simoni Lawrence
46 FS Myron Lewis
47 OG Shelley Smith
48 DE Lindsey Witten
49 RB Joique Bell
50 LB Rennie Curran
51 OC Eric Olsen
52 FS Brian Jackson
53 DT Jay Ross
54 DT Corey Peters
55 CB Syd'Quan Thompson
56 RB Anthony Dixon
57 S Nick Polk
58 FS Terrell Skinner
59 OC Joe Hawley
60 S Robert Johnson
61 OC John Estes
62 LB Kavell Conner
63 FS Jamar Wall
64 K Aaron Pettrey

kRocket

03-27-2010, 11:35 AM

Roy:

I would like you to look into a guy named Joe Webb of UAB. He was a QB for them but is coming out as a WR. He did not get an invite to combine, but his pro-day measurables put him at the very top of the receiver's list. He is +-6'3" 225, ran 4.5 40yd, 21 reps @225, 42.5" vert., 11.5' Broad, 4.04 shuttle, 6.71 3-cone. He is 5-6th round but rising fast.

I say this because who is say how much longer we can hold on to AJ if he really wants a ring and AD is getting long of tooth for never having been a starter. Joe is going to take a couple of years to make the switch otherwise he is probably a 1st. Just asking your opinion because Mayock mentioned him as a sleeper a couple of days ago and I have seen some mocks with us taking a WR around #4 which is ultimately where he will probably go IMO.

Roy P

03-27-2010, 12:41 PM

Roy:

I would like you to look into a guy named Joe Webb of UAB.
He is +-6'3" 225, ran 4.5 40yd, 21 reps @225, 42.5" vert., 11.5' Broad, 4.04 shuttle, 6.71 3-cone. He is 5-6th round but rising fast.

Just asking your opinion because Mayock mentioned him as a sleeper a couple of days ago and I have seen some mocks with us taking a WR around #4 which is ultimately where he will probably go IMO.

I saw Webb at the Senior Bowl practices and he didn't jump out at me. Corey Chavous was talking him up, but I just didn't see it. Also, I'm not really itching to get another WR after signing Kevin Walter. HOWEVER, if I were wanting to get a WR to develop and maybe put on the practice squad or just be a Special Teamer, then these are the players I'd look at....

Blair White Mich St. 6'2" 209lbs 4.49, 18 reps, 33.5" vert, 9.5' Broad, 4.03 shuttle, 6.69 3-Cone. He has good hands and runs routes better than Webb.

David Gettis Baylor 6'3" 217lbs 4.43, 15 reps, 34.5" vert, 10.3' Broad, 4.41 shuttle, 6.94 3-Cone.

Marcus Easely UConn 6'3" 210lbs 4.39, 16 reps, 34" vert, 10.2' Broad, 4.61 shuttle, 6.94 3-Cone

Scott Long UofL 6'2" 216lbs 4.46, 20 reps, 41.5" vert, 10.2' Broad, 4.09 shuttle, 6.45 3-Cone. He could possibly be signed as an undrafted Free Agent after the draft is over.

Now, I can understand falling in love with measurables and it's not like we are going to spend a 1st round pick on him like Jacksonville did on a QB turn WR. Just looking at previous conversions: 49er's Michael Robinson and the Jets' Brad Smith have been less than stellar. So, we could get a WR on the 3rd day of the draft and maybe one of these guys will be the one.

painekiller

03-27-2010, 01:39 PM

I would add Eric Decker Minnesota WR 6-3 217 projects as btween 4.47 and 4.54. He had his lis franc ligament repaired and is out 6-8 months from the surgery which happen in late October. I is not going to be able to run before the draft. Brandon Marshall and Ted Ginn Jr both had the same surgery and have recovered well.

kRocket

03-28-2010, 07:15 AM

On the whole, if I were going to draft a project WR in the 4-5th round I believe I would try for a high measurable athlete to convert to WR rather than a career wide receiver that couldn't make it past the 4-5th round. You really don't know what you are getting with either but QB's have a habit of being among the best athletes on the field since they were in middle school. It is always a crap shoot around the 5th round anyway so I would go with the potential high-reward guy. 6'3" height combine with 42.5" vertical would give him the advantage over most every DB. Just my 2 cents.

Roy P

03-28-2010, 11:34 AM

I would try for a high measurable athlete to convert to WR rather than a career wide receiver that couldn't make it past the 4-5th round. It is always a crap shoot around the 5th round anyway so I would go with the potential high-reward guy. 6'3" height combine with 42.5" vertical would give him the advantage over most every DB. Just my 2 cents.

If you are just looking for the athlete, to have an advantage over a DB, I'll take Long as an UDFA. He has experience catching the ball and if we are just looking for a project, why "waste" a draft pick on that? There are plenty of projects to be found after the draft. This team could draft a starter in the 4th round and it's 5th round picks could get significant playing time as a rotational player on the DLine or a player who could challenge Diles at WLB.

This team has enough holes that it doesn't have the luxury of drafting projects. We should be seeking solid contributors with every pick.

kRocket

03-28-2010, 05:11 PM

This team has enough holes that it doesn't have the luxury of drafting projects. We should be seeking solid contributors with every pick.

I can easily agree with that statement. I just can't imagine this team having much luck without AJ and it would be nice to have someone waiting in line and I don't think we really do right now.

Roy P

03-28-2010, 05:23 PM

I can easily agree with that statement. I just can't imagine this team having much luck without AJ and it would be nice to have someone waiting in line and I don't think we really do right now.

We wouldn't have much luck without Andre. The same could be said about most teams losing their best player. If at some point, Dre becomes injured or is a Free Agent that we can no longer keep, then we will probably draft a WR in the first round. Right now, we just have to keep our fingers crossed that Dre stays healthy and happy. The team wouldn't have much luck if Ryans or Schaub went down either, but we can't really draft their counterparts either.

Roy P

04-02-2010, 10:11 PM

-------------------------------Explosion-----Quickness----Athleticism
1 LB Sean Weatherspoon 84.25 12.97 6.50
2 RB Ben Tate 76.83 12.52 6.14
3 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 76.08 12.7 5.99
4 WR Scott Long 71.75 12.03 5.96
5 LB Jamar Chaney 75.33 12.73 5.92
6 CFS *Eric Berry 72.83 12.57 5.79
7 RB Montario Hardesty 72.33 12.52 5.78
8 DT Ndamukong Suh 76.25 13.34 5.72
9 DT Geno Atkins 76.75 13.44 5.71
10 RB Toby Gerhart 69.83 12.74 5.48
11 RB Lonyae Miller 72.5 13.29 5.46
12 LB Pat Angerer 70.16 12.96 5.41
13 DT Mike Neal 73.42 13.66 5.37
14 LB Simoni Lawrence 71.25 13.28 5.37
15 DT Linval Joseph 77.25 14.58 5.30
16 CSS Myron Rolle 67.25 12.7 5.30
17 CFS Brian Jackson 65.5 12.54 5.22
18 DT Lamarr Houston 73 14 5.21
19 CB Crezdon Butler 66.58 12.85 5.18
20 CB Kevin Thomas 64 12.52 5.11
21 DE Lindsey Witten 69.12 13.53 5.11
22 OL Eric Olsen 72.25 14.19 5.09
23 CB Devin McCourty 62.5 12.3 5.08
24 RB Ryan Matthews 65.08 12.82 5.08
25 CB Brandon Ghee 62.58 12.34 5.07
26 DT Torrell Troup 71.12 14.09 5.05
27 CB A.J. Jefferson 61.5 12.28 5.01
28 DT Tyson Alualu 66.2 13.25 5.00
29 OL Joe Hawley 69.75 14.01 4.98
30 CB *Joe Haden 63.42 12.81 4.95
31 LB Kavell Conner 66.66 13.51 4.93
32 OL Shelley Smith 69.25 14.12 4.90
33 OL Shawn Lauvao 67.92 13.87 4.90
34 DT Cam Thomas 68.5 14.19 4.83
35 RB James Starks 60.92 12.67 4.81
36 CB Kareem Jackson 60.32 12.59 4.79
37 OL Trent Williams 66.92 13.97 4.79
38 CFS Major Wright 61.42 12.84 4.78
39 LB Kam Chancellor 63.75 13.37 4.77
40 OL Rodger Saffold 65.92 13.89 4.75
41 CB David Pender 61.3 12.92 4.74
42 DT *Gerald McCoy 63 13.48 4.67
43 DT Dan Williams 67 14.5 4.62
44 DE George Selvie 63.58 13.78 4.61
45 DE Carlos Dunlap 61.75 13.43 4.60
46 CB Trevard Lindley 57.25 12.63 4.53
47 DT Earl Mitchell 62.42 13.79 4.53
48 LB AJ Edds 58.75 13.07 4.50

Explosion = Reps + Vert + Broad Jump
Quickness = 10yard + Shuttle + Cone
Athleticism = Explosion/Quickness

painekiller

04-02-2010, 10:17 PM

1 LB Sean Weatherspoon 84.25 12.97 6.50

How do you pass him up at 20? A super group of LBs, Cushing Ryans Weatherspoon, makes so much sense to me....

Roy P

04-03-2010, 10:13 PM

1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 4.40 Tennessee
2 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas
3 OT Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma
4 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
5 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee
6 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
7 S Taylor Mays 6'3" 230 4.43 USC
8 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers
9 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.46 Florida St
10 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.45 Fresno St.
11 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
12 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
13 CB Kareem Jackson 5'11" 196 4.46 Alabama
14 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
15 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
16 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
17 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
18 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295 4.95 California
19 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
20 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
21 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
22 OT Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
23 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
24 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 4.46 Virginia
25 FS Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 4.54 Georgia Tech
26 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue
27 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 Indiana (Pa)
28 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
29 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.22 Baylor
30 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
31 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.18 Central Florida
32 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 4.72 Central Michigan
33 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
34 LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St
35 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
36 RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo
37 DE Lindsey Witten 6'4" 248 4.73 Connecticut
38 CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC
39 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 4.71 Iowa
40 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
41 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
42 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
43 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
44 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.45 Vanderbilt
45 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame
46 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky
47 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham
48 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St.
49 LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota
50 DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 Arizona
51 FS Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 4.63 Oklahoma
52 RB Joique Bell 5'11" 220 4.68 Wayne St
53 OG Shawn Lauvao 6'3" 315 5.22 Arizona St
54 OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State
55 LB Kavell Conner 6'1" 242 4.63 Clemson
56 OC Joe Hawley 6'3" 297 5.21 UNLV
57 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
58 CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson
59 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214 4.59 Maryland
60 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky

kRocket

04-04-2010, 06:12 PM

We wouldn't have much luck without Andre. The same could be said about most teams losing their best player. If at some point, Dre becomes injured or is a Free Agent that we can no longer keep, then we will probably draft a WR in the first round. Right now, we just have to keep our fingers crossed that Dre stays healthy and happy. The team wouldn't have much luck if Ryans or Schaub went down either, but we can't really draft their counterparts either.
We are going to have trouble ever becoming a championship team if we don't develop players before the need actually arises. There is pretty good evidence already that Dre isn't all that happy and wants to play for a team that has a chance at a ring. I can't blame him really.

I look at the NE Patriots. They can lose important players and have someone waiting in the wings to come forward. Welker goes down and Edelman fills in well. Their QB hits the dirt and Cassel (sp?) comes to the rescue. They have been able to acquire first round choices by trading off good players and having just as good players waiting to take their place. Having a 1.A and 1.B WR on the team is required as far as I am concerned until he is used or traded. AD might still be tradable or keep him another year.

Roy P

04-04-2010, 11:35 PM

Having a 1.A and 1.B WR on the team is required as far as I am concerned until he is used or traded. AD might still be tradable or keep him another year.

Okay, here is the guy. Look for #88.

Stephen Williams WR Toledo 6-5 210 4.50 15 36 1/2 2.52 1.48 10'05" 4.11 6.81

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehMxI_i61xE

kRocket

04-05-2010, 10:05 AM

Roy:

As usual, you trumped me. Yes, he looks very good, length, speed, and athleticism. Not sure about his routes, but his hands look decent. NFL Draft Scout lists him at number 40 out of 400+ receivers. Project him into the 7th round or UFA. I doubt he would ever be a #1 receiver but you never know. Plaxico Burress is about that size and he did pretty well until his head exploded.

Roy P

04-11-2010, 11:48 AM

1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 4.40 Tennessee
2 OG Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma
3 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas
4 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee
5 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
6 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
7 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers
8 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.45 Fresno St.

9 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
10 FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
11 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.46 Florida St
12 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
13 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
14 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295 4.95 California
15 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
16 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
17 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas

18 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
19 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
20 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
21 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
22 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
23 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
24 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 Indiana (Pa)
25 DT Torrell Troup 6' 3" 314 5.18 Central Florida
26 FS Chris Cook 6'2" 210 4.46 Virginia
27 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.22 Baylor

28 QB Dan LeFevour 6'3" 226 4.72 Central Michigan
29 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
30 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
31 CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC
32 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue
33 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 4.69 Mississippi St
34 LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St
35 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky
36 RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo

37 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.45 Vanderbilt
38 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
39 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
40 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
41 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
42 LB Pat Angerer 6'0" 235 4.71 Iowa
43 QB John Skelton 6'5" 245 4.88 Fordham
44 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame
45 RB Andre Anderson 5'11" 212 4.54 Tulane
46 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St.
47 CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson
48 FS Brian Jackson 6'1" 202 4.60 Oklahoma
49 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
50 DE Lindsey Witten 6'4" 248 4.73 Connecticut
51 CB Walter McFadden 5'11" 181 4.40 Auburn
52 RB Deji Karim 5'9" 209 4.40 S. Illinois
53 WR Stephen Williams 6'5" 210 4.51 Toledo
54 OG Shawn Lauvao 6'3" 315 5.22 Arizona St

55 DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 Arizona
56 LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota
57 RB Andre Dixon 6'1" 205 4.56 Connecticut
58 RB Joique Bell 5'11" 220 4.68 Wayne St
59 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky
60 OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State
61 CB Joshua Moore 5'11" 188 4.50 Kansas St
62 OC Joe Hawley 6'3" 297 5.21 UNLV

63 FS Terrell Skinner 6'2" 214 4.59 Maryland
64 OC John Estes 6'2" 295 5.22 Hawaii
65 FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 4.52 Texas Tech
66 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 4.54 Indiana
67 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina
68 WR Scott Long 6'2" 216 4.46 Louisville
69 s Kyle McCarthy 6'0" 205 4.58 Notre Dame
70 P Mike Brandtner 6'1" 202 4.94 Iowa St

Roy P

04-17-2010, 11:18 PM

The board is down to 60. As much as I like LeFevour and Skelton, I've decided to not draft a QB this year. I've also decided to add C.J. Spiller since there are conversations out there that he could fall to #20. He's not was we need, but he'd be the BPA most likely if he makes it to me. So, without further ado.....

1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 4.40 Tennessee
2 OG Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma
3 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee
4 RB C.J. Spiller 5'11" 196 4.27 Clemson
5 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas
6 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
7 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
8 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers
9 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.45 Fresno St.

10 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.46 Florida St
11 FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
12 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
13 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
14 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
15 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
16 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
17 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 South Florida
18 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
19 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295 4.95 California
20 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
21 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech

22 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
23 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
24 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 IUP
25 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
26 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
27 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 4.69 Miss St
28 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.22 Baylor
29 DT Torrell Troup 6'3" 314 5.18 Central Florida

30 CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC
31 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
32 RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo
33 LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St
34 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
35 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue
36 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.45 Vanderbilt
37 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
38 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky
39 CB Walter McFadden 5'11" 181 4.40 Auburn
40 OG Shawn Lauvao 6'3" 315 5.22 Arizona St

41 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St.
42 DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 Arizona
43 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame
44 S Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah
45 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
46 RB Joique Bell 5'11" 220 4.68 Wayne St
47 OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State
48 LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota

49 RB Deji Karim 5'9" 209 4.40 S. Illinois
50 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky
51 RB Andre Anderson 5'11" 212 4.54 Tulane
52 CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson
53 OC Joe Hawley 6'3" 297 5.21 UNLV
54 RB Andre Dixon 6'1" 205 4.56 Connecticut
55 WR Stephen Williams 6'5" 210 4.51 Toledo
56 WR Scott Long 6'2" 216 4.46 Louisville

57 FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 4.52 Texas Tech
58 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina
59 S Nick Polk 5'11" 213 4.54 Indiana
60 P Mike Brandtner 6'1" 202 4.94 Iowa St

Roy P

04-18-2010, 10:30 PM

Just found some video of a few of my favorite players in this draft. Linval Joseph is a Big Body that can rotate with S. Cody at the NT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFTupdBOe7o&feature=related

Ben Tate is my favorite RB, but I wonder if he's still there in the 3rd round. I may just have to take him at #50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfBkonPBFGY

Alterraun Verner and Crezdon Butler as CB on the 3rd day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cZbjLR1l_c&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhQucP7DjYE
DANIEL TE'O-NESHEIM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmv0jJqpYMg

I almost forgot my FS Robert Johnson...

http://www.youtube.com/user/PremierSportsEnt#p/f/3/j_ourKzKOnY

Keith

04-18-2010, 11:45 PM

Ben Tate is my favorite RB, but I wonder if he's still there in the 3rd round. I may just have to take him at #50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfBkonPBFGY

NFLDraftScout.com has some vids up on CBSSports.com too.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2010_RB

I'll admit I'm a bit late to the party, but Tate really jumps off the page for me. Explosive, powerful runner with speed. The combo of speed/strength stats make Tate look like a buy in the 2nd round for me.

I'll also add that I like Montario Hardesty in this area as well. Concerned about his injury history a little, but he seemed to put it together last year. Regardless, having these two available in the 2nd round ought to make it easier to not force a pick in the first I hope.

Roy P

04-19-2010, 12:27 PM

Tate really jumps off the page for me. Explosive, powerful runner with speed. The combo of speed/strength stats make Tate look like a buy in the 2nd round for me.

Regardless, having these two available in the 2nd round ought to make it easier to not force a pick in the first I hope.

I like McCourty & Tate more than I like Mathews & Ghee. Just sayin'....

Roy P

04-20-2010, 11:51 AM

I like McCourty & Tate more than I like Mathews & Ghee. Just sayin'....

Ok, maybe I'll rethink that line of thinking.....If there were just a CB in the first round that I could really get behind and say, "that's the guy we need!" I'm just afraid we are going to draft the next Carlos Rogers or Aaron Ross instead of the next 5-Time Pro-Bowler.

Roy P

04-20-2010, 02:48 PM

There are two players that I'd like to compare before the draft....I'll call them M and T.

M - 55 Tackles, 18.5 Tackles For Loss, 12.5 Sacks.
T - 65 Tackles, 14 Tackles For Loss, 11 Sacks.

M - 6' 3", 266lbs, 4.77 - 40 yard dash, 1.60 - 10 yard split
T - 6' 3.5", 267lbs, 4.72 - 40 yard dash, 1.61 - 10 yard split

M - His career totals include 29.5 tackles-for-loss, 19.5 sacks, six fumbles recovered and five pass break-ups.
T - 194 tackles, 47 tackles for loss and as the school's all-time leader with 30 career sacks.

Derrick Morgan is considered to be a top 10 pick.
Daniel Te'o-Nesheim is considered to be a 4th or 5th round pick.

I'm just trying to understand the value here. I will be following these two players for the next 3 years to see which one produces more 'bang for the buck' at the next level. I find it interesting that USC players get graded "evenly" while the other Pac-10 schools get downgraded when compared to East Coast counterparts. Gerhart is getting some bias against him and he played AGAINST USC defenses and broke tackles against Clay Mathews and Brian Cushing. There is the C.J. Spiller vs. Jahvid Best arguments too so, I'm hopeful that it's East vs. West bias and not racism. Maybe I should put Jahvid on my draftboard, since I've added Spiller here recently.

Because Best has a history of concussions, I'd put him after Mathews and above Patrick Robinson.

Roy P

04-20-2010, 09:07 PM

With only the first round happening, I'm just going to list my top 20. I'll readjust the draftboard after round one is in the books. I've got some late-comers on the board and some guys I kicked off are back on.

1 S Eric Berry 5'11" 203 4.40 Tennessee
2 OG Trent Williams 6'5" 315 4.88 Oklahoma
3 DT Dan Williams 6'3" 327 5.17 Tennessee
4 RB C.J. Spiller 5'11" 196 4.27 Clemson
5 S Earl Thomas 5'10" 195 4.44 Texas
6 CB Joe Haden 5'11" 190 4.42 Florida
7 LB Sean Weatherspoon 6'1" 245 4.68 Missouri
8 CB Kyle Wilson 5'10" 185 4.42 Boise St
9 CB Devin McCourty 5'11" 186 4.48 Rutgers
10 CB Kareem Jackson 5'11" 196 4.46 Alabama
11 RB Ryan Matthews 5'11" 220 4.45 Fresno St.
12 RB Jahvid Best 5'10" 199 4.34 California
13 CB Patrick Robinson 5'11" 194 4.46 Florida St
14 CB Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
15 DT Jared Odrick 6'4" 305 4.98 Penn St
16 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
17 DT Tyson Alualu 6'3" 295 4.95 California
18 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
19 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
20 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois

Roy P

04-21-2010, 08:34 PM

21 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
22 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
23 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
24 FS Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 4.54 Georgia Tech
25 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
26 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
27 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
28 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 IUP
29 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
30 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
31 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 5.32 North Carolina

32 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
33 DT Torrell Troup 6'3" 314 5.18 Central Florida
34 RB Anthony Dixon 6'1" 235 4.69 Miss St
35 CB Kevin Thomas 6'0" 192 4.41 USC
36 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
37 OC JD Walton 6'3" 305 5.22 Baylor
38 FS Myron Lewis 6'2" 205 4.45 Vanderbilt
39 DT Mike Neal 6'3" 294 4.89 Purdue
40 RB James Starks 6' 2" 218 4.50 Buffalo
41 OG Shawn Lauvao 6'3" 315 5.22 Arizona St

42 LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St
43 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
44 LB Rennie Curran 5'11" 225 4.72 Georgia
45 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
46 CB Walter McFadden 5'11" 181 4.40 Auburn
47 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
48 FS Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah

49 DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 Arizona
50 OC Eric Olsen 6'4" 306 5.26 Notre Dame
52 CB Trevard Lindley 5'11" 180 4.53 Kentucky
53 CB Donovan Warren 6'0" 185 4.67 Michigan
54 CB AJ Jefferson 6'0" 193 4.49 Fresno St.
55 DT Corey Peters 6'3" 295 5.02 Kentucky
56 S Myron Rolle 6' 2" 211 4.70 Florida St
57 OG Shelley Smith 6'3" 300 5.03 Colorado State
58 RB Lonyae Miller 5'11" 220 4.52 Fresno St.
59 RB Joique Bell 5'11" 220 4.68 Wayne St
60 RB Deji Karim 5'9" 209 4.40 S. Illinois

61 CB Crezdon Butler 6'0" 191 4.54 Clemson
61 CB Syd'Quan Thompson 5'9" 182 4.62 California
62 LB Simoni Lawrence 6'1" 232 4.59 Minnesota
63 WR Scott Long 6'2" 216 4.46 Louisville
64 OC Joe Hawley 6'3" 297 5.21 UNLV
65 RB Andre Dixon 6'1" 205 4.56 Connecticut
66 RB Andre Anderson 5'11" 212 4.54 Tulane
67 FS Jamar Wall 5'10" 204 4.52 Texas Tech
68 DT Jay Ross 6'3" 317 5.15 East Carolina
69 WR Stephen Williams 6'5" 210 4.51 Toledo
70 P Mike Brandtner 6'1" 202 4.94 Iowa St

Roy P

04-22-2010, 10:02 PM

At #20 the Texans selected:

20 CB Kareem Jackson 5'11" 196 4.46 Alabama

These are my guys for the 2nd round......

1 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
2 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
3 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
4 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
5 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
6 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
7 FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
8 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
9 FS Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 4.54 Georgia Tech
10 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
11 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
12 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
13 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
14 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
15 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
16 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 IUP
17 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 5.32 North Carolina

Roy P

04-23-2010, 09:18 PM

I know we drafted Earl Mitchell, but I still want Geno Atkins. Cam Thomas could replace Frank Okam. Plenty of DBs and some LBs.

27 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
28 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 IUP
31 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
32 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 5.32 North Carolina
36 CB Alterraun Verner 5'10" 185 4.52 UCLA
42 LB Dekoda Watson 6'3" 226 4.55 Florida St
43 LB Jamar Chaney 6'1" 240 4.51 Mississippi St
45 OG Marshall Newhouse 6'3" 326 5.00 TCU
46 CB Walter McFadden 5'11" 181 4.40 Auburn
47 LB AJ Edds 6'4" 246 4.71 Iowa
48 FS Robert Johnson 6'2" 200 4.52 Utah

Keith

04-23-2010, 09:34 PM

I'll admit I'm a bit late to the party, but Tate really jumps off the page for me. Explosive, powerful runner with speed. The combo of speed/strength stats make Tate look like a buy in the 2nd round for me.

Like Babe Ruth calling his shot... :p

I'm excited to see Slaton, Tate, and Foster in the backfield. If Slaton can return to 2008 form and Foster improves on how he finished, look out...

Roy P

04-23-2010, 09:42 PM

Ben Tate is my favorite RB, but I wonder if he's still there in the 3rd round. I may just have to take him at #50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfBkonPBFGY

We traded down from #50 got an extra pick and still got my guy. Yeah, I'm stoked.

Roy P

04-23-2010, 09:44 PM

-------------------------------Explosion-----Quickness----Athleticism
2 RB Ben Tate 76.83 12.52 6.14
36 CB Kareem Jackson 60.32 12.59 4.79
47 DT Earl Mitchell 62.42 13.79 4.53

Explosion = Reps + Vert + Broad Jump
Quickness = 10yard + Shuttle + Cone
Athleticism = Explosion/Quickness

Well, at least we got some guys that are athletic AND have talent. :D

kRocket

04-23-2010, 09:57 PM

Hey Roy:

Now that we have some extra picks, can we draft Joe Webb?

Roy P

04-23-2010, 10:13 PM

SI.com had Earl Mitchell ranked higher than Geno Atkins. Maybe they know something....

http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b3Q10

They like Cam Thomas 2.83, Carlton Mitchell 2.83, Alterraun Verner 2.82, Jamar Chaney 2.69, Joe Webb 2.66, AJ Edds 2.64, Newhouse 2.6, Stuckey 2.58

Nconroe

04-23-2010, 10:15 PM

A few guys who might be there on OL are-not sure if any could switch to OG?
Campbell, Bruce OT 6'6" 314 Maryland, might be a value pick
Capers, Selvish OT 6'4" 308 West Virginia athletic
Ulatoski, Adam OT 6'5" 300 Texas needs to develop
Washington, Tony OT 6'6" 311 Abilene Christian good size, long arms
Scott, Chris OT 6'4" 319 Tennessee road grader in SEC
Calloway, Kyle OT 6'6" 323 Iowa perhaps ok at right guard

and a few DB's to consider - lot of good athletes, may take a year to dev
Franks, Dominique CB 5'11" 194 Oklahoma athletic, possible safety
Owusu-Ansah, Akwasi CB 6'0" 207 Indiana (PA) fast, possible safety
Warren, Donovan CB 5'11" 193 Michigan versatile, possible safety
Cox, Perrish CB 5'11" 195 Oklahoma State ball skills
Jones, Reshad SS 6'1" 214 Georgia big, tackler
Asante, Larry SS 6'0" 212 Nebraska aggressive tackler
Chancellor, Kam FS 6'3" 231 Virginia Tech size, strength, productive