View Full Version : Official Texans vs. Titans Game Thread, 11/23/2009
Keith
11-23-2009, 12:14 PM
Monday Night Football!
Discuss the pre-game, in-game, and post-game in this thread.
I hope we push loud mouth Bullocks words right back down his throat.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 02:05 PM
Tonight is Battle Red Night...right?
Yes, tonight is Battle Red Night.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 02:40 PM
Hell yeah!
Should be an entertaining game.... The Texans can beat anyone if they play clean.... The only team that can beat the Texans is the Texans..
Frankly, I hope we see a lot of this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WPQzqLib9Y) tonight....
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 04:30 PM
What pisses me off is that our team could EASILY be 8-1. A goal line fumble away from beating Jacksoffville, a goal line failure away from OT against Arizona, about six inches away from OT against Indianapolis.
Yep, thats the difference between 8-1 and 5-4.
Whatever, that's all behind us. We hold our own fate. Take care of business, whoop some ass like we know we CAN do, and get a win tonight. That's really all that matters. Limit mistakes, stretch the field, get Slaton going in screen passes, etc.
Texans in the red jersey/white pants combo tonight....
Titans win the flip and defer.... Texans to receive.
AD brings the kickoff back to the Texan 37.
1st down pass to AJ over the middle goes inc.
Pass to Casey good for 1.
On 3rd down, Schaub sacked -2. Texans to punt.
Titans fair catch at their own 19.
CJ for 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.
CJ for 1. 3rd and 6 coming up.
Pass to Hawkins good for the 1st down but flag on the play. Illegal shift Titans -5. Repeat 3rd down.
Screen is sniffed out by Cushing -5. Titans to punt.
Nice runback by Martinez on the punt brings the ball back into Titan territory @ the 36.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 07:47 PM
Incredible play by Cush!
Pass to AJ good for 15 and a 1st down.
C Brown for 2 Chippiness breaks out...
Dump to C Brown good for 7. Ball at the 12 - 3rd and 1.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 07:52 PM
Dirty ass Titans dude
Pass to KW good for 6. 1st and goal at the 5.
False start on C White -5. Ball at the 10.
C Brown goes around end for 5. 2nd and goal at the 5.
C Brown for 2. 3rd and goal at the 3.
Shovel to Slaton who sneaks it in!
Texans 7, Titans 0
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 07:56 PM
Shovel pass to Slaton for a TD! YEAH!
Nconroe
11-23-2009, 07:57 PM
nice impressive start to the game. yehah!
Shovel pass to Slaton for a TD! YEAH!
Nice running by SS - kept the legs going....
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 07:58 PM
I'd kill for a Pick Six here.
barrett
11-23-2009, 07:59 PM
We still can't score on the opening possession, but the defense stole the momentum for us and the offense stuck it in the endzone.
Huge drive. The Titans are not the same team from behind.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 08:00 PM
We HAVE to force VY to make some mistakes here.
Texans kickoff and Titans only can bring it out to the 14.
Pass to Washington good for 14. 1st down.
1st down pass goes inc.
CJ good for 6. 3rd and 4 coming up.
GQ breaks up the 3rd down pass. Titans to punt.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 08:04 PM
Quinn with PI AND holding on that.
Martinez fields the punt and is tackled immediately. Holding on Texans on the punt puts the ball all the way back to the Texan 8.
1st down pass is deflected inc.
Schaub hits KW for 27. Ball at the Texan 35.
Slaton for about 5. Brings up 2nd and 5.
Slaton for 9 and the 1st down. Ball at the Texans 49.
Leach is down.
Leach limps off the field.
Schaub nearly sacked but gets away to pass inc. to AJ.
Dump to C Brown good for 5. 3rd and 5 coming up.
3rd down pass downfield goes inc. Texans to punt.
Turk puts it into the endzone so Titans ball at the 20.
Pass good to Britt for 21 but flag on the play. Illegal contact on D-Rob. 5 yards. Pass is ruled inc. Still 1st down.
CJ for 3. 2nd and 7.
VY's deep pass to Washington off his hands inc. 3rd and 7 coming up.
Pass to Scaife good for 15. 1st down.
CJ for about 6. Ball at the Titan 47.
Timeout Titans 1 sec before the quarter ends.
Option to CJ good for about 17 but flag on the play. No foul ruled.
End of 1st quarter.
Pass to Britt good for 15. Ball at the Texan 21.
CJ for 4. Ball at the 17.
CJ for 3 more. 3rd and 3 coming up.
Pass to Britt is good for the TD.
Texans 7, Titans 7
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 08:27 PM
C'mon guys. We're getting what we want. The D is killing the run, but you're letting them pass all over you instead?
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 08:29 PM
Thats the second time Dunta was beat one on one.
AD brings the kickoff all the way back to the Texan 40.
Dump to AJ good for 2. 2nd and 8 coming up.
C Brown for 7. 3rd and 1 coming up.
Pass to DA in the flat good for 5 and the 1st down.
C Brown TFL -2. Ball at the Titan 49. 2nd and 12 coming up.
Titan's Griffin shaken up... injury timeout.
Schaub sacked -7. 3rd and 19 coming up.
Schaub sacked again -3. Texans to punt.
Titans fair catch at their own 16.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 08:39 PM
Studdard just left Vandenbosh uncovered to go double with DBrown.
MISTAKE
VY nearly sacked but scrambles for 2.
Cushing stops CJ for no gain. 3rd and 8 coming up.
Timeout Titans.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 08:43 PM
Cushing is a beast!!
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 08:44 PM
CUSH with the stop!
False start offense. 3rd and 12.
Cushing stops CJ for no gain. Titans to punt.
Martinez fair catches at the Texan 41.
Schaub's 1st down pass to Casey goes inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Slaton for about 7. 3rd and 3 coming up.
Big pass to Casey goes to the 19! 32 yards on the play.
Pass to KW good for 5. 2nd and 5 coming up.
C Brown for 2. 3rd and 3 from the 12 coming up.
Schaub floats one in to AJ for the TD!
Texans 14, Titans 7
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 08:51 PM
That boy Dre' can't be stopped.
HPF Bob
11-23-2009, 08:51 PM
Strange Fact of the Night:
Titans punter Brett Kern is undefeated this season.
He was 6-0 with Denver before he was released and 3-0 with Tennessee since he was signed.
If that wasn't odd enough, Tennessee was 0-6 before they signed Kern and Denver is 0-4 since Kern left.
Titans bring the kickoff back to the 25.
CJ for 1.
Pass goes for 8. Brings up 3rd and 1.
CJ for 4 gets the 1st down at the Titan 39.
2 minute warning.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 08:57 PM
Nice tackling.
popanot
11-23-2009, 08:58 PM
Here we go again making POS QB look great. :mad:
Texans had CJ bottled up but he breaks loose for 36.
Pass to Crumpler picks up another 1st down at the Texan 15.
White for 3. Timeout Texans.
VY scrambles to the 1.
Texans take another timeout. 54 secs left in the half.
White punches it in.
Texans 14, Titans 14
50 seconds left in the half.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 09:02 PM
So if Cushing isnt making a tackle, no one is?
Did you see CJohnson drop step ZDiles?
AD brings the kickoff back to the 25.
Dump to Slaton good for 6.
Pass to DA puts the ball at the Texan 41. 1st down. 19 seconds left in the half.
Pass to Slaton only good for 5. Clock runs out.
Halftime.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 09:05 PM
That's f'n BS!
Halftime stats:
Passing: Schaub 15/20, 140 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT
Rushing: Slaton 3/21, C Brown 6/16
Receiving: KW 3/40, AJ 3/29, Slaton 3/14, Casey 2/33, C Brown 2/12, DA 2/12
Tackles: Cushing 6, Wilson/Diles 4 each, many with 2
3rd down conversions: Texans 5/8, Titans 3/6
Turnovers: Texans 0, Titans 0
Time of possession: Texans 15:53, Titans 14:07
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 09:14 PM
Is it me or does it seem like ESPN is lookin past this game to the NO/NE game?
Maybe I'm paranoid.
Texans kickoff. Titans bring it out to the 24.
CJ for no gain. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Scaife good for 27. 1st down.
CJ for 2. Ball at the Texan 46.
Jeezus, Cushing taps VY running out of bounds and draws the flag. 15 yards. Ball at the Texan 28.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 09:21 PM
Stop the passing!
popanot
11-23-2009, 09:22 PM
WTF! Is anyone supposed to be covering these? We're making VY look like a f'ing Pro Bowler.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 09:23 PM
That's what you GET for that BS personal foul.
VY scrambles for 10 but FUMBLE! Texans recover!
Diles knocks it out... Whew!, needed that one. Titans were rollin'.....
Texans ball at their 16.
HPF Bob
11-23-2009, 09:26 PM
Is it me or does it seem like ESPN is lookin past this game to the NO/NE game?
It's not just you. This game must be a ratings dog outside of Texas and Tennessee. Of course, after Ravens-Browns last week, ESPN is due for a break.
1st down pass goes through AJ's hands.
C Brown for about 4. Brings up 3rd and 6.
Dump to Slaton gets just enough for the 1st down. Ball at the Texan 26.
Schaub hit Dreesen over the middle for 23. Ball near midfield.
popanot
11-23-2009, 09:30 PM
You know your running is fk'd up when you're counting on Chris Brown to carry the load. :rolleyes:
Dump to Leach picks up about 15.
C Brown for 1. Ball at the Titan 36. 2nd and 9 coming up.
Dump to C Brown picks up about 5. 3rd and 4 coming up.
Pass over the middle to Casey goes inc.
K Brown on for the FG.
Oh, 49 yarder is no good. :(
Titans ball.
popanot
11-23-2009, 09:32 PM
These guys are playing just bad enough to lose this game.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 09:33 PM
I think we need to be using Slaton more.
And let's hope Kris Brown is not back to not being rock solid.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 09:33 PM
WTF.
The once always reliable Kris Brown is upsetting me.
I dont have much patience for kickers.
Titans ball at their 40.
CJ for 6. Wilson down on the play but walks off.
Good lord, D-Rob blows the gift wrap INT...
On 3rd and 4, VY scrambles for 6 and the 1st down.
CJ TFL -1 by A Smith. 2nd and 11 coming up.
CJ for 4. 3rd and 9 coming up.
VY scrambles for another 1st down.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 09:38 PM
Stop this running punk.
Ball at the Texan 35.
CJ for 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.
CJ for 2. 3rd down and 5 coming up.
This time Pollard gets VY TFL -3. Titans to go for the FG.
50 yd FG is good.
Titans 17, Texans 14
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 09:41 PM
Jeez, I hate Rob Bironas.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 09:41 PM
F'in Kris Brown.
Thats how you make a field goal.
2:49 left in the 3rd quarter.
Leach brings the short kickoff back to the Texan 34.
popanot
11-23-2009, 09:44 PM
Did I mention how DRob completely sucks this year? If he's not getting burnt or getting a penalty, he's dropping easy INTs. A-hole! Good luck getting your $$$ next year, chump!
C Brown around end for 3.
C Brown up the gut for 6. 3rd and 1 coming up.
Schaub hits AJ for big gainer! 49 yards.
Ball inside the 10.
Slaton for no gain. 2nd and goal.
Schaub pressured - throws inc. 3rd and goal from the 8 coming up.
3rd down pass goes inc. Texans to go for the FG.
K Brown good on the 26 yarder.
Texans 17, Titans 17.
Shut'em down defense.....
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 09:52 PM
Shaub missed an open Casey on 2nd down. Then a bad screen throw. We cant afford the F' ups right now.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 09:53 PM
Interesting Stat: DRyans 1 tackle
End of 3rd quarter.
Titans bring the kickoff back to their 33.
Pass to Hall good for 4. 2nd and 6 coming up.
VY scrambles for 10. 1st down.
CJ for 4.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 09:56 PM
Can we stop this punk? Now would be a good freakin' time.
Ball at midfield.
Dump to Scaife about 1 yard short of a 1st down. 3rd and 1.
3rd down pass goes inc. but flags on the play. Holding defense, personal foul defense - both against the Texans. Ball at the Texan 30.
CJ stopped for no gain.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 09:59 PM
Antonio Smith, you MORON.
False start Titans. 2nd and 14 coming up.
CJ for 3. 3rd and 11 coming up.
3rd pass is broken up. Titans to go for the FG....
49 yard attempt is no good!
Texans ball.
popanot
11-23-2009, 10:03 PM
Now put in the g'damn endzone!!!!!
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:04 PM
BRICK!!!!!
Come on offense. Lets get in the damn endzone. NO TURNOVERS MATT!!!!PLEASE
Ball at the Texan 39.
C Brown for about 5.
Schaub sacked -9. 3rd and 14 coming up.
Pass is deflected and nearly INT'ed so the Texans have to punt.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 10:07 PM
Get rid of the ball, Schaub? Who are you, the other #8?
Waste of a missed FG by Bironas.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:08 PM
Are you serious? What the hell was that? 3 good for nothing plays.
I bet the defense is like this is some bullsh*t.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:09 PM
Our interior line is terrible. Shaub should know that by now. Run or get rid of the ball. Stop gettin sacked. Thats 4.
Punt is fair caught by the Titans at their 10.
CJ for 2. 2nd and 8 coming up.
VY scrambles for a 1st down at the 23.
Pass to Crumpler good for about 7. 2nd and 3 coming up.
CJ gets about 5 and the 1st down. 6:44 left in the game.
CJ for 2.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 10:12 PM
We're losing this game.
2nd down pass goes inc. 3rd and 7 coming up.
VY nearly sacked. Titans have to punt.
Titans try a trick play on the punt but get called for delay of game..... Texans get a break.
Titans punt it away this time....
Martinez brings the punt back to the 33 but flag on the play..... 5:14 left in the game. 2 on the Texans -10 yarder is accepted. Backs the ball up to the Texan 9.
1st down pass to AJ is broken up.
Pass to DA good for 15. Ball at the Texan 24.
Slaton takes the dump for 22. Ball at the Texan 47.
Slaton for no gain. Under 4 minutes left in the game.
Schaub throws deep over the middle for AJ and ball is nearly INT'ed.... 3rd and 10 coming up.
Oh no, Slaton drops the pass.
Texans to punt.
Titans fair catch at their own 5.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 10:23 PM
Any guesses on how long Bironas' game-winner will be?
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:24 PM
Again, our interior line sucks!!!
1 split second more and AJ catches that pass across the middle. No Albert Haynsworth and you cant even tell.
Any guesses on how long Bironas' game-winner will be?
They got a long way to go...... Maybe we can catch them getting greedy.....
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:25 PM
Any guesses on how long Bironas' game-winner will be?
Any guess on how many rushing yards Vince is gonna have?
Busing stops CJ but gets called for a horse-collar tackle. Bad call.... 15 yarder....
Offsides Titans -5. 1st and 15.
Big gainer by CJ. 22 yards and a 1st down. Ball at the Titan 41.
Titans let the clock run down to the 2 minute warning.
popanot
11-23-2009, 10:28 PM
This is BS!!! The Fing G has his arms wrapped around Okoye and they don't call it, but call the bogus horsecollar!
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:29 PM
So they get a free 15 yards?
Then CJohnson breaks out. Wow. Wonder what they say on 610 tomorrow. Look for run, run, playaction (Vince keeper).
CJ for 7.
2nd down pass goes inc. 3rd and 3 coming up.
Last play under review .... I think they are going to give it to him (a catch)..
popanot
11-23-2009, 10:33 PM
I'm constantly amazed at how no one on our offense can step up and make a play when the game is on the line. Schaub is certainly no last-minute QB.
1:17 left in the game.
Ruling on the field stands. 3rd and 3 coming up.
VY scrambles for the 1st down....
popanot
11-23-2009, 10:35 PM
Are you fking kidding me!!!??
1st down pass goes inc. 1:03 left in the game.
2nd down pass goes inc. 3rd down 10.
Pass to Britt goes for about 5. Texans call timeout. Titans to go for the field goal with 52 seconds left.
53 yarder is good.
Titans 20, Texans 17
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:39 PM
I'm constantly amazed at how no one on our offense can step up and make a play when the game is on the line. Schaub is certainly no last-minute QB.
I agree. There is nothing that I have seen from him that lets me think we can even get into field goal range.
popanot
11-23-2009, 10:40 PM
Jesus! When the hell is this team going grow the fk up?
popanot
11-23-2009, 10:41 PM
How about scoring a TD here?
47 seconds left in the game. Texans with 2 timeouts.
Leach fields the kickoff and runs it out of bounds at the Texan 38.
Pass to DA good for 11. 1st down.
Pass to DA good for 14. Timeout Texans. Ball at the Titan 38. 21 seconds left.
Pass to KW good puts the ball at the Titan 31.
Schaub spikes it. 8 secs. left.
Schaub centers the ball on the field for no gain. K Brown on for the 48 yard FG. 6 secs left.
Oh no, K Brown shanks it. 1 sec left.
Titans down the ball.
Final Score:
Titans 20, Texans 17
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:43 PM
Oh my God. KBrown this is for redemption.
popanot
11-23-2009, 10:43 PM
Oh brother... Here we go...
popanot
11-23-2009, 10:44 PM
Time to look for a K. You suck, Brown!!
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:44 PM
Release this bastard tonight.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:45 PM
F' loyalty.
HPF Bob
11-23-2009, 10:45 PM
Bad time for the split screen there.
Texans are four plays from possibly being 9-1.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 10:45 PM
I want to drive off a cliff.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:46 PM
I don't wanna hear, "its not all Kris' fault" F that. He F'ed up two games in a row. Get rid of this bastard.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:48 PM
I agree he was one of our most consistent producers, but its time for him to go. As a kicker you only have one job. Besides missing the game winner, he missed two tonight. He has overstayed his welcome.
Dennis2112
11-23-2009, 10:48 PM
I am sick of losing.
It will never end.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:49 PM
Now they wanna blame it on Kubiak's call. F that. It was Kris Brown missing 2 freakin FG
bckey
11-23-2009, 10:49 PM
You have to cut him. He has cost us 2 games and killed our playoff chances.
popanot
11-23-2009, 10:52 PM
It may not show record-wise, but right now we're the worst team in the AFC South - again!! The Colts are waaay better than us, the Jags are better, and the Titans are rising and we're going downhill. Nice job, fellas. No playoffs this year unless the grow some balls and beat the Colts. Yeah, and Santa's going to bring me a shiny new Corvette for X-Mas...
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 10:52 PM
It may not show record-wise, but right now we're the worst team in the AFC South. The Colts are waaay better than us, the Jags are better, and the Titans are rising and we're going downhill. Nice job, fellas. No playoffs this year unless the grow some balls and beat the Colts.
100% agree.
A fumble away from beating the Jags.
A yard away from forcing OT against the Cardinals.
Six inches from forcing OT against the Colts.
35 feet from forcing OT against the Titans.
This team could easily be 9-1. Instead, we're 5-5. That's demoralizing. This shit's over.
Eeesh, that's a tough loss.....
I'm going to find something constructive to do with my time this week and pretty much stay away from the message boards and the ignorance that will pour forthwith...
Colts are in town Sunday....:rolleyes:
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 10:55 PM
After everything we still should have won this game. I put the blame on Kris. He missed 2 FG's. Our offense and defense did well enough for us to win. KBrown did not do his part.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 10:56 PM
I was heartbroken after the Colts loss.
I'm angry and sick after this one.
Dennis2112
11-23-2009, 10:56 PM
There is plenty of fault to go around.
Good teams find a way to win games like that.
We find a way to lose...every time, every year, every opportunity.
The curse will not stop. I have waited 40 years and there is no end in sight.
I am normally a positive person but I just can't bring myself to do it again.
Hard fought game...blah, blah, blah
Tough opponent...blah, blah, blah
Showed heart...blah, blah, blah
Sell it somewhere else...
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 11:00 PM
It does not matter who we face at QB, we make them look like Hall of Famers.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 11:02 PM
It is so funny to hear these analysts talk about Vince. However, these were the same one's saying he was terrible just last year. They are a bunch of band wagoners.
painekiller
11-23-2009, 11:04 PM
There is plenty of fault to go around.
Good teams find a way to win games like that.
We find a way to lose...every time, every year, every opportunity.
The curse will not stop. I have waited 40 years and there is no end in sight.
I am normally a positive person but I just can't bring myself to do it again.
Hard fought game...blah, blah, blah
Tough opponent...blah, blah, blah
Showed heart...blah, blah, blah
Sell it somewhere else...
All I can say is I agree.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 11:04 PM
We are gonna lose to Indy, Miami, and probably NE's backups. Here we come 8-8. Kubiak gets fired. We bring in another scrub coach who changes up the system. We start all over again and suck another 8 years...
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 11:07 PM
We are gonna lose to Indy, Miami, and probably NE's backups. Here we come 8-8. Kubiak gets fired. We bring in another scrub coach who changes up the system. We start all over again and suck another 8 years...
I think we go 7-9. This team is demoralized.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 11:08 PM
Everyone is talking as if they just kicked our ass. Nobody is talking about the real reasons we loss: Kris freakin Brown.
Big Texas
11-23-2009, 11:11 PM
I'd hate to be KBrown tonight.
TheMatrix31
11-23-2009, 11:11 PM
Everyone is talking as if they just kicked our ass. Nobody is talking about the real reasons we loss: Kris freakin Brown.
The game should not have come down to a field goal. The blame falls on the defense and defensive coordinator for failing to recognize Vince Young's third down bullshit.
Dennis2112
11-23-2009, 11:16 PM
Everyone is talking as if they just kicked our ass. Nobody is talking about the real reasons we loss: Kris freakin Brown.
Brown is just one small slice of this giant, under-achieving turd-pie of a team.
The real problem is we are WAY more talented then this. The more talented team SHOULD win most games against other less talented teams.
Youngest team in the NFL...WHO CARES!!!
If you can't win the close ones, it does not matter.
Good teams win, bad teams lose.
Mediocre teams languish at 8-8. Isn't that where we have been for 3 years?
Keith
11-24-2009, 12:35 AM
http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2009/20091124.html
Blame Brown, he gets paid to make kicks like this, but the lack of a consistent rushing offense is really exposing this team as a playoff pretender.
chuck
11-24-2009, 12:46 AM
The offensive line is bad bordering on terrible. This zone blocking bullshit is the emperor's old clothes. It's a fad that has run its course. The OL can't run block and the interior line is too small to pass block effectively. The Titans routinely rushed four and beat the dogshit out of the Texans front five. Or six.
The defensive line is a complete cipher in the pass rush. Mario was a nonfactor. The rest of the DL was as always a nonfactor.
The two most fundamentally important parts of the game are glaring weaknesses, as they have been since 2004. Or since forever.
Kubiak is an idiot. He is in completely over his head. McNair is an out of touch billionaire who is going to make the league forget about the Brown family.
This franchise is a joke. They cannot run the ball and they cannot stop the run. They have no direction, no leadership, no backbone, no character.
Fyck this team, fyck this franchise, I have far too much to do to waste three or four months of my life every year coming to this redneck shithole to suffer through this sort of idiocy. My PSL is now for sale. Hit me off list.
And fyck that prick Dunta Robinson. Make a play once a season and then complain about the ten million you're making.
Another meaningless season. This will be my last.
Fonz the Boss
11-24-2009, 06:31 AM
How great it must be to wake up this morning in Keith Bulluck's shoes... They did exactly what he said they would do. They came in here and completely destroyed all of our playoffs aspirations.
Fonz the Boss
11-24-2009, 06:35 AM
How quickly things turn around. A few weeks ago we were 5-3 and ppl were upset because they thought we should have been at least 7-1. Fast forward to next Sunday and this team will be 5-6. The Texans are now the biggest joke in this city. By far surpassing the previously biggest joke... which was Tracy McGrady.
popanot
11-24-2009, 07:02 AM
I was officially on the 'Fire Kubiak' bandwagon long ago, but I'm now driving the bus (Chuck and I are taking turns driving). Kuibak has no clue what it takes - nor the ability - to get this team to the next level. While the passing game gets the job done between the 20's for the most part, the OL sucks, the ZB scheme is a joke and can't pass block or get a key short yardage gain to save its life, we continue to run the wackiest of plays when down in the redzone, and the RB situation, well, what a fking mess... You have Chris Brown and Vonta Leach getting most of the touches in a must-win game! That's basically 2 KEY players on O who are going to produce absolutely zilch!!!! I'd rather have seen Casey AND Slaton back there. It wasn't like Leach and Brown were providing any extra protection and at least Schaub would have some dump-off options that could make a play.
I don't give a sh!t at this point if Slaton fumbles once a game. It's unconscionable that he got so few touches last night. If you don't trust Slaton, well put in Foster or give Henry a try because Brown is a joke and I'm sure the Titans sideline (and fans) were laughing their collective asses off when we trotted him out there.
So in Kubiaks tenure, we still:
1. Have no running game to speak of (which supposedly was a Denver strength and we could line up anyone back there).
2. Have a Swiss cheese OL (which supposedly was a Denver strength and we could line up small/less talented guys up there).
3. Have zero pass rush and still can't get a DLman within 5yds of a scrambling QB.
4. Have no team identity other than being known as a team that can't get in done when it counts the most.
I don't care about starting over at this point. I just want Kubiak out of there because I'm sick of having the same problems since before he got here and am convinced beyond any doubt he cannot get us to the next level. This is like beating your head against a wall!
Couple of other things from last night:
1. Was anyone surprised by the Titans fake punt attempt with about 5 minutes to go? I wasn't, but apparently Kubiak and his merry band of idiots were. Luckily it backfired when the Titans got a penalty and had to punt.
2. In what could have been the biggest idiotic move of the night was when Fisher decided to let VY throw on the last 3 plays before kicking the winning FG. We had no clue on how to stop the run/scramble combo and they likely could have just ran the clock down to nothing and prevented us from even having a chance at the end. What I'm saying is we were lucky to even have a chance to watch Charlie Brown screw it up.
3. Did anyone truly believe Charlie Brown was going to make either of those key FG attempts? Does anyone truly feel confident Charlie Brown will make any attempt? I haven't in two years so I'm not sure why Kubiak and his merry band of idiots haven't brought in any real competition. Look at the guy the Colts signed when their K went down. I hear that guy had a pretty decent career before the Colts signed him, yet, we don't even take a sniff and go with a guy who's been nothing if not inconsistent for the last 2+ years. If I were Texans coach, you'd see Brown weeping Ian Howfield tears today.
Oh well, there's always next year. And I'm sure we're getting real close to having those "will they or won't they be blacked-out this week" discussions with the way this franchise is going.
cadams
11-24-2009, 10:02 AM
The game should not have come down to a field goal. The blame falls on the defense and defensive coordinator for failing to recognize Vince Young's third down bullshit.
I agree with this, but would add the following:
1. three points scored in the second half is bullshit.
2. 1st and goal from the 8 should be a touchdown
3. dunta got eaten up all night by mediocre receivers
4. catch the f-n ball dunta! you want how much money?
5. where the hell was moats last night? chris brown sucks.
6. kubiak has pushed me off his wagon and onto papanot's bus. (can i have an aisle seat?)
popanot
11-24-2009, 11:07 AM
3. dunta got eaten up all night by mediocre receivers
5. where the hell was moats last night? chris brown sucks.
6. kubiak has pushed me off his wagon and onto papanot's bus. (can i have an aisle seat?)
Re #3: Dunta sucks. He almost has me wishing for Petey or P-Bust back there. Quinn is head and shoulders better than DRobbery at this point. I got a HUGE chuckle when the ESPN announcer called him a premiere CB in the league, yet, he was either getting burnt, drawing penalties, missing tackles, or dropping gimme INTs every time he was on camera. Yeah, he was "premiere" like 3 years ago - maybe...
Re #5: Damn... I completely forgot about Moats. WTF? I guess when you get in Kubiak's doghouse you stay there even to the detriment of team goals. Unless he was sick, it was inexcusable for him not see to action over Clodhopper Brown. Ahh, forget that, it was inexcusable for ANYONE not to get action over Clodhopper. My 5yr-old would have been more effective. What was Kubiak thinking with that move?
Re #6: Sure, hop aboard... No charge other than your sanity. You can even take a turn driving.
I am still sick this morning. The only silver lining is that we have Thanksgiving and an extra day off. That will make the week go by faster. I will be miserable for the next few days. The only thing that is making me smile is the idiot Titan fan that would not leave his seat in section 350 last night when asked by the ushers, then got arrested by HPD. Moron.
I am not sure where to start. I am not a "Fire XYZ" guy, but now I really have some doubts.
All I can do is muster up my inner Jim Mora and say these two quotable quotes. "Playoffs, are you kidding me..playoffs." And of course..."That sucked."
All my emotional capital is spent. However, I will be drinking the kool-aid in the offseason. I can't help myself. It is a sickness.
painekiller
11-24-2009, 11:57 AM
Let's go get Marty Schottenheimer. He knows how to get to the playoffs. And this team does not.
I agree with popanot, Casey and Slaton cause more matchup issues than Leach and Brown. You should design your game plan for match problems. No LB can cover Slaton, and when Casey swings out wide they defense has to account for him, unlike Leach.
I know Mario is hurt so I am not going to bust his chops, but is a hurt Mario, a one armed Mario, better than healthy someone else? The coaches should know.
When you have a roster of AJ, Andre Davis, Slaton, Walters, and can spread the defense out with this speed package, why do you stay with the package that has Brown, and David Anderson in them. Anderson is only faster then Matt Schaub, and that is it.
Nconroe
11-24-2009, 12:46 PM
I really wanted to win yesterday. So very disappointed. But, I'm not sure what to say, I think some people are overreacting to losing on a last second field goal. A game we for sure could have won. Many things could have gone better. I think we can win with what we got, players and coaches, and I think we are much better than previous years even though perhaps W-L record doesn't show it yet. And while it is getting more difficult, we do still have a shot at the playoffs and a winning record overall, in these last six remaining games.
popanot
11-24-2009, 01:33 PM
I think some people are overreacting to losing on a last second field goal. A game we for sure could have won. Many things could have gone better.Unfortunately, this is the image McNair has allowed this franchise to become. Their motto should be "Just be competitive, baby!". IMO, last minute or not, a loss is a loss regardless if it's by 3, 7, 10 or whatever. It continues to be a case where the players can't make the plays when they need to and/or the coaches are not able to develop a scheme or put the right players in the right position in order to make a play. Both are at fault, but I don't think expecting more and asking for someone to be held accountable for 7 years of average to downright awful play is overreacting. Kubiak has shown me that, yes, he can improve a team from awful to average, but I see nothing that indicates he has the wherewithal to take it to the next level. Like they say, you can't fire the players. I expect and want more than average.
Unfortunately, this is the image McNair has allowed this franchise to become. Their motto should be "Just be competitive, baby!". IMO, last minute or not, a loss is a loss regardless if it's by 3, 7, 10 or whatever. It continues to be a case where the players can't make the plays when they need to and/or the coaches are not able to develop a scheme or put the right players in the right position in order to make a play. Both are at fault, but I don't think expecting more and asking for someone to be held accountable for 7 years of average to downright awful play is overreacting. Kubiak has shown me that, yes, he can improve a team from awful to average, but I see nothing that indicates he has the wherewithal to take it to the next level. Like they say, you can't fire the players. I expect and want more than average.
I think you are missing his point. We have a competitive football team. We are not a dynasty, those are few and far between (and we are too young for that anyway), but we ARE a competitive team. The ball has not bounced, or been kicked, our way so far, but who's to say it won't over the next 6. All I know is after 8 years of being in that stadium this was the first time, that I can recall, that:
A - There were still a HUGE number of people in the stands for the final kick
B - With the exception of the Jets game, we have been in EVERY game we have played, again, ball hasn't bounced our way but it will sooner or later, that is what the NFL is built on
C - This is the best value that I have received for my entertainment dollar since the teams inception.
I still believe that we are capable of beating every team remaining on our schedule, but I realize that we are capable of losing to every team remaining on our schedule.
Time will tell, but I haven't heard a fat lady yet.......
Time will tell, but I haven't heard a fat lady yet.......
No, but she is at the buffet, getting herself warmed up.
coloradodude
11-24-2009, 02:36 PM
What can I possibly say that hasn't been said?
We are an embarrassment and a waste of time. A Parkinson ridden Schottenheimer can build this team into a 12 and 4 winner. Until then tickets should be half price and fans be allowed to bring their boo horns in mass.
coloradodude
11-24-2009, 02:49 PM
1970: The Oilers get off to a solid 2-1 start, but weaknesses on both sides of the ball catch up with them as they only win one of their final 11 games, finishing with a 3-10-1, as Coach Wally Lemm, announces his retirement. The Oilers would go on name Ed Hughes to replace him.
1971: The Oilers get off to a dreadful start going winless trough their first 6 games, before beating the Cincinnati Bengals 10-6 at the Astrodome. The Oilers would continue to struggle losing their next three games, sealing the fate of Coach Ed Hughes. The Oilers would win their last three games to finish with a 4-9-1 record, but Hughes was still fired, and replaced by Bill Peterson.
1972: After being blowout in their first two games the Oilers stun the New York Jets 26-20 at the Astrodome. However, the win would end up being the only win on the season, as the Oilers finish with a miserable 1-13 record, while being outscored an embarrassing 380-164 on the season.
1973: To say the Oilers season was miserable would be an understatement, as Coach Bill Peterson is fired after a 0-5 start. The Oilers whose record under Peterson was a humiliating 1-18, would be the led the rest of the season by Hall of Fame Coach Sid Gilman. However, not even Gilman could help, as the Oilers lost their next two games before beating the Colts 31-27 in Baltimore for their only win of the season, as the finished the season with a 1-13 record, being outscored 447-199 on the season.
1983: The Oilers get off to a miserable 1-5 start prompting head Coach Ed Biles to resign. He would be replaced by Chuck Studley but the Oilers would not do any better, winning just two of ten games under Studley, and finishing with a terrible 3-13 record. Following the season the Oilers would make Hugh Campbell its new coach.
1984: With hopes of improving the offense the Oilers win a competitive bidding war to sign CFL star Quarterback Warren Moon. However, with Earl Campbell in full decline, the Oilers decide to cut bait and trade the star Running Back that once dominated the NFL after a 1-5 start. The move would leave a gapping hole at RB but it was the defense that was a greater weak spot as the Oilers finished with a 2-14 record, allowing 457 points on the season.
1994: Without Warren Moon the Oilers get off to a miserable start losing nine of their first ten games before Coach Jack Pardee is fired and replaced by Jeff Fisher. Under Fisher the losing would continue as the Oilers lost their next five games, before beating the New York Jets 24-10 in their final game of the season to finish with a 2-14 record.
popanot
11-24-2009, 03:36 PM
I think you are missing his point. We have a competitive football team. We are not a dynasty, those are few and far between (and we are too young for that anyway), but we ARE a competitive team.I'm not asking for a dynasty. I'm asking for a team that can win and take care of business on a fairly consistent basis. And even more, show signs that it will beat the snot out of someone once in awhile. Sure we can win some and lose some and be in most games, but this fan isn't satisfied with that - as I'm sure many are not. Would I take this team over the 4-12 teams of old? Sure, but that doesn't mean I'm content with where we are. And again, I don't think this regime has what it takes to get us even close to a dynasty or even a division title or the Super Bowl. I'm having serious doubts if they can even get us to the playoffs as a wildcard.
No, the fat lady isn't singing, but she's clearing out her throat and warming up the pipes. We're actually lucky that our competitors for AFC wildcard are about as average as we are. It's frustrating that we haven't been able to take advantage of a year when we have a fairly easy schedule and perennial playoff teams like the Steelers, Broncos, Ravens, Titans and Jags are having problems.
Big Texas
11-24-2009, 03:38 PM
We definitely were the better team last night; however, the better team does not always win. It takes a certain sense of confidence and swagger on the part of the Coach to be able to get wins in these situations. I kept looking at the differences between JFisher and Kubiak last night in the clutch situations. Kubiak looked as confused as I had ever seen. I almost saw flashbacks of the one who's name must not be mentioned.
I mean, Really? Chris Brown? Come on. Was I the only one like what the hell? Then he just kept coming out onto the field. Did CBrown offer him money to play against his former team?
Also are we capable of only playing good in one half of football? It seems like every game we only play good in the first OR second half. I would rather average throughout the whole game.
Also, in the redzone when Shaub took that covered shot at AJ, Casey was naked rolling to the flats.
What happened to the screen game?
Talk about missing ODaniels.
After all the mistakes, all the mishaps, all the settling, we still had a chance to win the game, or at least tie... I don't care he should have made both those field goals. He only has one job. And he has not done it 2 games in a row. Kickers don't get the benefit of the doubt. I don't care if he misses the one's where we are up by 14. What matters is the clutch kicks. He has in 2 games lost the game for us. Yes he lost it for us. He did not do his job. The team put him in the position to tie it and even win it last night. He did not.
chuck
11-24-2009, 04:05 PM
a waste of time.
Completely.
Fonz the Boss
11-24-2009, 04:10 PM
I might have overreacted on my earlier post...... Im still angry but my Texans are not a joke. They played well enough to win. I dont think we will make the playoffs but right now Im only hoping for a 4-2 finish. That will still give us our first winning season with a record of 9-7.
cadams
11-24-2009, 04:50 PM
No, but she is at the buffet, getting herself warmed up.
No, she's actually on the bus with us. She's stuck in the sh-tter. Me and Papanot are trying to wedge her out, but we may need some assistance.
Pour some olive oil down the sides of her overgrown thighs and pull...
bckey
11-24-2009, 06:02 PM
I might have overreacted on my earlier post...... Im still angry but my Texans are not a joke. They played well enough to win. I dont think we will make the playoffs but right now Im only hoping for a 4-2 finish. That will still give us our first winning season with a record of 9-7.
All that would do is keep Kubiak around. I really don't think he is anything more than a .500 head coach. Vinny posted on another board that Kubiak's record against the AFC is 5-16. This means he gets out coached by opposing coaches that are familiar with him.
All that would do is keep Kubiak around. I really don't think he is anything more than a .500 head coach. Vinny posted on another board that Kubiak's record against the AFC is 5-16. This means he gets out coached by opposing coaches that are familiar with him.
???
I get 7-15 vs. AFC South....
2006 = 3-3
2007 = 1-5
2008 = 2-4
2009 = 1-3*
* in progress
Nconroe
11-24-2009, 09:13 PM
well, for this year, I think the three AFC south losses were last second plays where players didn't execute, not really coaching decisions.
and previous years, those teams were better, we were worse, and they won against the league, not just us. AFC south is recognized tough division.
so, we are getting closer to our main competition, not quite over the hump, but this year isn't over.
I think this means we are trying to build our team thru the draft, we have young coaches and young players, this did start over 3.5 years ago,not eight or 40 years ago, and the improvement has been steady these four years.
well, we should have won, so hate to argue about this. not saying a last second loss is better than a 20 point loss, but well. just don't see how the stats lead to conclusion you drew.
Joshua
11-25-2009, 09:18 AM
well, for this year, I think the three AFC south losses were last second plays where players didn't execute, not really coaching decisions.
I get this but at some point a continual failure to execute has to fall to the coaches as well for two reasons. One, your job isn't merely to call the plays, it's also to get the players to execute, particularly at the most critical times. This may mean practicing it 40 times, or simulating crowd noise during practice, or whatever else it may take. I understand that the coaches aren't on the field and can't guarantee execution, but I can't shake the belief that good coaches somehow manage to get better execution out of their players than mediocre ones. As a quick example, the Cowboys preparation and execution in Parcells' first year was 180 degrees from what it had been the year before with (I believe) Campo. Teams that are well prepared by their coaches during the week tend to execute better.
Secondly, even if you do believe execution is solely on the players, these are the players Kubiak wanted. Make no mistake, this is his team. If he put together a team with a bunch of guys who can't execute at crunch time (even assuming he is providing the best coaching this side of Lombardi), well that's still his fault for bringing in a bunch of guys who can't perform despite his excellent tutalege.
HPF Bob
11-25-2009, 11:40 PM
Such anger!
It means you expect winning now and upset when it doesn't happen. Quite an upgrade from 2005.
What disappoints me isn't the failure to pull games out at the end, it's the mistakes that kept it close to begin with. If I blame Kubiak for anything, it's a lack of imagination. Why not slip in a hurry-up offense once in awhile? Why not try Casey in a wildcat just to change it up? Tennessee doesn't have to think outside the box before our offense never does (except the SWBR).
We're a team that always seems to be less than the sum of their parts and I'm not sure how you fix that except to keep adding parts.
We do need some leaders though. We need some guys who are going to take losing very personally and get in everyone's grill about it. The Ravens' D looks great most of the team because Ray Lewis won't tolerate less than 100 percent. Coordinators come and go but I think Lewis scares his own teammates into not taking any plays off.
So, I'm disappointed but not as completely pissed as some of you. We're aren't that far away but we're not that close either.
coloradodude
11-26-2009, 12:42 AM
"We're aren't that far away but..."
And then there's our run game statistics.
chuck
11-26-2009, 01:25 AM
We're a team that always seems to be less than the sum of their parts...
This is a fantastic way to put it.
As for not being that far away, well, CD points out that the team can't run the ball. I assume he also points us to the run defense, which is awful. And just for the hell of it I'll throw in the pass rush, which I cannot call bad because it simply does not exist. So, yeah, other than that, and the special teams and the idiot coach and the stupefying play calling and horrible clock management and the clueless owner we're RIGHT THERE. Yep. We're pulling on the old Bum Phillips boot and preparing to kick the son of a bitch in. Sure we are.
idymoe
11-26-2009, 11:40 AM
The run defense has been very good lately, up until the last game. I think the whole defensive game plan was off for the Titans. There was no pressure on VY. He had plenty of time to wait on his receivers and do that little wristy pass with his feet planted. I think they should have had Cushing blitzing with man coverage and put some pressure on Vince to get rid of the ball quick. Of course, 20 points is not a huge amount to give up.
I really believe that Studdard and Meyers are ruining the offense. They get a good downfield block occasionally, but you can't run between the tackles with those two. I think the Texans needed more underneath routes against the Tits for ball controll, with no running game. Especially in the 2nd half.
I'm disappointed in the loss, but seriously, how much hysterical whining do we have to wade through after every loss. I get so tired of the "its a message board, you are supposed to express your opinion" crap. Ok, my opinion is discuss the game, but if you're so upset, grow a sac and keep the girlish hysterics to yourself.
Bring it on, Nancys. :D
The run defense has been very good lately, up until the last game. I think the whole defensive game plan was off for the Titans. There was no pressure on VY. He had plenty of time to wait on his receivers and do that little wristy pass with his feet planted. I think they should have had Cushing blitzing with man coverage and put some pressure on Vince to get rid of the ball quick. Of course, 20 points is not a huge amount to give up.
I really believe that Studdard and Meyers are ruining the offense. They get a good downfield block occasionally, but you can't run between the tackles with those two. I think the Texans needed more underneath routes against the Tits for ball controll, with no running game. Especially in the 2nd half.
I'm disappointed in the loss, but seriously, how much hysterical whining do we have to wade through after every loss. I get so tired of the "its a message board, you are supposed to express your opinion" crap. Ok, my opinion is discuss the game, but if you're so upset, grow a sac and keep the girlish hysterics to yourself.
Bring it on, Nancys. :D
:) I hear ya.
People complaining about mediocrity/.500? Eh, there's a whole lot worse things than .500.....
In some circles, another adjective for .500 is "respectable" - but I'm in the glass half full camp....
Last year, at one point, the Texans were 3-7 with much wailing and crying. But they went 5-1 down the stretch and had it going (except for the blip that was the Raiders game)....
There's still a lot of season left - 6 games.... Maybe they can do it again.. maybe not.... we'll see...
There were a couple of Oiler years where they had a problem in the close games - terrible record when the game was decided by a touchdown or less. They eventually overcame it and prospered...
chuck
11-26-2009, 11:36 PM
Listen, I'm not going to get into who's ponied up season ticket and PSL money and who hasn't and who rearranges his schedule to come to Houston to attend the games and who doesn't. And, by extension, who has the footing to be disappointed when the ceiling is mediocrity and to demonstrate this displeasure in a financial manner and who doesn't.
All I can say is that I am surprised that some of you seem to be content to be fans of a team that occasionally elevates itself to the lofty heights of mediocrity. VERY occasionally, actually.
Maybe if I used Texans football as a three hour weekly foil for my real passion - watching fat people eat purple cotton candy on the Food Network - I'd be more sanguine. Or maybe if I were a fan of another NFL team and used the Texans to guinea pig my ideas and emotions I'd be a lot less hostile to the fact that the franchise clearly has no purpose, leadership, vision or future.
But I'm not.
Listen, I'm not going to get into who's ponied up season ticket and PSL money and who hasn't and who rearranges his schedule to come to Houston to attend the games and who doesn't. And, by extension, who has the footing to be disappointed when the ceiling is mediocrity and to demonstrate this displeasure in a financial manner and who doesn't.
All I can say is that I am surprised that some of you seem to be content to be fans of a team that occasionally elevates itself to the lofty heights of mediocrity. VERY occasionally, actually.
Maybe if I used Texans football as a three hour weekly foil for my real passion - watching fat people eat purple cotton candy on the Food Network - I'd be more sanguine. Or maybe if I were a fan of another NFL team and used the Texans to guinea pig my ideas and emotions I'd be a lot less hostile to the fact that the franchise clearly has no purpose, leadership, vision or future.
But I'm not.
:D..............
barrett
11-27-2009, 08:50 AM
Listen, I'm not going to get into who's ponied up season ticket and PSL money and who hasn't and who rearranges his schedule to come to Houston to attend the games and who doesn't. And, by extension, who has the footing to be disappointed when the ceiling is mediocrity and to demonstrate this displeasure in a financial manner and who doesn't.
All I can say is that I am surprised that some of you seem to be content to be fans of a team that occasionally elevates itself to the lofty heights of mediocrity. VERY occasionally, actually.
Maybe if I used Texans football as a three hour weekly foil for my real passion - watching fat people eat purple cotton candy on the Food Network - I'd be more sanguine. Or maybe if I were a fan of another NFL team and used the Texans to guinea pig my ideas and emotions I'd be a lot less hostile to the fact that the franchise clearly has no purpose, leadership, vision or future.
But I'm not.
I hope you don't fall off of that high horse Chuck.
I am also glad you have decided not to get into all of those things...oh wait...you do...immediately after you said you wouldn't.
Your PSL and your financial committment mean nothing in regards to you verses any other fan. I am lucky to attend one game a year in person, and yet I proudly follow the team with as much committment as anyone. I feel the exact same way you do about this team and I agree it is pathetic we are at this point, and doubly pathetic that some people are ok with it.
But give us a break on the "I spend money so I am a better fan" routine.
I feel the exact same way you do about this team and I agree it is pathetic we are at this point, and doubly pathetic that some people are ok with it.
For the record, I believe I and others are not OK with it and would love to see winning football. IMO, a .500 team deserves to be treated exactly that way - 1/2 way up (or down for the glass half empties) the pathetic scale. I believe the original complaint from the other poster was that some people were crying and whining like this is a total disaster team - and that is just simply not the case. If I had my druthers between a disaster team and and a .500 team, I'd take the .500 team all day long....
Big Texas
11-27-2009, 11:55 AM
The run defense has been very good lately, up until the last game. I think the whole defensive game plan was off for the Titans. There was no pressure on VY. He had plenty of time to wait on his receivers and do that little wristy pass with his feet planted. I think they should have had Cushing blitzing with man coverage and put some pressure on Vince to get rid of the ball quick. Of course, 20 points is not a huge amount to give up.
I really believe that Studdard and Meyers are ruining the offense. They get a good downfield block occasionally, but you can't run between the tackles with those two. I think the Texans needed more underneath routes against the Tits for ball controll, with no running game. Especially in the 2nd half.
I'm disappointed in the loss, but seriously, how much hysterical whining do we have to wade through after every loss. I get so tired of the "its a message board, you are supposed to express your opinion" crap. Ok, my opinion is discuss the game, but if you're so upset, grow a sac and keep the girlish hysterics to yourself.
Bring it on, Nancys. :D
Me personally I think our defense has been pretty decent over the last 4-5 games. However, a pass rush is something that we have been lacking for a long time. Either our execution is terrible or the blitz packages are terrible. However you look at it our pass rush is pathetic. Our dbs damn near have to cover the receiver for 10 seconds for us to get a sack.
I have noticed that teams are using Mario's aggressiveness to their benefit. They allow him to accelerate off the LOS while the qb is prepared to just step up into the pocket (where our DTs are putting no pressure). I say blitz the Cushing in the same gap as Mario. This could at least fill that gap, however it would make us highly susceptible to screens. Execution is key.
While I have the opportunity let me add. Alot of people were really down on DRob for getting beat by Britt (I believe), me included. However I can not put that solely on him. This team was geared towards stopping the big play. (which subsequently they gave maybe once) I do not blame DRob for looking into the backfield on those play action plays. CJohnson demands that sort of attention. Sure he could've played better but I am not gonna say he sucks.
barrett
11-27-2009, 02:01 PM
For the record, I believe I and others are not OK with it and would love to see winning football. IMO, a .500 team deserves to be treated exactly that way - 1/2 way up (or down for the glass half empties) the pathetic scale. I believe the original complaint from the other poster was that some people were crying and whining like this is a total disaster team - and that is just simply not the case. If I had my druthers between a disaster team and and a .500 team, I'd take the .500 team all day long....
I wasn't saying you in particular Arky. I was simply telling Chuck that I agreed with his point about the season going bad, but I am fed up with his constant reminders of the money he spends on tickets and the threats to stop spending it.
As for your assertion about a .500 team I get what you are saying. But it is more complicated then that for me. I can put up with .500 if we are getting better. I can even put up with sub .500 if we are getting better. Getting better encourages hope for the future. However, we are not getting better and I am really doubting we ever do in the team's current makeup. We are plenty good at the game of football and plenty talented, we are simply not good at winning football games.
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