Replay Review of Jacoby's TD

[today]

I just watched the "Official Review" segment on the NFL Network's Total Access show, and they said that there was an article on the website where they would describe why Jacoby's TD catch was upheld.

I have scoured nfl.com and cannot find this article anywhere. I'm really interested to see what distinguished Jacoby's catch from Murphy's TD catch for the Raiders that was overuled as incomplete.

Was anyone able to find the link?

[Fonz the Boss]

I dont have the link but I believe the answer to that question was that Murphy's catch was in the endzone. Jacoby caught the ball before he was swung into the endzone therefore possession was established before the ball crossed the plane. If you have possession before crossing the plane then it doesnt matter if the ball gets knocked out or anything. The play ends once you cross the plane.

[today]

Great explanation! That makes perfect sense, I hadn't thought about the fact that he had possession in the field of play...

Glad that Jacoby had the rulebook on his side for both of those close ones.

[Nconroe]

this link has video of all scores/highlights for both teams with analysis.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009092007/2009/REG2/texans@titans#tab:watch

fun watching all the scores again, atleast the Texans scores.

they have several videos from the game you can watch there

for JJ's TD they cover the catch and score was as explained above by Fonz.

[today]

Thanks!!!!

[popanot]

Has NFLN shown the game on Replay? Every time I flick over to NFLN and Replay is on its either the Bears/Steelers (which wasn't that great of a game) or the Cowpies/Giants. I would think the Texans game as well as the Colts/Phins game would be Replay worthy. Maybe I'm just not catching it at the right time...

[Nconroe]

Yeah, NFLN had it on replay Tuesday evening.

here is schedule, might be on this afternoon, but they don't name the teams.
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/networkschedule

[WMH]

Has NFLN shown the game on Replay? Every time I flick over to NFLN and Replay is on its either the Bears/Steelers (which wasn't that great of a game) or the Cowpies/Giants. I would think the Texans game as well as the Colts/Phins game would be Replay worthy. Maybe I'm just not catching it at the right time...

Yepper. It was the first game on Tuesday night. I didn't catch it until 4Qtr..... I like the replays, as it throws some commentary in it regarding specific situations.

[Arky]

Here's Mike Pereira's explanation of the TD catch in a "bonus" segment:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d812dd884/Official-Review-Week-2-bonus-coverage

Also, Pereira explains JJ's fair catch here:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/09000d5d812dd820/Official-Review-Week-2

[papabear]

That's pretty much what I was screaming to the TV when they reviewed it...he held onto to the ball through the first contact with the ground, it wasn't until after rolling over Finnegan that he lost the ball.

[NBT]

Leave it to J.J. to make routine things seems like mountains. I was good on the TD, but until I heard the explanation, I thought we had got away with one. So the rule on the faircatch is that the receiver has the opportunity to make a "faircatch" even if he bobbles the ball until the ball hits the ground! But it didn't hit the ground because the opponent grabbed it out of the air, thus saving Jocobie's bacon, to say nothing of his ass!

[painekiller]

Leave it to J.J. to make routine things seems like mountains. I was good on the TD, but until I heard the explanation, I thought we had got away with one. So the rule on the faircatch is that the receiver has the opportunity to make a "faircatch" even if he bobbles the ball until the ball hits the ground! But it didn't hit the ground because the opponent grabbed it out of the air, thus saving Jocobie's bacon, to say nothing of his ass!

You are correct sir!

[NBT]

Speaking of the Titans game PK, what did you think of Cushing's 10 TFL? Do you still maintain he wasn't a good #1 draft choice for us?

[HPF Bob]

Cushing had 10 TFL??? 10 tackles maybe but not tackles for loss.

EDIT: I checked the stats - he had 10 total tackles (not tackles for loss) - 7 individual tackles and three assists.

I liked the fact that he shut down some screen plays. It's too early, though, to judge if he'll be worth a first-rounder. Way too early.

[NBT]

You are ever so correct HPF, my bad!

[nunusguy]

Cushing had 10 TFL??? 10 tackles maybe but not tackles for loss.

EDIT: I checked the stats - he had 10 total tackles (not tackles for loss) - 7 individual tackles and three assists.

I liked the fact that he shut down some screen plays. It's too early, though, to judge if he'll be worth a first-rounder. Way too early.

I missed seeing the game live - I was out of town but recorded it and just watched it after getting home and wow, it was a hellava game !
Anyway, Cushing was very impressive especially considering it was only his second NFL game including preseason games.

[mussop]

Cushing had 10 TFL??? 10 tackles maybe but not tackles for loss.

EDIT: I checked the stats - he had 10 total tackles (not tackles for loss) - 7 individual tackles and three assists.

I liked the fact that he shut down some screen plays. It's too early, though, to judge if he'll be worth a first-rounder. Way too early.

I agree its to early to judge him yet but I have to say I wasnt as impressed with his performance as others seem to be. I missed the game because my DVR got reset somehow and I was in Glaveston. I watched the game on NFL replay so I may of missed some of his good plays seeing how they skip a few plays here and there. WUWT??? :confused:

Anyway I seen him miss a couple of tackles he should of had and didnt see him have any real impact on the game but considering its only his second game I think he did ok. I had people telling me "wait till you see the game he had, man he was impressive!". I didnt think he did anything anymore impressive than Dyles and we got him in the 7th round.

I want to see him become a difference maker. I want big plays like FF's and big hits that fire up the D. Until I see that on a regular basis Im sticking with it was a mistake taking him over Oher.

[popanot]

I agree its to early to judge him yet but I have to say I wasnt as impressed with his performance as others seem to be. I missed the game because my DVR got reset somehow and I was in Glaveston. I watched the game on NFL replay so I may of missed some of his good plays seeing how they skip a few plays here and there. WUWT??? :confused:Man, what did you expect the kid to do in only his second game and without most of training camp??? He only had the best game of any LB on the field last Sunday, IMO. I noticed him making more plays than Demeco - and that's saying a lot. I don't mean that as knock on Demeco, but when was the last time one of our LB's overshadowed Demeco's effort? I thought Cush had a great game and am extremely encouraged by what I saw. He was out of position at times, but he was snuffing the screens like a mad man and was in the action all over the field. Another thing I liked was his intensity. He was looking to punish people and was also encouraging his teammates when they made a play. A+, IMO.

[mussop]

Man, what did you expect the kid to do in only his second game and without most of training camp??? He only had the best game of any LB on the field last Sunday, IMO. I noticed him making more plays than Demeco - and that's saying a lot. I don't mean that as knock on Demeco, but when was the last time one of our LB's overshadowed Demeco's effort? I thought Cush had a great game and am extremely encouraged by what I saw. He was out of position at times, but he was snuffing the screens like a mad man and was in the action all over the field. Another thing I liked was his intensity. He was looking to punish people and was also encouraging his teammates when they made a play. A+, IMO.

Like I said I watched the game on NFL replay and they skip plays here and there so maybe I missed some of his plays, I dont know. From what I seen people are over reacting about his performance. I only seen him snuff one screen play. There were a total of 3 plays were I thought he looked really good. There were 2 plays I thought he looked really bad. I just didnt see the dominate performance everyone keeps describing.

Hell Tennessee scored 31 points on us. No one had a great game on D IMO. Once again from what I saw on NFL replay he had a good game especially considering he missed most of preseason and this is only his second game. Just not a game where I am wowed like so many seem to be.

[painekiller]

Speaking of the Titans game PK, what did you think of Cushing's 10 TFL? Do you still maintain he wasn't a good #1 draft choice for us?

As Bob said it's to early. We have played 4 fake games and 2 real ones, he did play the real games. But he already showing signs he going to have to be handled different then the other Lbs.

[nunusguy]

But he already showing signs he going to have to be handled different then the other Lbs.

Elaborate ?

[painekiller]

Elaborate ?

During two a days his body broke down and his knee became strained. He did not have a hit or misstep, it just became "overworked".

from the Texans own reports at the time (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5452)Cushing, the Texans' starting strongside linebacker, had arthroscopic surgery on his left knee in 2007 while at USC. But on Wednesday afternoon, he said that his latest injury was caused by the wear and tear of camp and called it "no big deal."

"I'm not (worried)," Cushing said. "I've sprained my knee before. This is football. Little things like this are going to happen. It's preseason; I'll be healthy."

After a week of practice his knee strained enough for him to not be available for four weeks. And he was still handed the starters role. No practice but you can start. How is that not different?

[Nconroe]

During two a days his body broke down and his knee became strained. He did not have a hit or misstep, it just became "overworked".

from the Texans own reports at the time (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5452)
After a week of practice his knee strained enough for him to not be available for four weeks. And he was still handed the starters role. No practice but you can start. How is that not different?

Hmm, Cushing had a pretty good game, maybe still going to get much better.

I didn't see in the Texans article where the knee got strained on its own and didn't see the word "overworked" used. You don't think it might have been due to contact of some sort. Lots of guys get inured all the time.

On the practice bit, he was here all preseason, he was out on practice field, even if held out of the practice games, and I think played in the final preseason practice with Tampa. His production the first two games shows he deserves to be starting. I am sure Pitts, Myers, Walters, several have been handled carefully.

And, JJ, I think he's doing pretty well, helping us win. And thinking too much.
I thought it was nice of him to support AJ in the scuffle.

[painekiller]

I didn't see in the Texans article where the knee got strained on its own and didn't see the word "overworked" used. You don't think it might have been due to contact of some sort. Lots of guys get inured all the time..

Cushing was said to have said "that his latest injury was caused by the wear and tear of camp"

Cushing has a history of this in college, plus he on record discussing his workouts, and how he does not allow his body rest. IMO, this guy is heading to an injury prone career. That said, I hope I am wrong and he has a HOF career here in Houston with a couple Super Bowl rings.