My 2010 watch list is starting

[painekiller]

DT Ndamukong Suh 6-4 300 Nebraska video he is a man child who needs to grow up. (http://www.mefeedia.com/entry/ndamukong-suh-vs-virginia-tech/17120301)

LB Sean Weatherspoon 6-3 235 Mizzou
RB Keiland Williams 5-11 229 LSU

Just few guys to wet the pre OTA appetite.

[NBT]

I think we have pretty much reached the stage where we won't be sucking hind tit at LB anymore, so I would say skill positions, whether offense or defense, will be the overriding factor from now on.

[Roy P]

LB Sean Weatherspoon 6-3 235 Mizzou
RB Keiland Williams 5-11 229 LSU

Just few guys to wet the pre OTA appetite.

Again, I'll post my prelim draft board.


1 Taylor Mays FS Southern California 6' 3" 230
2 Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri 6' 1" 235
3 Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma 6' 4" 295
4 Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech 5' 11" 228
5 Reshad Jones FS Georgia 6' 2" 205
6 Eric Berry SS Tennessee 5' 11" 195
7 Kam Chancellor FS Virginia Tech 6' 4" 224
8 Vince Oghobaase DT Duke 6' 6" 310
9 Dan LeFevour QB Central Michigan 6' 3" 228
10 Jared Odrick DT Penn State 6' 5" 308
11 Mike Williams WR Syracuse 6' 2" 205
12 Arrelious Benn WR Illinois 6' 2" 214
13 Marvin Austin DT North Carolina 6' 3" 305
14 Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State 6' 2" 210
15 Quan Sturdivant OLB North Carolina 6' 2" 232
16 Stafon Johnson RB Southern California 5' 11" 215
17 Luthur Brown OLB Southern California 6' 2" 235
18 Dan Doering OG Iowa 6' 6" 302
19 Ben Tate RB Auburn 5' 11" 215
20 Boo Robinson DT Wake Forest 6' 2" 325
21 David Gettis WR Baylor 6' 4" 209
22 Jay Ross DT East Carolina 6' 3" 306
23 Keiland Williams RB LSU 6' 0" 228
24 Roddrick Muckelroy OLB Texas 6' 2" 235
25 Ed Wang OT Virginia Tech 6' 5" 310
26 Dennis Landolt OT Penn State 6' 4" 310
27 Danny McCray FS LSU 6' 1" 212
28 Anthony Dixon RB Mississippi State 6' 1" 238
29 Chris Scott OT Tennessee 6' 5" 312
30 Jarred Fayson WR Illinois 6' 0" 209
31 Shane Carter FS Wisconsin 6' 2" 205

[painekiller]

I had another LB on my preseason watch list, but he was diagnoised with cancer and will miss the year. Mark Herzlich Boston College OLB.

Here is the story for those interested. (http://www.boston.com/sports/colleges/football/articles/2009/05/16/waiting_game_for_herzlich/)



"The kid was sitting on top of the world," said Herzlich's father, Sandy, yesterday morning by telephone from his home in Pennsylvania. "But during spring practice he had a lot of different things that were bothering him. We checked it out and the doctors prescribed some medicine, which allowed him to play in the spring game. The nerve medication seemed to be working, but it didn't work all the way. The pain came back. We went to another doctor and he said that we weren't taking a strong enough dosage. Imagine if we had done that originally. He wouldn't have felt any pain and they probably would have never found what they found. It's a borderline mini-miracle."

Earlier this week, doctors found a tumor in Herzlich's left thigh, which was diagnosed as a rare form of bone cancer called Ewing's sarcoma. Sandy Herzlich said the initial exam revealed the cancer had not spread.

....


Mark Herzlich, who will begin chemotherapy treatments Tuesday in Philadelphia, was almost matter of fact in discussing the setback.

...

The next seven months will consist of a series of treatments designed to shrink the tumor. By early fall, doctors hope the tumor will be small enough that they can remove it.

Rest and recovery will follow, which will take Herzlich through the end of the year. He said his goal is to return to playing by next spring.

"Basically what it is, is that a lump in my leg is giving me a pain in the ass," he said.

[painekiller]

With all the injuries and hold out, and watching the Titans play. I have to add some DBs to watch to my list. Like NBT said the LBs appear to be a much stronger unit. And the DL seems to be OK. The guys in the back are the biggest question on the team.

Lets say Bennett picks his game back up, and Molden starts to show us something, Quinn has already surprised along with McCain. On paper that is nice depth. But it is still upgradable.

Wilson and Ferguson will start the season as starters, IMO. Barber has impressed in burst, Busing has flashed in practices, but so has bubbleboy (my name for him) Harrison.

I see Nolan as PS squad guy with no room as long as the old guys are here.

Who are the guys to target? I am mainly talking round 1 to 3 types.

Taylor Mays S 6'4" 225 USC
Trevor Lindley CB 6'0" 178 Kentucky
Nate Allen S 6'2" 190 South Florida
Myron Lewis CB 6'2" 200 Vanderbilt
Walter Thurmond III CB 6'0" 175 Oregon
Javier Arenas CB 5'9" 200 Alabama
Darrell Stuckey S 6'1" 205 Kansas
Anderson Russell S 6'0" 205 Ohio State
Kyle Wilson CB 5'10" 190 Boise State
Jerrell Norton CB 6'1" 190 Arkansas
Brian Jackson CB 6'1" 202 Oklahoma
Myron Rolle S 6'2" 215 Florida State
Van Eskridge S 6'0" 200 East Carolina
Jordan Lake S 6'2" 203 Baylor
P.J. Mahone CB 5'11" 201 Bowling Green
Patrick Robinson CB 5'11" 184 Florida State

In my mind we are going to need to add one safety and one CB in the top 3 rounds. Add in a OG or RB in the 2nd round and I think we jump the defense up another notch.

Any thought on guys to watch as we get closer to college football time?

[nunusguy]

I certainly hope we're not drafting high enouth in the first round next April to have a Mays or Witherspoon on our Board.

[painekiller]

I certainly hope we're not drafting high enouth in the first round next April to have a Mays or Witherspoon on our Board.

I"m seeing Weatherspoon ranked around 15 and Kindle up to 29. Mays is a solid top ten guy.

So only Mays appears unreachable.

[painekiller]

This will be a work in progress, guys added and dropped

QBs
Jonathan Crompton, 6-3, 230, Tennessee notes WCO prostyle offense

RB
Jonathan Dwyer, 5-11, 230, Georgia Tech notes only saw a few highlights but real deal
Jahvid Best, 5-9, 195, California
Motario Hardesty, 5-11, 215, Tennessee
Charles Scott, 5-10, 235, LSU
Keiland Williams, 5-10, 225, LSU

FB & TE
I am not looking to draft either for a while

WR
Dez Bryant, 6-1, 215, Oklahoma State
Danario Alexander, 6-4, 210, Missouri

OL
Mike Johnson, 6-5, 300, Alabama

DE
Not that we need one
Brandon Graham, 6-2, 270, Michigan
Will Tukuafu, 6-3 280, Oregon

DT
Gerald McCoy, 6-3, 295, Oklahoma
Ndamukong Suh, 6-3, 300, Nebraska

MLB
Rolando McClain, 6-3, 255, Alabama
Brandon Spikes, 6-2, 260, Florida

OLB
Sean Witherspoon, 6-0, 245, Missouri

CB
Donovan Warren, 5-11, 180, Michigan notes loves to hit
Trevard Lindley, 5-11, 180, Kentucky
Javier Arenas, 5-9, 195, Alabama (PR)

Safeties
Eric Berry, 5-11, 205, Tennessee note worth a trade up for

Punter
Zoltan Mesko, 6-5, 240, Michigan note left footed punter strong leg
Jake Harry, 6-1, 195, Missouri

[TexicanMexican]

I'm not much of a draftnik so I watch what you guys post. I'm thinking a top flight safety if one is available.

[painekiller]

I'm not much of a draftnik so I watch what you guys post. I'm thinking a top flight safety if one is available.

I agree, the trouble for me is that most TV coverage does not show the safeties play in coverage. You usually only notice them when they blow a coverage.

Also for FYI, for me it is hard to judge the OL guys in most games, things get so bunched up and happen so fast, that TV coverage does not do them justice

[painekiller]

This will be a work in progress, guys added and dropped

This only a list not a ranking. Especially as we go forward, guys will be added at the bottom of their positions

QBs
Jonathan Crompton, 6-3, 230, Tennessee notes WCO prostyle offense
Tony Pike, 6-5, 225, Cincinnati


RB
Jonathan Dwyer, 5-11, 230,
Jahvid Best, 5-9, 195, California
Motario Hardesty, 5-11, 215, Tennessee
Charles Scott, 5-10, 235, LSU
Keiland Williams, 5-10, 225, LSU
Javarris James, 5-11, 215, Miami

FB & TE
I am not looking to draft either for a while

WR
Dez Bryant, 6-1, 215, Oklahoma State
Danario Alexander, 6-4, 210, Missouri

OL
Mike Johnson, 6-5, 300, Alabama
Jason Fox, 6-6, 310, Miami
Cord Howard, 6-4, 310, Georgia Tech


DE
Not that we need one
Brandon Graham, 6-2, 270, Michigan
Will Tukuafu, 6-3 280, Oregon

DT
Gerald McCoy, 6-3, 295, Oklahoma
Ndamukong Suh, 6-3, 300, Nebraska
Joe Joseph, 6-3, 304, Miami

MLB
Rolando McClain, 6-3, 255, Alabama
Brandon Spikes, 6-2, 260, Florida

OLB
Sean Witherspoon, 6-0, 245, Missouri
Darryl Sharpton ,6-0, 235, Miami
Colin McCarthy, 6-3, 242, Miami
Dakoda Wayson, 6-2, 226, Florida ST.

CB
Donovan Warren, 5-11, 180, Michigan notes loves to hit
Trevard Lindley, 5-11, 180, Kentucky
Javier Arenas, 5-9, 195, Alabama (PR)
Patrick Robinson, 5-10, 195, Florida State

Safeties
Eric Berry, 5-11, 205, Tennessee note worth a trade up for
Morgan Burnett, 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
Randy Phillips, 6-0, 210, Miami

Punter
Zoltan Mesko, 6-5, 240, Michigan note left footed punter strong leg
Jake Harry, 6-1, 195, Missouri

[Roy P]

I agree, the trouble for me is that most TV coverage does not show the safeties play in coverage. You usually only notice them when they blow a coverage.

Also for FYI, for me it is hard to judge the OL guys in most games, things get so bunched up and happen so fast, that TV coverage does not do them justice

The best time to see a Safety is when a deep pass is thrown and the CB is beaten and as the ball is coming into the WR's hands he gets the $hit knocked out of him as the ball lands on the ground.

[painekiller]

The best time to see a Safety is when a deep pass is thrown and the CB is beaten and as the ball is coming into the WR's hands he gets the $hit knocked out of him as the ball lands on the ground.

And also when they do this. When they do good things and real bad things.

Really good CB do not have the ball thrown at them, and really good safeties do not have people going over the middle on them.

I am looking for ball hawks right now. The Texans have not had a ball hawk since Glenn left and are in deep need for one. 2 of our rookies have shown signs, but we will all need to see them produce turnovers in the real season.

[NBT]

If only we could find a Polamalu. Just kidding of course, but that is what we really need. You don't have any trouble finding him on t.v.

[Roy P]

This will be a work in progress, guys added and dropped

OL
Mike Johnson, 6-5, 300, Alabama
Jason Fox, 6-6, 310, Miami
Cord Howard, 6-4, 310, Georgia Tech




Watching Sergio Render 6-3 314, Va Tech

Maybe he gets on the field before Antoine Caldwell

[mussop]

Watching Sergio Render 6-3 314, Va Tech

Maybe he gets on the field before Antoine Caldwell

Render is good!

[Nconroe]

I noticed UH , in addition to one super QB, has some excellent looking WR's.

[Roy P]

Okay, I think we could use another RB who can move the chains and complement Slaton because I don't think Chris Brown is the guy. I'm also wanting a big NT so we can let Zgonina retire already. Everyone realizes we need a FS that can cover and tackle. I'd like to have a tackling machine with speed and instincts to play the WILL. Lastly, I think I'm going to need a RG on the roster so he can learn the system and eventually get on the field.

RB, NT, FS, LB, RG are my positions that I want to fill in the draft.

Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska 6-4 302 5.02
Taylor Mays FS Southern California 6-3 235 4.47
Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri 6-1 245 4.59
Ricky Sapp OLB Clemson 6-4 248 4.58
Vince Oghobaase DT Duke 6-5 305 5.06
Toby Gerhart RB Stanford 6-1 235 4.55
Nate Allen FS South Florida 6-1 206 4.50
Jon Asamoah OG Illinois 6-4 315 5.08
Jeff Owens DT Georgia 6-1 306 4.98
Thomas Austin OG Clemson 6-3 310 5.16
Pat Angerer LB Iowa 6-0 235 4.52
Anthony Dixon RB Mississippi State 6-1 235 4.59
Mitch Petrus OG Arkansas 6-3 315 5.09
Keiland Williams RB LSU 5-11 221 4.56
Ben Tate RB Auburn 5-11 218 4.50
Jay Ross DT East Carolina 6-3 314 5.09
Brandon Minor RB Michigan 6-0 218 4.59
Mike Neal DT Purdue 6-3 302 4.96
Danny McCray FS LSU 6-1 206 4.55
Sergio Render OG Virginia Tech 6-3 313 5.26
Andre Anderson RB Tulane 5-11 212 4.54
Barry Church S Toledo 6-1 219 4.56
Montario Hardesty RB Tennessee 6-0 215 4.55
Terrell Skinner FS Maryland 6-2 214 4.59
Earl Mitchell DT Arizona 6-2 295 4.94
Lamarr Houston DT Texas 6-2 300 4.93
Randy Phillips FS Miami (Fla.) 6-0 210 4.59
Lonyae Miller RB Fresno State 5-11 220 4.52
Larry Hart OLB Central Arkansas 6-0 242 4.58
Nick Polk FS Indiana 5-11 219 4.54
Larry Asante SS Nebraska 6-0 215 4.56
Cam Thomas DT North Carolina 6-3 328 5.18
Kyle McCarthy SS Notre Dame 6-0 210 7 4.58
Keith Toston RB Oklahoma State 6-0 214 4.57
Dorian Porch SS Virginia Tech 5-10 209 4.43

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings?&start_row=1

[Roy P]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wz5IUfyZjQ

Just in case we can't get Taylor Mays or Eric Berry to play S for us in the draft.

[painekiller]

Here's a look at most of the top safeties on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3AQh6EB1CA)

[painekiller]

This will be a work in progress, guys added and dropped

This only a list not a ranking. Especially as we go forward, guys will be added at the bottom of their positions

QBs
Jonathan Crompton, 6-3, 230, Tennessee notes WCO prostyle offense
Tony Pike, 6-5, 225, Cincinnati


RB
Jonathan Dwyer, 5-11, 230,
Jahvid Best, 5-9, 195, California
Motario Hardesty, 5-11, 215, Tennessee
Charles Scott, 5-10, 235, LSU
Keiland Williams, 5-10, 225, LSU
Javarris James, 5-11, 215, Miami

FB & TE
I am not looking to draft either for a while

WR
Dez Bryant, 6-1, 215, Oklahoma State
Danario Alexander, 6-4, 210, Missouri

OL
Mike Johnson, 6-5, 300, Alabama
Jason Fox, 6-6, 310, Miami
Cord Howard, 6-4, 310, Georgia Tech


DE
Not that we need one
Brandon Graham, 6-2, 270, Michigan
Will Tukuafu, 6-3 280, Oregon

DT
Gerald McCoy, 6-3, 295, Oklahoma
Ndamukong Suh, 6-3, 300, Nebraska
Joe Joseph, 6-3, 304, Miami

MLB
Rolando McClain, 6-3, 255, Alabama
Brandon Spikes, 6-2, 260, Florida

OLB
Sean Witherspoon, 6-0, 245, Missouri
Darryl Sharpton ,6-0, 235, Miami
Colin McCarthy, 6-3, 242, Miami
Dakoda Wayson, 6-2, 226, Florida ST.

CB
Donovan Warren, 5-11, 180, Michigan notes loves to hit
Trevard Lindley, 5-11, 180, Kentucky
Javier Arenas, 5-9, 195, Alabama (PR)
Patrick Robinson, 5-10, 195, Florida State

Safeties
Eric Berry, 5-11, 205, Tennessee note worth a trade up for
Morgan Burnett, 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
Randy Phillips, 6-0, 210, Miami
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Tech

Punter
Zoltan Mesko, 6-5, 240, Michigan note left footed punter strong leg
Jake Harry, 6-1, 195, Missouri[/QUOTE]

[Roy P]

RB
Jonathan Dwyer, 5-11, 230,
Jahvid Best, 5-9, 195, California
Motario Hardesty, 5-11, 215, Tennessee
Charles Scott, 5-10, 235, LSU
Keiland Williams, 5-10, 225, LSU
Javarris James, 5-11, 215, Miami

[/QUOTE]

OK, I know he's a Junior and appears to be smaller than ideal, but holy crap! This guy looks like he'd be a really good player at the next level.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVPuzPacWDY

[nunusguy]

Anybody else get a look-see at Ndamukong Suh last night when his team went up against Mizzou ? Very impressive I thought.

[painekiller]

This will be a work in progress, guys added and dropped

This only a list not a ranking. Especially as we go forward, guys will be added at the bottom of their positions

QBs
Jonathan Crompton, 6-3, 230, Tennessee notes WCO prostyle offense
Tony Pike, 6-5, 225, Cincinnati


RB
Jonathan Dwyer, 5-11, 230,
Jahvid Best, 5-9, 195, California
Motario Hardesty, 5-11, 215, Tennessee
Charles Scott, 5-10, 235, LSU
Keiland Williams, 5-10, 225, LSU
Javarris James, 5-11, 215, Miami
Kendall Hunter, 5-8, 190, Oklahoma State
John Clay, 6-2, 247, Wisconsin


FB & TE
I am not looking to draft either for a while

WR
Dez Bryant, 6-1, 215, Oklahoma State
Danario Alexander, 6-4, 210, Missouri
Brandon LaFell, 6-2, 210, LSU
Wes Lyons, 6-7, 230, West VirginiaOL
Mike Johnson, 6-5, 300, Alabama
Jason Fox, 6-6, 310, Miami
Cord Howard, 6-4, 310, Georgia Tech
Kevin Matthews, 6-3, 315, Texas A&M


DE
Not that we need one
Brandon Graham, 6-2, 270, Michigan
Will Tukuafu, 6-3 280, Oregon

DT
Gerald McCoy, 6-3, 295, Oklahoma
Ndamukong Suh, 6-3, 300, Nebraska
Joe Joseph, 6-3, 304, Miami
Vince Oghobaase, 6-5, 310, Duke
Dan Williams, 6-2, 325, Tennessee
Boo Robinson, 6-2, 325, Wake Forest


MLB
Rolando McClain, 6-3, 255, Alabama
Brandon Spikes, 6-2, 260, Florida

OLB
Sean Witherspoon, 6-0, 245, Missouri
Darryl Sharpton ,6-0, 235, Miami
Colin McCarthy, 6-3, 242, Miami
Dakoda Wayson, 6-2, 226, Florida ST.

CB
Donovan Warren, 5-11, 180, Michigan notes loves to hit
Trevard Lindley, 5-11, 180, Kentucky
Javier Arenas, 5-9, 195, Alabama (PR)
Patrick Robinson, 5-10, 195, Florida State

Safeties
Eric Berry, 5-11, 205, Tennessee note worth a trade up for
Morgan Burnett, 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
Randy Phillips, 6-0, 210, Miami
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Tech

Punter
Zoltan Mesko, 6-5, 240, Michigan note left footed punter strong leg
Jake Harry, 6-1, 195, Missouri

[Roy P]

Anybody else get a look-see at Ndamukong Suh last night when his team went up against Mizzou ? Very impressive I thought.

Yeah, I tuned in to watch and that guy should be the 1st pick of the draft. I know he's not a QB, but he could be the next Albert Haynesworth for a defense to build around.

Of course, the Mizzou O-Line isn't much of a test. They have pretty wide spreads between the OLinemen allowing the gaps to be attacked. Anyway, he was a beast in the rain.

My man, Weatherspoon didn't dissapoint me either.

[Roy P]

I noticed UH , in addition to one super QB, has some excellent looking WR's.

Did you get a look at Brandon Brinkley? 6'0" 186lbs with 7 INTs, 29 PDs, and 122 tackles, not a bad CB prospect.

[painekiller]

This will be a work in progress, guys added and dropped

This only a list not a ranking. Especially as we go forward, guys will be added at the bottom of their positions

QBs
Jonathan Crompton, 6-3, 230, Tennessee notes WCO prostyle offense
Tony Pike, 6-5, 225, Cincinnati
Zac Robinson, 6-3, 220, Oklahoma State

RB
Jonathan Dwyer, 5-11, 230,
Jahvid Best, 5-9, 195, California
Motario Hardesty, 5-11, 215, Tennessee
Charles Scott, 5-10, 235, LSU
Keiland Williams, 5-10, 225, LSU
Javarris James, 5-11, 215, Miami
Kendall Hunter, 5-8, 190, Oklahoma State
John Clay, 6-2, 247, Wisconsin


FB & TE
I am not looking to draft either for a while

WR
Dez Bryant, 6-1, 215, Oklahoma State
Danario Alexander, 6-4, 210, Missouri
Brandon LaFell, 6-2, 210, LSU
Wes Lyons, 6-7, 230, West Virginia
Seyi Ajirotutu, 6-2, 210, Fresno State

OL
Mike Johnson, 6-5, 300, Alabama
Jason Fox, 6-6, 310, Miami
Cord Howard, 6-4, 310, Georgia Tech
Kevin Matthews, 6-3, 315, Texas A&M
Russell Okung, 6-5, 305, Oklahoma State


DE
Not that we need one
Brandon Graham, 6-2, 270, Michigan
Will Tukuafu, 6-3 280, Oregon

DT
Gerald McCoy, 6-3, 295, Oklahoma
Ndamukong Suh, 6-3, 300, Nebraska
Joe Joseph, 6-3, 304, Miami
Vince Oghobaase, 6-5, 310, Duke
Dan Williams, 6-2, 325, Tennessee
Boo Robinson, 6-2, 325, Wake Forest
*Brian Price, 6-2, 295, UCLA


MLB
Rolando McClain, 6-3, 255, Alabama
Brandon Spikes, 6-2, 260, Florida
Reggie Carter, 6-0, 240, UCLA
Donald Booker, 5-10, 235, Oklahoma State

OLB
Sean Witherspoon, 6-0, 245, Missouri
Darryl Sharpton ,6-0, 235, Miami
Colin McCarthy, 6-3, 242, Miami
Dakoda Wayson, 6-2, 226, Florida ST.
Rico McCoy, 6-0, 225, Tennessee

CB
Donovan Warren, 5-11, 180, Michigan notes loves to hit
Trevard Lindley, 5-11, 180, Kentucky
Javier Arenas, 5-9, 195, Alabama (PR)
Patrick Robinson, 5-10, 195, Florida State
Robert McClain, 5-9, 200, UConn

Safeties
Eric Berry, 5-11, 205, Tennessee note worth a trade up for
Morgan Burnett, 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
Randy Phillips, 6-0, 210, Miami
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Tech
Jordan Lake, 6-1, 210, Baylor
Justin Woodall, 6-1, 220, Alabama

Punter
Zoltan Mesko, 6-5, 240, Michigan note left footed punter strong leg
Jake Harry, 6-1, 195, Missouri[/QUOTE]

[NBT]

What we need is coverage, tackling machine, secondary types.

[Roy P]

What we need is coverage, tackling machine, secondary types.

We keep playing the way we are and we'll be able to draft Eric Berry.

Then maybe we could draft Brandon Ghee in the second round.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caoFYBPKZVA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCmcOSXs8Jc

[painekiller]

We keep playing the way we are and we'll be able to draft Eric Berry.

Then maybe we could draft Brandon Ghee in the second round.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caoFYBPKZVA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCmcOSXs8Jc

I'm seeing Ghee falling into the 3rd on some mocks. Don't understand that but you know pre-bowl game mocks. Have not had a chance to watch Wake play or he would be on my list. Might have to add him anyway.

[Roy P]

I'm seeing Ghee falling into the 3rd on some mocks. Don't understand that but you know pre-bowl game mocks. Have not had a chance to watch Wake play or he would be on my list. Might have to add him anyway.

I'd be fine selecting Ghee in the 3rd round. :D
Can I get Jared Odrick in the 2nd?

[Roy P]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wz5IUfyZjQ

Just in case we can't get Taylor Mays or Eric Berry to play S for us in the draft.

Okay, I tuned in to watch Nate Allen play vs. Cinci last night and was pretty dissapointed. I'll have to downgrade him on my wants list. He had a tipped interception, but his eagerness to get into the fray and make a solo tackle looked weak.

[gunn]

Rolando McClain looks like the best linebacker in the country and a top 10 pick to me. I also like what I've seen of Golden Tate, I think he's going to be a really good pro. He kind of reminds me of a Hines Ward type of player.

[nunusguy]

Houston Texans: Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford
The Texans could be 7-1 right now if they had a running back who could plunge into the end zone from the 1-yard line. We'll see if Ryan Moats is the answer, but I have my doubts.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2010_3.php
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Given the opportunity to watch some Standford games this year I caught a couple because I was interested to see how Andrew Luck, Stanfords red-shirt freshman QB from the Houston area, was playing and I got a look-see at this big tailback who at 'bout 230-235 is certainly not quick but maybe just
what we need as a compliment to Slaton/Moats ? Anyway looks like Walter has us taking him in the 3rd round on a recent mock, but dunno if Kubiabk
would go that high for this thumper, assuming he'd even be interested ? Also, he's a steller baseball prospect which makes for additional risk if picked ?

[Nconroe]

We have two RB on the practice squad. Wonder if either of them will get a shot one of these days?

[painekiller]

This will be a work in progress, guys added and dropped

This only a list not a ranking. Especially as we go forward, guys will be added at the bottom of their positions

QBs
Jonathan Crompton, 6-3, 230, Tennessee notes WCO prostyle offense
Tony Pike, 6-5, 225, Cincinnati
Zac Robinson, 6-3, 220, Oklahoma State
Jarrod Johnson 6-5 243 Texas A&M most likely 2011
*Case Keenum 6-1.5, 226, Houston

RB
Jonathan Dwyer, 5-11, 230,
Jahvid Best, 5-9, 195, California
Motario Hardesty, 5-11, 215, Tennessee
Charles Scott, 5-10, 235, LSU
Keiland Williams, 5-10, 225, LSU
Javarris James, 5-11, 215, Miami
Kendall Hunter, 5-8, 190, Oklahoma State
John Clay, 6-2, 247, Wisconsin
C.J. Spiller, 5-10, 195, Clemson



FB & TE
I am not looking to draft either for a while

WR
Dez Bryant, 6-1, 215, Oklahoma State
Danario Alexander, 6-4, 210, Missouri
Brandon LaFell, 6-2, 210, LSU
Wes Lyons, 6-7, 230, West Virginia
Seyi Ajirotutu, 6-2, 210, Fresno State
Mardy Gilyard ,6-0, 190, Cincinnati

OL
Mike Johnson, 6-5, 300, Alabama
Jason Fox, 6-6, 310, Miami
Cord Howard, 6-4, 310, Georgia Tech
Kevin Matthews, 6-3, 315, Texas A&M
Russell Okung, 6-5, 305, Oklahoma State
Adam Ulatoski, 6-6, 310, Texas
Sergio Render, 6-3, 313, Virginia Tech
Mike Iupati, 6-5, 330, Idaho

DE
Not that we need one
Brandon Graham, 6-2, 270, Michigan
Will Tukuafu, 6-3 280, Oregon

DT
Gerald McCoy, 6-3, 295, Oklahoma
Ndamukong Suh, 6-3, 300, Nebraska
Joe Joseph, 6-3, 304, Miami
Vince Oghobaase, 6-5, 310, Duke
Dan Williams, 6-2, 325, Tennessee
Boo Robinson, 6-2, 325, Wake Forest
*Brian Price, 6-2, 295, UCLA


MLB
Rolando McClain, 6-3, 255, Alabama
Brandon Spikes, 6-2, 260, Florida
Reggie Carter, 6-0, 240, UCLA
Donald Booker, 5-10, 235, Oklahoma State

OLB
Sean Witherspoon, 6-0, 245, Missouri
Darryl Sharpton ,6-0, 235, Miami
Colin McCarthy, 6-3, 242, Miami
Dakoda Wayson, 6-2, 226, Florida ST.
Rico McCoy, 6-0, 225, Tennessee
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Techmoved by me to OLB

CB
Donovan Warren, 5-11, 180, Michigan notes loves to hit
Trevard Lindley, 5-11, 180, Kentucky
Javier Arenas, 5-9, 195, Alabama (PR)
Patrick Robinson, 5-10, 195, Florida State
Robert McClain, 5-9, 200, UConn

Safeties
Eric Berry, 5-11, 205, Tennessee note worth a trade up for
Morgan Burnett, 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
Randy Phillips, 6-0, 210, Miami
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Tech
Jordan Lake, 6-1, 210, Baylor
Justin Woodall, 6-1, 220, Alabama

Punter
Zoltan Mesko, 6-5, 240, Michigan note left footed punter strong leg
Jake Harry, 6-1, 195, Missouri

[Roy P]

RB

OL
Mike Johnson, 6-5, 300, Alabama
Jason Fox, 6-6, 310, Miami
Cord Howard, 6-4, 310, Georgia Tech
Kevin Matthews, 6-3, 315, Texas A&M
Russell Okung, 6-5, 305, Oklahoma State
Adam Ulatoski, 6-6, 310, Texas
Sergio Render, 6-3, 313, Virginia Tech



You should add Mike Iupati from Idaho.

We might want to start looking for a Kicker, too.

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You should add Mike Iupati from Idaho.

We might want to start looking for a Kicker, too.

Drafting a kicker is hard, I think the better route is to look at the Arena guys. Also look at tapes from the last couple of preseasons and the other teams cuts, someone may have been close and is now ready for their shot.

Iupati is added.

[painekiller]

This will be a work in progress, guys added and dropped

This only a list not a ranking. Especially as we go forward, guys will be added at the bottom of their positions

QBs
Jonathan Crompton, 6-3, 230, Tennessee notes WCO prostyle offense
Tony Pike, 6-5, 225, Cincinnati
Zac Robinson, 6-3, 220, Oklahoma State
Jarrod Johnson 6-5 243 Texas A&M most likely 2011
*Case Keenum 6-1.5, 226, Houston

RB
Jonathan Dwyer, 5-11, 230,
Jahvid Best, 5-9, 195, California
Motario Hardesty, 5-11, 215, Tennessee
Charles Scott, 5-10, 235, LSU
Keiland Williams, 5-10, 225, LSU
Javarris James, 5-11, 215, Miami
Kendall Hunter, 5-8, 190, Oklahoma State
John Clay, 6-2, 247, Wisconsin
C.J. Spiller, 5-10, 195, Clemson
Toby Gerhart, 6-0, 240, Stanford



FB & TE
I am not looking to draft either for a while

WR
Dez Bryant, 6-1, 215, Oklahoma State
Danario Alexander, 6-4, 210, Missouri
Brandon LaFell, 6-2, 210, LSU
Wes Lyons, 6-7, 230, West Virginia
Seyi Ajirotutu, 6-2, 210, Fresno State
Mardy Gilyard ,6-0, 190, Cincinnati

OL
Mike Johnson, 6-5, 300, Alabama
Jason Fox, 6-6, 310, Miami
Cord Howard, 6-4, 310, Georgia Tech
Kevin Matthews, 6-3, 315, Texas A&M
Russell Okung, 6-5, 305, Oklahoma State
Adam Ulatoski, 6-6, 310, Texas
Sergio Render, 6-3, 313, Virginia Tech
Mike Iupati, 6-5, 330, Idaho
Chris Marinelli, 6-6, 315, Stanford
Selvish Capers, 6-4, 310, West Virginia
J.D. Walton, 6-3, 305, Baylor


DE
Not that we need one
Brandon Graham, 6-2, 270, Michigan
Will Tukuafu, 6-3 280, Oregon

DT
Gerald McCoy, 6-3, 295, Oklahoma
Ndamukong Suh, 6-3, 300, Nebraska
Joe Joseph, 6-3, 304, Miami
Vince Oghobaase, 6-5, 310, Duke
Dan Williams, 6-2, 325, Tennessee
Boo Robinson, 6-2, 325, Wake Forest
*Brian Price, 6-2, 295, UCLA
Ekom Udofia, 6-2, 322, Stanford


MLB
Rolando McClain, 6-3, 255, Alabama
Brandon Spikes, 6-2, 260, Florida
Reggie Carter, 6-0, 240, UCLA
Donald Booker, 5-10, 235, Oklahoma State

OLB
Sean Witherspoon, 6-0, 245, Missouri
Darryl Sharpton ,6-0, 235, Miami
Colin McCarthy, 6-3, 242, Miami
Dakoda Wayson, 6-2, 226, Florida ST.
Rico McCoy, 6-0, 225, Tennessee
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Tech moved by me to OLB
*Bruce Carter, 6-2, 230, North Carolina

CB
Donovan Warren, 5-11, 180, Michigan notes loves to hit
Trevard Lindley, 5-11, 180, Kentucky
Javier Arenas, 5-9, 195, Alabama (PR)
Patrick Robinson, 5-10, 195, Florida State
Robert McClain, 5-9, 200, UConn

Safeties
Eric Berry, 5-11, 205, Tennessee note worth a trade up for
Morgan Burnett, 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
Randy Phillips, 6-0, 210, Miami
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Tech
Jordan Lake, 6-1, 210, Baylor
Justin Woodall, 6-1, 220, Alabama

Punter
Zoltan Mesko, 6-5, 240, Michigan note left footed punter strong leg
Jake Harry, 6-1, 195, Missouri[/QUOTE]

[gunn]

Rolando McClain looks like the best linebacker in the country and a top 10 pick to me. I also like what I've seen of Golden Tate, I think he's going to be a really good pro. He kind of reminds me of a Hines Ward type of player.

Just wanted to reiterate my thoughts on Golden Tate. I would love to have this kid as my number two reciever. I'm also adding Joe Haden near the top of my list. Bruce Carter is another player that has impressed me from the linebacker spot. I think he would make an nice inside backer in a 34. He seems to shed blocks well and is a sure tackler.

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Bruce Carter is another player that has impressed me from the linebacker spot. I think he would make an nice inside backer in a 34. He seems to shed blocks well and is a sure tackler.

Bruce Carter is a junior, so we are not sure he will leave school early, and he has is a little on the lite side for a 3-4 LB, being only 230lbs. But might be a good candidate for the WILL.

He is added above.

[gunn]

Bruce Carter is a junior, so we are not sure he will leave school early, and he has is a little on the lite side for a 3-4 LB, being only 230lbs. But might be a good candidate for the WILL.

He is added above.


He has also said that he is returning for his senior season... but that can always change. As for being listed at 230... I not sure how accurate that is and maybe my eyes are off... but he seems to be playing at a heavier weight than that.

[Roy P]

RB
Toby Gerhart, 6-0, 240, Stanford


[/QUOTE]

I really like this guy. So much for being a sleeper. :rolleyes:

[painekiller]

I really like this guy. So much for being a sleeper. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

He should be a Heisman finalist. And he reminds me of John Riggins, or a short Larry Csonka.

[painekiller]

He has also said that he is returning for his senior season... but that can always change. As for being listed at 230... I not sure how accurate that is and maybe my eyes are off... but he seems to be playing at a heavier weight than that.

NC has him listed as 225lbs. Most colleges add weight, they don't usually subtract it. But he could have gained since the season started.

[bono]

i have a man crush on Cody from Bama and Suh from Nebraska.

[TexanJedi]

i have a man crush on Cody from Bama and Suh from Nebraska.

Well, in the unlikely event the Texans bring in Bill Cowher, we're going to need a nose tackle as we almost surely switch back to the 3-4. Mount Cody fits the bill.

[painekiller]

Well, in the unlikely event the Texans bring in Bill Cowher, we're going to need a nose tackle as we almost surely switch back to the 3-4. Mount Cody fits the bill.

Or the better bet is that The Texans sign Casey Hampton to play the NT, better because he is already a success at that position. Plus Cody IMO is over hyped and out of shape, and I question how many plays he can play in a row.

I would rather go for a big guy latter in the draft.

[mussop]

Looks like this upcoming draft is going to be hard for us Texan fans to scout for. We wont know for anohter few weeks whether we will be getting a new coach and scheme. You may need to add 3/4 OLB or DE's to your list.

If we do bring in Cowher one guy we need to look at is Derrick Morgan 6-4, 272 4.68 Georgia Tech. This guy will be a beast as a OLB in a 3/4.

[painekiller]

Looks like this upcoming draft is going to be hard for us Texan fans to scout for. We wont know for anohter few weeks whether we will be getting a new coach and scheme. You may need to add 3/4 OLB or DE's to your list.

If we do bring in Cowher one guy we need to look at is Derrick Morgan 6-4, 272 4.68 Georgia Tech. This guy will be a beast as a OLB in a 3/4.

I think we have our 3-4 OLB now, Barwin and Cushing. I play Mario as an attaching DE penetration is the key to stopping offenses.

[Fonz the Boss]

I want a 3-4 scheme here. The only bad thing about it is that our #1 overall pick with Mario Williams would go to waste. The same thing that happened to Aaron Kampman in Green Bay will happen with Mario. Mario will have to be content with taking on blocks for other guys to make the plays.

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I want a 3-4 scheme here. The only bad thing about it is that our #1 overall pick with Mario Williams would go to waste. The same thing that happened to Aaron Kampman in Green Bay will happen with Mario. Mario will have to be content with taking on blocks for other guys to make the plays.

Which is what he is doing now. I know he has a hurt shoulder and should not be playing. Hopefully when we fall out of the playoffs, he gets the surgery done so he will be ready for next season.

[mussop]

I think we have our 3-4 OLB now, Barwin and Cushing. I play Mario as an attaching DE penetration is the key to stopping offenses.

I dont think the transition from a 4/3 to a 3/4 will be that difficult.

#1 need - a BIG DT.
Options
Wilfork FA
Hampton FA
Mount Cody from Alabama DRAFT
There are a couple more possibilities in the draft as well.

#2 need - improve the LB's
Great thing about Cushing is that he can play inside or out. That means we can go after the best available LB whether he plays inside or out. Spikes, Rolando McLain, Micah Johnson, Sergio Kindle, Sean Weatherspoon, Eric Norwood, Greg Hardy, Derrick Morgan, Corey Wooton, Jerry Hughes, Brandon Graham are all good fits for a 3/4.

Obvioulsy the first thing to do is get center peice. Go hard after Hampton and Wilfork. Second option would be draft one like Cody.

Lets say we get Hampton who wants to join back up with Cowher. That completes our line. We now have Mario- Hampton- Smith up front. Now lets move to the secod level. There are a lot of options here. Im going to go with Brandon Spikes. He plays with an edge and thats how youre LB's have to play in a 3/4. Remember the poke in the eye incident? Wow with Mario and Hampton pushing the middle, Spikes and Smith cheap shotting people and Cushing, Demeco and Barwin flying around we might actually intimidate someone. Thats what I want a hard nosed defense that will get people out of their gameplan.

I could of gone with any of 5 players over Spikes and it looks just as good.
Rolando McLain, Micah Johnson, Derrick Morgan, Sergio Kindle, Sean Weatherspoon, Eric Norwood.

Mario - Hampton - Smith
Barwin - Ryans - Spikes - Cushing

Thats not a bad front seven to start with.

And I dont care what position we drafted Mario to play. If it makes the team better and helps us become a legit playoff team then its worth it. Besides I think he will be a better player in the 3/4. He is more than capable of dropping into coverage occasionally to confuse QB's. Lining him up between Hampton and Barwin and blitzing would mean 1 on 1 for Mario with a guard.

I actually think he is taylor made for this. He is not the speed rusher some think he is. That has been proven this year. I know he hs been hurt but too large a % of his plays are him getting rode out of the play trying to run around the OT. Those plays are a complete waste of him being on the feild. Hes being totally nuetralized by 1 player. At least in a 3/4 he would be getting one on one with a guard or tying up the OT so a LB can shoot through. We know hes good at tying up OT's. :P

Now thats fixed and we still have the rest of our draft picks to draft a safety and a couple OG's with sand in their pants. Seems simple to me. I just dont understand why some think it would be so hard switching to a 3/4.

With a good NT the rest of our defense might not be exactly what you look for in a traditional 3/4 but it does have enough talent to work. Denver had less talent then us when they switched and they are ranked #5 total defense right now.

In fact 4 out of the top five defenses right now are 3/4 and 2 out of those 4 just switched this year. Denver (#5) and Green Bay (#1). And the other 3/4 top defense (#3) is Pittsburg, who runs the exact sytem we are talking about here.

If you look at Green Bay and Denvers defensive depth chart at the beginning of this year. (beforer the draft and free agency) I bet we have fairly equal talent if not better than either of them. If they can do it and do it at that level then we should be able to too.

[painekiller]

I dont think the transition from a 4/3 to a 3/4 will be that difficult.

#1 need - a BIG DT.
Options
Wilfork FA
Hampton FA
Mount Cody from Alabama DRAFT
There are a couple more possibilities in the draft as well.

#2 need - improve the LB's
Great thing about Cushing is that he can play inside or out. That means we can go after the best available LB whether he plays inside or out. Spikes, Rolando McLain, Micah Johnson, Sergio Kindle, Sean Weatherspoon, Eric Norwood, Greg Hardy, Derrick Morgan, Corey Wooton, Jerry Hughes, Brandon Graham are all good fits for a 3/4.

Obvioulsy the first thing to do is get center peice. Go hard after Hampton and Wilfork. Second option would be draft one like Cody.

Lets say we get Hampton who wants to join back up with Cowher. That completes our line. We now have Mario- Hampton- Smith up front. Now lets move to the secod level. There are a lot of options here. Im going to go with Brandon Spikes. He plays with an edge and thats how youre LB's have to play in a 3/4. Remember the poke in the eye incident? Wow with Mario and Hampton pushing the middle, Spikes and Smith cheap shotting people and Cushing, Demeco and Barwin flying around we might actually intimidate someone. Thats what I want a hard nosed defense that will get people out of their gameplan.

I could of gone with any of 5 players over Spikes and it looks just as good.
Rolando McLain, Micah Johnson, Derrick Morgan, Sergio Kindle, Sean Weatherspoon, Eric Norwood.

Mario - Hampton - Smith
Barwin - Ryans - Spikes - Cushing

Thats not a bad front seven to start with.

.

Here's a thought go after both Wilfork and Hampton and have a Jumbo DT pair for a short yardage package.

As for Spikes, the eye poking incedent has lowered him in my book. That is the type thing that get players suspended in the NFL.

I am leaning Rolando McLain, he plays the middle in the 3-4 now.

[mussop]

Here's a thought go after both Wilfork and Hampton and have a Jumbo DT pair for a short yardage package.

As for Spikes, the eye poking incedent has lowered him in my book. That is the type thing that get players suspended in the NFL.

I am leaning Rolando McLain, he plays the middle in the 3-4 now.

I have had Rolondo as my top LB all year but he has dissapointed me lately. He seemed to have lost his fire in the Auburn game. He was just blah. You can hold the eye poking incident against Spikes but you cant deny his play. That guy brings it every play. I would love to see a LB crew of

Barwin, Ryans, Spikes, Cushing.

Actually there are several really good options in the upcoming draft that would help make a switch to a 3/4 a smooth transition.

[painekiller]

I have had Rolondo as my top LB all year but he has dissapointed me lately. He seemed to have lost his fire in the Auburn game. He was just blah. You can hold the eye poking incident against Spikes but you cant deny his play. That guy brings it every play. I would love to see a LB crew of

Barwin, Ryans, Spikes, Cushing.

Actually there are several really good options in the upcoming draft that would help make a switch to a 3/4 a smooth transition.

Weatherspoon, Ricky Sapp, Sergio Kindle, Micah Johnson, Joe Pawelek, Greg Hardy, George Selvie and Von Miller to name a few. Not saying I want any of these guys, just they could be used in a 3-4.

Weatherspoon is a guy I would be happy with.

[mussop]

Weatherspoon, Ricky Sapp, Sergio Kindle, Micah Johnson, Joe Pawelek, Greg Hardy, George Selvie and Von Miller to name a few. Not saying I want any of these guys, just they could be used in a 3-4.

Weatherspoon is a guy I would be happy with.

You left out the best one. Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech he is scary good.

This post is mine from another board. It fits good here so -

This draft is loaded with LB's. Rolondo has been at the top of my list all year. I watch him every chance I get. It has been said he is good enough to play OLB but I dont think that he could in the pros. If you watch the Auburn game they kept him out of the game by going to the outside alot. Hes not the same player when chasing down plays. He is as pure an ILB as you will ever see.

Also at ILB is Brandon Spikes ILB 6'3 252 Florida, despite the eye gouging incident he is an absolute stud that will be an instant starter in the pros and Micah Johnson ILB 6'2 256 Kentucky who is a thumper type who excels at plugging the lanes and shutting down the run.

At OLB there are some really nice prospects. If we stay with Kubiak and the 4/3 Sean Weatherspoon OLB 6'1 245 Missouri would give us the best LB crew in the NFL IMO. He's not a monster hitter but he flies around and makes plays all over the feild and most importantly, he is great in pass coverage. In the last 3 years he has had 375 tackles 40 TFL 11 1/2 SK 17 PBU and still has a game to play.

There are a couple of other notworthy's as well in Sean Lee ILB 6'2 235 Penn State who is an ILB but IMO will be a good OLB in the pro's and Eric Norwood OLB 6'0 257 South Carolina.

The ones that really excite me though are the 3/4 OLB's. If we do change coaches and switch to a 3/4 there are many options available that would make the transition a smooth one. Derrick Morgan will be a great one, Sergio Kindle, Greg Hardy, Corey Wootton, Jerry Hughes, Brandon Graham, Antonio Coleman, Ricky Sapp all look like they can play.

[gunn]

Dan Williams is a guy I'm looking for our first round pick. He looks an awful lot like BJ Raji on the field.

[painekiller]

Dan Williams is a guy I'm looking for our first round pick. He looks an awful lot like BJ Raji on the field.

Williams is the guy I would be willing to trade back into the 1st round for.

[Roy P]

This will be a work in progress, guys added and dropped

[OL
Mike Johnson, 6-5, 300, Alabama
Jason Fox, 6-6, 310, Miami
Cord Howard, 6-4, 310, Georgia Tech
Kevin Matthews, 6-3, 315, Texas A&M
Russell Okung, 6-5, 305, Oklahoma State
Adam Ulatoski, 6-6, 310, Texas
Sergio Render, 6-3, 313, Virginia Tech
Mike Iupati, 6-5, 330, Idaho
Chris Marinelli, 6-6, 315, Stanford
Selvish Capers, 6-4, 310, West Virginia
J.D. Walton, 6-3, 305, Baylor
[/QUOTE]

Kyle Calloway - IOWA

[painekiller]

This will be a work in progress, guys added and dropped

This only a list not a ranking. Especially as we go forward, guys will be added at the bottom of their positions

QBs
Jonathan Crompton, 6-3, 230, Tennessee notes WCO pro style offense
Tony Pike, 6-5, 225, Cincinnati
Zac Robinson, 6-3, 220, Oklahoma State
Jarrod Johnson 6-5 243 Texas A&M most likely 2011
*Case Keenum 6-1.5, 226, Houston

RB
Jonathan Dwyer, 5-11, 230,
Jahvid Best, 5-9, 195, California
Motario Hardesty, 5-11, 215, Tennessee
Charles Scott, 5-10, 235, LSU
Keiland Williams, 5-10, 225, LSU
Javarris James, 5-11, 215, Miami
Kendall Hunter, 5-8, 190, Oklahoma State
John Clay, 6-2, 247, Wisconsin
C.J. Spiller, 5-10, 195, Clemson
Toby Gerhart, 6-0, 240, Stanford

FB & TE
I am not looking to draft either for a while

WR
Dez Bryant, 6-1, 215, Oklahoma State
Danario Alexander, 6-4, 210, Missouri
Brandon LaFell, 6-2, 210, LSU
Wes Lyons, 6-7, 230, West Virginia
Seyi Ajirotutu, 6-2, 210, Fresno State
Mardy Gilyard ,6-0, 190, Cincinnati

OL
Mike Johnson, 6-5, 300, Alabama
Jason Fox, 6-6, 310, Miami
Cord Howard, 6-4, 310, Georgia Tech
Kevin Matthews, 6-3, 315, Texas A&M
Russell Okung, 6-5, 305, Oklahoma State
Adam Ulatoski, 6-6, 310, Texas
Sergio Render, 6-3, 313, Virginia Tech
Mike Iupati, 6-5, 330, Idaho
Chris Marinelli, 6-6, 315, Stanford
Selvish Capers, 6-4, 310, West Virginia
J.D. Walton, 6-3, 305, Baylor

Not that we need one
Brandon Graham, 6-2, 270, Michigan
Will Tukuafu, 6-3 280, Oregon

DT
Gerald McCoy, 6-3, 295, Oklahoma
Ndamukong Suh, 6-3, 300, Nebraska
Joe Joseph, 6-3, 304, Miami
Vince Oghobaase, 6-5, 310, Duke
Dan Williams, 6-2, 325, Tennessee Worth a trade back into the 1st for.
Boo Robinson, 6-2, 325, Wake Forest
*Brian Price, 6-2, 295, UCLA
Ekom Udofia, 6-2, 322, Stanford


MLB
Rolando McClain, 6-3, 255, Alabama
Brandon Spikes, 6-2, 260, Florida
Reggie Carter, 6-0, 240, UCLA
Donald Booker, 5-10, 235, Oklahoma State

OLB
Sean Witherspoon, 6-0, 245, Missouri
Darryl Sharpton ,6-0, 235, Miami
Colin McCarthy, 6-3, 242, Miami
Dakoda Wayson, 6-2, 226, Florida ST.
Rico McCoy, 6-0, 225, Tennessee
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Tech moved by me to OLB
*Bruce Carter, 6-2, 230, North Carolina


CB
Donovan Warren, 5-11, 180, Michigan notes loves to hit
Trevard Lindley, 5-11, 180, Kentucky
Javier Arenas, 5-9, 195, Alabama (PR)
Patrick Robinson, 5-10, 195, Florida State
Robert McClain, 5-9, 200, UConn

Safeties
Eric Berry, 5-11, 205, Tennessee note worth a trade up for
Morgan Burnett, 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
Randy Phillips, 6-0, 210, Miami
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Tech
Jordan Lake, 6-1, 210, Baylor
Justin Woodall, 6-1, 220, Alabama

Punter
Zoltan Mesko, 6-5, 240, Michigan note left footed punter strong leg
Jake Harry, 6-1, 195, Missouri


I have not inluded Taylor Mays on purpose, He is not good in covereage and his tackling sucks. He reminds me of Roy Williams. Might be a solid WILL.

[edo783]

MMmm, left footed punter might cause more fumbles. Any way to know his hang time and distance average?

[mussop]

You need to check out Bruce Carter NC LB. Dude is good.

Also the Pouncey twins from Florida and I will be very interested in Charles Brown USC OT at the Combine. If he is around 300 lbs he could be perfect for the ZB scheme. He looks very athletic and could be a good mid round pick up.

[painekiller]

You need to check out Bruce Carter NC LB. Dude is good.

Also the Pouncey twins from Florida and I will be very interested in Charles Brown USC OT at the Combine. If he is around 300 lbs he could be perfect for the ZB scheme. He looks very athletic and could be a good mid round pick up.

Thought I had added the twins, thanks for catching that. I've been seeing them ranked with OC in the 2nd and the OG as a 3rd rounder, so it would be possible to draft both.

[painekiller]

This will be a work in progress, guys added and dropped

This only a list not a ranking. Especially as we go forward, guys will be added at the bottom of their positions

QBs
Jonathan Crompton, 6-3, 230, Tennessee notes WCO pro style offense
Tony Pike, 6-5, 225, Cincinnati
Zac Robinson, 6-3, 220, Oklahoma State
Jarrod Johnson 6-5 243 Texas A&M most likely 2011
*Case Keenum 6-1.5, 226, Houston

RB
Jonathan Dwyer, 5-11, 230,
Jahvid Best, 5-9, 195, California
Motario Hardesty, 5-11, 215, Tennessee
Charles Scott, 5-10, 235, LSU
Keiland Williams, 5-10, 225, LSU
Javarris James, 5-11, 215, Miami
Kendall Hunter, 5-8, 190, Oklahoma State
John Clay, 6-2, 247, Wisconsin
C.J. Spiller, 5-10, 195, Clemson
Toby Gerhart, 6-0, 240, Stanford

FB & TE
I am not looking to draft either for a while

WR
Dez Bryant, 6-1, 215, Oklahoma State
Danario Alexander, 6-4, 210, Missouri
Brandon LaFell, 6-2, 210, LSU
Wes Lyons, 6-7, 230, West Virginia
Seyi Ajirotutu, 6-2, 210, Fresno State
Mardy Gilyard ,6-0, 190, Cincinnati

OL
Mike Johnson, 6-5, 300, Alabama
Jason Fox, 6-6, 310, Miami
Cord Howard, 6-4, 310, Georgia Tech
Kevin Matthews, 6-3, 315, Texas A&M
Russell Okung, 6-5, 305, Oklahoma State
Adam Ulatoski, 6-6, 310, Texas
Sergio Render, 6-3, 313, Virginia Tech
Mike Iupati, 6-5, 330, Idaho
Chris Marinelli, 6-6, 315, Stanford
Selvish Capers, 6-4, 310, West Virginia
J.D. Walton, 6-3, 305, Baylor
*Maurkice Pouncey, 6-5, 320, Florida OC
*Mike Pouncey, 6-5, 320, Florida, OG


Not that we need one
Brandon Graham, 6-2, 270, Michigan
Will Tukuafu, 6-3 280, Oregon

DT
Gerald McCoy, 6-3, 295, Oklahoma
Ndamukong Suh, 6-3, 300, Nebraska
Joe Joseph, 6-3, 304, Miami
Vince Oghobaase, 6-5, 310, Duke
Dan Williams, 6-2, 325, Tennessee Worth a trade back into the 1st for.
Boo Robinson, 6-2, 325, Wake Forest
*Brian Price, 6-2, 295, UCLA
Ekom Udofia, 6-2, 322, Stanford


MLB
Rolando McClain, 6-3, 255, Alabama
Brandon Spikes, 6-2, 260, Florida
Reggie Carter, 6-0, 240, UCLA
Donald Booker, 5-10, 235, Oklahoma State

OLB
Sean Witherspoon, 6-0, 245, Missouri
Darryl Sharpton ,6-0, 235, Miami
Colin McCarthy, 6-3, 242, Miami
Dakoda Wayson, 6-2, 226, Florida ST.
Rico McCoy, 6-0, 225, Tennessee
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Tech moved by me to OLB
*Bruce Carter, 6-2, 230, North Carolina


CB
Donovan Warren, 5-11, 180, Michigan notes loves to hit
Trevard Lindley, 5-11, 180, Kentucky
Javier Arenas, 5-9, 195, Alabama (PR)
Patrick Robinson, 5-10, 195, Florida State
Robert McClain, 5-9, 200, UConn

Safeties
Eric Berry, 5-11, 205, Tennessee note worth a trade up for
Morgan Burnett, 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
Randy Phillips, 6-0, 210, Miami
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Tech
Jordan Lake, 6-1, 210, Baylor
Justin Woodall, 6-1, 220, Alabama

Punter
Zoltan Mesko, 6-5, 240, Michigan note left footed punter strong leg
Jake Harry, 6-1, 195, Missouri


I have not inluded Taylor Mays on purpose, He is not good in covereage and his tackling sucks. He reminds me of Roy Williams. Might be a solid WILL.

[painekiller]

MMmm, left footed punter might cause more fumbles. Any way to know his hang time and distance average?

from Wikipedia

Punting
Season Team GP Punts Avg Long Yds
2006 Michigan 13 50 41.6 64 2,079
2007 Michigan 13 70 41.1 68 2,876
2008 Michigan 12 80 43.0 63 3,436
2009 Michigan 12 52 44.5 66 2,312
Career totals 50 252 42.5 68 10,703


IN an article in Scout.com talking about him coming out of HS, his practice hang times in HS where 5.2 seconds. Pro's average 4.7. Not sure of his current numbers.

[edo783]

IN an article in Scout.com talking about him coming out of HS, his practice hang times in HS where 5.2 seconds. Pro's average 4.7. Not sure of his current numbers.

Looks pretty good. Certainly a guy to watch.

[nero THE zero]

If we do bring in Cowher one guy we need to look at is Derrick Morgan 6-4, 272 4.68 Georgia Tech. This guy will be a beast as a OLB in a 3/4.

I don't understand where this sentiment is coming from as I've seen it from several different places. Just because Morgan projects as a RDE doesn't mean he can move to 3-4 OLB.

I mean, I'm not scout, but I am a Georgia Tech fan and have watched a lot of Derrick Morgan, and he is not a LB. He's a classic DE and reminds me a lot of Freeney in the way he plays.

The idea of him playing LB is silly to me and almost absurd.

[NBT]

Nice work PK, keep it up. Only a little over 4 months till the Draft and we find out for sure who we will get.

Since NFL Draft Scout went bye bye, I don't really have a good draft source anymore.

[mussop]

I don't understand where this sentiment is coming from as I've seen it from several different places. Just because Morgan projects as a RDE doesn't mean he can move to 3-4 OLB.

I mean, I'm not scout, but I am a Georgia Tech fan and have watched a lot of Derrick Morgan, and he is not a LB. He's a classic DE and reminds me a lot of Freeney in the way he plays.

The idea of him playing LB is silly to me and almost absurd.


Outside linebacker (weak side, away from the tight end): "He's the rusher, he's the speed guy. Has to be good enough in the rush to beat tackles one-on-one enough to make plays and always beat any backs who try to block him."

What about him makes yo think he couldnt do this?

[painekiller]

This will be a work in progress, guys added and dropped

This only a list not a ranking. Especially as we go forward, guys will be added at the bottom of their positions

QBs
Jonathan Crompton, 6-3, 230, Tennessee notes WCO pro style offense
Tony Pike, 6-5, 225, Cincinnati
Zac Robinson, 6-3, 220, Oklahoma State
Jarrod Johnson 6-5 243 Texas A&M most likely 2011
*Case Keenum 6-1.5, 226, Houston

RB
Jonathan Dwyer, 5-11, 230,
Jahvid Best, 5-9, 195, California
Motario Hardesty, 5-11, 215, Tennessee
Charles Scott, 5-10, 235, LSU
Keiland Williams, 5-10, 225, LSU
Javarris James, 5-11, 215, Miami
Kendall Hunter, 5-8, 190, Oklahoma State
John Clay, 6-2, 247, Wisconsin
C.J. Spiller, 5-10, 195, Clemson
Toby Gerhart, 6-0, 240, Stanford
DeMaundray Woolridge, 5-8, 223, Idaho

FB & TE
I am not looking to draft either for a while

WR
Dez Bryant, 6-1, 215, Oklahoma State
Danario Alexander, 6-4, 210, Missouri
Brandon LaFell, 6-2, 210, LSU
Wes Lyons, 6-7, 230, West Virginia
Seyi Ajirotutu, 6-2, 210, Fresno State
Mardy Gilyard ,6-0, 190, Cincinnati
Freddie Barnes, 6-1, 209, Bowling Green
Max Komar, 5-10, 200, Idaho

OL
Mike Johnson, 6-5, 300, Alabama
Jason Fox, 6-6, 310, Miami
Cord Howard, 6-4, 310, Georgia Tech
Kevin Matthews, 6-3, 315, Texas A&M
Russell Okung, 6-5, 305, Oklahoma State
Adam Ulatoski, 6-6, 310, Texas
Sergio Render, 6-3, 313, Virginia Tech
Mike Iupati, 6-5, 330, Idaho
Chris Marinelli, 6-6, 315, Stanford
Selvish Capers, 6-4, 310, West Virginia
J.D. Walton, 6-3, 305, Baylor
*Maurkice Pouncey, 6-5, 320, Florida OC
*Mike Pouncey, 6-5, 320, Florida, OG
Jon Asamoah, 6-4, 312, Illinois

Not that we need one
Brandon Graham, 6-2, 270, Michigan
Will Tukuafu, 6-3 280, Oregon

DT
Gerald McCoy, 6-3, 295, Oklahoma
Ndamukong Suh, 6-3, 300, Nebraska
Joe Joseph, 6-3, 304, Miami
Vince Oghobaase, 6-5, 310, Duke
Dan Williams, 6-2, 325, Tennessee Worth a trade back into the 1st for.
Boo Robinson, 6-2, 325, Wake Forest
*Brian Price, 6-2, 295, UCLA
Ekom Udofia, 6-2, 322, Stanford


MLB
Rolando McClain, 6-3, 255, Alabama
Brandon Spikes, 6-2, 260, Florida
Reggie Carter, 6-0, 240, UCLA
Donald Booker, 5-10, 235, Oklahoma State

OLB
Sean Witherspoon, 6-0, 245, Missouri
Darryl Sharpton ,6-0, 235, Miami
Colin McCarthy, 6-3, 242, Miami
Dakoda Wayson, 6-2, 226, Florida ST.
Rico McCoy, 6-0, 225, Tennessee
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Tech moved by me to OLB
*Bruce Carter, 6-2, 230, North Carolina


CB
Donovan Warren, 5-11, 180, Michigan notes loves to hit
Trevard Lindley, 5-11, 180, Kentucky
Javier Arenas, 5-9, 195, Alabama (PR)
Patrick Robinson, 5-10, 195, Florida State
Robert McClain, 5-9, 200, UConn

Safeties
Eric Berry, 5-11, 205, Tennessee note worth a trade up for
Morgan Burnett, 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
Randy Phillips, 6-0, 210, Miami
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Tech
Jordan Lake, 6-1, 210, Baylor
Justin Woodall, 6-1, 220, Alabama
Marcellus Bowman, 6-2, 216 Boston College

Punter
Zoltan Mesko, 6-5, 240, Michigan note left footed punter strong leg
Jake Harry, 6-1, 195, Missouri

Kicker
*Kai Forbath, 6-0 -, 192, UCLA

I have not inluded Taylor Mays on purpose, He is not good in covereage and his tackling sucks. He reminds me of Roy Williams. Might be a solid WILL.[/QUOTE]

[nero THE zero]

Outside linebacker (weak side, away from the tight end): "He's the rusher, he's the speed guy. Has to be good enough in the rush to beat tackles one-on-one enough to make plays and always beat any backs who try to block him."

What about him makes yo think he couldnt do this?

There's a difference between not being able to do something, and doing something you are best suited for. Andre Johnson could play safety. Brian Cushing could play DE. But, they don't because they're better suited for what they do play.

Again, I'm no scout, so I could be off base here. And, it only takes one team with a crazy idea (i.e. Orakpo at SLB in Washington.) But, Morgan plays DE at Georgia Tech, is a heavy 280lbs., and plays his position well. Not only do I not see a reason for him to play LB, I don't see a fit. Like I've said, we'll have to wait for scout's opinions to come out on the issue for a more definitive answer, but simply by watching him play, he seems a lot more like a Freeney to me than a Merriman.

I'm still curious where this idea came from in the first place.

[Roy P]

Like I've said, we'll have to wait for scout's opinions to come out on the issue for a more definitive answer, but simply by watching him play, he seems a lot more like a Freeney to me than a Merriman.

I'm still curious where this idea came from in the first place.

I felt similarly last year when Mike Mayock sayd Robert Ayers could play OLB ina 3/4. Then Mike Nolan's 3/4 running defense went out and drafted him. Now, Ayers is the backup OLB to Elvis Dumervil. :confused:

[Roy P]

CB
Donovan Warren, 5-11, 180, Michigan notes loves to hit
Trevard Lindley, 5-11, 180, Kentucky
Javier Arenas, 5-9, 195, Alabama (PR)
Patrick Robinson, 5-10, 195, Florida State
Robert McClain, 5-9, 200, UConn

Safeties
Eric Berry, 5-11, 205, Tennessee note worth a trade up for
Morgan Burnett, 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
Randy Phillips, 6-0, 210, Miami
Kam Chancellor, 6-3, 230, Virg Tech
Jordan Lake, 6-1, 210, Baylor
Justin Woodall, 6-1, 220, Alabama
Marcellus Bowman, 6-2, 216 Boston College
.[/QUOTE]

I'd like to keep an eye on Rutgers' Devin McCourty 5' 11" 190lbs as a player who may be moved to FS like Jarius Byrd.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/563691

Also, put me down for Robert Johnson 6' 2" 195lbs Utah.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1255571

[mussop]

Nate Allen, S
Height/Weight: 6-2/206 |

Is a guy to keep an eye on

[nero THE zero]

I felt similarly last year when Mike Mayock sayd Robert Ayers could play OLB ina 3/4. Then Mike Nolan's 3/4 running defense went out and drafted him. Now, Ayers is the backup OLB to Elvis Dumervil. :confused:

Yea, it could happen. But, it just seems absurd to me.

[Roy P]

Last year we drafted DB's Glover Quinn, Brice McCain, and Troy Nolan. I think they were all in the same conference, weren't they?

Anyway, I don't know if they will declare for the draft early or not, but I really like these two guys from the ACC....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmWJb1gPIEM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpAk11N3VkM&feature=related

Dowling plays for UVa and McDaniel is from Clemson.

[texan]

Last year we drafted DB's Glover Quinn, Brice McCain, and Troy Nolan. I think they were all in the same conference, weren't they?


Nolan played in the PAC 10, the other two were in the Mountain West.

[Roy P]

the other two were in the Mountain West.

Ah, I wonder if we are looking at the TCU tandem this year (Priest & Sanders)

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1027171

[mussop]

My list in no particular order

GUARDS
Mike Iupati OG Idaho
Sergio Render, Virginia Tech
Thomas Austin, Clemson
Jon Asamoah, Illinois
Mitch Petrus, Arkansas
Mike Johnson, Alabama
Mike Pouncey Florida, OG


TACKLES
Bruce Campbell, Maryland
Bryan Bulaga*, Iowa
Charles Brown OT USC
Trent Williams, Oklahoma
Jason Fox, Miami
Sam Young, Notre Dame
Adam Ulatoski, Texas
Selvish Capers, West Virginia
Zane Beadles, Utah
Derek Hardman, Eastern Kentucky
Drew Davis, Alabama
Kyle Jolly, North Carolina
Ed Wang, Virginia Tech
Matt Kopa, Stanford
Chris Marinelli, Stanford
Dennis Landolt, Penn State
Rodger Saffold, Indiana
Alonzo Durham, Nevada
CENTERS
Maurkice Pouncey Florida
J.D. Walton, Baylor
Chris Hall, Texas
Eric Olsen, Notre Dame


RB
Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech
C.J. Spiller RB Clemson
Jahvid Best RB California
LeGarrette Blount
Ryan Matthews RB Fresno State
Anthony Dixon, Mississippi State
Montario Hardesty, Tennessee
Toby Gerhart RB Stanford
Evan Royster*, Penn State
Charles Scott, LSU

DT'S

Brian Price, UCLA
Jared Odrick DT Penn State
Dan Williams, Tennessee
Ekom Udofia, 6-2, 322, Stanford
Arthur Jones, Syracuse
Marvin Austin*, North Carolina
Vince Oghobaase, Duke
Lamarr Houston, Texas
Mick Williams, Pittsburgh

CB'S
Ras-I Dowling*, Virginia
Brandon Ghee, Wake Forest
Trevard Lindley, Kentucky
Javier Arenas, Alabama
Kyle Wilson, Boise State
Syd'Quan Thompson, California
Walter Thurmond, Oregon
Perrish Cox, Oklahoma State
Patrick Robinson, Florida State
Walter McFadden, Auburn
Jerome Murphy, South Florida
Robert McClain, 5-9, 200, UConn

SAFETY
Earl Thomas**, FS, Texas
Nate Allen, FS, South Florida
Morgan Burnett, 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
Darrell Stuckey, S, Kansas
Major Wright*, FS, Florida
Myron Lewis, FS, Vanderbilt
Justin Woodall, S, Alabama
Jordan Lake, FS, Baylor
Robert Johnson, FS, Utah

LB
Sean Weatherspoon, Missouri
Travis Lewis**, Oklahoma
Navorro Bowman, Penn State
Rico McCoy, Tennessee
Roddrick Muckelroy, Texas
A.J. Edds, Iowa
Rolando McClain*, Alabama
Brandon Spikes, Florida
Sean Lee, Penn State
Pawelek, Baylor
Micah Johnson, Kentucky
Pat Angerer, Iowa
Von Miller*, Texas A&M
Ricky Sapp, Clemson

Our lists are pretty close.

[painekiller]

1st
Dan Williams
CJ Spiller
Earl Thomas
Brandon Graham
Mike Iupati
Maurkice Pouncey
Sean Weatherspoon
Kyle Wilson
Ryan Mathews
Jerry Hughes
Taylor Mays
Devin McCourty
Kareem Jackson

2nd
Tyson Alualu
Terrence Cody
Morgan Burnett
Toby Gerhart
Linval Joseph
Lamarr Houston
Jerome Murphy
Ben Tate
Torrell Troup
Major Wright
Javier Arenas
John Jerry
Montario Hardesty
Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
Jon Asamoah

3rd
Zane Beadles
Reshad Jones
Myron Lewis
Jonathan Dwyer
Geno Atkins
Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
JD Walton
Mike Johnson
Koa Misi

4th-5th
Shawn Lauvao
Kam Chancellor
Dekoda Watson
James Starks
LeGarrette Blount
Charles Scott
Mitch Petrus
Marshall Newhouse
Walter McFadden
Mitch Petrus
Myron Rolle
AJ Edds
Donovan Warren
John Skelton
Lonyae Miller
Deji Karim
Jameson Konz
Daniel Te'o-Nesheim

6th-7th
Joique Bell
Trevard Lindley
Fendi Onobun
Jamar Wall
Robert Johnson
Vince Oghobaase
Shelley Smith
Brian Jackson
Javarris James
Keiland Williams
Jay Ross