2010 Mock draft

[painekiller]

I know I told Keith I would have one of these up sooner :D but better late than never

NFLDraftSite.com has a new 2010 7 rounder (http://www.nfldraftsite.com/2010%20Mock.htm)


They have us taking
1st Greg Hardy DE 6'5" 255 Mississippi
2nd Jermaine Cunningham DE 6'3" 255 Florida
3rd P.J. Mahone CB 5'11" 201 Bowling Green
4th A.J. Wallace CB 6'1" 188 Penn State
5th Robert Johnson S 6'3" 190 Utah
6th Freddie Barnes WR 6'2" 212 Bowling Green
7th Carl Moore WR 6'4" 220 Florida

Ok after this years draft and FA signings do you see us going 2 DEs to start? I don't either.

So Cherry Pick time

1st Sean Weatherspoon OLB 6'1" 232 Missouri Roy, we both like this guy as our new WILL in 2010.
2nd LeGarrette Blount RB 6'2" 235 Oregon
3rd Keiland Williams RB 6'0" 226 LSU
4th Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
5th A.J. Trump OC 6'3" 300 Miami
6th Tony Pike QB 6'6" 225 Cincinnati
7th Zoltan Mesko P 6'4" 242 Michigan

Or the always complaining about our draft amount of impact the new player can make mock

1st C.J. Spiller RB 5'11" 190 Clemson
2nd Javarris James RB 6'0" 211 Miami
3rd Keiland Williams RB 6'0" 226 LSU
4th James Aldridge RB 6'0" 222 Notre Dame
5th Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn
6th Mikell Simpson RB 6'1" 197 Virginia
7th Andre Dixon RB 6'1" 208 Connecticut

Why do I do these mocks? So I can see who is who and start finding guys to watch on Saturdays.

So your turn Mock this.

[Roy P]

1st Sean Weatherspoon OLB 6'1" 232 Missouri Roy, we both like this guy as our new WILL in 2010.


Why do I do these mocks? So I can see who is who and start finding guys to watch on Saturdays.

So your turn Mock this.

Well, it is quite the undertaking to project who will be considered as top draft picks in next years draft this early. Also, since we don't know which underclassmen will be declaring, that makes this even more difficult. Then there is trying to determine team needs and any coaching changes. Therefore, I'm just going to give you my preliminary My Guys draft board. I'll let the college season play out before getting too serious about this. This includes underclassmen that I expect will be coming out in this draft.

1 Taylor Mays FS Southern California 6' 3" 230
2 Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri 6' 1" 235
3 Gerald McCoy DT Oklahoma 6' 4" 295
4 Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech 5' 11" 228
5 Reshad Jones FS Georgia 6' 2" 205
6 Eric Berry SS Tennessee 5' 11" 195
7 Kam Chancellor FS Virginia Tech 6' 4" 224
8 Vince Oghobaase DT Duke 6' 6" 310
9 Dan LeFevour QB Central Michigan 6' 3" 228
10 Jared Odrick DT Penn State 6' 5" 308
11 Mike Williams WR Syracuse 6' 2" 205
12 Arrelious Benn WR Illinois 6' 2" 214
13 Marvin Austin DT North Carolina 6' 3" 305
14 Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State 6' 2" 210
15 Quan Sturdivant OLB North Carolina 6' 2" 232
16 Stafon Johnson RB Southern California 5' 11" 215
17 Luthur Brown OLB Southern California 6' 2" 235
18 Dan Doering OG Iowa 6' 6" 302
19 Ben Tate RB Auburn 5' 11" 215
20 Boo Robinson DT Wake Forest 6' 2" 325
21 David Gettis WR Baylor 6' 4" 209
22 Jay Ross DT East Carolina 6' 3" 306
23 Keiland Williams RB LSU 6' 0" 228
24 Roddrick Muckelroy OLB Texas 6' 2" 235
25 Ed Wang OT Virginia Tech 6' 5" 310
26 Dennis Landolt OT Penn State 6' 4" 310
27 Danny McCray FS LSU 6' 1" 212
28 Anthony Dixon RB Mississippi State 6' 1" 238
29 Chris Scott OT Tennessee 6' 5" 312
30 Jarred Fayson WR Illinois 6' 0" 209
31 Shane Carter FS Wisconsin 6' 2" 205

[TrickyTexan]

Next years draft is STOCKED with big time safeties: Carter, Mccray, Jones, Chancelor Berry, Mays just to name a few...excited already!!

[NBT]

Jeeeeezzz! I would like to wait til TC at least, so we can start to see where the needs are going to be. You know with the improvement in the LB's, we may get better play out of our existing safeties. And with our winning record this year (it says here), we won't be in any position to draft any of the really big time safeties.

[painekiller]

Walters has dated May 24th (http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php). sorry if this one is already mentioned, but I am bored.


#20 Earl Thomas, FS, Texas
With Malcolm Jenkins gone, the Texans weren't in position to take a top-tier safety in the 2009 NFL Draft. With that in mind, they may look for one in the 2010 NFL Draft, where there could be four safeties chosen in the first round (Eric Berry, Taylor Mays, Reshad Jones, Earl Thomas).


#52 Mike Johnson, G, Alabama
The Texans don't have many needs, but one area that they'll need to address soon is the interior of their offensive line.


84 Ekom Udofia, DT, Stanford
The Texans really could use a nose tackle next to Amobi Okoye to help out against the run.


Not sure I would complain right now about this group. FS is a position us blogger's think the team needs to upgrade, adding another SEC O' lineman is never a bad idea, and a 322 lbs NT appears on paper to be a big need.

[painekiller]

NFLDraftSite.com has a new 2010 7 rounder (http://www.nfldraftsite.com/2010%20Mock.htm)



So Cherry Pick time

1st Sean Weatherspoon OLB 6'1" 232 Missouri Roy, we both like this guy as our new WILL in 2010.
2nd LeGarrette Blount RB 6'2" 235 Oregon
3rd Keiland Williams RB 6'0" 226 LSU
4th Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
5th A.J. Trump OC 6'3" 300 Miami
6th Tony Pike QB 6'6" 225 Cincinnati
7th Zoltan Mesko P 6'4" 242 Michigan



Thought I try a new cherry pick after the spring practices.

1st Myron Lewis CB 6'2" 200 Vanderbilt
2nd Vince Oghobaase DT 6'6" 312 Duke former local HS player
3rd Chris Brown RB 5'11" 206 Oklahoma
4th Dan Williams Kellen Heard DT 6'6" 330 Texas A&M
5th Andrew Sendejo CB 6'2" 210 Rice
6th Boo Robinson DT 6'2" 326 Wake Forest
7th Blaze Soares ILB 6'1" 230 Hawaii

In 2010 Frank Bush and Ast HC Defense Bill Kollar develop a new defense designed to stop the run.

M.Williams, A.Smith, K.Heard, V Oghobaase, A.Okoye, C. Barwin

B Cushing, D.Ryans,

M Lewis, G Quinn, A Molden

A 6-2-3 :confused:

The front line is anchored by 2 mammoth NT and 2 quick DTs, with 2 explosive DEs. It is designed to put 4 players in the back field on every play. All pass receivers are covered with a pressed man to man, with the idea that no will be allowed off the line.

Defense is considered the best new defense since the 3-4 was devised.

Don't you hate the off season.

[painekiller]

Walters Updated again, not that these mean anything, but again it's slow, and the college season will be starting soon. I am getting tired of watching Big 10 reruns from last season.

Here's is Walter's Latest update: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 - Major Updates

24. Houston Texans: Reshad Jones, FS, Georgia
With Malcolm Jenkins gone, the Texans weren't in position to take a top-tier safety in the 2009 NFL Draft. With that in mind, they may look for one in the 2010 NFL Draft, where there potentially could be four safeties chosen in the first round (Eric Berry, Taylor Mays, Reshad Jones, Earl Thomas).

Pick change; previously Earl Thomas, FS

55. Houston Texans: Mike Johnson, G, Alabama
The Texans don't have many needs, but one area that they'll need to address soon is the interior of their offensive line.

87. Houston Texans: Ekom Udofia, DT, Stanford
The Texans really could use a nose tackle next to Amobi Okoye to help out against the run.

Not a bad mock:

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New version of the 2010 mock from draftsite.com

Their picks for us.
15th Adam Ulatoski OT 6'8" 305 Texas
47th Carlos Singleton WR 6'8" 215 Memphis
79th Broderick Stewart DE 6'5" 230 Vanderbilt
111th Anothony McCoy TE 6'4" 252 USC
143rd Robert Vaughn S 6'0" 192 Connecticut
175th Frank Zombo DE 6'4" 259 Central Michigan
207th Jacob Hickman OG 6'4" 292 Nebraska

Cherry pick time with the SD pick assuming a 5th rounder:

15th Sean Weatherspoon OLB 6'1" 232 Missouri or Vince Oghobaase DT 6'6" 312 Duke

47th Darrell Stuckey S 6'1" 205 Kansas or Mike Johnson OG 6'6" 305 Alabama or Keiland Williams RB 6'0" 226 LSU

79th Nate Allen S 6'2" 190 South Florida or Myron Lewis CB 6'2" 200 Vanderbilt or Jamar Wall CB 5'11" 198 Texas Tech

111th Dan Doering OG 6'6" 300 Iowa or Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee or Caleb Bostic OLB 6'3" 225 Miami (Ohio)

143rd and 144th Gerald Williams OLB 6'4" 245 Tennessee or Andrew Sendejo CB 6'2" 210 Rice or Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn or Kam Chancellor S 6'3" 220 Virginia Tech or Colin McCarthy OLB 6'3" 222 Miami or

175th Thomas Herring OT 6'6" 300 USC or Tony Pike QB 6'6" 225 Cincinnati or Boo Robinson DT 6'2" 326 Wake Forest or P.J. Mahone CB 5'11" 201 Bowling Green

207th Zoltan Mesko P 6'4" 242 Michigan or Alex Albright OLB 6'5" 235 Boston College

[Roy P]

Let's try to find a RG, RB, NT, WLB, CB, FS, and SS and I will be happy. It is way too early to try to figure out who will be available in which round.

[NBT]

Distilling that down, I would be happy with a NT and a couple of safeties, the rest would be icing on the cake, at least right now anyway.

[NBT]

Jeeeeezzz! I would like to wait til TC at least, so we can start to see where the needs are going to be. You know with the improvement in the LB's, we may get better play out of our existing safeties. And with our winning record this year (it says here), we won't be in any position to draft any of the really big time safeties.

Well, it is now after TC, and boy am I ever sorry for Posting that stuff!

[Roy P]

Well, it is now after TC, and boy am I ever sorry for Posting that stuff!

Yeah, the LBs and Ss didn't look so great, huh?

I just hope that Weatherspoon is still on the board when we pick. Taylor Mays is a top 5 guy like Sean Taylor.

[papabear]

Yeah, the LBs and Ss didn't look so great, huh?

I just hope that Weatherspoon is still on the board when we pick. Taylor Mays is a top 5 guy like Sean Taylor.

what about the other safety I've heard a lot about Berry? at Tennessee?

[painekiller]

what about the other safety I've heard a lot about Berry? at Tennessee?

IMO worth a trade up. I think he is better than Mays, more physical. Monte Kiffen is raving about him as one of the best ever. Should be a top 10 pick, and worth it.

[papabear]

IMO worth a trade up. I think he is better than Mays, more physical. Monte Kiffen is raving about him as one of the best ever. Should be a top 10 pick, and worth it.

I think it was LZ who said he likes him better than Mays too. I've made myself a mental note to watch a few Tenn. games this year.

[mussop]

IMO worth a trade up. I think he is better than Mays, more physical. Monte Kiffen is raving about him as one of the best ever. Should be a top 10 pick, and worth it.

Thats like compairing Ed Reed to John Lynch or Steve Atwater. At 5'11" and 195 Berry is more in the mold of an NFL FS. Mays on the other hand is built like a LB that is atletic enough to play S. I think he will be utilized as a SS in the NFL if he doesnt outgrow the position before next year. There is the possibility he could be moved to LB or rush DE before all is said and done. Think Im crazy read this.

Mays' workout numbers are ridiculous. He's 6-3, 226 pounds, with 6 percent body fat and ran an electronically timed 40 this spring in 4.32 seconds. He did 26 reps with 225 pounds while also vertical jumping 41 inches and doing a standing broad jump of 11-4. (As evidence in his growth, Mays arrived at USC weighing 215 and posted a vertical jump of 35 inches and a broad jump of 10-0.)

Asked if he's even seen anything that big, move that fast, USC strength coach Chris Carlisle paused for a few moments: "Maybe when I walked by the cheetah cage at the wildlife park." Mays' athleticism actually presents USC with a different kind of issue: a talent with such growth potential that you have to guard against him outgrowing the position. "Our big thing is he could get too big too fast," says Carlisle, who also gushes about the player's work ethic. "He could easily be like his daddy [former NFL defensive lineman Stafford Mays] so we have to make him better without making him bigger because he could be like 260 in a month."


Utilized the right way in the right system both of these guys should be very good pros. I dont think you can go wrong with either one. I know if the texans were lucky enough to get either one of these guys I will be ecstatic. RIGHT NOW either one is better than ANYONE the Texans have ever trotted out at either Safety position.

[painekiller]

RIGHT NOW either one is better than ANYONE the Texans have ever trotted out at either Safety position.

Never a truer statement was made on this board..

As for my comparison of Berry to Mays, I only said Berry appears to me to play more physical than Mays. Yes Mays has measurable that blow your mind, but in last years games I watched he did not fly off the tape. Granted that whole defense had so much talent last year. I have not yet had a chance to watch him play this year. As of last year, I had Mays as playing below his talent level.

In fact I have seen some reports that a few teams believe Mays will be a LB in the NFL.

[papabear]

Never a truer statement was made on this board..

As for my comparison of Berry to Mays, I only said Berry appears to me to play more physical than Mays. Yes Mays has measurable that blow your mind, but in last years games I watched he did not fly off the tape. Granted that whole defense had so much talent last year. I have not yet had a chance to watch him play this year. As of last year, I had Mays as playing below his talent level.

In fact I have seen some reports that a few teams believe Mays will be a LB in the NFL.

How about Mays at WLB with Berry at FS? Of course we probably wouldn't have any draft picks for three years after that to pull it off....

[Nconroe]

I guess need to see how they produce this year, but looks like a pretty deep safety draft next year, so maybe we will pick up one or two in top few rounds.
some good analysis, times at http://walterfootball.com/draft2010S.php

[painekiller]

I guess need to see how they produce this year, but looks like a pretty deep safety draft next year, so maybe we will pick up one or two in top few rounds.
some good analysis, times at http://walterfootball.com/draft2010S.php

That is a pretty good list. It's missing Butler from Georgia Tech, a top 5 safety on most peoples list.

[painekiller]

draftsite.com has new 7 rounder up. Seniors only

21 Trevor Lindley CB 6'0" 178 Kentucky
53 Al Woods DT 6'4" 315 LSU
85 Jarrett Brown QB 6'4" 220 West Virginia
117 Joe Thomas OG 6'5" 305 Pittsburgh
149 Chris McGaha WR 6'1" 193 Arizona State
181 Andre Sexton S 6'1" 205 Oklahoma State
213 Alex Albright OLB 6'5" 235 Boston College

They do not have Travis Johnson traded pick included yet. #178

My Cherry pick
1st Darrell Stuckey S 6'1" 205 Kansas
2nd Nate Allen S 6'2" 190 South Florida
3rd Keiland Williams RB 6'0" 226 LSU
4th J'Marcus Webb OT 6'8" 310 Texas
5th Andrew Sendejo CB 6'2" 210 Rice
5th b Gerald Williams OLB 6'4" 245 Tennessee
6th Boo Robinson DT 6'2" 326 Wake Forest
7th Zoltan Mesko P 6'4" 242 Michigan

My current hoped for 1st 3 rounds junior included

1st CB Joe Haden Florida 5-11 185 40 Time: 4.43.
2nd S Darrell Stuckey, Kansas 6-1 205 40 Time: 4.52.
3rd CB Donovan Warren*, Michigan 6-0 182. 40 Time: 4.38.

[NBT]

Here's a no-brainer - Looks like we will be drafting a safety with our first draft pick. Whether it's Mays, or Berry, or Reshad Jones, looks like we will finally be getting something done about a sore spot in our secondary.

[painekiller]

My new 7 rounder, i am using the drafttek 2010 list (http://www.drafttek.com/2010players.asp)
pick 11 *Eric Berry Tennessee SS FS
pick 43 Sergio Kindle Texas OLB43
pick 60 *Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech, I trade up Travis Johnson pick + #75
pick 107 *Kristopher O'Dowd USC OC OG
Pick 139 Boo Robinson Wake Forest DT43
Pick 171 Keiland Williams LSU RBF
pick 203 *John Clay Wisconsin RBF

Tomorrow is DraftTeks first new mock of the year.

[Roy P]

Would you select Eric Berry over Sean Weatherspoon? Hmmm that makes me have to think.

[mussop]

Would you select Eric Berry over Sean Weatherspoon? Hmmm that makes me have to think.

I would in a heart beat. Our safety situation is horrendous. I can live with the LB's we have.
But I will be happy with any of these players

Brandon Spikes Florida ILB OLB34 OLB43 0
Eric Berry Tennessee SS FS +2
Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43 +1
Arthur Jones Syracuse DT43 DE34 +1
Terrence Cody Alabama DT34 DT43 -4
Jonathan Dwyer Georgia Tech RBF 0
Carlos Dunlap Florida DE43 DE34

[Roy P]

I would in a heart beat. Our safety situation is horrendous. I can live with the LB's we have.

I agree. However, we could probably get a very good Safety in the 2nd round who may be just as much of an upgrade as Berry. I wouldn't mind Weatherspoon in the 1st round and Nate Allen in the 2nd. Just sayin'

[painekiller]

I agree. However, we could probably get a very good Safety in the 2nd round who may be just as much of an upgrade as Berry. I wouldn't mind Weatherspoon in the 1st round and Nate Allen in the 2nd. Just sayin'

I have to admit I edit the mock. I started out with Weatherspoon, but the top 3 picks then where not as good IMO, as going the other way and grabbing Berry. I think Kindle can be a 4-3 WILL.

Also I see the safety as a bigger need, I am seeing bigger plays where a top tier safety safe us, not seeing the same missed plays by Diles.

I also need a CB that tackle, please.

Besides, what makes you think we are not going 3-4 next year?

Mario LDE, Okam/Robinson NT, Bulman/SmithRDE
Cushing LOLB, Ryans LMLB, Diles RMLB, Barwin ROLB

Could we hire Wade Phillips as DC when the Cowboys fire him?

[mussop]

I have to admit I edit the mock. I started out with Weatherspoon, but the top 3 picks then where not as good IMO, as going the other way and grabbing Berry. I think Kindle can be a 4-3 WILL.

Also I see the safety as a bigger need, I am seeing bigger plays where a top tier safety safe us, not seeing the same missed plays by Diles.

I also need a CB that tackle, please.

Besides, what makes you think we are not going 3-4 next year?

Mario LDE, Okam/Robinson NT, Bulman/SmithRDE
Cushing LOLB, Ryans LMLB, Diles RMLB, Barwin ROLB

Could we hire Wade Phillips as DC when the Cowboys fire him?

I have been thinking about this also. The reason most dont want to is because they say, it is a waste of Marios talents. I say who cares? If it will make the team better then do it. Maybe we could finaly get some pressure on the opposing QB. Despite how great Mario is the current system isnt working. Its not like Mario is setting the world on fire with pressuring the QB now.

[nunusguy]

Hey I like Witherspoon to, but you guys don't honestly think we're going to draft another LB with our top pick in '10 do you ? Unless you want to coin a new term and call this thread "2010 Fantasy-Mock Draft", I say get real.
But what's really amusing is to think back about this years Draft and recall all of the talk about how we didn't have a glaring weakness, about how we could
just draft the best players and not worry too much about specific positions because we'd come so far with the quality of our personnel.
Re the defense I ask you, is there anyplace besides one end of the DLine and the LB corp where we don't have a glaring weakness ? Playing a few games sure brings an end to all of the silly talk we heard just a couple months ago about a team without a "glaring weakness".

[painekiller]

But what's really amusing is to think back about this years Draft and recall all of the talk about how we didn't have a glaring weakness, about how we could
just draft the best players and not worry too much about specific positions because we'd come so far with the quality of our personnel.
Re the defense I ask you, is there anyplace besides one end of the DLine and the LB corp where we don't have a glaring weakness ? Playing a few games sure brings an end to all of the silly talk we heard just a couple months ago about a team without a "glaring weakness".

Guilty as charged.

[painekiller]

DraftTeks 1st real mock of the year.

9 - Arthur Jones Syracuse DT43

Houston
Houston has talent across the board on the DL, so I am puzzled by this pick. I might have gone with the homegrown McCoy, as the firm of Schaub, Grossman & Orlovsky has done nothing to impress. -- Long Ball (Drafttek NFL Analyst)

Remember they are using computers to match need with players. No way we go with another undersized DT when Weatherspoon and Berry both are available.

[painekiller]

Draftsite.com newist mock
14 Houston Geno Atkins DT 6'1" 288 Georgia
46 Houston Walter Thurmond III CB 6'0" 175 Oregon
78 Houston Colin McCarthy OLB 6'3" 222 Miami
110 Houston Jordan Lake S 6'2" 203 Baylor
142 Houston Will Patterson OLB 6'1" 233 Indiana
174 Houston Greg James S 6'1" 195 Louisiana-Monroe
206 Houston P.J. Mahone CB 5'11" 201 Bowling Green

[Mike]

Besides, what makes you think we are not going 3-4 next year?

Mario LDE, Okam/Robinson NT, Bulman/SmithRDE
Cushing LOLB, Ryans LMLB, Diles RMLB, Barwin ROLB

Could we hire Wade Phillips as DC when the Cowboys fire him?

I'd hire Wade in one second to be DC.

Puzzled why anyone thinks Okam will be on the team next year, or maybe even the rest of this year. I think he is one we have to chalk up to unrealized potential, or he just does not want it bad enough.

[painekiller]

I'd hire Wade in one second to be DC.

Puzzled why anyone thinks Okam will be on the team next year, or maybe even the rest of this year. I think he is one we have to chalk up to unrealized potential, or he just does not want it bad enough.

Because I am not throwing away a NT before he completes his 3rd year. It takes most NTs a long time to figure out the NFL. It took Wilfork 3 years, it took the guy in Chicago 3 years. I am willing to give Okam 3 years.

[Roy P]

14 Sean Weatherspoon OLB Missouri 6-1 245 1 4.59
46. Nate Allen FS South Florida 6-1 206 2-3 4.50
78. Anthony Dixon RB Mississippi State 6-1 235 3-4 4.59
110. DeMarcus Granger DT Oklahoma 6-2 327 5 5.08
142. Rodger Saffold OT Indiana 6-5 318 5-6 5.23
174. A.J. Jefferson CB Fresno State 6-0 190 6-7 4.45
206. Cam Thomas DT North Carolina 6-3 328 6-7 5.18

Okay, that's my fake mock.

[Nconroe]

WalterFootball.com updated their mock on 10/22, so analysis is still out of date, but interesting picks, picking in the 19th spot, mocking three rounds.

rd 1 Joe Haden, CB, Florida , 5'10", 202 climbing the boards as a Jr.,

Mike Iupati, G, Idaho 6'6" 330 5.2 40 from Sporting News,
if he's there I'd take him

rd 2 Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke 6'5" 305 5.05 40

rd 3 Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford 6'1" 235 4.6 40

Could we really be 6-1 if we could run in for a TD from 1 yard line? Then OG and RB could be a big need.

[Roy P]

rd 1 Joe Haden, CB, Florida , 5'10", 202 climbing the boards as a Jr.,

Mike Iupati, G, Idaho 6'6" 330 5.2 40 from Sporting News,
if he's there I'd take him

rd 2 Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke 6'5" 305 5.05 40

rd 3 Toby Gerhart, RB, Stanford 6'1" 235 4.6 40


I think I'd be o.k. with that draft. I need to see who was available in the 1st round, but I'm ok with Iupati, Oghobasse, and Gebhart.

[painekiller]

OK you know I am in the trade down school here. so two different paths

no trade
# 19 ) Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida I know we do not need a Mike but BPA sorry
#51 ) Mike Johnson, G, Alabama
#82 ) Mitch Petrus, G, Arkansas

In a year or two Caldwell is the OC, and Petrus and Johnson are OGs with Brown and Winston, this is a solid power block group, and they have size.

Trade down
#33 from NE from Tenn
Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
#51 ours
Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke
#58 from NE
Mike Johnson, G, Alabama
#82 Thomas Austin, G, Clemson

[mussop]

OK you know I am in the trade down school here. so two different paths

no trade
# 19 ) Brandon Spikes, ILB, Florida I know we do not need a Mike but BPA sorry
#51 ) Mike Johnson, G, Alabama
#82 ) Mitch Petrus, G, Arkansas

In a year or two Caldwell is the OC, and Petrus and Johnson are OGs with Brown and Winston, this is a solid power block group, and they have size.

Trade down
#33 from NE from Tenn
Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
#51 ours
Vince Oghobaase, DT, Duke
#58 from NE
Mike Johnson, G, Alabama
#82 Thomas Austin, G, Clemson

#51 ) Mike Johnson, G, Alabama
I was high on him coming into this year but after watching him play a few times have droped him completely off my list.

While watching Bama though Rolondo McClain has moved way up.

[painekiller]

#51 )

While watching Bama though Rolondo McClain has moved way up.

That kid is a stud, IMO he is a better player at this point in his career (he's a junior) than Demeco was as as junior.

And I like Mark Ingram 5-10 215 RB Bama Sophomore,

and if you do not like Johnson, use Mike Iupati, G, Idaho or John Jerry, G, Ole Miss .
Or go Nate Allen, FS, South Florida or Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina

[mussop]

That kid is a stud, IMO he is a better player at this point in his career (he's a junior) than Demeco was as as junior.

And I like Mark Ingram 5-10 215 RB Bama Sophomore,

and if you do not like Johnson, use Mike Iupati, G, Idaho or John Jerry, G, Ole Miss .
Or go Nate Allen, FS, South Florida or Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina

Ingram is an absolute stud also. Love watching Bama just because of those two. McClain reminds me of Jack Lambert.

Sergio Render is the one Im hoping for as far as interior line goes.

[painekiller]

October 31 mock. 7 rounder SR. Jr. using Draft tek ranking as a rough guide.

#20 *Joe Haden,CB/KR 5-10, 190, Florida
#52 Brandon Ghee, CB 5-11, 195, Wake Forest
#84 *Morgan Burnett, SS/FS 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
116 Jordan Lake, SS/FS 6-1, 210, Baylor
129 Motario Hardesty, RB 5-11, 215, Tenn compensatory pick for Dunta Robinson
150 Roddrick Muckeloy, OLB 6-1, 240, Texas
182 Sergio Render, OG 6-3, 325, Virginia Tech
185 Boo Robinson, DT 6-2, 325, Wake Forest Completion of Travis Johnson trade
214 *John Clay, RB 6-2, 247, Wisconsin

Thank we would finally have depth in the secondary?

[Roy P]

October 31 mock. 7 rounder SR. Jr. using Draft tek ranking as a rough guide.

#20 *Joe Haden,CB/KR 5-10, 190, Florida
#52 Brandon Ghee, CB 5-11, 195, Wake Forest
#84 *Morgan Burnett, SS/FS 6-0, 210, Georgia Tech
116 Jordan Lake, SS/FS 6-1, 210, Baylor
129 Motario Hardesty, RB 5-11, 215, Tenn compensatory pick for Dunta Robinson
150 Roddrick Muckeloy, OLB 6-1, 240, Texas
182 Sergio Render, OG 6-3, 325, Virginia Tech
185 Boo Robinson, DT 6-2, 325, Wake Forest Completion of Travis Johnson trade
214 *John Clay, RB 6-2, 247, Wisconsin

Thank we would finally have depth in the secondary?

Wow, I'd be very surprised to see that draft.

[painekiller]

Wow, I'd be very surprised to see that draft.

Draft tek's ranking are way out of reality. They tighten up as we get later in the draft process. But currently having Burnett available in the mid 3rd is unlikely. Render and Boo Robinson in the 6th round, OK. So I cherry picked some studs that will help this team in round.

But wouldn't it be cool to have our entire secondary solidified in one draft? I could have gone the other way and taken lineman only. Buffalo is going through that growth process now.

[TexanJedi]

I may get flamed but what about the thought of drafting Tebow in round 2 (if available). My thinking is he could do all the short yardage stuff, learn behind Schaub, and get some Wild Cat looks, not to mention he is about as high character as you can get and unlike Carr I think he has the passion necessary to succeed. Now back to our regularly scheduled programming.:)

[Nconroe]

The way the team seems to be maturing, depth stepping up when given opportunities, this may be a trade down and take best guy available draft. I dont know, but I agree getting solid CB and Safety for sure would be nice. I doubt that would be first four picks, two of first four more likely, but who knows. I think we are ok now at CB and Safety, but upgradeable for sure.

[painekiller]

The way the team seems to be maturing, depth stepping up when given opportunities, this may be a trade down and take best guy available draft. I dont know, but I agree getting solid CB and Safety for sure would be nice. I doubt that would be first four picks, two of first four more likely, but who knows. I think we are ok now at CB and Safety, but upgradeable for sure.

Think about it though, Reeves, Quinn, Molden, Bennett, McCain with Haden and Ghee, Plus Burnett and Lake behind Pollard and Barber at safety.

That is not a bad secondary, now it would be young and it will have issues with growth, but a solid top to bottom group. BTW Molden and Bennett might not make that group.

[Roy P]

Think about it though, Reeves, Quinn, Molden, Bennett, McCain with Haden and Ghee, Plus Burnett and Lake behind Pollard and Barber at safety.

That is not a bad secondary, now it would be young and it will have issues with growth, but a solid top to bottom group. BTW Molden and Bennett might not make that group.

If we draft any players for the Secondary, I would like a resume that contains many collegiate interceptions. The one thing this defense really needs are players who can take the ball away.

[painekiller]

If we draft any players for the Secondary, I would like a resume that contains many collegiate interceptions. The one thing this defense really needs are players who can take the ball away.

That would take Ghee out, and Haden would is below average as a hawk.

Highest Senior on the List Robert Johnson Utah CB Senior
Highest Junior on the list DeAndre McDaniel Clemson S

Future stars to watch (2011) Rahim Moore UCLA S Soph
Tyler Sash Iowa Hawkeyes CB Soph.
Earl Thomas Texas S Soph.

[papabear]

Earl Thomas Texas S Soph.

Thomas could leave for the draft this year because he redshirted his freshman year...He probably needs another year of seasoning at Texas, and Mack's been pretty good at not having guys leave early, but if he keeps playing at a high level it might be hard for him not to come out...especially if Texas ends up national champions :D.

[Roy P]

That would take Ghee out, and Haden would is below average as a hawk.

Highest Senior on the List Robert Johnson Utah CB Senior
Highest Junior on the list DeAndre McDaniel Clemson S

Future stars to watch (2011) Rahim Moore UCLA S Soph
Tyler Sash Iowa Hawkeyes CB Soph.
Earl Thomas Texas S Soph.

Ok, put me down for Robert Johnson. :D

[mussop]

SS Klint Kubiak, 5-11, 200, Colorado State (XO)

;) MARK IT DOWN!

[NBT]

Molden has been a big dissapointment. He can't stay off the training table. Bennet just has not developed the way the team imagined he would. Secondary needs to be the primary area of focus. After that maybe offensive guards, and as always Dline.

[HPF Bob]

Okay, I clicked on the initial link for the first time and these guys are nuts.

Browns select Colt McCoy with the overall #2 pick? While they have Anderson and Quinn already? That's stupid. First, McCoy's not worth a pick that high (low-1st, early 2nd at best) but then to put him on a team where QB isn't the glaring need. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Then they show Tim Tebow going #9 to the Redskins. Granted, the Redskins may be that stupid but Tebow ought to be a 4th or 5th rounder. No way he does the same crap he does at Florida unless you're running the Wildcat as your base offense. He isn't the passer to be a quality NFL starter.

I was too busy laughing to see who anyone else picked.

I do agree, however, that Suh will probably be the overall #1 no matter who gets the pick.

[mussop]

My hopefulls for round 1 through 3.

1st rpund Rolando McLain LB Alabama
2nd round Selvish Capers OT West Virginia
3rd round Trevard Lyndley CB Kentucky

[NBT]

Oh, I don't know, but Tebow could easily turn out to be a Rothlesburger clone in the NFL. One thing is for sure, he is a very strong leader. No way he goes past the first round IMHO.

[painekiller]

http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm
has juniors and seniors

16 Joe Haden* CB 5'11" 228 Florida
48 Jeff Owens DT 6'3" 300 Georgia
80 Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn
112 Walter Thurmond III CB 6'0" 175 Oregon
144 Chris Todd QB 6'4" 210 Auburn
152 Justin Cole DE 6'3" 240 San Jose State
176 Barry Humphries OG 6'3" 295 Clemson
208 Riley Cooper WR 6'3" 215 Florida

OK draft until round 5.

MY cherry pick
16 Dez Bryant* WR 6'2" 210 Oklahoma State BPA
48 Javier Arenas CB 5'9" 200 Alabama
80 Sergio Render OG 6'3" 320 Virginia Tech
112 Kellen Heard DT 6'6" 330 Texas A&M
144 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
152 Mitch Petrus OG 6'5" 288 Arkansas
176 Robert Johnson S 6'3" 190 Utah
208 Gerald Williams OLB 6'4" 245 Tennessee

[painekiller]

MY cherry pick
16 Dez Bryant* WR 6'2" 210 Oklahoma State BPA
48 Javier Arenas CB 5'9" 200 Alabama
80 Sergio Render OG 6'3" 320 Virginia Tech
112 Kellen Heard DT 6'6" 330 Texas A&M
144 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
152 Mitch Petrus OG 6'5" 288 Arkansas
176 Robert Johnson S 6'3" 190 Utah
208 Gerald Williams OLB 6'4" 245 Tennessee

Lets try this again

16 Toby Gerhart RB 6'1" 235 Stanford
48 Vince Oghobaase DT 6'6" 312 Duke
80 80 Sergio Render OG 6'3" 320 Virginia Tech
112 Dan Doering OG 6'6" 300 Iowa
144 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
152 Andre Dixon RB 6'1" 208 Connecticut
176 Robert Johnson S 6'3" 190 Utah
208 Gerald Williams OLB 6'4" 245 Tennessee

Gerhart will give you a beast at RB. Oghobaase and Williams add size to the DTs. Render and Doering might not start their 1st year but they will in a year or two, and they have lot more upside than Studdard. Add Caldwell at OC and that should be a stud OL.

Dixon because you never have enough RBs.

I know, no safeties early and no CBs. I need size up the middle and the best way to do that is draft it.

[Nconroe]

Yep, right today, that sounds like what the doctor ordered.

[painekiller]

Draft Tek 12/8/09
But this time I trade down. They have us drafting #9, and nobody worth while to pick for at least 10 picks. IMO

I trade our #9 and next years #1 to NE for #21, 46, 52, 53

#21 Joe Haden, CB, 5-10, 190 , 4.40, Florida
#41 Dan Williams, NT, 6-2, 325, 5.25, Tennessee
#46 Jon Asamoah, OG, 6-4, 315, 5.10, Illinois
#52 *Evan Royster, RB, 6-0, 210, 4.45, Penn State
#53 *Kareem Jackson, CB, 5-10, 192, 4.45, Alabama
#72 *Ras-I-Dowling, DB, 6-1, 200, 4.40, Virginia
#104 Mitch Pretus, OG, 6-3, 315, 5.10, Arkansas
#136 Ben Tate, RB, 5-10, 220, 4.45, Auburn
#168 Lamarr Houston, DT, 6-2, 300, 5.10, Texas
#182 Darryl Sharpton, ILB, 5-11, 235, 4.65, Miami
#200 Jonathan Crompton, QB, 6-3, 230, Tennessee

OL Brown 313, Asamoah 315, Caldwell 312, Pretus 315, Winston 315

DE Smith, Williams, Robinson, Williams
CB - Haden, Quinn, nickle Jackson, dime McCain, Reeves, Bennett
S - Pollard, Dowling, Barber, Nolan

RBs Royster, Slaton, Tate
FB/HB/TE Casey

[mussop]

Draft Tek 12/8/09
But this time I trade down. They have us drafting #9, and nobody worth while to pick for at least 10 picks. IMO

I trade our #9 and next years #1 to NE for #21, 46, 52, 53

DE Smith, Williams, Robinson, Williams
CB - Haden, Quinn, nickle Jackson, dime McCain, Reeves, Bennett
S - Pollard, Dowling, Barber, Nolan

RBs Royster, Slaton, Tate
FB/HB/TE Casey

I cant imagine NE trading away multiple picks to move up. Thats like expecting us to draft a RB in the first round. :( But if they (or anyone) would I would be all over it. If im GM, going into this draft theres one key word that would define this draft for me.

R.U.N.

No team makes it far unless they can R.U.N. the ball when they NEED to R.U.N. and no team goes very far if they cant stop the R.U.N. when they NEED to stop the R.U.N.. So improving the interior of both lines my #1 goal. Finding a RB that can get tough yards after contact is #2 goal. Adding another physical DB that is a playmaker is #3 goal. My draft would look something like this.

#21 Mike Iupati OG 6'6" 330 Idaho Improves R.U.N. #1 goal
#41 Toby Gerhart RB 6'1" 235 Stanford Improves R.U.N. #2 goal
#46 Javier Arenas CB 5'9" 200 Alabama #3 goal
#52 Sergio Render OG 6'3" 320 Virginia Tech Improves R.U.N. #1 goal
#53 Vince Oghobaase DT 6'6" 312 Duke Improves R.U.N. #1 goal
#72 Dennis Pitta TE 6'5" 230 BYU O.D. insurance
#104 Boo Robinson DT 6'2" 326 Wake Forest Improves R.U.N. #1 goal
#136 Adam Ulatoski OT 6'8" 305 Texas Improves R.U.N. #1 goal
#168 Thomas Austin C/OG 6'3" 310 Clemson Improves R.U.N. #1 goal
#182 BPA
#200 BPA

Mike Iupati Instant starter/upgrade that can get a push in short yardage.

Sergio Render Instant starter/upgrade that can get a push in short yardage.

Thomas Austin C/OG 6'3" 310 Clemson - Everything people (not me) thought A Caldwell would be for a 6th round pick. I said Caldwell was overrated before we drafted him and he's done nothing to prove me wrong.

Adam Ulatoski OT 6'8" 305 Texas Very talented backup OT to groom pair with Butler for depth.

These 4 give us an OL that is very deep and talented. By far the most talented and deep OL we have ever had.

OT's Duane Brown Rashad Butler Eric Winston Ulatoski
OG's Render Iupati Mike Brisiel C. White
C's C. Myers Austin

Toby Gerhart Does anything really need to be said here?

Vince Oghobaase Solid rotation guy guy possible starter.

Boo Robinson Solid rotation guy guy possible starter.

These two replace Zgonina F. Okam giving us youth, athleticism and size and solid depth for the best rotation we have ever had.

DT's A. Okoye D. Robinson Oghobaase Boo Robinson S. Cody

Javier Arenas Gives us a another physical playmaking DB that allows us to let Robinson walk. He also allows us to get something in trade for Jacoby Jones as he is an excellent returner.

Dennis Pitta is a OD clone. Do we really want to go through the Daunte Robinson fiasco again? This guy has great hands and at 6'5" gives Schaub a huge target.

[painekiller]

R.U.N.

No team makes it far unless they can R.U.N. the ball when they NEED to R.U.N. and no team goes very far if they cant stop the R.U.N. when they NEED to stop the R.U.N.. So improving the interior of both lines my #1 goal. Finding a RB that can get tough yards after contact is #2 goal. Adding another physical DB that is a playmaker is #3 goal. My draft would look something like this.


Isn't that the new arguement against Kubiak? That the top teams in the NFL do not run well, they pass well and set up the run with the pass. They run from multisets that they also pass from.

As for the defense, I agree totally.

New Draft Tek Mock from PK.

I am going to use the big board dated 12/3/09

#12 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43 6-2 245
#32 Dan Williams Tennessee DT43 6-2 322 trade 2011 #1 
#44 Jon Asamoah Illinois OG 6-4 312
#76 Javier Arenas Alabama CB PR 5-8 197
108 Morgan Burnett Georgia Tech SS 6-1 210
140 *Mike Pouncey Florida OG 6-5 315
172 Mario Butler Georgia Tech CB 6-1 182
204 James Starks Buffalo RBF 6-01 205

[painekiller]

DraftTek.com has a new mock dated 12/15/09

This is theirs not mine.

#15 Brandon LaFell LSU WRF I have 2 WRs above him that are still on the board Dez Bryant, and Marshawn Gilyard
#47 Trevard Lindley Kentucky CB Solid pick IMO
#78 *Ryan Mathews RBF Fresno State
110 *Quan Sturdivant ILB North Carolina


My Cherry Pick Based on my opinion of need.
#15 Mike Iupati Idaho OG Instant upgrade at OG
#47 Trevard Lindley Kentucky CB
#78 J.D. Walton OG Baylor
110 Charles Scott RBF LSU
Your foundation of the inside OL is laid and solid youth.

Also IMO I would try to trade back into the 2nd with future picks in order to acquire one or more of the following :

#37 Jon Asamoah Illinois OG
#42 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43
#45 Dan Williams Tennessee DT34
#46 *Maurkice Pouncey Florida OC

[Mike]

PK,

I agree with your premise, but nobody takes a G at #15 and pays that signing bonus money at that spot.

[mussop]

DraftTek.com has a new mock dated 12/15/09

This is theirs not mine.

#15 Brandon LaFell LSU WRF I have 2 WRs above him that are still on the board Dez Bryant, and Marshawn Gilyard
#47 Trevard Lindley Kentucky CB Solid pick IMO
#78 *Ryan Mathews RBF Fresno State
110 *Quan Sturdivant ILB North Carolina


My Cherry Pick Based on my opinion of need.
#15 Mike Iupati Idaho OG Instant upgrade at OG
#47 Trevard Lindley Kentucky CB
#78 J.D. Walton OG Baylor
110 Charles Scott RBF LSU
Your foundation of the inside OL is laid and solid youth.

Also IMO I would try to trade back into the 2nd with future picks in order to acquire one or more of the following :

#37 Jon Asamoah Illinois OG
#42 Sean Weatherspoon Missouri OLB43
#45 Dan Williams Tennessee DT34
#46 *Maurkice Pouncey Florida OC

their overall mock has to be one of the worst ones I have seen.

[Roy P]

http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm
has juniors and seniors



Just for fun....

13. FS Taylor Mays - Would have drafted him last year, so why not?
45. CB Perrish Cox - I like big CBs.
77. RB Ben Tate - RB in the 3rd round....
109. DT Jeff Owens - Bulldog DT
141. WR Arrelious Benn - Did he shoot himself in the thigh?
157. LB A.J. Edds - He's not Chad Greenway, but neither is Zac Diles.
173. OL Chris Scott - Looking for bodies
205. PK Leigh Tiffin - How many kicks did Kubiak not look at?

[painekiller]

PK,

I agree with your premise, but nobody takes a G at #15 and pays that signing bonus money at that spot.

Which is why you attempt to trade down. I would be happy trading out of round 1 for the right deal.

[painekiller]

NFL Draft Site has a new 7 rounder (http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm)

13 Houston Taylor Mays S 6'4" 225 USC
45 Houston Brandon Ghee CB 6'1" 190 Wake Forest
77 Houston Mike Neal DT 6'4" 302 Purdue
109 Houston Charles Scott RB 5'11" 228 LSU
141 Houston Nathan Overbay TE 6'5" 270 Eastern Washington
157 Houston (from San Diego) Jacoby Ford WR 5'9" 175 Clemson
173 Houston Ryan Perrilloux QB 6'3" 223 Jacksonville State
205 Houston Justin Cole DE 6'3" 240 San Jose State

Starts out OK, but I do not see Kubiak/McNair drafting a kid with the past of Perrilloux.

My cherry pick:
Trade #13 to Dallas for #24 and #56
#24 Mike Iupati OG 6'6" 330 Idaho
Trade next seasons #1 and #2 to Philli for #28
#28 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
#45 Javier Arenas CB 5'9" 200 Alabama
#56 Jon Asamoah OG 6'5" 309 Illinois
#77 Ben Tate RB 5'11" 211 Auburn
109 Justin Woodall S 6'2" 220 Alabama
141 Arrelious Benn* WR 6'2" 214 Illinois
157 A.J. Edds OLB 6'4" 244 Iowa
173 Zoltan Mesko P 6'4" 242 Michigan
205 Leigh Tiffin K 6'1" 198 Alabama

[gunn]

Using that website...

Trade #13 and 2011 4th round pick to Seattle for #25 and #41

25. Dan Williams NT Tennessee
41. Mike Johnson OG Alabama
45. Sergio Kindle OLB Texas
77. Kyle Wilson CB/PR Boise State
109. Charles Scott RB LSU
141. Riley Cooper WR Florida
157. Zac Robinson QB Oklahoma State
173. Jimmie Graham TE Miami
205. Leigh Tiffin K Alabama

[painekiller]

OK drafttek has a new one. We are picking #20.

20 Brandon LaFell LSU WRF One of the better WR in the draft, and a wasted pick for us.
50 Trevard Lindley Kentucky CB solid pick
82 Anthony Dixon RBF Mississippi State solid pick
115 Michael Morgan OLB43 USC
145 Christian Ponder QB Florida State

Cherry Pick
I want a CB or OL with my 1st pick, no trades so a slight reach here

20 Mike Iupati Idaho OG
50 *Donovan Warren Michigan CB Reminds me of Dunta against the run.
82 Morgan Burnett SS Georgia Tech
115 *Mike Pouncey OG Florida
145 Ben Tate RBF Auburn
177 Zoltan Mesko Michigan P
180 Colin Peek Alabama TE
209 Leigh Tiffin Alabama PK

[painekiller]

NFL draftsite.com (http://www.draftsite.com/nfl/2010mock.htm)

20 Jahvid Best* RB 5'10" 195 California
51 Brandon Ghee CB 6'1" 190 Wake Forest
82 Damian Williams* WR 6'1" 195 USC
116 Lindsey Witten DE 6'4" 251 Connecticut
147 Torrell Troup DT 6'3" 314 UCF
158 Zac Robinson QB 6'3" 218 Oklahoma State
178 Shawn Lauvao OG 6'3" 310 Arizona State
212 Dennis Landolt OT 6'4" 310 Penn State

Cherry Pick
20 Dan Williams DT 6'3" 312 Tennessee
51 Brandon Ghee CB 6'1" 190 Wake Forest
82 Dexter McCluster RB 5'8" 165 Mississippi
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