Official 2009 NFL Draft Rounds 6-7 Thread

[Keith]

Let's combine the last two rounds into a single thread.

Running back?
Project at QB who will spend a year on the practice squad and get cut next year?

Ohhh, the possibilities seem endless.

[James]

Given the theme of the second day and the propensity for high-character guys . . .I smell some Ian Johnson action coming.

[Nconroe]

pick 188 and 223 to go. still a few RB's and Safeties remain.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2009/draft/tracker/best_available/index.html

[nunusguy]

I dunno, why dont we take atleast one more TE ?

[TexanJedi]

Looking at my sheet:

Chris Baker DT HAMPTON
Rashad Jennings RB LIBERTY
Cedric Peerman RB VIRGINIA
James Davis RB CLEMSON
Coye Francies CB SAN JOSE ST.
Derry Beckwith LB South CAROLINA
Ashlee Palmer LB OLE MISS
Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
Domonique Johnson CB TENN STATE
Don Carey CB NORFOLK ST.
Mitch King DT IOWA

[Mike]

I'd love to have Rashad Jennings sitting for us in the 6th. Of course, that does not mean we will select him.

[popanot]

Don't we have to use one of these two remaining picks on our obligatory Practice Squad QB?

[TexanJedi]

Don't we have to use one of these two remaining picks on our obligatory Practice Squad QB?

If that's JP Wilson or Graham Harrell then I might be ok with that.

[TexanJedi]

Has anybody seen Dannell Ellerbe get drafted, yet? He must have some skeletons in his closet.

Still on the board, but how about Ashlee Palmer at LB for the next pick since they seem to be targeting any position we are not talking about.

[Roy P]

I don't imagine that we'll draft C.J. Spillman since we drafted Quin Glover. Maybe Lydon Murtha, but we did draft a blocking TE. Could we draft a DT? It has to be a RB, right?

[jppaul]

I don't know who is on positive drug test list, but Jennings and Peerman certainly seem like candidates because of the way they are slipping. Both were projected as 4th rounders.

[TexanJedi]

I don't imagine that we'll draft C.J. Spillman since we drafted Quin Glover. Maybe Lydon Murtha, but we did draft a blocking TE. Could we draft a DT? It has to be a RB, right?

popanot mentioned QB, would not surprise me.

[Roy P]

The 49ers drafted Bear Pascoe, so there's one less TE available. ;)

[gunslinger57]

Well, 3 picks left until we're on the clock, and Jenning AND Peerman are both still available. And hey, 6th round is about when the Broncos used to start looking for RBs.

ETA: Of course, there goes Peerman.

[TexanJedi]

What about Ogbanayya (sp)?

[jppaul]

Jennings is still on the board. The only question is whether we grab him.

[gunslinger57]

Brice McCain, CB, Utah.

Okay.....

[popanot]

John McCain, Republican - Arizona. :eek:

[TexanJedi]

Another DB. Was this not the team that said they wanted and needed another guy behind Slaton?

[sinnister]

I didnt see that one coming.

[BigBull]

Another DB. Was this not the team that said they wanted and needed another guy behind Slaton?

Yes, but they didn't necessarily mean in the draft.;)

[gunslinger57]

Another DB. Was this not the team that said they wanted and needed another guy behind Slaton?

I guess once Greene and Coffee went off the board they panicked. I don't get exactly when they're doing, but I guess they know best.

[Arky]

Another DB. Was this not the team that said they wanted and needed another guy behind Slaton?

Maybe they got a higher opinion of Moats than we do? Puzzling to say the least...

[Nconroe]

sounds like a fast CB, like 4.33 40. 3 year starter. not a RB or Safety type. hmm.

[dadmg]

4.34 speed at his Pro Day, 3-year all-Mountain West Conference cornerback. Brice McCain, meet the practice squad.

[Roy P]

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/559552

Overview
Three-year starter played in 49 games, starting 39 … won all-MWC recognition as a defensive back (2007-08) and kick returner (2006) … 103 career tackles … 21 career pass breakups is tied for sixth all-time at Utah … 37 kick returns ranks ninth at Utah while 846 kick return yards is 11th … fastest player on the team was clocked in a 4.28-second 40.

2008 Season
First team all-MWC pick started all 13 games at cornerback … 35 tackles, five pass breakups and an interception … season-high six tackles with a pass breakup vs. BYU … four tackles against Michigan and Oregon State … a sack and a pass breakup vs. New Mexico … one kick return for 23 yards against Michigan.



I suppose we have some Mountain West Conference DB scouts. Could we be looking for another KR to make Jacoby Jones expendable? 4.33 is nothing to sneeze at.

[popanot]

Man, talk about having the rug pulled out from under you numerous times... I feel like I've waisted the last 3hrs of my time. :o

[dadmg]

I think Coye Francies, a CB who stood out at the Senior Bowl and went three picks later to the Browns, will be a better player, but I can see a team not taking a risk on someone who was arrested on firearms charges.

[Mike]

I guess once Greene and Coffee went off the board they panicked. I don't get exactly when they're doing, but I guess they know best.

Why would you say they panicked? If the whole draft was predicated on those two not being there and they were gone... well, that is just silly.

[Nconroe]

Ok, I am now guessing MLB for next pick, just because I have no clue
Darry Beckwith - ILB LSU - HT: 6-0.5 WT: 232
Dannell Ellerbe - ILB Georgia - HT: 6-1 WT: 236
Appleby, Antonio ILB 6'4" 243 Virginia
Joseph, Frantz LB 6'1" 242 Florida Atlantic

[Roy P]

The Browns just got a guy, who I thought if he had came out last year would have been a 1st rounder, here in the 6th round. I wonder if James Davis would have been better off coming out last year. On the other hand, he may have been another one of those guys that draftniks love, only to meet cold reality on draft day. If Davis learns to block, he should help the offense, because he can run the ball.

[Roy P]

Maybe they got a higher opinion of Moats than we do? Puzzling to say the least...

Maybe they just have a really low opinion of Rashad Jennings. Maybe he's a slacker. :o

[Roy P]

Cowboys got Hamlin and Stephen Hodge? Somebody's going to get hurt in Special Teams.

[Roy P]

My guys who are left....

RB Rashad Jennings Liberty
LB Dannell Ellerbe Georgia
OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St
S C.J. Spillman Marshall
TE John Phillips Virginia
QB John Parker Wilson Alabama
OT Lydon Murtha Nebraska
WR Demetrius Byrd LSU ---Recently in car accident :(
RB Javarris Williams Tenn State
RB Ian Johnson Boise State
DT Myron Pryor Kentucky
OG Anthony Parker Tennessee
S Keith Fitzhugh Mississippi St.
LB Lee Robinson Alcorn State
DT Ra'Shon Harris Oregon
OC Blake Schlueter TCU
DE Pierre Walters E. Illinois
LB Robert Francois Boston College
LB Russell Allen San Diego St.
LB Brad Jones Colorado
LB Mike Rivera Kansas

[TexanJedi]

Ricky Jean-Francois DT LSU
Darry Beckwith LB LSU
Ashlee Palmer LB OLE MISS
Arian Foster RB TENNESSEE

[Roy P]

Well Ra'Shon is going to be a 3-4 DE for the Steelers and they didn't have to spend their #3 overall for him. :cool:

[popanot]

With all the CB's and TE's now on roster, how about OD and DRob to Carolina for James Stewart and a '10 pick? Just kidding...

[Roy P]

The Patriots take Pryor and ensure that I'm not drafting a DT in the 7th round.

[Roy P]

Well, the TE I would have drafted is now gone. Perhaps the Texans were right in drafting Hill. The Cowboys take Phillips to go with Witten.

[Roy P]

Would we draft John Parker Wilson, while we have Alex Brink and Dan Orlovsky?

[TexanJedi]

Shoot, I was kind of hoping for Ogbonnaya.

[popanot]

Have I ever mentioned how much I HATE these compensatory picks? In a sense, isn't the NFL penalizing some teams because an individual team couldn't or chose not to re-sign one of their players? For example, why should some of our picks be lower or valued less because the Titans were cheap or let a player walk? I just don't get it and think it's a horrible rule. If they're going to give out compensatory picks, they should all come after Rd.7 of the normal draft order.

[TexanJedi]

There goes the Tennessee State big back. We better not be hurting for a back next season.

[Roy P]

Owww. Javarris Williams comes off the board :(

I guess the Chiefs take this years BGE from me. Isn't that the same guy who was with the Patriots last year? :mad:

[jppaul]

Hmmm...where iss our RB. All this talk about getting a RB someone to push the pile, to improve our red zone and split carries with Slaton. I don't think it was a smoke screen. Yet we passed on Rashad Jennings in the sixth, an excellent value.

Whats up with Jennings anyway, teams are avoiding him like the plague. Crazy. I know he has some ball security issues, but other backs had ball security issues and they got picked.

[Roy P]

There goes the Tennessee State big back. We better not be hurting for a back next season.

I wonder how much money I could have won betting that Javarris would get drafted BEFORE Rashad Jennings. :confused:

[idymoe]

How about Gartrell Johnson getting picked before Jennings? Draft Tek didn't have him getting drafted at all.

[TexanJedi]

Looking back at our "Visits" thread. I see Barwin and Casey listed. But the interesting thing was the only back listed (rumored at the combine a while back) was Andre Brown. Are they serious about getting a back or was that misdirection?

[Roy P]

RBs to watch for....

Brandon Mason - Stony Brook
Herb Donaldson - Western Illinois
Rodney Ferguson - New Mexico
Tyler Roehl - North Dakota State
Kyle Bell - Colorado State
Josh Vaughan - Richmond
PJ Hill - Wisconsin
Arian Foster - Tennesee

I think Kubiak might get a couple of these as UDFAs.

[TexanJedi]

Another DB. I hope younger Gibbs can do something with them, but while I know it's a 7th rounder, I am not impressed.

[Roy P]

Another DB. I hope younger Gibbs can do something with them, but while I know it's a 7th rounder, I am not impressed.

Why not C.J. Spillman?

[Nconroe]

Rashad Jennings must of really messed up, lot of teams had him pretty high on their board. Hope he gets a chance as UDFA I think.

[popanot]

For the average fan such as myself who really doesn't follow college football or player scouting all that much, I have to say (IMHO) that that was one bizzare second day for the Texans. I guess they have a plan, but I sure as hell I can't see what it is yet. Lots of question marks with where those players fit into the scheme and our long-term plans. And in the short-term, how they improve us for '10. I guess it all hinges upon Cushing and Barwin, though.

[TexanJedi]

I was looking at McLain's blog and he claims the backs the Texans wanted were Shonn Greene (65 overall to NYJ) and Glen Coffee (74 overall to SF). It could be a blessing in disguise since I think Caldwell will become a mainstay. And who knows what back gets cut between now and training camp.

[Nconroe]

As another just average fan, I guess I was ok thru 4th round. Guess after that usually not to much anyway as expectation. If first three picks work out great, we should be better soon.

[popanot]

I do like the Caldwell pick. I just think it will take him a year or two before he's ready. But then again, they threw Brown into the fire and he did OK. I can't say I really dislike any of their other picks. I just don't fully see the big picture with those guys yet. Maybe that will clear up in the coming weeks and in TC. I thought for sure we'd come away with another OL and LB, and certainly a RB.

[TexanJedi]

I do like the Caldwell pick. I just think it will take him a year or two before he's ready. But then again, they threw Brown into the fire and he did OK. I can't say I really dislike any of their other picks. I just don't fully see the big picture with those guys yet. Maybe that will clear up in the coming weeks and in TC. I thought for sure we'd come away with another OL and LB, and certainly a RB.

I have watched Antoine most of his career at "Bama and he is strong and very smart. I would kind of be surprised if he did not force Myers or Briesel to the bench early.

[Keith]

To me, Day 2 has been defined with the Casey selection. A great pick, a great fit, and a verrrrryyy interesting sitch as the team deals with Owen Daniels' contract, having just re-signed Dreesen for three more years.

Time will tell how RB will be addressed. A trade before training camp would not surprise me at all. Just a question as to the target and the compensation.

[TexanJedi]

I can only laugh, the Jags take a flier on Rashad Jennings in the 7th.:rolleyes: