View Full Version : Glover Quin, DB - Round 4, 112th Overall
Keith
04-26-2009, 11:55 AM
Someone for the "back end". Not much quicks or speed. Maybe convert him from CB to safety?
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/tracker#dt-by-round-input:4
Someone for the "back end". Not much quicks or speed. Maybe convert him from CB to safety?
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/tracker#dt-by-round-input:4
curious choice, but can't say i know anything about this guy
seemed like better choices out there but it does fill a need...and they are the scouts
TexanJedi
04-26-2009, 12:00 PM
Quin's physical nature makes him a natural zone corner or free safety.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/glover-quin?id=71441
Interesting pick, he is supposed to be physical but there were other players. Show me Texans.
popanot
04-26-2009, 12:19 PM
IMO, this pick is right up Smith and Kubiak's alley as far as mid-to-late round picks. Relative unknown, good athlete, good attitude and work ethic guy with huge upside potential. They took a similar guy last year in Molden.
This is a pretty good analysis of at him:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1115231
cland
04-26-2009, 12:21 PM
This must be the free safety pick, and it sounds like he has some ball skills. I think timing and instincts trump height when playing the FS position.
Don't forget our new "aggressive D" will need an aggressive safety.
From nfl.com:
Positives: Adequate height and very solid overall build for a corner or free safety. ... Has the strength to jam on the line. ... Likes contact, will bring his hips and wrap up in the open field. ... Good awareness, reads screens, play action and misdirection. ... High-points the football and had good hands for the interception. ... Breaks up passes by jumping routes or fighting for the ball in the air.
Some game action of Glover Quin....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNsxMdxPlSw
IMO, this pick is right up Smith and Kubiak's alley as far as mid-to-late round picks. Relative unknown, good athlete, good attitude and work ethic guy with huge upside potential. They took a similar guy last year in Molden.
This is a pretty good analysis of at him:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1115231
Whew!.....Talk about out of left field. You will have to show me he is in the same category as Moulden last year. At least Moulden was on the radar.
jppaul
04-26-2009, 03:16 PM
I live in Albuquerque, and so have watched Glover Quin over the years, and we got a really solid player.
Hes a versatility guy, can play some FS and can play some corner. Lacks elite acceleration but is a good man corner. He has some serious ball skills and makes some great plays on the ball when it is in the air. He doesn't get burned but may have some trouble with some of the smaller faster receivers.
He's physical at the line of scrimmage and isn't afraid to throw his body around.
dadmg
04-26-2009, 03:26 PM
Sounds like a similar type of player (if not the same caliber) as Eugene Wilson was coming out of college - a player to groom.
jppaul
04-26-2009, 03:36 PM
Sounds like a similar type of player (if not the same caliber) as Eugene Wilson was coming out of college - a player to groom.
Honestly he reminds me of Jacques Reeves, but a little more physical.
Mayock thinks he can play inside or outside and just said it was a good pick. That makes me breathe easier.
This is one reason I don't pay attention to fans 7 round mocks or lists on the internet, there are just too many players that we have never seen/heard of and it is impossible to attempt to evaluate and grade these later round guys.
dadmg
04-26-2009, 04:18 PM
I guess they're thinking CB. From the Texans' site (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5252):
"They told me I was coming in as a corner," Quin said of his conversations with Texans coaches. "I'm looking to play the nickel corner and just keep practicing and try to move into the starting lineup."
A native of Summit, Miss., Quin was honorable mention all-conference his first two seasons at New Mexico and was credited with two picks and 20 pass breakups. He began his career at Southwest Mississippi Junior College, redshirting his first season with a broken right arm.
"I think that you can always improve your defense with corners," general manager Rick Smith said on Wednesday before the draft. "I think you’ve got to take corners all the time. You look at the two drafts that I’ve run so far, and I’m going to always take corners because I don’t think you can have enough guys that can cover and run and hit and do all those things that we ask them to do."
kravix
04-26-2009, 11:44 PM
I see the need, I guess he fits the bill given our last three years of drafting CB's. I am on the fence here. This isnt the make or break of the draft, but I was hoping to get more impact from this pick.
coloradodude
04-26-2009, 11:53 PM
This is gonna be one seriously good value pick. 4th rounder that replaces Reeves? Possibly.
Roy P
04-27-2009, 06:17 PM
Some game action of Glover Quin....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNsxMdxPlSw
Okay, another lesser learned. I need to watch more West Coast football. This guy is pretty freakin talented in all phases of the game. He's got good man skills, keeps his eye on the ball when it's in the air, makes plays on the ball, and he tackles. I'm pretty excited to see what Bush can do with the talent we got in this draft. Quin should be able to play nickleback very early on and knock the snot out of slot guys.
Roy P
04-29-2009, 08:04 PM
Some game action of Glover Quin....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNsxMdxPlSw
I was watching this video again and noticed around 6:25 into it, he's making some pretty impressive tackles against Gartrell Jackson or is it Johnson? Anyway, the big RB who looks like Steve Jackson from Colorado St. I like what he brings to the defense along with Troy Nolan.
In the clip he looks to be playing alot of off man and seems to have good instincts and anticipation. I was listening to one of the pressers and Kubiak and Smith were talking about him playing nickle corner... but I think due to his physical style of play he could make for a pretty good free safety. We'll see how it all plays out but the transition could be a natural fit.
edo783
04-30-2009, 08:25 AM
I think they are going to give him his shot at CB. However, once it becomes clear that he can't play there, they will move him to FS. If he can play CB, great, but a fall back to FS isn't all bad.
Roy P
04-30-2009, 12:39 PM
I think they are going to give him his shot at CB. However, once it becomes clear that he can't play there, they will move him to FS. If he can play CB, great, but a fall back to FS isn't all bad.
They are going to play him as the nickle. If it becomes clear that he can't play there, they may try him at FS. However, I'm a believer that he'll be a perfect fit right where they are going to put him (over the slot).
nero THE zero
04-30-2009, 02:45 PM
They keep calling him a nickle corner.
What does that mean for Bennett and Molden? Does that mean they're our fourth and fifth corners? Are they really giving a rookie the third spot right out of the draft? Or by "nickel corner" do they simply mean "not a starter."
Roy P
04-30-2009, 05:10 PM
They keep calling him a nickle corner.
What does that mean for Bennett and Molden? Does that mean they're our fourth and fifth corners? Are they really giving a rookie the third spot right out of the draft? Or by "nickel corner" do they simply mean "not a starter."
What that means is that if/when Dunta doesn't come back, Bennett and Reeves are on the outside and Quin is the Nickle if he's on the field. If we hadn't given Reeves a big contract, Molden would probably be a starter. So, it's depth at the Nickle position in my opinion. I would imagine that Molden is the 3rd CB on the field. Hopefully, this means we have seen the last of Petey Faggins.
papabear
04-30-2009, 07:06 PM
Hopefully, this means we have seen the last of Petey Faggins.
Didn't Petey sign with the BESF's?
Roy P
04-30-2009, 08:55 PM
Didn't Petey sign with the BESF's?
I don't know what BESF is, but I just did a search and see he's a Titan?
That makes me so happy on a couple of different levels. :D
edo783
04-30-2009, 09:25 PM
They are going to play him as the nickle. If it becomes clear that he can't play there, they may try him at FS. However, I'm a believer that he'll be a perfect fit right where they are going to put him (over the slot).
Yeah, your right, IF would have been a better choice of word(s). I do expect him to play well as the nickel, certainly as well/better than Peety. However, I suspect he will wind up at FS as he likely will be better there and a starter at FS is more valuable than a nickel corner. Just my hunch.
nero THE zero
05-01-2009, 09:35 AM
What that means is that if/when Dunta doesn't come back, Bennett and Reeves are on the outside and Quin is the Nickle if he's on the field. If we hadn't given Reeves a big contract, Molden would probably be a starter. So, it's depth at the Nickle position in my opinion. I would imagine that Molden is the 3rd CB on the field. Hopefully, this means we have seen the last of Petey Faggins.
That's working on the assumption that Dunta doesn't come back, which I don't think is a safe one for '09 at least.
Assuming Dunta does come back, you'd think he'd be playing the slot since that seems to be his strength.
Maybe by "nickel corner" they are saying they envision Quin playing to similiar strengths as Dunta.
nero THE zero
05-01-2009, 09:38 AM
Yeah, your right, IF would have been a better choice of word(s). I do expect him to play well as the nickel, certainly as well/better than Peety. However, I suspect he will wind up at FS as he likely will be better there and a starter at FS is more valuable than a nickel corner. Just my hunch.
Sounds a lot like Malcom Jenkins. FS/CB hybrid.
If that's the case, then we got the "poor man's version" of my two favorites in the first round. We got Glover who's a FS/CB tweener similiar to Malcom Jenkins and we got Anthony Hill who's an excellent blocking TE with pass catching ability in the flats, similiar to Brandon Pettigrew. Very impressive if this is the case.
Now knowing more about Mr. Glover Quinn, a pretty good analogy would be a Malcolm Jenkins type of CB, but in the 4th round instead of the first. Makes sense.
Roy P
05-01-2009, 11:29 PM
That's working on the assumption that Dunta doesn't come back, which I don't think is a safe one for '09 at least.
Really? How unsafe is it? We drafted 2 CBs last week. We signed FA Jaques Reeves last year and drafted Antwaun Molden. Before that we drafted Fred Bennett. Dunta has made it clear that he and Rick Smith are not on the same page in terms of a contract. I think it's a pretty safe assumption.
nero THE zero
05-02-2009, 06:14 PM
Really? How unsafe is it? We drafted 2 CBs last week. We signed FA Jaques Reeves last year and drafted Antwaun Molden. Before that we drafted Fred Bennett. Dunta has made it clear that he and Rick Smith are not on the same page in terms of a contract. I think it's a pretty safe assumption.
I'd say it's better than 50/50 that Dunta plays for us in '09. I'd even say it's better than 75/25.
I see your point, but I don't think Brice McCain's stopping the Texans from bringing back Dunta for one more season.
Roy P
05-02-2009, 08:13 PM
I see your point, but I don't think Brice McCain's stopping the Texans from bringing back Dunta for one more season.
I don't either. I think Dunta Robinson is stopping the Texans from bringing him back.
Perhaps he will hold out until the preseason is over and finally "grace us with his presence" for the regular season. Even stubborn folks hate to leave $$$ on the table and I'm sure he'll start missing those game checks. Hopefully, he has something left after his injury and wants to prove to the 31 other teams that he's worthy of the money he's seeking. Hopefully, he'll also convince them that he worthy of a 2nd round pick for us after we Franchise Tag him again!
nero THE zero
05-02-2009, 08:50 PM
I don't either. I think Dunta Robinson is stopping the Texans from bringing him back.
Perhaps he will hold out until the preseason is over and finally "grace us with his presence" for the regular season. Even stubborn folks hate to leave $$$ on the table and I'm sure he'll start missing those game checks. Hopefully, he has something left after his injury and wants to prove to the 31 other teams that he's worthy of the money he's seeking. Hopefully, he'll also convince them that he worthy of a 2nd round pick for us after we Franchise Tag him again!
Hopefully.
If I were Rick Smith, I would be looking for a new home for Mr. Robinson, like right now. If he is not happy being here, and doesn't want to be franchised again, why not accomodate him? As RP mentioned, a second would be a pretty good price.
nero THE zero
05-13-2009, 04:13 PM
Really? How unsafe is it? We drafted 2 CBs last week. We signed FA Jaques Reeves last year and drafted Antwaun Molden. Before that we drafted Fred Bennett. Dunta has made it clear that he and Rick Smith are not on the same page in terms of a contract. I think it's a pretty safe assumption.
Really, for the fun of it, assume Dunta is gone. You still have Bennett, Reeves, and Molden who *should* be ahead of Quin unless (1) they're not happy/impressed with Bennett, (2) they're not happy/impressed with Molden, (3) Molden's injury is more serious than we know of.
I just don't understand what they mean by "nickel corner" given the fact that he has (or should have) *at least* 3 guys in front of him.
Roy P
05-13-2009, 06:57 PM
I just don't understand what they mean by "nickel corner" given the fact that he has (or should have) *at least* 3 guys in front of him.
It is similar to a WR who is not the #1 or #2 guy but isn't necessarily a great "slot" WR. Andre Davis probably has more talent than David Anderson, but may not get as many opportunities to come on the field unless KW or AJ are injured because he's the #1 backup to play on the outside.
Molden is probably better suited to play on the edge at CB and is the guy to come in when Reeves or Bennett gets hurt. Quin has the skillset that makes him a better Nickle because of the types of players and routes he would face in the middle of the field.
It basically comes down to philosophy of wanting the "best" players on the field vs. the players in their "best" positions that maximizes their strengths.
Roy P
05-23-2009, 11:42 AM
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=5296
“Well, he’s made some plays out here the first couple of days. He’s gotten his hands on the ball a couple of times. We’re playing him at nickel, also; (defensive backs coach) David (Gibbs) tells me he’s very sharp in the meeting room. He can return some, too. So there’s plenty of reps to go around, especially with Dunta (Robinson) not being here. It’s moved all those guys up as far as reps go, so he’s taking advantage of it.”
(on what he’s seen out of CB Glover Quin) “You know what, he’s made two big plays. I’ve seen him catch the ball. I like the way he moves around and whatnot. It’s still early, but he’s made a few big plays out there in our passing game.”
(on if Quin could play safety) “There’s a possibility. We have plans for him on the edge right now. He’s going to do some stuff in the slot and nickel, but there’s always a possibility at safety. He’s built that way, anyway.”
(on what physically sticks out about Quin) “Just his physical stature. He’s a big, thick, good-looking kid. He moves around well. From the tape, we know he’s not afraid to hit. So we’re encouraged by him.”
nero THE zero
05-24-2009, 01:30 PM
Sounds like he is fitting into the Jenkins-esque mold. Back-up nickel/back-up FS.
It either Dunta or Wilson get hurt, I think he'll be their back-up (Dunta in the slot at least.)
Dunta has to figure out whether he is going to be a player or a smart ass guard house lawyer, greedy at that!
For someone I never heard of before the draft, I'm becoming rather fond of Mr. Quinn!
As for Mr. Robinson, if I were the Texans, I believe I would start threatening to pull our offer off the table, give his agent permission to shop him around the league, and see just what his value really is.
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