Official 2009 NFL Draft Round 3 Thread

[Keith]

Time to look at ahead to the third round.

Is it time for a RB? Someone in the secondary?

[papabear]

Time to look at ahead to the third round.

Is it time for a RB? Someone in the secondary?

I would think one of those two...unless there in love with a RB I would guess secondary help

[TexanJedi]

Man, I hope it's Shonn Greene (big, blocker, catch it out of the backfield).

[Roy P]

My guys that are left for a 3rd round pick...

S Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
WR Mike Thomas Arizona
RB Shonn Greene Iowa
RB Andre Brown NC State
LB Marcus Freeman Ohio State
DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond
CB Asher Allen Georgia

[TexanJedi]

On a side note, I tied for #38 overall on NFL.com's Predict the Pick. Ironically, I did not get the Texans pick correct, I had Philly trading up for Moreno and us taking Matthews later. I tell you, Mel Kiper, Todd McShay, Mike Mayock, Rick Gosselin ain't got nothing on Lance Zeirlein. I find him to be the best source for how the draft will fall over the past couple of years.

Round 3:
Jarron Gilbert DT/E
Jarrod Cook TE
Shonn Greene RB
Shawn Nelson TE
Alex Magee DT
Jauquin Iglesius WR
Michael Johnson DE
Clint Ingram TE
Andre Brown RB
Lawrence Sidbury DE
Bradlee Fletcher CB
Mike Wallace WR
Kraig Urbik G
James Casey TE
Antoine Caldwell C
Rashad Johnson FS
Chip Vaughn S

We have some good options.

[dalemurphy]

On a side note, I tied for #38 overall on NFL.com's Predict the Pick. Ironically, I did not get the Texans pick correct, I had Philly trading up for Moreno and us taking Matthews later. I tell you, Mel Kiper, Todd McShay, Mike Mayock, Rick Gosselin ain't got nothing on Lance Zeirlein. I find him to be the best source for how the draft will fall over the past couple of years.

Round 3:
Jarron Gilbert DT/E
Jarrod Cook TE
Shonn Greene RB
Shawn Nelson TE
Alex Magee DT
Jauquin Iglesius WR
Michael Johnson DE
Clint Ingram TE
Andre Brown RB
Lawrence Sidbury DE
Bradlee Fletcher CB
Mike Wallace WR
Kraig Urbik G
James Casey TE
Antoine Caldwell C
Rashad Johnson FS
Chip Vaughn S
We have some good options.

I agree that we have a number of good options. However, after taking Barwin and Cushing, I think Sidbury and MJohnson are off the table. I'm really hoping we are somehow able to get Caldwell or Luigs with our 4th round pick.

Do you think Urbik is athletic enough to play in our ZBS? I know the man is about 330 lbs.

[BigBull]

My guys that are left for a 3rd round pick...

S Chip Vaughn Wake Forest
WR Mike Thomas Arizona
RB Shonn Greene Iowa
RB Andre Brown NC State
LB Marcus Freeman Ohio State
DE Lawrence Sidbury Richmond
CB Asher Allen Georgia

I would happy with any of the three in bold.:cool:

[dadmg]

To be honest, there's no one that has me terribly jazzed up but part of that's probably that I was a bit too busy this year to pay that much attention to prospects. Guys that I might be interested in on Day 2 would include:

RB Andre Brown
C Antoine Caldwell
S Chip Vaughn
FS Rashad Johnson
RB Rashad Jennings
DT Alex Magee
CB Coy Francies
TE Shawn Nelson
TE Chase Coffman
TE Jared Cook
WLB Kaluka Maiava
RB Shonn Greene
QB Rhett Bomar
C Jonathan Luigs
WR Derrick Williams
DT Terrance Knighton

*edit* Almost forgot RB Ian Johnson

[TheMatrix31]

Secondary help, PLEASE!

[BigBull]

Secondary help, PLEASE!

I like to see them draft this guy.http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/kevin-barnes?id=80628I think he might intimidate a few wrs.:D

[TheMatrix31]

I like to see them draft this guy.http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/kevin-barnes?id=80628I think he might intimidate a few wrs.:D

Don't know who that is, but sounds like a punisher!

[Roy P]

Will the Lions select an OT like Jamon Merideth or a LB like Marcus Freeman?

[popanot]

What the heck, let's see if the Texans can continue the Drayton Mclain "all-whitey" draft.

[Keith]

Shonn Greene or Chip Vaughn would be great picks if one of them made it to 77.

Gonna be a fun day... this is where winning seasons can be made.

[Roy P]

What the heck, let's see if the Texans can continue the Drayton Mclain "all-whitey" draft.

Well, I don't really think that's the goal here. However, my next top "whiteys" are....

LB Scott McKillop Pittsburgh
QB Stephen McGee Texas A&M
OC A.Q. Shipley Penn St
TE John Phillips Virginia
QB John Parker Wilson Alabama
OT Lydon Murtha Nebraska

So, I'd expect that we'll be getting a player with a better tan here in the 3rd.

[popanot]

Well, I don't really think that's the goal here. However, my next top "whiteys" are....I know it's not the goal. I was just joking. :) Guess I should have put a smiley on the end of my post. ;)

[TexanJedi]

Jets trade up to #65.

[Nconroe]

wow, starting the third with a trade with Jets, gave up 3,4,7, to get 65.

[Roy P]

Michael Johnson and Gholston?

[TexanJedi]

Dang you Jets!:mad:

[Roy P]

Ouch. There goes a thumper RB.

[Roy P]

Fletcher goes to St. Louis before Michael Johnson gets picked. Something is strange about that.

[Roy P]

KC may go with Shawn Nelson or Jared Cook? Or are they going after an OLB like Sidbury or MJ?

[Keith]

Rashad Jennings? Andre Brown? Can the Texans wait another round to get a RB?

Cedric Peerman??

I think if there's a DB they like a lot, they'll wait, otherwise I'm totally expecting a RB.

[papabear]

Fletcher goes to St. Louis before Michael Johnson gets picked. Something is strange about that.
Any possibility that something come out about johnson that we haven't heard yet?

[TexanJedi]

Gosselin had Fletcher at 66 overall, so clearly he was hearing from teams he was rated higher than believed. Someone start a run on TE's please!

[TexanJedi]

Why the heck does ESPN have a reporter in Dallas for a team that will finally take it's first pick in the 3rd round? Stupid.

The pool jumper goes to the Bears.

[Roy P]

Rashad Jennings? Andre Brown? Can the Texans wait another round to get a RB?

Cedric Peerman??

I think if there's a DB they like a lot, they'll wait, otherwise I'm totally expecting a RB.

I think Vaughn, Brown, Marcus Freeman, or Asher Allen are the players Smith and Kubiak are talking about.

[WMH]

Chip Vaughn or Rashad Johnson would look pretty good in Battle Red...

[Roy P]

Cowboys, please don't pick Chip. Go Duke Robinson

[TexanJedi]

Cowboys, please don't pick Chip. Go Duke Robinson

Took a LB, fine by me.

[WMH]

Cowboys, please don't pick Chip. Go Duke Robinson

Not this time, but the have another pick right ahead of us....

[Roy P]

I think Cinci gets the draft day fallers....Smith, Maulaluga, and Michael Johnson.

[TexanJedi]

There goes Johnson to the Bengals, that's ok because we have Barwin.

[Roy P]

Oakland has a WR, but Mike Thomas ran a 4.35. However, Sidbury was fast at the Combine.

[TexanJedi]

Oakland has a WR, but Mike Thomas ran a 4.35. However, Sidbury was fast at the Combine.

A 6th round rated DE (according to Mayock). :)

[Roy P]

I'm feeling good about getting Vaughn and perhaps Brown in the 4th or possibly Jennings. Now if the Cowboys don't mess that up at #75.

[Roy P]

In my mock draft, I had the Jags selecting Dorrell Scott here.

[Roy P]

The Hags should go with Juaqin Iglesias here to go with Holt.

[Roy P]

William & Mary - I had no idea about this CB. Off my radar :D

[Roy P]

In my mock draft, I had the Jags selecting Dorrell Scott here.

T. Knighton - Ouch. We're going to need a BIG RB now.

[Keith]

Niners just took Glen Coffee.... and the RB pool gets a little more shallow.

It's gonna be a long wait to the 4th round if the Texans don't grab an RB here.

But man, Chip Vaughn is enticing, too.

[Roy P]

If Jerry keeps his hands off my Chip, I'll wait until the 4th for a RB.

[Roy P]

Whew! I liked Brewster until he ran. However, I didn't imagine he'd be drafted before Duke Robinson.

[Nconroe]

we're up, all available, see what happens, OG Cladwell, looks pretty good

[TexanJedi]

Brown or Rashad Johnson or Chip Vaughn please.

[TexanJedi]

A Bama guy, I am happy though Brown would have been nice.

[Roy P]

This is why I didn't want to do a 7 round mock draft. Right now it's like a freakin' free for all. I was thinking about adding Levy to my UDFA list.

[papabear]

I was sure it would be a RB or S....but I like the Caldwell pick. Could we trading back into the third for the S or RB....or will they wait it out?

[Roy P]

Wow, I didn't think we'd be this high on Caldwell considering his Combine. In fact, I dropped him to the bottom of the 4th round because of it. Still no RB or SS or CB. :confused:

[popanot]

The Texans obviously don't feel RB or S is as big a priority as we do. I'm getting really concerned about having a decent young backup for Slaton. I hope there's an RB in the 4th. :(

[Keith]

Maybe Connor Barwin can run the football this year.

:p

[jcp]

The Texans obviously don't feel RB or S is as big a priority as we do. I'm getting really concerned about having a decent young backup for Slaton. I hope there's an RB in the 4th. :(

I'm hoping peerman falls to us in the 4th and then we can pick up the best DB on the board w/ our other 4th

[papabear]

The Texans obviously don't feel RB or S is as big a priority as we do. I'm getting really concerned about having a decent young backup for Slaton. I hope there's an RB in the 4th. :(

not necessarily...they may just have rated the players available differently than we do, or not have the tunnel vision we might have a case of. they could really like someone they think they can get later. IMO every pick has a chance to contribute early. Cush and Caldwell could both start...with barwin playing a huge role on third down.

[Roy P]

We may find out that other teams don't love Vaughn and Brown as much as we do. I'm noticing Sidbury is still available and also Marcus Freeman. Shawn Nelson is still there along with Duke Robinson and Jamon Meredith. There's a lot of "value" still there while players with "6th round grades" are being drafted left and right.

Just like Jim Mora Sr. said, "you think you know....but you just don't know."

[Roy P]

I'm hoping peerman falls to us in the 4th and then we can pick up the best DB on the board w/ our other 4th

I'm hoping we can still get Vaughn and Brown.

[Keith]

We may find out that other teams don't love Vaughn and Brown as much as we do.
Well, that and we continually seem to overrate the needs at safety versus how the Texans seem to rate those needs. Outside of re-signing Eugene Wilson this offseason, a lot of their moves at both safety positions have left me looking like --->:confused:

[jppaul]

Lot of quality tight ends still available, might be the best value there, but I would like to see them take a RB or S. Give me Rashad Johnson, I wanted McBath but too bad.

[Roy P]

The Bucs select one of my guys. Roy Miller climbed up to the 3rd round. I was drafting him in the 6th round a couple of weeks ago and moved him up to the 4th round, just to be "sure" I'd be able to get him. :rolleyes:

[Roy P]

Derrick Williams over Iglesias? Hmm, do they know he ran a 4.67?

[Roy P]

Jared Cook and Lawrence Sidbury must have been poor in interviews. With the way things are going, could I get Asher Allen in the 5th round? :)

[Roy P]

Steelers take Mike Wallace instead of Mike Thomas.....I guess being short is hurting him.

[TexanJedi]

Derrick Williams over Iglesias? Hmm, do they know he ran a 4.67?

He did look good at the Senior Bowl, if I remember correctly.

[papabear]

Derrick Williams over Iglesias? Hmm, do they know he ran a 4.67?

Reported that he had the flu when he ran that, and was quicker at his pro day. Didn't Jerry Rice run a 4.6?

[TexanJedi]

There goes Allen to Minny.

[Roy P]

Current guess for the rest of the 3rd round.....

http://www.drafttek.com/round32009.asp

85 Philadelphia Jared Cook TE South Carolina +37 Value
86 Minnesota DJ Moore CB Vanderbilt +39 Value
87 Miami Juaquin Iglesias WRF Oklahoma +26 Value
88 Baltimore Louis Murphy WRF Florida +4 Value
89 New England Marcus Freeman ILB Ohio State +24 Value
90 Atlanta Mike Mickens CB Cincinnati +15 Value
91 NY Giants Rashad Johnson FS Alabama +25 Value
92 Indianapolis Jamon Meredith OT South Carolina +33 Value
93 Carolina Duke Robinson OG Oklahoma +41 Value
94 Tennessee Asher Allen CB Georgia +17 Value
95 Arizona Jonathan Luigs OC Arkansas +2 Value
96 Pittsburgh Fenuki Tupou OT Oregon +0 Value
97 C New England Lawrence Sidbury Jr. OLB34 Richmond +25 Value
98 C Cincinnati Andre Brown RBF North Carolina St +43 Value
99 C Chicago David Bruton FS Notre Dame -1 Reach
100 C NY Giants Darry Beckwith ILB LSU +32 Value

[Roy P]

Aww crap. Asher Allen is off the board :(

I guess the good news is that he's not a Titan.

[jcp]

I'm hoping we can still get Vaughn and Brown.

good with brown too, but doubt he's there

vaughn would fit the db need

[Roy P]

I'm thinking about trading next year's 2nd for another 3rd round pick for Andre Brown right about now.

[Roy P]

Then again, Jennings is still on the board, so maybe I'm trading up for Chip Vaughn - you know, the guy I gave a 2nd round pick grade.

[TexanJedi]

I'm thinking about trading next year's 2nd for another 3rd round pick for Andre Brown right about now.

Wouldn't it be better to package our 4th's?

[American Idle]

I'm thinking about trading next year's 2nd for another 3rd round pick for Andre Brown right about now.

I would love that trade if it went down. Ive been loving on Caldwell all year and was hoping we would draft him, so I am tickled pink. I was just hoping they could draft him in the 4th instead of the 3rd, but such is life. If they could trade back in to the 3rd and grab Vaughn or Brown, that would be awesome.

[Nconroe]

not me, no next year seconds going away, just be patient, or trade this years picks if really sold on someone.

[TexanJedi]

Tennessee just got a good TE in Cook. Good value.

[Roy P]

The Titans just drafted to the "BPA" in Jared Cook. Hopefully he's dumb, can't catch, and won't block.

[American Idle]

Nice pickup in Cook for the Titans. Wasn't he projected in the mid 2nd?

[TexanJedi]

Titans traded their #2 next year for Cook this year.

[Roy P]

not me, no next year seconds going away, just be patient, or trade this years picks if really sold on someone.

Okay, I just needed to be talked down. This Caldwell pick flustered me. Now I have to get Vaughn and a RB (Brown, Jennings, or Ringer, Peerman).

[Roy P]

I thought the Colts would draft D.J. Moore to play CB.

[popanot]

Titans traded their #2 next year for Cook this year.I like Cook, but I'm glad the Titans are throwing away future picks. NE's stockpiling picks for next year.

And no, please don't give up our 2010 #2 for a #3 this year!!! I may have been OK with that had we traded with Detroit and picked Green or something. I'd rather give up both #4's or a combination of #4 and #5 or something like that if we want to move back into the 3rd.

[Roy P]

I'm trading next year's #2 for Chip Vaughn. Rashad Johnson just came off the board. I'm keeping my 4th for RB and CB.

[Roy P]

Keenan Lewis is off the board, so forget about my 4th round CB. So, now my #122 and my 5th would be available for a trade up. I'm keeping #112 for a RB.

[Roy P]

Is anyone surprised that Sidbury and Freeman are still on the board?

[TexanJedi]

There goes Iglesies to Chicago.

We're 12 away. Hold fast.

[Roy P]

Cutler should be happier with Enrique Julio