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jppaul
01-08-2009, 11:28 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft09/news/story?id=3816307
complete list
Not yet a complete list, IMO.
TrickyTexan
01-09-2009, 04:00 PM
Not yet a complete list, IMO.
Jan 15th is the deadline. Still a bunch of kids undecided including but not limited to: Tebow, Bradford, Harvin, Crabtree, Spiller, Kindle and many many more
Roy P
01-09-2009, 04:01 PM
Jan 15th is the deadline. Still a bunch of kids undecided including but not limited to: Tebow, Bradford, Harvin, Crabtree, Spiller, Kindle and many many more
I saw Crabtee is going to declare.
http://www.examiner.com/r-5260138~Sources__Texas_Tech_s_Crabtree_to_enter_dr aft.html
painekiller
01-09-2009, 05:18 PM
Bradford is not ready, and should go back for another year IMO.
barrett
01-09-2009, 05:26 PM
Another year may help Bradford skillwise and physically, but he loses 4/5 of maybe the best OL in the country. It is going to be hard to duplicate this year's success under those circumstances. He may be at his peak value wise right now.
HPF Bob
01-09-2009, 05:49 PM
Bradford (and Tebow for that matter) are in the same boat that Vince Young was after the 2005 season. They could really benefit skills-wise from another year at college but they've pretty much accomplished everything they can at this level so their pro prospects can only go down from here. Probably should cash in while the getting is good. Remember Matt Leinart. He's a consensus Top 3 pick after 2004 but lasted until the 10th pick after staying in school an extra year.
barrett
01-09-2009, 06:17 PM
thank you bob. Exactly what I meant to say but far better said.
It is a two-edged sword. If they get enough money, then they can get the football education they need by being a sub for a year, but unfortunately it doesn't work that way often enough to work. Usually they are forced into the Pro limelight immediately. Too bad.
Nconroe
01-11-2009, 06:42 PM
Sounds like Tebo is gonna stay in school since he likely would not have been first round selection, according to some anyways, atleast as a QB. needs to work on his passing motion and accuracy.
painekiller
01-11-2009, 11:00 PM
Sounds like Tebo is gonna stay in school since he likely would not have been first round selection, according to some anyways, atleast as a QB. needs to work on his passing motion and accuracy.
He is a fullback that can pass right now.
mussop
01-12-2009, 03:29 AM
He is a fullback that can pass right now.
I dissagree, the kid throws better than most give him credit for IMO. I think every running QB that comes out now is unjustly sterio-typed this way. The reason is that most of these type QB's have not turned out to be very produtive in the NFL. But we shouldnt forget abbout plyers like John Elway, Donnavan McNabb, Randell Cunningham and Steve Young.
I tell you what imagine him in the Wildcat offense. You know I wouldnt be surprised if we start to see teams drafting these type of QB's and using them to run the Wildcat offense in certain situations. I would love for us to draft Pat White and install the Wildcat offense. That could be the answer to our short yardage woes.
Sideline
01-12-2009, 06:36 AM
Tebow staying at school is a good idea for him at the moment, as a Quarterback his pro stock has gone down this year however I think Bradford would do right to declare and come out this year, he is a very mechanically polished passer and although could do with another year in school,as previously states he probably won't be able to top this past season. Also on his side this year is the weak Quarterback class, im sure he is a better prospect than those rated at the top at the moment (Bomar and Harrell).
barrett
01-12-2009, 09:16 AM
I dissagree, the kid throws better than most give him credit for IMO. I think every running QB that comes out now is unjustly sterio-typed this way. The reason is that most of these type QB's have not turned out to be very produtive in the NFL. But we shouldnt forget abbout plyers like John Elway, Donnavan McNabb, Randell Cunningham and Steve Young.
I tell you what imagine him in the Wildcat offense. You know I wouldnt be surprised if we start to see teams drafting these type of QB's and using them to run the Wildcat offense in certain situations. I would love for us to draft Pat White and install the Wildcat offense. That could be the answer to our short yardage woes.
It's not just his ability to throw that causes concern, it's the offense he is coming out of. It is the opposite of pro-style and the last big QB to come out of it was a total flop even though he was a far more accomplished passer with superior mechanics to Tebo.
Taylor Mays is returning to USC.
http://www.dailynews.com/usc/ci_11439613
jppaul
01-13-2009, 02:31 PM
On a defense that is so depleted that is a pretty stupid career move. I don't think he will regret it as much as some because of his freakish physical gifts, but I think he will regret it.
NickO
01-13-2009, 07:18 PM
Taylor Mays is returning to USC.
http://www.dailynews.com/usc/ci_11439613
Not to start a debate on the subject, but this always baffles me. If I'm an NFL GM, this makes me instantly question Mays' love of football and committment to the game.
...and I'm guessing he's not an actuarial science major.
mussop
01-13-2009, 07:37 PM
Not to start a debate on the subject, but this always baffles me. If I'm an NFL GM, this makes me instantly question Mays' love of football and committment to the game.
...and I'm guessing he's not an actuarial science major.
WHY? Because he wants to go back to school and play fun football for one more year?????:confused:
Roy P
01-13-2009, 08:55 PM
Taylor Mays is returning to USC.
http://www.dailynews.com/usc/ci_11439613
Well that saddens me. I suppose I'll start my very own Paul Kruger bandwagon.
mussop
01-13-2009, 10:15 PM
Well that saddens me. I suppose I'll start my very own Paul Kruger bandwagon.
Have you got to watch Raji any? Curious as to youre evaluation of him.
Roy P
01-14-2009, 11:04 PM
Have you got to watch Raji any? Curious as to youre evaluation of him.
Whenever a kid can't play because of academics, I always pause about spending 1st round money on. I wonder about his character off the field. Is he smart enough to understand a complex defense? Does he have maturity issues that he needs to address? Will he work hard with guaranteed money in hand? That's just too many ???? for my liking, regardless of the talent level. I'd imagine that a motivated Frank Okam could do what Raji could do.
kRocket
01-14-2009, 11:34 PM
... I'd imagine that a motivated Frank Okam could do what Raji could do.
This brings up a good point. Where is Okam in his development and what is his REAL upside. If he isn't going to make it then we need to draft that position for sure, otherwise I'll pass it for another year in order to get another LB or S.
Watching the playoffs on TV, and I am not the expert you guys are, it is obvious that the Texans are not in the class of the Ravens, Steelers, Eagles, etc. when it comes to run defense. We must go there first, but I am not sure whether that means a DL, LB, or S. They all play their part in Run stopping. I would like to see a head hunter at Safety (Had my eye on Mays), A mean run stuffing MLB (several) so Demeco can move outside, or a DE (I like Michael Johnson out of GT). We will never go far in the playoffs without a defense in the class of the above mentioned teams.
On an off-thread note (sorta): How can a Defensive Coach like Frank Bush work for Smith when he has a completely different philosophy of defense that his boss. Are we likely to see the same defense rehashed or has he been playing possum.
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