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Arky
12-07-2008, 11:36 AM
Guess I'll get this started. Keith, merge or delete if necessary.....

Cold day in Green Bay. Let's hope the Texans can warm themselves with a "W".

Following are the inactives for the Texans' matchup with the Green Bay Packers at Lambeau Field.

Texans inactives are:
16 QB Craig Nall (3rd QB)
27 CB Matterral Richardson
47 SS Will Demps
53 LB Kevis Coley
64 G Kasey Studdard
78 T Rashad Butler
87 TE Mark Bruener
25 S Nick Ferguson

Changes to the Texans' starting lineup: Brandon Harrison will start at strong safety for Nick Ferguson.

Packers' inactives are:
11 QB Brian Brohm (3rd QB)
20 S Atari Bigby
40 CB Joe Porter
42 RB DeShawn Wynn
54 LB Brandon Chillar
68 T Breno Giacomini
78 G Allen Barbre
99 DE Jeremy Thompson

http://www.houstontexans.com/gameday/GameInactive.asp?game_id=125&team=y

coloradodude
12-07-2008, 11:55 AM
Please let us throw for 250+ yards with NO interceptions.

Please let us run for 250 yards

Please let Mario have 3 sacks so I can become an untroubled fan.

Keith
12-07-2008, 12:02 PM
Brandon Harrison will start at strong safety for Nick Ferguson.

This makes me nervous.


btw, there is something mildly disturbing about the $5 footlong. Can't put my finger on it and don't want to.

6 degrees at kickoff. brr!

Keith
12-07-2008, 12:04 PM
btw, there is something mildly disturbing about the $5 footlong. Can't put my finger on it and don't want to.


Unless someone from Subway is reading this and wants to sponsor the site. The "Subway IntheBullsye.com" has a certain ring to it, you know, financially speaking, of course.

popanot
12-07-2008, 12:04 PM
It's sooooo much better seeing Schaub out there than Rosenfuss.

TD!!!

Keith
12-07-2008, 12:05 PM
58-yd TD from Schaub to Walter!!!!11 f yeah!

Arky
12-07-2008, 12:06 PM
Texans receive the opening kickoff. AD brings it out to about the 25.

Awesome! About the 3rd play from scrimmage, Schaub chunks one up deep and Walter make a play. 58 yd TD.

Texans 7, Packers 0

Keith
12-07-2008, 12:12 PM
gowd. Okoye just got pushed backward 6 yards on that first rushing play.

Ugh, Dunta just called for holdingon Driver. He was beat pretty good.

Arky
12-07-2008, 12:13 PM
Texans kickoff, Packers brings it out to the 32.

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Holding on Robinson keeps the Packers from punting. Ball currently at the Packer 45.

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Packers to punt. Ball goes out of bounds about the Texan 25. Texans ball.

popanot
12-07-2008, 12:18 PM
Slaton's gonna bust one before the game is over.

Arky
12-07-2008, 12:22 PM
Texans go 3 and out and punt. Green Bay fair catches at their own 31.

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Packers have a couple of plays called back due to penalty and have to punt.

Illegall block in the back on JJ's return puts the ball at the Texan 11.

Joshua
12-07-2008, 12:34 PM
Did I hear that stat right? Before Slaton picked up 13 yards on 3rd and 10, the Texans were 0-29 on 3rd and 9 or longer this year. Now we're 1 for 30. Wow. That is terrible.

Arky
12-07-2008, 12:34 PM
Texans have to punt and Green Bay brings it out to the 42 yard line but holding knocks it back to 24. Nearing the end of the 1st quarter....

TexicanMexican
12-07-2008, 12:35 PM
Third game in a row, at least, where they open with a TD and then the offense goes into stall mode.

Arky
12-07-2008, 12:39 PM
Packers have to punt. Ball goes into the endzone - touchback.

Houston takes over at the 20.

WMH
12-07-2008, 12:42 PM
We have GOT to get AJ into this game! (I need the points!)

Arky
12-07-2008, 12:44 PM
Slaton ends the 1st quarter with a 34 yard run!

Ball presently about the Green Bay 30....

WMH
12-07-2008, 12:47 PM
DAMMIT!:mad:

Arky
12-07-2008, 12:48 PM
Oh, OD. Fumbled nearing the goal line.

Packers take over at about the 3 yard line.

popanot
12-07-2008, 12:49 PM
Daniels has one of his brainfarts. I thought he was over that crap!

TheMatrix31
12-07-2008, 12:53 PM
What's up with Owen and those little miscues? I'll never understand it.

Arky
12-07-2008, 12:58 PM
Bulman with the sack forces the Packers to punt.

JJ brings it up to about the Texan 13.

Packers picked up a lot in the field position game but so far, the Texan D is not too shabby today....

Arky
12-07-2008, 01:02 PM
Oy, T Williams jumps the route on a Schaub pass. INT.

Packers ball at the Houston 23.

TexicanMexican
12-07-2008, 01:03 PM
Number 8-18 David Rosenshcaub makes his appearance.

Arky
12-07-2008, 01:04 PM
Nice push off. TD Packers.

Texans 7, Packers 7

Keith
12-07-2008, 01:07 PM
Ugh, daniels fumble at the 1. Costs us a possible TD.

Another redzone TO.
Another interception.
And Harrison with a poor play.

TheMatrix31
12-07-2008, 01:07 PM
Total push-off. That thing was clear as day.

**sigh**, turnovers.

Arky
12-07-2008, 01:08 PM
Packers kick off. AD brings it out to the 29.

Joshua
12-07-2008, 01:09 PM
Schaub is probably below average in virtually every physical attribute (arm strength, mobility, etc.). The only way he overcomes these deficiencies is by being smarter, headier than others. While he's only had about 18-20 games, he continues to make the same mental mistakes and bad decisions. If he doesn't greatly improve his decision making, he is simply not the guy.

Arky
12-07-2008, 01:10 PM
Bombs away to KW - 46 yards!

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3 runs by Slaton put the ball at the 14. 1st and 10.

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3rd and 7 from the 11...

TheMatrix31
12-07-2008, 01:16 PM
Schaub is probably below average in virtually every physical attribute (arm strength, mobility, etc.). The only way he overcomes these deficiencies is by being smarter, headier than others. While he's only had about 18-20 games, he continues to make the same mental mistakes and bad decisions. If he doesn't greatly improve his decision making, he is simply not the guy.

I'm already convinced he's not the guy.

Arky
12-07-2008, 01:16 PM
3rd down pass is incomplete. Texans settle for the 30 yard FG.

Texans 10, Packers 7

1:52 left in the half.

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Woooo. Texans dodge a bullet. Packers return the kick off for a TD but holding brings it back.

Packers ball at the 17.

Arky
12-07-2008, 01:23 PM
Dunta makes the pick with 33 seconds left!

Ball is at the Packer 40. Texans have 3 timeouts.

Arky
12-07-2008, 01:29 PM
K Brown misses the 41 yard attempt as the half ends.

Score remains:

Texans 10, Packers 7

Yeesh, missed opportunities....

popanot
12-07-2008, 01:29 PM
I'm constantly amazed at how Slaton seems to be the smartest player on the field and the only one who knows how to protect the ball.

Shank Kris Brown. :rolleyes: Nothing like letting GB stay in the game!! We should be up by at 10pts. by now.

Arky
12-07-2008, 01:35 PM
Halftime stats:

Passing: Schaub 10/20 for 199 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT

Rushing: Slaton 13/88, Moats 2/6

Receiving: Walter 2/104, Slaton 2/34, AJ 2/24, Daniels 2/19

Leading Tacklers: Ryans 5, Harrison 3, Adibi 3

Time of Possession: Texans 15:35, Packers 14:25

popanot
12-07-2008, 01:37 PM
Awesome! They're showing highlights of the Vikings/Lions game and Jared Allen gets flattened by a cheap shot to the knee. I don't wish injury on anyone per say, but I do like sweet justice. Couldn't happened to a bigger jerk, IMO.

Arky
12-07-2008, 01:45 PM
Texans kickoff. Green Bay returns it to about their 35.

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The Packers go 3 and out and have to punt.

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JJ returns it to about the Texan 31.

Arky
12-07-2008, 01:52 PM
Texans move the ball to about the Green Bay 24 but have to go for a FG on 4th and 1. K Brown's FG is good from 41.

Texans 13, Packers 7

Arky
12-07-2008, 01:55 PM
Texans kickoff. Green Bay takes over at their 30.

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Grant gets about 20 on the first play.

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Ball currently at the Texan 44.

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Nice break up by Reeves forces the Packers to punt.

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JJ fumbles but covers at the 10.

Arky
12-07-2008, 02:00 PM
Slaton over 1,000 yds for the year! Yay! ;)

Arky
12-07-2008, 02:06 PM
Texans move it out to about their 34 but have to punt.

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Fake (or braincramp?)! Turk runs for 18.

1st down Texans in Green Bay territory.

Joshua
12-07-2008, 02:06 PM
You can't stop the Turk, you can only hope to contain him!

WMH
12-07-2008, 02:07 PM
Fake (or braincramp?)! Turk runs for 18.

1st down Texans in Green Bay territory.

I think he saw it was about to get blocked, and took off. Either way, nice p/u.

Arky
12-07-2008, 02:12 PM
Oy, Slaton fumbles at the 20.

Packers ball.

Arky
12-07-2008, 02:16 PM
Rodgers hits Jennings on a deep pass. Packers ball at the Texan 5.

Step it up, defense.

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Grant runs it in.

Packers 14, Texans 13

Joshua
12-07-2008, 02:32 PM
Texans take the lead 19-14, but have to burn a timeout because they couldn't figure out whether to go for 2 or not. I know it's nitpicky after they just march down the field and score, but Kubiak has to do a better job of knowing the situation and being ready to act. Having to burn a timeout in a close game to decide whether you want to go for 2 is inexcusable.

Arky
12-07-2008, 02:32 PM
Start of 4th quarter.

Packers kick off. AD returns it to the Texan 37.

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Texans matriculate the ball down the field and then Schaub hits AJ for the 11 yard TD!

Texans mulling over going for 2 pts....

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2 pt conversion to AJ is good!

Texans 21, Packers 14

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Packers to challenge the 2 pt conversion. (looked good to me)

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2 pt conversion holds up. Pack is charged a timeout.

Arky
12-07-2008, 02:38 PM
Brown kicks off. Packers misplay it and only get to their 11 yard line.

About 9:37 left in the game...

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Packers have to punt.

popanot
12-07-2008, 02:40 PM
Jeezuz!!! F'ing ANOTHER turnover!!! G'damit!

Arky
12-07-2008, 02:40 PM
Oh my god.

JJ fumbles the punt. Packers ball at about the 50.

Arky
12-07-2008, 02:46 PM
Packers moving the ball easily on the ground (Grant)....

Packers have 1st and goal at the 10.

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Rodgers hits Nelson on a 10 yd pass. TD Packers.

Texans 21, Packers 21

popanot
12-07-2008, 02:47 PM
This team and the turnovers are f'ing ridiculous. I don't think I have ever seen a team that's more sloppy with the ball the '08 Texans. We should be dominating this game and instead are just giving it away.

TheMatrix31
12-07-2008, 02:48 PM
This team and the turnovers are f'ing ridiculous. I don't think I have ever seen a team that's more sloppy with the ball the '08 Texans. We should be dominating this game and instead are just giving it away.

We should be dominating this season, you mean.

Arky
12-07-2008, 02:49 PM
Packers kick off. Texans ball at their 35.

5:53 left in the game....

Arky
12-07-2008, 02:53 PM
Texans go 3 and out. Turk on to punt.

Green Bay takes over at their 15 yard line.

5:19 left in the game.

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Big pass to Driver puts the ball at the Texan 25.

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Big sack by DeMeco!

popanot
12-07-2008, 02:56 PM
This play-by-play announcer is really getting on my nerves. EVERYTHING IS UNBELIEVABLE!!!! LET'S ALL SHOUT!!! They're two 5-7 teams going against each other, dude. Tone it down!

Arky
12-07-2008, 03:00 PM
Packers face 4th and 23 at the Texan 38. They elect to punt.

Punt is downed at the 2. Texans ball with 1:49 left.

Joshua
12-07-2008, 03:00 PM
This play-by-play announcer is really getting on my nerves. EVERYTHING IS UNBELIEVABLE!!!! LET'S ALL SHOUT!!! They're two 5-7 teams going against each other, dude. Tone it down!

I take it you aren't very familiar with Gus Johnson.

TheMatrix31
12-07-2008, 03:03 PM
This play-by-play announcer is really getting on my nerves. EVERYTHING IS UNBELIEVABLE!!!! LET'S ALL SHOUT!!! They're two 5-7 teams going against each other, dude. Tone it down!

I'd rather have over-excitement than under-excitement.

Arky
12-07-2008, 03:03 PM
Leach gets it out to the 28 on a short pass.

Nick Collins down.

1:34 left in the game.

Joshua
12-07-2008, 03:03 PM
Texans take the lead 19-14, but have to burn a timeout because they couldn't figure out whether to go for 2 or not. I know it's nitpicky after they just march down the field and score, but Kubiak has to do a better job of knowing the situation and being ready to act. Having to burn a timeout in a close game to decide whether you want to go for 2 is inexcusable.

Not to pat myself on the back, but I suspect that burned timeout might come back to haunt us. 1:34 left. We'll find out.

Arky
12-07-2008, 03:07 PM
Texans get into FG range on big pass to OD!

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4 seconds left, K Brown on for the FG.....

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Yeah baby! FG is good!

Final Score:

Texans 24, Packers 21

TheMatrix31
12-07-2008, 03:10 PM
Yes! What a game.

Joshua
12-07-2008, 03:10 PM
Texans win on kick by Brown. Once again, Kubiak turns away and refuses to watch the kick. I can't exactly say why, but that really bothers me.

TheMatrix31
12-07-2008, 03:11 PM
Texans win on kick by Brown. Once again, Kubiak turns away and refuses to watch the kick. I can't exactly say why, but that really bothers me.

Eh, he's just being a fan about it. Often times, I'll look away in those situations too. A huge pitch, a field goal, a crucial b-ball possession, free throws, etc...

Arky
12-07-2008, 03:12 PM
Texans win on kick by Brown. Once again, Kubiak turns away and refuses to watch the kick. I can't exactly say why, but that really bothers me.

Meh, big time Poker pros do it all the time on critical hands. IMO, it's not a weakness....

popanot
12-07-2008, 03:12 PM
I take it you aren't very familiar with Gus Johnson.

I'd rather have over-excitement than under-excitement.

Yeah, I'm familiar with him. We get him often it seems. But today I found him overly excited and overly annoying.

Joshua
12-07-2008, 03:17 PM
Meh, big time Poker pros do it all the time on critical hands. IMO, it's not a weakness....

I realize it's probably not a big deal and like I said, I really can't explain why I don't like it. I do think poker is different in that you have no control over the cards and you are at the mercy of deal. Football, not so much.

NBT
12-07-2008, 03:19 PM
The Texans are getting to be the heart attack kids. Who would have thought we could have 4 turnovers against GB in 5 degree weather, and still pull out the win. We are ever so slowly turning the corner from also ran to a pretty decent team. Not playoff caliber mind ya, that will come after next years draft, IMO.

Yahoo, Slaton the rookie RB, got his 1000 yds rushing today. We sure got a good one when we got him.

WMH
12-07-2008, 03:25 PM
The Texans are getting to be the heart attack kids. Who would have thought we could have 4 turnovers against GB in 5 degree weather, and still pull out the win. We are ever so slowly turning the corner from also ran to a pretty decent team. Not playoff caliber mind ya, that will come after next years draft, IMO.

Yahoo, Slaton the rookie RB, got his 1000 yds rushing today. We sure got a good one when we got him.

Totally agree. Not to play coulda, shoulda, woulda too much, but just think........We are 1 Ronsencopter play, and 1 4th down takle away from vying for a playoff spot. :mad:

Glad to see Schauby back in form this quickly. 8-8, and even 9-7 is definitely a possibility......

gunslinger57
12-07-2008, 03:29 PM
Texans win on kick by Brown. Once again, Kubiak turns away and refuses to watch the kick. I can't exactly say why, but that really bothers me.

Between this and the TO (which I didn't really have a problem with, I'd rather they do that then rush a play in that situation) is there anything that didn't bother you today? Everyone has a personality quirk. Putting the fate of the game (possibly) in the hands of the kicker made me turn away too when I was still playing.

To take the poker analogy a bit further, Kubiak went all in and bet everything on one turn of the cards. It was out of his control at that point, but he drew his cards and won. If he couldn't look, no biggie.

Nconroe
12-07-2008, 03:39 PM
wow, gives you hope we are on the right track. very good win.

nunusguy
12-07-2008, 04:01 PM
Poker, especially Texas Hold 'em, is really boring guys. The name of the game is BlackJack !
But congrats to the Texans, I'm truly proud of them today ! I never thought
they'd go up there to Green Bay after the short week and all with the big emotional win on their first ever MNF game and beat the Packers. Especially
when they needed to over come what, 4 turnovers vs the 1 for GB ?

Mike
12-07-2008, 04:10 PM
The offense was very good today. Turnovers kept it from being excellent, but give the Packers credit for making plays on OD and Steve. We left alot..alot of points out on the field.

One thing I can say, I know there are Kubiak detractors, but these guys have not quit on him. They might not play the smartest, cleanest football, but they have nutted up and played ball even after the poor start. I think he deserves credit for having the team prepared and not quitting (see jacksonville, Cleveland, Oakland etc).

I don't know who kidnapped Richard Smith, but the defense is playing totally different since Dunta came back.

Keith
12-07-2008, 05:03 PM
http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2008/20081207.html

The team is getting off the field on third downs, too. I think Dunta's return has something to do with that. Mario becoming a little more terrifying has something to do with that as well.

and btw, Gus Johnson is Gus Johnson, but I thought Steve Tasker did a fine job next to him today. It's pretty easy to knock these guys as a group, but Tasker is getting better at this job.

HPF Bob
12-07-2008, 06:01 PM
Tasker had it exactly right. Turnovers are killing the Texans and penalties are killing the Packers. Take away the TOs and we win by 20. Take away the penalties and they win by 20.

The Texans handle the cold better than you think. I remember when they beat the Bears in 12-degree weather. I think it's because they are all Virginians.

Good win and I think 8-8 is becoming more doable. Perhaps the Titans will lay down a little now that they've clinched the division. If I were Fisher, I'd sit Collins this week and start Vince. It would help Collins heal up and help Vince get back some confidence in a low-risk situation.

NBT
12-07-2008, 06:56 PM
I hate Steve Tasker! Sorriest color guy in anybody's booth. Always rags on the Texans. After GB scored to tie the game he practicaly assured the T.V. audience that GB would win. He don't know squat!!!!

popanot
12-07-2008, 07:13 PM
[I think Dunta's return has something to do with that. Mario becoming a little more terrifying has something to do with that as well.I think it's all of those factors, as well as the addition of Adibi, better (er, at least more consistent) play at the NT and S positions, and more aggressive play calling. While the D' played well today, and big kudos go out to them, they were probably lucky most of those knucklehead offensive turnovers happened deep in our own territory.

popanot
12-07-2008, 07:15 PM
Surprisingly, the Texans are still mathematically in the playoff hunt. They probably need to win all their games and everyone in front of them to lose them all, but they're still in it.

popanot
12-07-2008, 07:18 PM
http://www.inthebullseye.com/archive/2008/20081207.htmlLOL. Was flicking back and forth to that movie after the game.

Keith
12-07-2008, 07:31 PM
Surprisingly, the Texans are still mathematically in the playoff hunt. They probably need to win all their games and everyone in front of them to lose them all, but they're still in it.

I think they're in it unless the Ravens win tonight (or another game). Since the most # of wins the Texans can have is nine, I think we can look around the other teams to see that the Colts already have nine wins and a tie-breaker. The Ravens beat the Texans, so even if they win the division, the Steelers already have 10 wins (incl one over the Texans), so that'd be it.

With the Jags falling, at least this looks like the second season ever the team would finish out of the division cellar (or tied for last in the division). The Texans finished third in 2004 (7-9) ahead of the Titans (5-11).