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Keith
10-12-2008, 08:41 AM
Is today the day?

popanot
10-12-2008, 09:10 AM
Is today the day?That sure is an open-ended question. :p

nunusguy
10-12-2008, 09:49 AM
At 2-2 including a 25 point blowout victory on the road vs NE and a win against the
Chargers last week, the "Phins have momentum and confidance, neither of which the Texans have much of these days.
Here's hoping they finally get a win, but I dunno if it's gonna today ?

Arky
10-12-2008, 11:13 AM
Texans inactives are:
27 RB Chris Taylor
34 S Dominique Barber
52 LB Xavier Adibi
64 G Kasey Studdard
87 TE Mark Bruener
97 DT Frank Okam
94 DE N.D. Kalu
78 T Rashad Butler

Changes to the Texans' starting lineup: Cornerback DeMarcus Faggins will start for Fred Bennett.

Dolphins inactives are:
9 QB John Beck
18 WR Ernest Wilford
61 G Shawn Murphy
71 DE Lionel Dotson
75 T Nate Garner
76 T Kirk Barton
82 WR Derek Hagan
90 DE Rodrique Wright

http://www.houstontexans.com/gameday/GameInactive.asp?game_id=117&team=y

Today is the day! It is today until tomorrow and then it will become yesterday......

TheMatrix31
10-12-2008, 12:07 PM
That is so frustrating. INT.

Arky
10-12-2008, 12:07 PM
Dolphins kick off. Texans get a first down but Matt Schaub is intercepted on the next play.

Dolphins ball near midfield...

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Texans stop them on 3rd down, Miami to punt.

JJ fair catch at the Texan 12.

Arky
10-12-2008, 12:17 PM
Texans move the ball to about midfield where Schaub throws INT #2.

Dolphins use flea-flicker type play for deep pass and 6 pts.

Dolphins 7, Texans 0

TheMatrix31
10-12-2008, 12:21 PM
Sweet mother.

popanot
10-12-2008, 12:21 PM
If the Texans lose it's time for Kubiak to go, IMO. The team will be lost at that point.

mussop
10-12-2008, 12:22 PM
Schaub looks terrible. Wish we had a veteran QB to go to. :( I think at this point Sage is the better option, Put him in and lets hope he has learned fron his mistakes last week.

Arky
10-12-2008, 12:29 PM
Texans move down the field but stall out in the redzone. K Brown FG = good.

Dolphins 7, Texans 3

Texans moving the ball well but not much to show for it.....

Texans could use a turnover to swing momentum....

popanot
10-12-2008, 12:34 PM
Prediction: Porter will hit Schaub and create a turnover sooner or later. Probably at the worst possible time.

Arky
10-12-2008, 12:38 PM
Defense makes a stop so Miami punts. Ball rolls to the Texan 13. Texans with a long field - again.

Arky
10-12-2008, 12:44 PM
Texans move the ball into Miami territory but can't convert on 3rd down so Turk comes in to punt. Punt is touchback so Miami's ball at the 20.

On second down, Miami throws a little screen type play that goes all the way 80 yds.

Miami 14, Texans 3

popanot
10-12-2008, 12:46 PM
This f'ing team sucks!!!!

Dennis2112
10-12-2008, 12:50 PM
Davis with a good return, maybe this is where we start it off.


...I hope

TheMatrix31
10-12-2008, 12:51 PM
I'm loving these long throws, I have to say.

popanot
10-12-2008, 12:51 PM
On second down, Miami throws a little screen type play that goes all the way 80 yds.It amazes me that our offense can NEVER hit a big play like that.

popanot
10-12-2008, 12:53 PM
Schaub continues to throw into coverage.

Arky
10-12-2008, 12:54 PM
Miami kicks off - nice return by A Davis to about the Miami 42 yd. line.

20 yd pass to AJ. Texans already at the Miami 22....

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AD interferred with - Texans with a 1st and 10 in the redzone.

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Drive stalls - Kris Brown FG good from 33 yds.

Dolphins 14, Texans 6

TheMatrix31
10-12-2008, 01:04 PM
Jacoby with a 70 yard punt return for TD!

Arky
10-12-2008, 01:04 PM
Texans defense makes a much needed stop - Miami has to punt.

All the way with JJ! 70 yards.

Miami 14, Texans 13

Arky
10-12-2008, 01:12 PM
Texans kick off. Miami gets one first down and then the defense comes on strong again - Mario with a sack/FF.

Dolphins have to punt.

Texans takeover at their own 31. 1:47 left till halftime.

Arky
10-12-2008, 01:19 PM
Texans fail to get a 1st down after 2 running plays so punt time. Miami will get the ball with less than a minute left @ their own 16 yd. line.

Miami runs one play and lets the clock run out.

Arky
10-12-2008, 01:28 PM
Halftime:

Dolphins 14, Texans 13

Stats:

Schaub - 10/18 for 153 yds, 0 TD, 2 INT's

Rushing - Slaton 8/33 (4.1 avg), Green 5/19 (3.8 avg.)

Rec - Daniels, 3/60 (20 avg.), Johnson 5/57 (11.4 avg.)

Tackle leaders - Greenwood 5, Harrison 4, 3 each for Faggins, Demps, Cochran.

Time of Possession: Texans 17:32, Dolphins 12:28

Arky
10-12-2008, 01:38 PM
Texans kick off to Miami to start the 2nd half.

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Miami an inch away from a first down - they elect to punt.

JJ fields the ball and is tackled at the Texan 20.

TheMatrix31
10-12-2008, 01:42 PM
Man, that was a quick halftime. I missed the entire Miami possession + the Andre play.

Damn.

Arky
10-12-2008, 01:43 PM
Yeah baby! TD pass to AJ!

Texans 20, Dolphins 14

Texans 1st lead.

Need a FG or something - don't like that 6 pt differential....

Arky
10-12-2008, 01:51 PM
Dolphins come right back and drive down the field. Williams runs it in for the TD.

Dolphins 21, Texans 20

popanot
10-12-2008, 02:04 PM
Nice job. AJ. Yeah, Pro Bowler....

Arky
10-12-2008, 02:05 PM
Oh, my. AJ fumbles near the goal line. Ball recovered in the endzone.

Miami takes over at their own 20.

First non-QB turnover all year. :( Bad timing.

Arky
10-12-2008, 02:13 PM
Texans receive punt around their 30 yd line.

It's now or never, fellas. Very winnable ballgame......

Arky
10-12-2008, 02:18 PM
Texans go nowhere - have to punt.

Miami takes over around their 23 yd line.

This would be a great spot for Miami's first turnover.......

Arky
10-12-2008, 02:30 PM
Miami punts - touchback. Texans takeover @ their own 20. 9:43 left in game.

TheMatrix31
10-12-2008, 02:33 PM
That Walter play was HUGE!

Arky
10-12-2008, 02:35 PM
That Walter play was HUGE!

Yeah, baby. They're in FG range but 6 would be nice...

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Texans fail to convert on 3rd down. Kris Brown FG = good.

Texans 23, Dolphins 21

About 6 minutes left in the game...

popanot
10-12-2008, 02:44 PM
WTF! Would you protect the ball!!!! Jezzus!!! These guys are so undisciplined it's ridiculous!

Arky
10-12-2008, 02:51 PM
Dolphins run it in for the TD.

Dolphins 28, Texans 23

Texans have 1:43 and two timeouts to get something done....

popanot
10-12-2008, 02:52 PM
Unbelievable! This team is a joke. Soooooo stupid it's not even funny!!!

Arky
10-12-2008, 03:02 PM
Awesome!

.........

Arky
10-12-2008, 03:05 PM
Yippeeeeeeee! WooooooooHoooooooo! :D

popanot
10-12-2008, 03:05 PM
Well whadddaya know.... Someone finally made a play.

painekiller
10-12-2008, 03:09 PM
I'm in shock. Schaub showed up big on the last drive.

Arky
10-12-2008, 03:10 PM
Allrighty, then...

Schaub and the Texans get off the schneid.....

Final score:

Texans 29, Dolphins 28

Clutch comeback...

TheMatrix31
10-12-2008, 03:14 PM
I'm in shock. Schaub showed up big on the last drive.

YES!

It's a damn shame that this team should be 3-2 right now.

mussop
10-12-2008, 03:23 PM
I'm in shock. Schaub showed up big on the last drive.

Yeh but he got lucky that AJ made that int saving catch on the lst drive or he would be getting run out of town right now.

nunusguy
10-12-2008, 03:25 PM
Finally ! ! !

NBT
10-12-2008, 03:51 PM
BUT......we finally made the play when we had to! That is the difference. Now we can hold our heads up again, and go on from here.

Well, there is one thing.......Do Something about that defense and those frickin turnovers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HPF Bob
10-12-2008, 04:26 PM
Important win for the rest of the season's outlook. Something to build on. Gutty call on 4th down with the QB draw instead of a rollout run-pass option.
I suppose it being on fourth down meant there was nothing to lose but, man, watching that stork cover six yards must have seemed like five minutes getting across the goal line.

cadams
10-12-2008, 05:30 PM
1. to start out with something good, the team did what they had to do at the end of the game to get the win

2. I have been a kubiak supporter all along, but I am starting to think we have the wrong coach. I hope I am wrong, but at the end of the first, Miami was going to call a time out, but didn't because they were measuring for a first down. The Texans didn't get it, so they punted, but the clock started running and the Texans punted immediately instead of letting the clock run down or making the Miami call a time out. Second, well coached teams have players that make smart plays. The interception the Texans got at the end of the game should have iced it. The DBs should have known that if they got a pick with under 4 minutes to go you fall on the ball or at a minimum run for OB to make sure your offense can run time off the clock. That play almost cost them the win.

3. Slayton is the real deal.

4. I am really starting to worry that Schaub isn't the guy. He makes way to many mental mistakes.

5. Mario is a stud.

6. While I hope they can salvage the season, right now I don't think they are a very good team.


All this to say, I am excited they did what they had to do to win. It was good to finally get to leave the game happy . . .even if they didn't cover.

TheMatrix31
10-12-2008, 07:31 PM
Kubiak is the right guy, he just needs to work on game management issues. That stuff can be resolved.

I'm not quite as sure Schaub is the guy, but he led a great sequence at the end there.

I think we need to invest in a QB in the draft somewhere.

barrett
10-12-2008, 07:47 PM
I like Kubiak, but he is a bad gameday coach. I think he prepares guys well, inspires loyalty in both his staff and players, and has a good football mind. However, he is just plain bad in terms of gameday stuff. And I don't think it's just something that will get better. It may be a step back, some time as an assistant, and another go before he figures those things out. I fear we may have hired a good coach before he became good.

As for Schaub, he played very Sage-like today (making lots of plays and lots of mistakes). If we win the next two games, we will end up respectable this year, and I think both Schaub and Kubiak are safe through another off-season. A loss to either the chiefs or lions right now and it all spirals.

TexicanMexican
10-12-2008, 09:24 PM
I'm starting to think Kubiak gives Shanahan too much authority on offense. Some of the play calls on offense were questionable. Too many times they throw on first and don't complete thereby stopping the clock and left in long third down situations. I thought that they were moving the ball well by punching it up the gut but they got away from that.

Schaub is getting happy feet back there in the pocket and still trying to force plays. It's not pretty.

I'd like to see a more experienced offensive coordinator brought in. If nothing else to change the play calling.

It was funny watching all the people leave after the last Miami TD only to watch them all scrambling back to watch the finish. It was a crazy game to be at but fun in the end to finally be on the winning end of one. I'll be at my usual seat next week.

sinnister
10-12-2008, 10:14 PM
I just got home from the game. A 5 hour drive for me. My first game at Reliant Stadium, and it was a blast.

KJ3
10-13-2008, 07:26 AM
I'm starting to think Kubiak gives Shanahan too much authority on offense. Some of the play calls on offense were questionable. .
I don't think Kid-shanny gets too much say behind Kubiak and Gibbs. i could be wrong, but i don't think he has free reign to call the offense.


As for Schaub, he played very Sage-like today (making lots of plays and lots of mistakes). .

spot on.

Joshua
10-13-2008, 09:00 AM
I like Kubiak, but he is a bad gameday coach. I think he prepares guys well, inspires loyalty in both his staff and players, and has a good football mind. However, he is just plain bad in terms of gameday stuff. And I don't think it's just something that will get better. It may be a step back, some time as an assistant, and another go before he figures those things out. I fear we may have hired a good coach before he became good.



I agree with part of this. I don't think our guys are terribly well prepared. We get pantsed every week at least once. I knew the Dolphins would have a Wildcat wrinkle and I had little faith in our staff sniffing it out. Sure enough, reverse to Pennington with a wide open receiver for a TD. Granted, they had not run this play before, but our coaches are paid to get these guys prepared for any scenario. While I don't expect them to be perfect, when I can name a play or 2 in virtually every game where we simply didn't know what was going on, that's a bad trend.

The most inexcusable coaching blunder was on 4th down at the end of the half. Miami used a timeout but the refs gave it back because they stopped the clock to measure. However, once they blew the whistle, the clock starts running again, with about 40 seconds in the half (and about 20 on the play clock). Obviously, we should either force them to then use their timeout or run the play clock down. Instead, we snapped the ball with over 15 seconds on the play clock and just give them 15 extra seconds. Luckily, it didn't hurt us, but these types of blunders are ridiculous. I don't understand how I can pick this up sitting in Reliant's rafters but our coaching staff of 15 can't. It's just not a good gameday squad and will ultimately cost us games if they keep having 1-2 screw ups a game.

papabear
10-13-2008, 09:51 AM
I agree with part of this. I don't think our guys are terribly well prepared. We get pantsed every week at least once. I knew the Dolphins would have a Wildcat wrinkle and I had little faith in our staff sniffing it out. Sure enough, reverse to Pennington with a wide open receiver for a TD. Granted, they had not run this play before, but our coaches are paid to get these guys prepared for any scenario.


The thing is I remember hearing them talk about something like that leading up to the game. It was Kubiak or one of the players. They knew at some point there would be a lateral to Pennington, and had at least discussed it.

I agree that it always seems to happen, and some of the gameday decisions are bad, but in this case it's even more frustrating because I know it was something that was discussed.

painekiller
10-13-2008, 11:19 AM
I agree with part of this. I don't think our guys are terribly well prepared. We get pantsed every week at least once. I knew the Dolphins would have a Wildcat wrinkle and I had little faith in our staff sniffing it out. Sure enough, reverse to Pennington with a wide open receiver for a TD. Granted, they had not run this play before, but our coaches are paid to get these guys prepared for any scenario. While I don't expect them to be perfect, when I can name a play or 2 in virtually every game where we simply didn't know what was going on, that's a bad trend.


The coaches had this covered, some player blew his coverage. I thought at the time it was Harrison, but McClain said he thought it was one of the LBs, all I know was I could see Harrison moving towards cutting off the sweep, and having that oh no moment when he realized it was a pass.

Blame that one on the players, not the coaches.

Joshua
10-13-2008, 11:50 AM
The coaches had this covered, some player blew his coverage. I thought at the time it was Harrison, but McClain said he thought it was one of the LBs, all I know was I could see Harrison moving towards cutting off the sweep, and having that oh no moment when he realized it was a pass.

Blame that one on the players, not the coaches.

While I certainly agree with that to some extent, if the players are continually making mental mistakes, then it still comes back to the coaches in my opinion. That's great that the coaches supposedly prepared for it, but if they didn't practice it enough that the players on the field could recognize it, what's the point? The bottom line is, are the players prepared to the point that they are in position to make a play? Routinely, they are not.

painekiller
10-13-2008, 03:08 PM
While I certainly agree with that to some extent, if the players are continually making mental mistakes, then it still comes back to the coaches in my opinion. That's great that the coaches supposedly prepared for it, but if they didn't practice it enough that the players on the field could recognize it, what's the point? The bottom line is, are the players prepared to the point that they are in position to make a play? Routinely, they are not.

You just described the trouble with a young team. The players do not recognize things quick enough. And in the NFL, half a step is open. It hurts but that is why you have to play the younger guys, so they get enough reps and continue to grow.