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nunusguy
06-07-2019, 04:36 PM
Per John McClain twitter !
Statement from Houston Texans Chairman and CEO Cal McNair on Brian Gaine
The following is a statement from Houston Texans Chairman and CEO Cal McNair on Brian Gaine:

“After a thorough evaluation of our football operations, we have decided to relieve Brian Gaine of his duties as general manager. Brian is a man of high character and we appreciate his contributions to our organization. We will begin an immediate search for a new GM. In the interim, Football Operations will be led by Senior Vice President of Football Administration Chris Olsen. While the timing may be unusual, this decision was made in the best interest of our organization in our quest to build a championship team for the City of Houston.”
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https://www.houstontexans.com/news/statement-from-houston-texans-chairman-and-ceo-cal-mcnair-on-brian-gaine
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This move is so much unlike the Texans who are a very conservative and a very deliberate organization when it comes to decisions.
Now this sounds like the kind of move the Chuckster would pull off but not the McNair family.

Arky
06-07-2019, 05:26 PM
I thought he was doing a pretty good job. Must've been some friction somewhere in the machine.....

barrett
06-07-2019, 07:59 PM
This is very strange and I've got to think it's more than friction. You don't fire your 1 year on the job GM in June because of friction. What is there to even have friction over this time of year? There are no personnel or coaching decisions to be made right now. There is obviously a lot more to the story.

Warren
06-07-2019, 09:02 PM
Sounds like perhaps McNair got word that someone he thought would be better than Gaine would be interested and available if the job were open, so he made it open.

Lots of speculation that it's Nick Caserio, the Patriots director of player personnel who they tried to interview before they hired Gaine. There also seems to be lots of talk that new executive VP for team development Jack Easterby, who came from New England, has quickly gained a lot of influence within the Texans organization.

HPF Bob
06-07-2019, 09:13 PM
Oh well, Brian's loss is Houston's gai...or something like that.

Goody. We're going to be Patriot Lite.

chuck
06-07-2019, 09:56 PM
PFF mentioned what dogshit all of the FA signings have been.The caveat was those still with the team so they could ignore the two success stories. (Relative success, I guess.)

So maybe that, the buyer's remorse they may have on some or most of the recent draft picks after getting them in the building, and the availability of someone they really like have created the perfect storm.

I guess after a little reflection if they bring in someone who isn't a total dickwit I really don't care about this one way or the other.

chuck
06-07-2019, 09:59 PM
Also, maybe getting absolutely taken to the shed by the Eagles on draft day probably factors in, too.

barrett
06-07-2019, 10:53 PM
If we are firing the GM because we don't like his draft this year BEFORE THOSE GUYS PLAY A DOWN... then Cal is worse then Bob.

If we are firing our GM we hired a year ago because we think some other first time GM came available then ditto.

If we aren't doing this to get in front of some illegal act, then we have just descended to a level of instability that the worst Texans teams have never sniffed.

chuck
06-08-2019, 12:29 AM
I of course have no idea what was behind this but I think it was always the case that the overwhelming odds were that Cal was going to be worse than Bob, however much effort that might require.

HPF Bob
06-08-2019, 01:00 AM
Look how well the Steinbrenner family tree has done with the Yankees.

Typically, the sons of the very successful aren't as good as their fathers because of the inbred sense of entitlement and having access to money to tidy up most of their messes.

Oh, did I mention the Bushes?

In general, promoting "junior" to CEO is a bad idea.

Yeah, let's hope Cal sells the team.

barrett
06-08-2019, 01:20 AM
Look how well the Steinbrenner family tree has done with the Yankees.

Typically, the sons of the very successful aren't as good as their fathers because of the inbred sense of entitlement and having access to money to tidy up most of their messes.

Oh, did I mention the Bushes?

In general, promoting "junior" to CEO is a bad idea.

Yeah, let's hope Cal sells the team.

Younger Steinbrenner patiently drafted players and spent responsibly. He hasn't purchased championships like pops but he runs a better franchise.

Warren
06-08-2019, 10:28 AM
If we aren't doing this to get in front of some illegal act, then we have just descended to a level of instability that the worst Texans teams have never sniffed.In the official statement, McNair called Gaine "a man of high character" which is not what you do when you fire somebody for cause. So I guess there's your answer...

barrett
06-08-2019, 01:00 PM
In the official statement, McNair called Gaine "a man of high character" which is not what you do when you fire somebody for cause. So I guess there's your answer...

Yep. I assume that's not it because of that statement, so I guess we just fired a guy after a year for some absurd football related reason.

Arky
06-08-2019, 01:48 PM
Yep. I assume that's not it because of that statement, so I guess we just fired a guy after a year for some absurd football related reason.

Or is could be friction. Ya know, clash of personalities?

barrett
06-08-2019, 07:19 PM
Or is could be friction. Ya know, clash of personalities?

If our front office gets along so poorly that they have to fire a guy on a 5 year contract after 1 year that reflects just as poorly as any other ridiculous scenario.

chuck
06-08-2019, 11:27 PM
If our front office gets along so poorly that they have to fire a guy on a 5 year contract after 1 year that reflects just as poorly as any other ridiculous scenario.

I'd like to think that they decided that he just sucked at his job and decided to cut bait quickly rather than wait around for eight or ten years to see if he got any better at it like Warden Robert would have done.

But who knows, this is the Texans so it's probably something monumentally stupid.

barrett
06-09-2019, 01:34 AM
I'd like to think that they decided that he just sucked at his job and decided to cut bait quickly rather than wait around for eight or ten years to see if he got any better at it like Warden Robert would have done.

But who knows, this is the Texans so it's probably something monumentally stupid.

I think that's the best case scenario. He was the Brock Osweiller of GMs and they decided to pay to fix their mistake.

But if that's the case how did he get hired last year?

Arky
06-09-2019, 04:58 AM
I think that's the best case scenario. He was the Brock Osweiller of GMs and they decided to pay to fix their mistake.
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No one knows. At least, until something leaks out about it...

We are all speculating here. At least, I am. That's what this forum is for.

Maybe Gaine wanted out... Scenario: Gaine goes to Cal and says, "I can't work with that butt-chinned mofo anymore. I want out."

The possibilities are endless....

nunusguy
06-09-2019, 08:07 AM
I think that's the best case scenario. He was the Brock Osweiller of GMs and they decided to pay to fix their mistake.

But if that's the case how did he get hired last year?

Gaine had previously worked in the Texans' organization for 3 years before accepting the GM position, so you'd think he'd be a known quantity by now.

painekiller
06-10-2019, 08:12 AM
There is a rumor that Gaine inquired into the Jets job through his agent, and McNair did not want the man leading the charge on the new direction to be looking to move on, so preemptive strike.

Now there is the chance that this is total fabricated

chuck
06-10-2019, 12:09 PM
There is a rumor that Gaine inquired into the Jets job through his agent, and McNair did not want the man leading the charge on the new direction to be looking to move on, so preemptive strike.

Now there is the chance that this is total fabricated

Two things can be true at the same time, that they caught him looking to move to the Jets AND they realized that his FA signings were terrible and that he got pantsed in the draft.

Demanding accountability for performance at high levels within the organization has not been a hallmark of the Texans to date, so who knows, maybe Cal is ushering in a new paradigm. Or maybe this take is just more of my relentless optimism.

Arky
06-10-2019, 02:06 PM
I just read 3 articles on this in the Chronicle - Sunday's paper.

Brian T Smith - describes OB as "difficult to get along with" and wonders why the McNairs keep ceding him a little bits of more power as the years go by.... That the Texans should hire the best GM for the job and not who OB wants. Bottom line - he wonders if the McNairs know how to win....

Jerome Solomon wonders why OB hasn't been fired yet, that Gaine was not a McNair hire but an OB hire.

Maybe Gaine was too stubborn. O’Brien definitely is.

Being loud and unbending doesn’t make a person more right. O’Brien makes confident, wronger than wrong calls almost every Sunday during football season.

Two hardheads battling over decisions is not the atmosphere Bob McNair envisioned, cultivated and demanded.

John McClain mentions that the Texans will have three GM's on the payroll (Smith/Gaine/new guy) and that the Texans considered Gaine a better personnel man than a GM.

McNair, the team’s chairman and chief executive officer who has been overseeing the organization for the last two years while his late father, Bob McNair, battled cancer, made the decision to fire Gaine. It wasn’t a knee-jerk reaction but one he considered for several weeks.

Whether you agree or disagree, McNair thought Gaine was a better personnel man than a general manager. Rather than going into another season hoping the situation would improve, McNair elected to fire Gaine with 3½ years left on his contract.

Although it won’t fall under his job title, expect O’Brien to gain more influence over departments that usually come under the auspices of the general manager.

chuck
06-10-2019, 02:16 PM
... the Texans considered Gaine a better personnel man than a GM.

As they say on the interwebs, lol wut.

barrett
06-10-2019, 04:17 PM
The fact that the idiots at the Chronicle don't like O'Brien makes me think more highly of him. They are in business purely based on momentum.

Arky
06-10-2019, 06:31 PM
As they say on the interwebs, lol wut.

I think he means that personnel is just one part of being a GM. There's also medical, training, strength and rehabilitation and nutrition.

Radio speculating that Nick Caserio, Patriot personnel director since 2008 contacted the Texans and said he was ready to come on down.

I put his chances of getting the job @ -10000 (a $10,000 bet will win you $100. So, we are swapping out one personnel guy for another personnel guy.


The fact that the idiots at the Chronicle don't like O'Brien makes me think more highly of him. They are in business purely based on momentum.

Well! If you can't trust the Chronicle bringing the truth, who can you trust?

Full article:

Solomon: This Texans divorce doesn’t add up (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/columnists/solomon/article/Solomon-This-Texans-divorce-doesn-t-add-up-13962685.php?utm_campaign=chron&utm_source=article&utm_medium=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chron.com%2Fsports%2F texans%2Farticle%2FTexans-request-to-interview-Patriots-Nick-13965998.php)

Arky
06-12-2019, 06:44 PM
Chron - Patriots file tampering charges against Texans over pursuit of Nick Caserio (https://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Patriots-file-tampering-charge-Texans-Nick-Caserio-13974788.php)

McClain - McClain: A battle looming between Texans, Patriots for Nick Caserio (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/McClain-A-battle-looming-between-Texans-13969728.php?utm_source=article&utm_campaign=chron&utm_medium=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chron.com%2Fsports%2F texans%2Farticle%2FPatriots-file-tampering-charge-Texans-Nick-Caserio-13974788.php)