View Full Version : Official Texans vs. Titans Game Thread, 10/1/2017
The 1-2 Houston Texans host the 2-1 Tennessee Titans this Sunday at NRG stadium in an early game. The Texans are coming off a 36-33 road loss to the New England Patriots. The Titans are coming off a 33-27 home win vs. the Seattle Seahawks. Big game (yes, they're all big) for the Texans as they can't afford to go 0-2 in the division.
This may not be the game for the Texans to try to go mostly with the run. The Titan front seven is very strong but they seem to have vulnerabilities in the secondary (26th in passing defense). OTOH, the Texan defense can expect to see a lot of the very good Titan run game....
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TV = CBS (channel 11 local), noon Sunday, October 1, 2017
Announcers (http://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2017&wk=4) = Kevin Harlan, Rich Gannon
The line (http://www.madduxsports.com/nfl-odds.php) = pickem to Titans by 2½
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Other Sunday viewing in the Houston area:
FOX (really early) = New Orleans vs Miami (in London), Kevin Burkhardt, Charles Davis, 8:30 am CST
CBS (late) = Oakland @ Denver, Jim Nantz, Tony Romo
FOXS (late) = Philadelphia @ LA Chargers, Dick Stockton, Mark Schlereth
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Prime time:
TNF = Chicago @ Green Bay (CBS/NFLN)
SNF = Indianapolis @ Seattle (NBC)
MNF = Washington @ Kansas City (ESPN)
HPF Bob
09-29-2017, 08:24 PM
I understand the Saints and Dolphins will join together and make black power salutes during the national anthems while claiming they mean no disrespect to the flag or the queen.
chuck
09-30-2017, 12:54 AM
I understand the Saints and Dolphins will join together and make black power salutes during the national anthems while claiming they mean no disrespect to the flag or the queen.
I say we open a firehose on them, what do you think? Maybe burn a couple of goalposts.
Man, the networks used to show commercials during the National Anthem. It has now become an event...
Who's standing? Who's kneeling? Who's assumed the lotus position and is going "ommm"?
Jeez, I don't care - just give me the ballgame...
HPF Bob
09-30-2017, 12:34 PM
I say we open a firehose on them, what do you think? Maybe burn a couple of goalposts.
London has turned Muslim so I'd expect they might be thrown off tall buildings like the Muzzies do with gays. Or, I suppose, they could just behead them.
Back in the States, the Texans will find it tough to stop the Titans' running attack. Tennessee is soft on pass defense so will they try to open it up with Watson?
chuck
09-30-2017, 01:42 PM
Ah, that's right. London no-go zones governed by Sharia law. Somehow I'd forgotten all about that fantasy.
Wurld's goin ta hell, haint it, Buford?
Titans win the toss and will receive.
Kickoff is brought out to the Titan 22.
my Directv connection is going nuts... There it is
On 3rd and 6, Mariota's pass is INT'ed by Hal! Texans ball at the Titan 43.
14:01 left in the 1st qtr.
L Miller for 3.
Pass to Ellington goes to the 5 yard line.
L Miller for about 2½. 2nd and goal coming up.
Pitchout to L Miller going left goes for the TD!
Texans 7, Titans 0
12:13 left in the 1st qtr.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Titan's ball at their 25.
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Murray for 5.
Murray for 2. 3rd and 3 coming up.
Murray for 1. Titans have to punt on 4th and 1.
Punt is returned to the Texan 23. Texan's ball.
10:16 left in the 1st qtr.
Rollout pass to Anderson gets 11.
L Miller for about 2.
Pass to Griffin too tall, inc. Brings up 3rd and 8.
Pass to Hop gets 9 and the 1st down.
Watson pressured, throws it away, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
L Miller for 6. 3rd and 4 coming up.
Pass to Griffin gets 6 and the 1st down. Ball at the Titan 43.
L Miller for 2.
L Miller wide open in the flat takes the pass all the way to the Titan 9, 1st and goal.
L Miller for 1.
Pass to Hop over the middle good for the TD!
Texans 14, Titans 0
5:09 left in the 1st qtr.
Big Texas
10-01-2017, 12:24 PM
I like what where you are going with this game plan Bill...
chuck
10-01-2017, 12:24 PM
The execution has obviously been great but like last week I'm so impressed with the game plan.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Titan's ball at their 25.
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Pass to Decker gets 6.
Henry loses 1. Brings up 3rd and 5.
Pass to Matthews off the mark, inc. Titan's have to punt.
Punt is fair caught at the Texan 24. Texan's ball.
3:39 left in the 1st qtr.
Foreman for 5.
Texans use a timeout (#1).
On 2nd and 5, Watson does the QB draw for 9 yards, 1st down.
Foreman for 4.
Foreman for 3. Brings up 3rd and 3.
Flat pass to Fuller gets 6 and the 1st down.
Foreman powers for 5.
Pass to Anderson goes for 17. Ball at the Titan 27.
WR screen to Hop goes for 10.
End of the 1st qtr.
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Pass to Fuller in the end zone is good for the TD! 16 yards!
Texans 21, Titans 0
14:54 left in the half.
Who are these guys?
chuck
10-01-2017, 12:42 PM
This is crazy.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Titan's ball at their 25.
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Murray gets in a scrum for 8.
Pass to Matthews gets 3 and the 1st down.
Pass to Walker gets 22. Ball at the Texan 38.
Murray dances for 9.
Flags presnap, false start Titans, -5. Brings up 2nd and 6.
Mariota keeps for a big 34 run for the TD.
Texans 21, Titan 7
11:44 left in the half.
Gotta start thinking about the Over in Texans games, now....
Big Texas
10-01-2017, 12:50 PM
One mistake Clowney...he shouldn't make that one again...
Big Texas
10-01-2017, 12:57 PM
When you have established that your QB is willing AND ABLE to be you with his legs the defense has to account for him...opening up running lanes...looking good offense...
It feels so weird...its like you are waiting for something bad to happen...lol...keep it up fellas
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
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L Miller for 5.
L Miller for 6 and the 1st down.
End around to Fuller gets 4.
L Miller goes for 9 and the 1st down. Ball at the Texan 49.
L Miller for 9.
L Miller for 3 and the 1st down.
Deep pass to Fuller near the end zone too long, inc.
On 2nd and 10, slant pass to Hop is good for 15 and the 1st down.
L Miller for 4. Ball at the Titan 19.
Foreman sweep right for 11 but holding on the Texans backs it up. Makes it 2nd and 16 at the Texan 29.
Hop can't hold on to the short pass over the middle, inc. Brings up 3rd and 16.
Watson gets sacked and loses 3. Texans going for the FG.
Fairbairn's 50-yarder is good!
Texans 24, Titan 7
6:01 left in the half.
When you have established that your QB is willing AND ABLE to be you with his legs the defense has to account for him...opening up running lanes...looking good offense...
It feels so weird...its like you are waiting for something bad to happen...lol...keep it up fellas
True that, lotta game left....
barrett
10-01-2017, 01:06 PM
The execution has obviously been great but like last week I'm so impressed with the game plan.
Seriously. Good QB play is making everything else so much better. We look surgical in our execution. The OL looks competent. Fuller looks good. We're converting 3rd downs. OB looks in the zone on play calling with everything working off itself.
I'm about to google super bowl tickets online.
Big Texas
10-01-2017, 01:09 PM
Oh no...they are realizing how bad our back end is...
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Titan's ball at their 25.
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Pass to Walker gets 20.
Pass to Matthews gets 13.
Henry for 3.
End around to Taylor gets 6. 3rd and 1 coming up. A little over 3 minutes left in the half.
Henry gets 3 and the 1st down. Ball at the Texan 30.
Pass to Matthews goes to the Texan 2 yard line. 1st and goal.
2 minute warning.
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Mariota rolls out right and keeps for the TD.
Texans 24, Titans 14
1:50 left in the half.
barrett
10-01-2017, 01:15 PM
Between arm strength, speed of WRs, and a run game that makes safeties come up, it looks like we might be able to capitalize on the old Ravens strategy of chuck it deep and hope for PI.
The ensuing kickoff is brought back by Thompson all the way to the Texan 42. Texan's ball.
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Watson pressured, throws it away inc. Flag on the defense for hands to the face, 5 yards and an auto 1st down.
Pass to Griffin goes for 7. 1:31 left in the half.
Deep pass to Fuller in the end zone draws the PI. Ball is placed at the Titan 1 yard line. 1st and goal.
Watson keeps for the TD!
Oy, Fairbairn misses the XP.
Texans 30, Titans 14
1:19 left in the half.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Titan's ball at their 25.
Hal with the pick! Ball at midfield! Texan's ball!
barrett
10-01-2017, 01:20 PM
Great interception.
When you score 30 in the first half even a running team like Tennessee will abandon the running game to start chucking it. This is beautiful.
barrett
10-01-2017, 01:23 PM
I guess you live and die with a QB who thinks he can make every play.
Watson scrambles for 10.
Short pass to L Miller over the middle gets 2. 36 seconds left in the half.
Pass to Hop goes for 21. Ball at the Titan 18.
Pass to Griffin in the end zone off the mark, inc.
Pass towards Hop is picked by the Titans. Titan's ball at their 9 yard line with 10 seconds left in the half.
Titans kneel it.
Halftime:
Texans 30, Titans 14
chuck
10-01-2017, 01:33 PM
The ensuing kickoff is brought back by Thompson all the way to the Texan 42.
I had to read this three times to understand it.
Yeah, Deshaun made a couple of bad reads and bad decisions that last drive. I can live with it.
barrett
10-01-2017, 01:39 PM
I had to read this three times to understand it.
Yeah, Deshaun made a couple of bad reads and bad decisions that last drive. I can live with it.
You hope he learns what plays he can't make, but you like that he thinks he can make every play.
barrett
10-01-2017, 01:48 PM
Hopkins is molesting this guy on the sideline and for once they aren't calling offensive PI against him.
The 2nd half kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
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L Miller for 9.
L Miller gets 2 and the 1st down.
Watson pressured, throws it away, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Watson buys some time and finds Hop for a gain of 15.
Short pass to Ellington gets 5.
L Miller goes for about 3. Brings up 3rd and 2.
Quick pass to Hop gets 6 and the 1st down. Ball at the Titan 36.
L Miller caught for a loss of 1.
Quick pass to Hop gets 5. 3rd and 6 coming up.
Ellington makes a catch for 5 yards. Brings up 4th and 1. Texans going for it.
Quick pass to Hop gets 4 in the flat, 1st down. Ball at the Titan 23.
Pass to Hop draws the PI. Ball is placed at the Titan 10 yard line. 1st and goal.
Whistles presnap.....false start on the Texans, -5 yards. 1st and 15 to the goal line.
Watson keeps for 4. 2nd and 11 coming up.
L Miller goes for 6. 3rd and goal at the 5 yard line.
False start Texans. -5 yards. 10½ yards to go for the TD.
Fuller hangs on! TD!
Texans 37, Titans 14
6:51 left in the 3rd qtr.
chuck
10-01-2017, 01:56 PM
For every regrettable read Deshaun will make two or three or four unbelievable throws where he throws a guy open. Griffin last week, Fuller just now, and those are just the TD throws. He usually looks a lot more like a veteran than he does a rookie.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Titan's ball at their 25.
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The Jets are leading the Jags 17-10......smh... I'm on the Jags...
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Cassel in at QB.
Pass to Murray gets 4.
Murray for 2. 3rd and 4 coming up.
Cassel's pass off the mark, inc. Titans have to punt.
Punt is caught out of bounds at the Texan 14. Texan's ball.
5:12 left in the 3rd qtr.
Foreman powers for 5.
Foreman stopped for no gain.
On 3rd and 5, quick pass to Fuller gets a few yards but flag is down, illegal shift on the Texans is declined. Texans have to punt.
Punt is brought back to the Titan 21. Titan's ball.
3:27 left in the 3rd qtr.
barrett
10-01-2017, 02:05 PM
I love that every media outlet anointed Tennessee in the offseason even though we had owned them in recent years. It was a pick against he texans more than for the titans, but it was still hilarious to me they replaced us with a team who had most of the same issues.
Pass to Murray in the flat goes for no gain.
Murray for 3.
On 3rd and 7, Cassel's pass is off the mark, inc. Titans have to punt.
Punt goes out of bounds at the Texan 27. Texan's ball.
1:46 left in the 3rd qtr.
Slant to Hop goes for 13.
Foreman for about 1 yard.
Foreman goes for 3 but flag is down.....offsides defense, 5 yards. 2nd and 4 coming up at the Texan 46.
End of the 3rd qtr.
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On 2nd and 4, deep pass to Fuller is broken up, inc.
Pass to L Miller goes for 14 and the 1st down.
Foreman for 3.
Foreman for no gain. 3rd and 7 coming up.
Pass to L Miller over the middle draws the PI flag and also a roughing the passer penalty (accepted). Places the ball at the Titan 22, 1st down.
Pitch to Ellington goes to the Titan 9, 1st and goal.
L Miller for 1.
Watson passes to L Miller for TD!
Texans 44, Titans 14
11:19 left in the game.
chuck
10-01-2017, 02:22 PM
Put this one in the books, boys.
barrett
10-01-2017, 02:26 PM
I thought Deshaun was incredible. The first touchdown throw I said Touchdown! just as he released it. Although you could see a very small part of the field, it was just blindingly obvious that he saw someone open and that he was throwing it to the end zone. By the way, how typical is it that the team has thrown all sorts of picks at the WR position and the best receiver on the team not named Deandre is a guy they signed off the street?
Despite some egregious clock management issues and some typically terrible play calling, I thought the game plan was more or less exactly what it needed to be. Play action worked great, the roll outs were great and I'd like to see more of them, you can do a lot with the split back sets and I'd like to see them use that formation more both for pass protection and for rushing plays. Other than the first possession we didn't see much running towards the sideline, and I think with Watson's legs you can use an option pitch out of the split back set to great effect once or twice a game.
In a similar concept to isn't it amazing how much smarter your father gets as you go from 17 to 25, isn't it amazing how much better the OL gets when you employ a decent game plan? Sure NE's front seven is at best nothing special, but still.
The bad news is the team's secondary is horrific. The good news is most teams don't have Tom Brady to exploit it.
First we ran it for a TD to Miller, and then it wasn't from split backs, but they definitely added the speed option this week. Bill O'Brien the most vanilla play caller of the past 3 years is going speed option to a WR coming on a reverse.
Maybe OB is a 'genius' in very specific circumstances like when he has a good QB. I guess this makes him like everyone else in the NFL.
The ensuing kickoff is brought back to the Titan 42. Titan's ball.
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Deep pass is caught but out of bounds so inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Picked by Gilchrist! Texan's ball at the Titan 42!
10:55 left in the game.
Put this one in the books, boys.
Let's go for a 50 burger..
The famine has been too long.....
Foreman goes left side for 15.
Foreman for 2.
Foreman gets 2 more. Brings up 3rd and 6.
Oooph, pass too long for L Miller. Texans going for the FG.
Fairbairn's 40-yarder is good!
Texans 47, Titans 14
8:39 left in the game.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Titan's ball at their 25.
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Pick 6 by Cole!
Texans 54, Titans 14
8:31 left in the game.
LOL, WTF is going on.... did I inhale some mushroom vapor working in the yard?.....
Big Texas
10-01-2017, 02:37 PM
Get Watson, Hopkins, Watt, and Fuller out now...
barrett
10-01-2017, 02:39 PM
Watson is in his 3rd start and already scored 50. Something that David Carr, Tony Banks, Dave Ragone, Matt Schaub, Sage Rosenfels, TJ Yates, Matt Leinhart, Case Keenum, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ryan Mallett, Brian Hoyer, Brandon Weeden, Brock Osweiller, and Tom Savage couldn't do.
chuck
10-01-2017, 02:39 PM
They've run a couple of pitch outs, effectively, but haven't really used the split back formation more than a time or two. Maybe they thought they'd put too much of it on film. Who cares, we've hung 50+ on these fools.
I've been half watching the Cowboys-Rams game. As bad as Goff was at first, and he was horrible as a rookie, he's pretty good now. Hell, they're thinking about beating the Cowboys in Arlington and going 3-1. Anyway, that's sort of what I expected from Deshaun. I thought he'd be bad at first and hopefully he'd develop into something decent later. Welp.
barrett
10-01-2017, 02:40 PM
While the positive vibes are flowing I want to ask if anyone still wants to argue with me about whether spending a high draft pick on a QB is a good idea?
barrett
10-01-2017, 02:42 PM
They've run a couple of pitch outs, effectively, but haven't really used the split back formation more than a time or two. Maybe they thought they'd put too much of it on film. Who cares, we've hung 50+ on these fools.
I've been half watching the Cowboys-Rams game. As bad as Goff was at first, and he was horrible as a rookie, he's pretty good now. Hell, they're thinking about beating the Cowboys in Arlington and going 3-1. Anyway, that's sort of what I expected from Deshaun. I thought he'd be bad at first and hopefully he'd develop into something decent later. Welp.
It's like talented guys have a better chance to develop into good starting QBs. And like talented guys have a better chance to develop with a coach not named Jeff Fisher.
The ensuing kickoff is brought back by Jackson to the 20 or so but flags are down.....holding on the Titans, roughing on the Texans, offsetting, ball ends up at the Titan 3 yard line. Titan's ball.
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Henry for 2.
Henry for no gain. 3rd and 8 coming up.
Pass to Walker gets 9 and the 1st down.
Pass to Decker gets 7.
Clowney with the strip sack! Texan's recover! Texan's ball at the Titan 15!
5:50 left in the game.
barrett
10-01-2017, 02:46 PM
And there's Tom Savage holding the ball waaayyy too long. I wonder if his agent makes comments after the game about how he deserves to start.
60-burger...
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Savage in at QB.
Foreman for no gain.
Savage is sacked. Loss of 8.
On 3rd and 18, Blue goes for 8. Texans going for the FG.
Fairbairn's 33-yarder is good.
Texans 57, Titans 14
3:34 left in the game.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Titan's ball at their 25.
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Henry for no gain.
Cassel sacked by Cole! Loss of 1.
On 3rd and 11, pass is caught but out of bounds so inc. Titans have to punt.
Punt is returned for no gain by Thompson. Texan's ball.
2:06 left in the game.
Ball at the Texans 26.
Blue for 5.
2 minute warning.
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On 2nd and 5, Blue gets 1.
Blue gets stopped on 3rd down. Texans to punt.
Punt is downed by the Texans at the Titan 9. Titan's ball.
16 seconds left in the game.
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Titans run a play and the clock runs out.
Final score:
Texans 57, Titans 14
While the positive vibes are flowing I want to ask if anyone still wants to argue with me about whether spending a high draft pick on a QB is a good idea?
Well, the tricky part is getting it right..... I think they may have gotten it right...
barrett
10-01-2017, 03:21 PM
Well, the tricky part is getting it right..... I think they may have gotten it right...
I agree it's hard to get right when you pick one.
But it's impossible to get right if you don't even try.
I agree it's hard to get right when you pick one.
But it's impossible to get right if you don't even try.
That's true. Or you could fill the time with journeyman backups until you find the one you like.....
barrett
10-01-2017, 03:31 PM
That's true. Or you could fill the time with journeyman backups until you find the one you like.....
That's not a great idea, but it's not the worst idea unless you pay one of those journeymen $72 million and then have to spend a 2nd round pick to get rid of him.
That's not a great idea, but it's not the worst idea unless you pay one of those journeymen $72 million and then have to spend a 2nd round pick to get rid of him.
I used to gamble a bit (still do but not with real money). One philosophy was you have to play (bet) in order to win (cash). Another philosophy was "I'm not playing so I don't lose". See the conundrum?
barrett
10-01-2017, 03:40 PM
I used to gamble a bit (still do but not with real money). One philosophy was you have to play (bet) in order to win (cash). Another philosophy was "I'm not playing so I don't lose". See the conundrum?
So you're saying in the NFL you either get a QB or you fold your franchise because it's pointless to play? I agree.
So you're saying in the NFL you either get a QB or you fold your franchise because it's pointless to play? I agree.
Good. It would be pointless to get a QB unless he's a good one....cause there's plenty of doggy 1st round QB's in the league.... Your committing at least a couple of years to finding out what you got..... What Watson is doing is rare as hen's teeth...
chuck
10-01-2017, 03:52 PM
You don't have to fold your franchise, you can just sit back and watch 80,000 people a week stream in regardless of the product you offer.
I'm just glad that Deshaun is going to continue my unrivaled run of spectacular failure in predicting who will and who will not be a good NFL quarterback. And I was laughing my ass off when Tom "Cement Shoes" Savage came in and immediately chiseled himself into a statue sack.
The news around the league gets better and better. Cowboys lose, Pats lose, Jags lose. Titans lose. Colts going to lose. I don't even know who they're playing but they're going to lose.
nunusguy
10-01-2017, 05:03 PM
A really outstanding performance today by the offense in particular, what a satisfying win.
barrett
10-01-2017, 07:13 PM
Good. It would be pointless to get a QB unless he's a good one....cause there's plenty of doggy 1st round QB's in the league.... Your committing at least a couple of years to finding out what you got..... What Watson is doing is rare as hen's teeth...
Are you really defending the Texans' handling of the QB position in the last 4 years? Really? Could you possibly be so Pollyanna to convince yourself that Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ryan Mallett, Brian Hoyer, Brandon Weeden, Brock Osweiller, and Tom Savage was a reasonable way to spend the last 3 years?
Are you really defending the Texans' handling of the QB position in the last 4 years? Really? Could you possibly be so Pollyanna to convince yourself that Ryan Fitzpatrick, Ryan Mallett, Brian Hoyer, Brandon Weeden, Brock Osweiller, and Tom Savage was a reasonable way to spend the last 3 years?
"Doesn't matter, Brian. AFC South champs 2 years in a row, Brian...."
You make it sound like Deshaun Watson's grow on trees....
Early line (http://www.footballlocks.com/nfl_odds.shtml) has the Chiefs as a 1½ pt. favorite over the Texans next Sunday night..
Big Texas
10-01-2017, 08:12 PM
Early line (http://www.footballlocks.com/nfl_odds.shtml) has the Chiefs as a 1½ pt. favorite over the Texans next Sunday night..
That defense is no joke...
The offense love to throw the ball...
Sounds like the makings of a tough game for us...
Our back end is still very suspect and our front seven can get okie doked with creative playcalling...
I hope OBrien can bring it because this one may be a shoot out...
That defense is no joke...
The offense love to throw the ball...
Sounds like the makings of a tough game for us...
Our back end is still very suspect and our front seven can get okie doked with creative playcalling...
I hope OBrien can bring it because this one may be a shoot out...
Yes, we get to watch them (KC) on MNF tomorrow. I assume OB will be watching.....
Chiefs rated in the top 3 in most the power rankings. Only undefeated team left at 3-0.... Just hope the Texans don't have a let-down game from such a nice win - can't let the newspapers/chatter go to their heads.....
nunusguy
10-02-2017, 10:05 AM
I'll be pulling for the Chiefs tonight and hope they win by a large margin, remain unbeaten, and therefor perhaps come into NRG next Sunday night fat, sassy, and confidant of their invincability.
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