View Full Version : Official Texans @ Bengals Game Thread, 9/14/2017
Thought I'd start this early because of the Thursday night game.... more info to be added later....
Recent transactions:
09/12/2017 The Houston Texans moved the following player from the Reserve/Suspended list to the active roster: WR Jaelen Strong
09/12/2017 The Houston Texans placed the following player on the Reserve/Injured list: TE C.J. Fiedorowicz
Fido being given a good, long time to recover. 3rd concussion this month, I believe....
nunusguy
09-13-2017, 08:38 AM
And word is O'Brien will be starting rookie QB Watson with sore ankle and all thursday night in Cinci.
How's that for a David Carr & Texans Xpansion team with their deplorable Oline redux of 2002 ?
Nconroe
09-13-2017, 12:24 PM
I can't believe they are so hard headed they won't talk with Duane Brown. He's one of there top all time players.
The 0-1 Houston Texans travel to Cincinnati to play the 0-1 Bengals for Thursday Night Football. The Texans are coming off an embarrassing 29-7 home loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Bengals are coming off an embarrassing 20-0 home loss to the Baltimore Ravens. Obviously, the loser gets to start the season 0-2.
Bengals QB Andy Dalton uncharacteristically threw 4 INT's and lost a fumble in the loss to the Ravens, probably one of the worst starts of his career. One would expect him to perform better against the Texans...
The Texans are expected to start rookie QB Deshaun Watson. It will be Watson's first NFL start after seeing some action in week 1 in the 2nd half. The Texans are banged up from 5 concussions in game 1. With all three TE's concussed, the Texans have activated (http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Transactions-Texans-sign-Evan-Baylis/1ea41a1c-dc3d-4e51-883f-30fb705cd89b) rookie TE Evan Baylis (Oregon) from the practice squad. The Texans lead the series vs. the Bengals 5-4.
TV = NFLN, 7:25 pm CST, Thursday, 9/14/2017
Announcers (http://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2017&wk=2) = Mike Tirico, Cris Collinsworth, Heather Cox (Field reporter)
The line (http://www.madduxsports.com/nfl-odds.php) = Bengals by 6½ to 7
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Sunday viewing in the Houston area:
CBS (early) = New England @ New Orleans, Jim Nantz, Tony Romo
CBS (late) = Philadelphia @ Kansas City, Kevin Burkhardt, Charles Davis
FOX (late) = Dallas @ Denver, Joe Buck, Troy Aikman
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Other prime time:
SNF = Green Bay @ Atlanta (NBC)
MNF = Detroit @ NY Giants (ESPN)
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Texans announce that Brian Cushing has been suspended for 10 games for PEDs.
2:23 PM - 13 Sep 2017
chuck
09-13-2017, 05:34 PM
Imagine how terrible he'd be if he hadn't juiced.
HPF Bob
09-14-2017, 05:47 AM
Think of it this way - what other way could Cushing be healthy enough to play in our late-season games? By December, he's almost always tearing a tendon or extending a ligament. This is one guy I hope/suspect will be a cap cut next spring. He's too expensive for as little as he sees the field.
barrett
09-14-2017, 08:54 AM
Think of it this way - what other way could Cushing be healthy enough to play in our late-season games? By December, he's almost always tearing a tendon or extending a ligament. This is one guy I hope/suspect will be a cap cut next spring. He's too expensive for as little as he sees the field.
This gives him 6 weeks of in season steroids before he cycles off to be clean for testing when he comes back.
nunusguy
09-14-2017, 09:24 AM
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Sunday viewing in the Houston area:
CBS (early) = New England @ New Orleans, Jim Nantz, Tony Romo
CBS (late) = Philadelphia @ Kansas City, Kevin Burkhardt, Charles Davis
FOX (late) = Dallas @ Denver, Joe Buck, Troy Aikman
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Other prime time:
SNF = Green Bay @ Atlanta (NBC)
MNF = Detroit @ NY Giants (ESPN)
Arky I think the Philly @ KC game will be the early Fox offering.
Not sure why CBS didn't give us here in Houston (which I'd like to see) the Tennessee @ Jags but guess they are still catering to the local NOLA crowd.
Arky I think the Philly @ KC game will be the early Fox offering.
Not sure why CBS didn't give us here in Houston (which I'd like to see) the Tennessee @ Jags but guess they are still catering to the local NOLA crowd.
Yep, you are correct. I misread. Nice to know someone reads my content.... ;)
Corrected:
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Sunday viewing in the Houston area:
CBS (early) = New England @ New Orleans, Jim Nantz, Tony Romo
FOX (early) = Philadelphia @ Kansas City, Kevin Burkhardt, Charles Davis
FOX (late) = Dallas @ Denver, Joe Buck, Troy Aikman
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Texans receiving. Touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
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L Miller up the gut for 4.
Pass to Hop on the sideline goes inc. 3rd and 6 coming up.
Owch, pass to B Miller down the sideline goes inc. Texans to punt.
A Jones brings the punt back to Bengal 46. Bengal's ball.
Hill gets 5.
Screen to Green goes for a few yards but flag is down.....illegal block in the back on the Bengals, -10 from the spot of the foul. Places the ball at the Bengal 42. 2nd and 14.
Short pass to Bernard goes for 6.
Dalton gets sacked.....but flag is down....hands to the face on the Bengals is declined. Bengals to punt.
Flags presnap....false start Bengals, -5.
Punt goes out of bounds at the Texan 3 yard line. Texan's ball.
12:00 left in the 1st qtr.
L Miller goes for no gain. Flag is down.....illegal formation on the Texans is declined.
On 2nd and 10, short pass to Hop gets about 5. 3rd and 5 coming up.
L Miller gets 3 sweeping right. Texans have to punt.
A Jones brings the punt back to about the Bengal 45. Bengal's ball.
10:07 left in the 1st qtr.
Mixon gets 2 but flags are down. Clowney off sides makes it 1st and 5.
Dalton pressured by Watt, throws it away, inc. 2nd and 5 coming up.
Mixon sweeps left for 2. 3rd and 3 coming up.
Pass to Bernard is caught and Cunningham stops him short of the 1st down. Bengals to punt.
Irvin fair catches at the Texan 15. Texan's ball.
8:15 left in the 1st qtr.
No first downs by anyone, so far.
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Pass to B Miller along the side line gets 7.
Foreman goes left and gets the first down and more. Gain of 9.
Good push by the OL (!?). Foreman for 5.
Man, Watson's pass nearly INT'ed but inc. 3rd and 5 coming up.
Wow, big sack on Watson. Loss of about 14. Texans will have to punt.
Punt is brought back all the way to the Texan 39. Bengal's ball.
Pass to Bernard gets a few yards but flag on the Bengals for illegal formation, -5. 1st and 15 coming up.
Whoa!!! End around to Ross goes for a nice gain but the ball pops loose and Clowney catches it on the run and brings it all the way back to the Bengal 20! Texan's ball.
chuck
09-14-2017, 07:58 PM
The Texans are using seven OL and the Bengals are rushing four. Guess what's happening.
How Miller ever sees the field I have no idea.
Foreman gets 5 tough yards. Good run.
Foreman sweep right and gets to the 6 yard line. 1st and goal.
False start Baylis, -5. 1st and goal from the 11.
Foreman gets 2 up the gut. 2nd and goal from the 9 coming up.
Foreman just gets 1 sweeping left. 3rd and goal from the 8.
Watson nearly sacked manages to get the ball out but inc. Texans to go for the FG.
Fairbairn's 26-yarder is good.
Texans 3, Bengals 0
1:28 left in the 1st qtr.
chuck
09-14-2017, 08:05 PM
This OL makes 2002 look like the 1984 Redskins. At least all of those guys were legitimate NFL players.
RS has totally mismanaged the Duane Brown situation obviously, but that's not nearly the worst of it.
Keith
09-14-2017, 08:07 PM
D'Onta Foreman is taking snaps away from Lamar Miller. I like this trend.
OL is still a big problem. More ineffective OL in place of TE doesn't seem to be the answer.
The ensuing kickoff is brought back to the Bengal 36. Bengal's ball.
Dalton's deep pass is caught among 3 Texans for a big gain. 50 yards.
Pass to Lafell gets 2. 2nd and 8 coming up at the 12 yard line.
End of the 1st qtr.
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Bernard caught in the backfield for a loss of 5.
McKinney sacks Dalton! Bengals going for the FG.
Bullock's 39-yarder is good.
Texans 3, Bengals 3
13:44 left in the half.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
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Rollout by Watson, short pass to B Miller gets 2.
L Miller for 1.
On 3rd and 7, checkdown to L Miller gets the 1st down at the Texan 40.
L Miller sweeps left for 1 or no gain.
Quick pass to Hop is broken up, inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Watson pressured, runs but gets caught for a sack. Texans have to punt.
Bengals bring the punt back to their 13 yard line or so... Bengal's ball.
10:20 left in the half.
chuck
09-14-2017, 08:18 PM
D'Onta Foreman is taking snaps away from Lamar Miller.
Womp womp woooooomp.
BOB is such a moron. He and Ricky are a fabulous couple.
Mixon for 3.
Mixon sweeps left for about 3. 3rd and 4 coming up.
Pass to Green gets 13 and the 1st down.
Bernard for 3.
Bernard for 5. 3rd and 2 coming up.
Bernard stopped short of the 1st down. Bengals to punt.
Punt is brought back by Irvin to the Texan 20. Texan's ball.
7:17 left in the half.
L Miller for 6.
L Miller for 3. 3rd and 1 coming up.
And L Miller can't get 1 yard. Texans to punt.
Lechler's punt is fair caught at the Bengal 20. Bengal's ball.
5:16 left in the half.
chuck
09-14-2017, 08:28 PM
Goddamn it I hate fullback sets. And the team just reupped this mofo.
Full disclosure: I love fullback sets if there is a real chance you'll throw out of them. Apparently that's just not in the good book of the Texans, the BOBle.
Mixon gets 7.
Dalton's pass sails inc. 3rd and 3 coming up.
Dalton's pass too long for LaFell. Texan's got lucky. Bengals to punt.
Punt rolls all the way to the Texan 12 but a flag is down.....holding on the Texans, ½ the distance to the goal. Places the ball at the Texan 6.
4:30 left in the half.
Watson drops back and then scrambles for 4.
Foreman gets 1 up the gut. 3rd and 5 coming up.
Pass to Irvin over the middle gets the 1st down at the Texan 18. Lewis challenges that it wasn't a catch..... Play stands, 1st down.
Foreman scrums for 5.
2 minute warning.
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On 2nd and 5, pass to L Miller gets the 1st down at the Texan 31.
Pass to Hop goes into Bengal territory. Flag is down.... ref says, "no flag". Ball at the Bengal 44.
Watson gets sacked by Atkins. Loss of 11.
Checkdown to L Miller gets some of it back. Brings up 3rd and 15.
Woooooooo, Watson shakes a leg all the way into the end zone! Touchdown Texans! Nice downfield blocking!
Texans 10, Bengal 3
50 seconds left in the half.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Bengal's ball at their 25.
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Dalton's pass to Erickson gets 5.
Pass to Eifert gets a gain of 22. JJo shaken up on the tackle. 24 seconds left in the half.
Pass to Erickson goes all the way to the Texan 11. 16 seconds left in the half.
Dalton pressured, chunks it away, inc. 12 seconds left in the half.
Dalton pressured again, throws it away again, inc. 6 seconds left. Bengals going for the FG.
Bullock's 29-yarder is good.
Texans 10, Bengals 6
2 seconds left in the half.
The ensuing kickoff is pooched, Irvin brings it back for a modest return. Time runs out.
Halftime:
Texans 10, Bengals 6
chuck
09-14-2017, 08:54 PM
Arky has it exactly right. Watson's run was an incredible individual effort but there was a lot of effective blocking downfield.
Just like BOB drew it up.
chuck
09-14-2017, 08:55 PM
Buford has Thursday night softball so I guess he's going to watch this later on VHS.
2nd half kickoff is a touchback. Bengal's ball at their 25.
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Dalton pressured, scrambles for 3.
Hill goes off right tackle for 6. 3rd and 1 coming up.
Dalton keeps for 2 and the 1st down.
Checkdown to Hill gets about 2.
Hill tries to sweep left but KJ breaks it up for a loss. 3rd and 9 coming up.
Pass to Erickson along the side line gets the 1st down at the Texan 49.
Screen to Eifert goes for 5. 2nd and 5 coming up.
Bernard goes up the middle for 5 or 6 and the 1st down.
Pass to Hill gets 10 and a 1st down at the Texan 27.
Pass to Green gets 3.
Pass to Bernard is dropped, inc. 3rd and 7 coming up.
False start on Cunningham, 5 yards. Makes it 3rd and 2 coming up.
Hill gets stopped short! Bengals will go for it on 4th and 2.
Hill goes over the top for the 1st down.
Hill for 4. 2nd and 6 coming up.
Pass to Eifert in the end zone is good but the it looks as though he stepped out beforehand..... Illegal touch, loss of down. Makes it 3rd and 6 coming up.
Dalton's pass in the end zone off the mark, inc. Bengals to go for the FG.
Bullock's 30-yarder is good.
Texans 10, Bengals 9
6:26 left in the 3rd qtr.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
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Delay to L Miller goes for 8.
L Miller gets 2 and the 1st down.
Watson can't find a receiver and scrambles for 2.
Pass to Hop gets about 6. 3rd and 2 coming up.
Hop draws the PI on a quick pass.... spot foul, 1st down at the Texan 48.
L Miller gets stonewalled. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Irvin off his hands, inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Goodness, pass to Hop gets broken up, inc. Texans to punt.
Bengals fair catch the punt at their 11 yard line. Bengal's ball.
3:02 left in the 3rd qtr.
Mixon goes for 6 up the middle.
Dalton's pass is deflected and goes inc. 3rd and 4 coming up.
Nice catch by Eifert for the 1st down at the Bengal 32.
Cunningham, nice play on the misdirection. 2nd and 8 coming up.
Quick pass to LaFell gets 5. 3rd and 3 coming up. K Johnson injured on the play. Injury timeout...
Dalton's pass is broken up, inc. Bengals have to punt.
Irvin fields the punt and gets tripped up immediately. Texan's ball at their 16.
32 seconds left in the 3rd qtr.
Watson rolls out and hits Irvin for 8.
End of the 3rd qtr.
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Foreman gets 1. 3rd and 1 coming up.
Foreman gets snuffed for no gain or a loss of 1. Texans have to punt.
Punt is fair caught at the Bengal 24. Bengal's ball.
13:40 left in the game.
Mixon goes left for 7.
Mixon goes right for 4, 1st down.
Mixon caught for loss of 1. 2nd and 11 coming up.
Short pass to Mixon gets 6. 3rd and 5 coming up.
Pass to LaFell off the mark, inc. Bengals to punt.
Irvin brings the punt back for short gain but holding on Peters subtracts ½ the distance to the goal line. Places the ball at the Texan 8. Texan's ball.
11:15 left in the game.
Watson fakes the handoff and scrambles to the sideline for a gain of 1.
Pass to Hop gets 8. Brings up 3rd and 1. A Bengal (A Jones) hurt on the play..... Injury timeout.
(Really need a 1st down here)...
On 3rd and 1, Foreman gets stopped. Late flag comes in....personal foul on B Miller. Texans to punt.
Punt is brought back to the Bengal 47. Bengal's ball.
10:05 left in the game.
Deep pass to Green too long, inc. Brings up 2nd and 10.
Mixon sweeps left for 5. 3rd and 5 coming up.
Bengals nearly run out of clock but call a timeout....
Dalton sacked by McKinney! Bengals have to punt.
Irvin fair catches the punt at the Texan 10. Texan's ball.
8:20 left.
Nice catch by Hop for 11 and a 1st down.
Umph, pass to Hop should've been caught but inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Irvin is good for the 1st down but holding on the Texans brings it back, -10 yards. 2nd and 20 coming up.
Deep pass attempt to Hop draws the PI. Auto 1st down. Ball placed at the Texan 25.
L Miller for 2.
Watson pressured, throws inc. at the sideline. 3rd and 8 coming up.
Pass to Hop gets 10 and the 1st down.
L Miller for 2.
L Miller gets loose for 20! Nice run! (finally!)
Pass to Hop gets 9. 2nd and 1 coming up.
Foreman goes left side for 4 and the 1st down. About 4+ minutes left in the game.
Nice pass and catch but Hop pushed off for the PI. Makes it 1st and 20.
Quick pass to Irvin gets 2. 2nd and 18 coming up.
L Miller for about 2.
On 3rd and 16, Watson scrambles for 11. Texans to go for the FG.
Fairbairn's 42-yarder is good!
Texans 13, Bengals 9
1:56 left in the game (2 minute warning).
The ensuing kickoff is brought back to the Bengal 31. Bengal's ball.
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Pass to LaFell gets 12.
Pass over the middle is broken up by Pleasant, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Erickson gets 6.
Dalton pressured, throws it away, inc. 4th and 4 coming up. Bengals going for it.
Flags presnap, offsides Bengals, -5. Makes it 4th and 9.
Pass is too tall for Erickson, inc! Texans take over on downs!
1:08 left in the game.
False start on Davenport, -5. 1st and 15 coming up.
L Miller for 6. Bengals use a timeout (#2). 1:02 left in the game.
L Miller goes for 5. Bengals use their last timeout. 57 seconds left.
On 3rd and 4, L Miller loses a yard or two...... Texans letting the clock run before they punt.....Texans use a timeout with 12 seconds left.
Punt is returned to the Bengal 20. 2 seconds left in the game.
Bengals do the lateral thing until JJ decides to end the game!
Final score:
Texans 13, Bengals 9
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Well, OK. 1-1 is much better than 0-2.
chuck
09-14-2017, 10:35 PM
Good win. Win one of these next ones that we're not supposed to and who knows.
nunusguy
09-14-2017, 10:47 PM
Yea this Watson is a keeper, he sure didn't come cheep, but maybe he's finally the guy we've been looking for.
After that game last Sunday 500 doesn't look bad at all right now, we got new life tonight.
barrett
09-14-2017, 10:55 PM
Good win. Win one of these next ones that we're not supposed to and who knows.
You had to love Prosch in the 4th quarter when they kept the ball for 5 minutes and flipped the field and he made the Cincy LB corp quit.
Overall a gutsy and marginally effective effort from Watson. And marginally effective on a short week is enough to make you wonder how Tom Savage ever came out of training camp as the QB. Or why it took us 4 years to draft a guy with actual talent at QB.
Before the season I thought we'd have to win a lot of 12-7 games to be a winning team. I guess I undersold our offense since we got to 13.
Let's go beat NE.
chuck
09-14-2017, 11:34 PM
You had to love Prosch in the 4th quarter when they kept the ball for 5 minutes and flipped the field and he made the Cincy LB corp quit.
I DID love that, and I loved the split back formation. I'm not sure why it took seven ineffectual quarters to hit upon that esoteric strategy but there you go.
Why, they ran AND passed out of that formation! Imagine! Marvin Lewis must have been totally flummoxed!
I'll tell you another thing I liked, and that's the fact that JJo and Kevin Johnson were both out on the Bengals' last drive and it didn't look any different from what we saw in the, say, first quarter. If anything the piecemeal secondary they put together was the best one I've seen in like 18 months. I don't know who the hell those people were but they stood tf up.
chuck
09-15-2017, 12:38 AM
Another thing I love - the team has a number of TE tryouts scheduled for some time in mid-October. Good work, boys, don't rush into anything.
The decision to keep Fairbairn was, so far at least, plainly the correct choice. The only thing that would be better is if he were left footed so his kickoffs would spin differently.
chuck
09-15-2017, 01:19 AM
One last thing for today - as I've said and as many of you have observed, the Pats are eminently beatable. The Texans are not a good team, but I'm not sure the Pats are a good team either. I will be fascinated to see their game Sunday.
A great defense and a competent offense will beat the Patriots. It certainly doesn't appear that we have either, but you never know. Winning this game and then having a ton of time to regroup is huge. Both sides of the ball took some small steps today, small but significant.
barrett
09-15-2017, 07:09 AM
I DID love that, and I loved the split back formation. I'm not sure why it took seven ineffectual quarters to hit upon that esoteric strategy but there you go.
Why, they ran AND passed out of that formation! Imagine! Marvin Lewis must have been totally flummoxed!
I'll tell you another thing I liked, and that's the fact that JJo and Kevin Johnson were both out on the Bengals' last drive and it didn't look any different from what we saw in the, say, first quarter. If anything the piecemeal secondary they put together was the best one I've seen in like 18 months. I don't know who the hell those people were but they stood tf up.
I'd prefer either Joseph or Johnson is healthy if it means Kareem Jackson is blowing guys up around the LOS instead of picking up holding calls downfield. He should be our starting safety.
HPF Bob
09-15-2017, 10:52 AM
I work Thursday nights plus recapping Astros games so I DVR'd the Texans and tried to avoid the final score.
Watson turned one play into a touchdown that was the deciding factor. BTW, no way Tom Savage, bless his 4th-round white boy heart, is ever going to make that touchdown run, much less escape the pocket. That's why Watson, for all his rookie flaws, has to be our starter.
If O'Brien ever writes a book, the title will be "How To Win a ****************ing Division in The ******** NFL Without a ****************ing Quarterback or a ******** Offensive Line." - Foreward by Romeo Crennel.
It was nice to see Watt and Clowney both making plays in the same game although WTF is Clowney doing in pass coverage half the night? That isn't why we're paying him the equivalent of the Clinton Foundation bankroll to cover backs in the flat.
Anyway, good win. Enjoyed the Color Rush uniforms that made us look like Texas Tech.
nunusguy
09-15-2017, 11:53 AM
It was nice to see Watt and Clowney both making plays in the same game although WTF is Clowney doing in pass coverage half the night? That isn't why we're paying him the equivalent of the Clinton Foundation bankroll to cover backs in the flat.
Last years defensive coordinator went back and forth between having Clowney standing up & his hand in the dirt and finally realized what we all knew was that he's a DE not a LB and then his season really took off.
Maybe Vrabel has to go thru the same learning curve this year or maybe it's the price they think has to be paid with JJ Watt back in the lineup.
Speaking of linebackers covering receivers it looks like in Zack Cunningham we've finally got the first good at that since Connor Barwin was with the Texans.
Early line (http://www.madduxsports.com/nfl-odds.php) for Texans vs Patriots started off New England -12 and is now up to New England -14 in some places.....
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