View Full Version : Official Texans vs. Chargers Game Thread, 11/27/2016
It's Week 12 and the 4-6 San Diego Chargers are coming to NRG stadium to take on the 6-4 Texans Sunday at noon. The Chargers are coming off their bye week and should be somewhat rested/healed up. QB Philip Rivers is having a another good year throwing for 2,886 yards at a 62.1% completion rate with 20 TDs and 11 INTs and a 92.0 rating although 7 of his INTs have occured in the last three games. RB Melvin Gordon (838 yards rushing, 346 receiving) takes care of just about all the running back duties and is on a pace for 400 touches. The Chargers recently acquired RB Ronnie Hillman for some relief. Rivers has a plethora of targets in the passing game: WR's Tyrel Williams, Travis Benjamin, Dontrelle Inman; TE's Hunter Henry, Anotonio Gates and the aforementioned Gordon coming out of the backfield. The San Diego defense ranks 21st allowing 361.9 yds/gm and 28th in pts/game allowing 27.8. The Texans should be able to move the ball and put up some points....
The Texans are coming off 27-20 loss to the Raiders on MNF and should be motivated to get back on a winning track....
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TV = CBS (channel 11 local), noon CST, Sunday, 11/27/2016
Announcers (http://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2016&wk=12) = Kevin Harlan, Rich Gannon
The line (http://www.madduxsports.com/nfl-odds.php) = San Diego by 2 to pickem
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Bye weeks are almost completed except for two teams - Cleveland and Tennessee. Oddly, their byes occur next week in Week 13. 12 in a row has gotta be tough......
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Other Sunday viewing in the Houston area:
CBS (late) = Carolina @ Oakland, Jim Nantz, Phil Simms
FOX (late) = Seattle @ Tampa Bay, Kenny Albert, Daryl Johnston
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Thanksgiving Early: Minnesota @ Detroit (CBS)
Thanksgiving Late: Washington @ Dallas (FOX)
Thanksgiving Night: Pittsburgh @ Indianapolis (NBC)
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Other prime time:
SNF = Kansas City @ Denver (NBC)
MNF = Green Bay @ Philadelphia (ESPN)
nunusguy
11-25-2016, 05:52 PM
So we are a dog at home vs the last place AFC West Chargers & we were basically the same vs the Jags ?
Sounds like the Texans have become the Rodney Dangerfield of the NFL.
All blue unis today. Chargers now favored by 2.5 to 3.
Chargers won the toss and will receive.
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Kickoff is a touchback. Charger's ball at their 25.
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Gordon for 2.
Slant to Williams goes for 4. 3rd and 4 coming up.
Screen to Gordon only gets 1. Chargers will have to punt.
Fuller brings the punt back to the Texan 17 or 18. Texan's ball.
L Miller for about 6.
Nice, juggling catch by Hop goes to the Texan 43, 1st down.
L Miller for 2.
Pass to Fido a little high and off his hands, inc. 3rd and 8 coming up.
Flags presnap. False start on Clark, -5. 3rd and 13 coming up.
Screen to Fuller gets 7. Texans have to punt.
Lechler's punt goes into the end zone, touchback. Charger's ball at their 20.
Rivers' pass is INT'ed by Bouye but they also get him for a push off. Result = 1st down Chargers at the 25.
Gordon goes for 13.
Quick pass to Williams goes for 14.
Gordon caught by Merci for a loss of 2. 2nd and 12 coming up from midfield.
Rivers pressured, flips it to Gordon for a gain of 3.
On 3rd and 9, pass to Williams gets 5. Charger's will have to punt.
Fuller fair catches at the Texan 5 yard line. Texan's ball.
6:29 left in the 1st qtr.
Pass to Fido gets 8.
L Miller goes right side for 4 and the 1st down.
Pass to Hop over the middle is broken up, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
L Miller for maybe 1. 3rd and 9 coming up.
Oz's pass goes inc because of offsides on the Chargers. Brings up 3rd and 4.
Pass to L Miller gets 3. Texans to punt.
Lechler's punt is fair caught at the Charger 21. Charger's ball.
3:44 left in the 1st qtr.
Big Texas
11-27-2016, 12:25 PM
Looks like more of the same.
Defense gets multiple stops while the offense does nothing.
Bears 7, Titans 0
Jags 7, Bills 0
Rams 7, Saints 0
Ravens 10, Bengals 0
Flags presnap. Clowney in the neutral zone. Makes it 1st and 5.
Pass to Henry off the mark, inc but a flag is down....illegal hands to the face on Bouye, 5 yards and an auto 1st down.
Farrow loses 3 yards. 2nd and 13 coming up.
Pass to Inman goes for 5. Brings up 3rd and 8.
McKinney with the sack! Loss of 7! Chargers will have to punt.
Fuller brings the punt back to the Texan 28, fumbles and Nelson (Texans) recovers it. Texan's ball.
1:27 left in the 1st qtr.
chuck
11-27-2016, 12:38 PM
How many second and ten plays were there in the first quarter? Three? All runs, of course. Let's keep track of how many pile up over the course of the game.
Hunt goes left side for 16.
Oz can't find a receiver on the rollout and throws it away, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Hunt for 3. 3rd and 7 coming up.
End of the 1st qtr.
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On 3rd and 7, pass to Anderson gets 8 and the 1st down.
L Miller for 2.
L Miller for about 4. Brings up 3rd and 4. Ball at the Charger 39.
Chargers use a timeout (#1). 13:05 left in the half.
Deep pass to Fuller goes all the way to the 5 yard line! 33 yards. Offsides defense is declined. 1st and goal.
L Miller gets 1.
Oz's pass to Hop draws the PI on the Chargers. 1st and goal at the 2.
L Miller to the 1/2 yard line. 2nd and goal coming up.
Oz jumps up and over for the TD!
Texans 7, Chargers 0
11:11 left in the half.
The ensuing kickoff is brought back to the Charger 26. Charger's ball.
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Gordon for no gain but flag on the Texans for lining up in the neutral zone. Makes it 1st and 5 coming up.
Gordon goes left for about 20 but flags all over the place..... Offsetting penalties, replay the down (1st and 5).
Pass to Henry is dropped. Makes it 2nd and 5 coming up.
Pass to Inman goes inc but flag is down.....hands to the face on Bouye makes it a 1st down at the Charger 36.
Pass to Williams gets 4.
Gordon gets 5. 3rd and 1 coming up.
Gordon gets the 1 and the 1st down. Ball at the Charger 46.
Dumpoff to Williams gets 2.
Deep pass to a wide open Inman goes for the 52 yard TD.
Texans 7, Chargers 7
6:44 left in the half.
Rivers: 9/10, 89 yards, 1 TD, 137.1 rating.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
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Pass to Fuller along the sideline gets 13.
L Miller for 7.
L Miller for 3 and the 1st down. Ball near midfield. About 5 minutes left in the half.
Oz pressured, throws it towards the sideline and is INT'ed by the Chargers. Charger's ball at their 37.
Pass to Inman goes for 15.
Pass to Benjamin goes for 8. 2nd and 2 coming up.
Gordon goes left for 1. 3rd and 1 coming up.
Gordon busts loose for 19. Ball at the Texan 20, 1st down.
2 minute warning.
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Pass to Williams in the end zone goes for the TD.
Chargers 14, Texans 7
1:54 left in the half.
Rivers: 12/13, 133 yards, 2 TDs, 148.9 rating.
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The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
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Pass to B Miller gets 7 but holding on Clark backs it up. Makes it 1st and 20.
Oz is sacked. Loss of 7. 2nd and 27 coming up.
Delay to Grimes gets 9. Chargers use their last timeout with 1:34 left in the half. 3rd and 18 coming up.
Hand off to Grimes gets 5. Texans will have to punt.
Texans use clock then call a timeout. 48 seconds left in the half.
Illegal receiver downfield on the punt. Re-punt.
Chargers bring the punt back to their 49. Charger's ball. 20 seconds left in the half.
Pass to Williams goes to the Texan 37.
Rivers pass sails out of bounds, inc. 9 seconds left.
Ditto, inc pass out of bounds. 4 seconds left. Chargers to go for the FG.
Lambo's 54-yard is off to the left no good.
Halftime.
Chargers 14, Texans 7
Texans 8 penalties for 45 yards. Chargers 2 for 8 yards.
Bad game for Bouye and Clowney in that dept.....
chuck
11-27-2016, 01:37 PM
BOB on the radio at halftime crying about the booing like a little bitch.
The 2nd half kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
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L Miller up the gut for none.
L Miller caught for loss of 2. 3rd and 12 coming up.
Slant to Hopkins goes for 16, 1st down.
Pass to Hop goes to midfield, 1st down.
Slant to Hop is broken up, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
L Miller for 2. 3rd and 8 coming up.
Pass to Griffin goes for 2. Texans will have to punt.
Chargers fair catch the punt at their 8 yard line. Charger's ball.
11:02 left in the 3rd qtr.
Big Texas
11-27-2016, 01:45 PM
I wonder if DHOP is injured...I get it you're getting double teamed. But so is every other top receiver in the league. How does AJ Green, Julio Jones, and OBJ still get their numbers each week. I would hate to say "maybe DHOP is not as good as we thought". There is literally no separation...
Gordon caught for a loss of 3. 2nd and 13 coming up.
Pass over the middle to Henry gets 8. 3rd and 5 coming up.
Rivers hits Williams over the middle for 6 and the 1st down.
Gordon for 2 or 3. Ball at the Charger 21.
Deep pass to Benjamin sails inc. Brings up 3rd and 7.
Pass to Williams down the sideline is ruled inc, out of bounds. Chargers will have to punt.
Fuller brings the punt back to the 37 yard line or so and draws an unnecessary roughness penalty. Texans will have the ball at the Charger 48.
L Miller up the gut for no gain.
Pass to Hop off his hands inc, but holding on the Chargers = 5 yards and an auto 1st down. Ball at the Charger 43.
L Miller goes left side for nice gainer, fumbles at the end but the ref rules him down. 20 yards. Chargers throw the red flag that he wasn't down, yet. It looks like they are going to win and have possession....
Charger's ball at their 21.
Gordon for a loss of 1.
Pass to Williams gets 3 but flag is down....holding on the Chargers, -10. Makes it 2nd and 21 coming up.
Pass to Inman gets 12. 3rd and 9 coming up.
Rivers' pass is deflected and picked by Demps! Texan's ball!
6:05 left in the 3rd qtr.
Texan's ball at the Charger 38.
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Pass to Fuller gets 7.
L Miller caught in the backfield for a loss of 5. 3rd and 8 coming up.
Pass to Hop goes for 7.5 yards.....spot give the Texans a 1st down.
L Miller goes left side for 11, 1st down at the Charger 17.
Oz pressured, gets it away to L Miller for a gain of 11. 1st and goal at the 6.
L Miller loses 3. 2nd and goal from the 9 coming up.
Hand off to B Miller gets 1. 3rd and goal coming up.
End of the 3rd qtr.
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On 3rd and goal, pass to Fido goes to the 2 yard line..... Texans to go for the FG.
Novak's 19-yarder is good.
Chargers 14, Texans 10
14:09 left in the game.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Charger's ball at their 25.
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Dumpoff to Gordon gets 5.
Gordon goes for 9, 1st down.
Gordon goes left for 2 but flags are down.....holding on the Chargers, -10. Makes it 1st and 20.
Dumpoff to Gordon gets 10. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Williams goes inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Inman gets 11 and the 1st down.
Rivers pressured, gets it out to Inman for big gainer, flag at the end for roughness on KJ. Places the ball at the Texan 12 1/2 yard line.
Pass to Henry goes for the TD.
Chargers 21, Texan 10
9:52 left in the game.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
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Pass to Fido gets 16.
Oz's pass way over the head of Fido and INT'ed. Chargers bring it back to the Texan 45 yard line or so... Celebration penalty on the Chargers places the ball at the Charger 44. Charger's ball.
chuck
11-27-2016, 02:36 PM
I used to think that Bortles was the worst starting quarterback in the league but I don't think I can make that case anymore.
Gordon for 3.
Pass to Williams a little off the mark and inc. Williams shaken up on the play. Brings up 3rd and 7. 8:17 left in the game.
Pass to Butler gets 6. 4th and 1....
Chargers try to draw the Texans offsides and take the delay of game penalty. Chargers to punt.
Punt goes into the end zone. Texan's ball at their 20.
7:06 left in the game.
L Miller up the gut for 1.
Pass to Fido gets 12, 1st down.
Pass to B Miller gets 12, 1st down.
Oz can't find a receiver and throws it away, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Hop gets 16, 1st down. Ball at the Charger 40.
Deep pass to Hop out of bounds, uncatchable. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Oz's pass in the flat off the mark, inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Oz pressured, gets tripped up on the scramble while gaining a yard. 4th and 9 coming up. Texans going for it....
Chargers use a timeout (#1).
On 4th and 9, Oz throws toward B Miller but ot goes inc. Chargers take over on downs. 4:25 left in the game.
Gordon for 7.
Gordon scrums for about 8 more, 1st down. 3:31 left in the game.
Gordon for 4. Texan's use a timeout (#2).
Gordon scrums for 5. 3rd and 1 coming up. Texans use their last timeout.
Chargers use a timeout.
Flags presnap. False start Chargers, -5. Makes it 3rd and 6 coming up.
Gordon loses 3. Chargers will have to punt.
Chargers take the delay of game penalty to burn clock.
Punt goes out of bounds at the Texan 12 1/2 yard line. Texan's ball with 2:17 left in the game, no timeouts.
popanot
11-27-2016, 02:57 PM
Yay we get to see Brock one more time this game!! Woohoo!! Maybe he won't look like a steaming pile of �� this meaningless drive.
chuck
11-27-2016, 02:58 PM
I wonder if not winning the division will be enough to get BOB fired.
Pass to Griffin gets 7.
2 minute warning.
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Deep pass to Fuller is broken up, inc.
On 3rd and 3, Oz is pressured and throws inc.
On 4th and 3, Oz scrambles to the 40 yard line, gain of 20.
Pass to Griffin gets 15.
Pass to L Miller gets 5.
Pass to Griffin gets 12, 1st down.
Oz spikes it with 18 seconds left. Texans to try the long FG.
Novak's 45-yarder is good.
Chargers 21, Texans 13
14 seconds left in the game.
Texans go for the onside kick and recover! 12 seconds left...
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Oz's hail Mary into the end zone is broken up, inc. 3 seconds left.
Oz's 2nd hail Mary is INT'ed in the end zone.
Time has expired.
Final score:
Chargers 21, Texans 13
Turn the ball over, lose the game.
popanot
11-27-2016, 03:09 PM
Yay we get to see Brock one more time this game!! Woohoo!! Maybe he won't look like a steaming pile of �� this meaningless drive.Nope. Still a hot steaming pile of �� (imagination emoji).
popanot
11-27-2016, 03:14 PM
I wonder if not winning the division will be enough to get BOB fired.I'm hoping OB bolts to Notre Dame at this point. He's obviously had to dumb down this offense for this POS QB, but he's the one who sticks with him and obviously doesn't have the nads to make a change. A lot of his in-game coaching decisions have been questionable as well. Doubt it could get any worse with a HC and QB change. This team is a complete bore.
nunusguy
11-27-2016, 03:26 PM
Aw crap, that was a real stinker.
Hey but one thing - gotta give it up for Novak & crew because that was one helluva onside kick !
chuck
11-27-2016, 03:29 PM
I'm hoping OB bolts to Notre Dame at this point. He's obviously had to dumb down this offense for this POS QB, but he's the one who sticks with him and obviously doesn't have the nads to make a change. A lot of his in-game coaching decisions have been questionable as well. Doubt it could get any worse with a HC and QB change. This team is a complete bore.
Starting anyone other than BO would directly defy the owner's wishes.
Of course starting BO is a losing proposition.
This is kind of interesting..... the announcers brought up something about the 1st down play calling and it made me look back through the thread. I pulled all the 1st down plays at the start of a drive..
Start of drives, play called on 1st down:
1. L Miller for 6.
2. Pass to Fido gets 8.
3. Hunt goes left side for 16.
4. Pass to Fuller along the sideline gets 13.
5. Pass to B Miller gets 7 but holding on Clark backs it up.
6. L Miller up the gut for none.
7. L Miller up the gut for no gain.
8. Pass to Fuller gets 7.
9. Pass to Fido gets 16.
10. L Miller up the gut for 1.
11. Pass to Griffin gets 7.
12. (Incomplete hail Mary pass)
So, that's 5 rushes and 7 passes. All of the passes were completed for good 1st down yardage except for the hail Mary attempt so, 6/7 were completed. L Miller got 7 total yards on 4 attempts rushing. Hunt had 16 yards on his one rushing attempt.
Conclusion: Don't run L Miller on 1st down because they know it's coming....
Early line (http://www.madduxsports.com/nfl-odds.php) has the Packers as a 4.5 pt favorite over the Texans next Sunday...
HPF Bob
11-28-2016, 08:42 AM
We'll see how badly the Packers suck tonight and perhaps check the weather reports before determining the line. Osweiler, fwiw, is a Montana kid that seemed unbothered by cold weather while he was in Denver.
popanot
11-28-2016, 09:28 AM
Starting anyone other than BO would directly defy the owner's wishes.I'm half thinking at this point that OB had very little input into signing Osweiler and is now just doing a big FU to McNut/Smith by leaving him in there. Who the hell knows with this chump franchise.
nunusguy
11-28-2016, 11:39 AM
I'm half thinking at this point that OB had very little input into signing Osweiler and is now just doing a big FU to McNut/Smith by leaving him in there. Who the hell knows with this chump franchise.
Coming off of O'Briens second season right after winning the AFC South it seems hard to imagine he wouldn't have atleast veto power about signing a QB he didn't like ?
chuck
11-28-2016, 11:58 AM
I'm half thinking at this point that OB had very little input into signing Osweiler and is now just doing a big FU to McNut/Smith by leaving him in there. Who the hell knows with this chump franchise.
It is well known that the BO signing was driven by the owner and possibly Rick Smith. McNair was the force behind the signing and BOB had zero input. The owner wants BO to play. BOB is realizing that he can't play, at least not in his system. That's why there is mounting speculation that BOB will walk after this year.
Either way it's a team in complete chaos. Personally I haven't seen a Texan offense so out of whack since the Carr years. It's the exact same feeling. I watch the Texans slapdick around out there for sixty minutes and then watch another team, ANY other team, and it looks like they're playing a totally different sport.
Although it was fun to watch Lickey make stupid decision after stupid decision last night.
Spotted in another forum:
kZyat02D61I
This is kind of interesting..... the announcers brought up something about the 1st down play calling and it made me look back through the thread. I pulled all the 1st down plays at the start of a drive..
Start of drives, play called on 1st down:
1. L Miller for 6.
2. Pass to Fido gets 8.
3. Hunt goes left side for 16.
4. Pass to Fuller along the sideline gets 13.
5. Pass to B Miller gets 7 but holding on Clark backs it up.
6. L Miller up the gut for none.
7. L Miller up the gut for no gain.
8. Pass to Fuller gets 7.
9. Pass to Fido gets 16.
10. L Miller up the gut for 1.
11. Pass to Griffin gets 7.
12. (Incomplete hail Mary pass)
So, that's 5 rushes and 7 passes. All of the passes were completed for good 1st down yardage except for the hail Mary attempt so, 6/7 were completed. L Miller got 7 total yards on 4 attempts rushing. Hunt had 16 yards on his one rushing attempt.
Conclusion: Don't run L Miller on 1st down because they know it's coming....
OK, just out of curiosity, I went through all the first down plays. Sometimes there was a penalty on the Texans that backed the ball up but technically, it was still first down, i.e. 1st and 20. Listed below are all the first down plays that occurred during the drive, not the first play of the drive.
1. Oz can't find a receiver on the rollout and throws it away, inc.
2. L Miller for 2.
3. L Miller gets 1.
4. L Miller to the 1/2 yard line.
5. L Miller for 7.
6. Oz pressured, throws it towards the sideline and is INT'ed by the Chargers.
7. Oz is sacked.
8. Pass to Hop goes to midfield, 1st down.
9. L Miller goes left side for nice gainer, fumbles at the end but the ref rules him down. 20 yards.
10. L Miller goes left side for 11, 1st down at the Charger 17.
11. L Miller loses 3.
12. Oz's pass way over the head of Fido and INT'ed.
13. Pass to B Miller gets 12, 1st down.
14. Deep pass to Hop out of bounds, uncatchable.
15. Pass to Griffin gets 15.
16. Pass to L Miller gets 5.
17. Oz spikes it with 18 seconds left.
That is 7 rushes and 10 passes/attempts. The last six were all passes as the Texans were trying to catch up late in the game. Curiously, Oz threw 2 INT's on first downs.
Totals including the 1st play of the drive, all first down plays: 12 rushes, 17 passes.
Conclusion: L Miller carried the ball 11 of the 12 rushes on first down. He ran for 3 yards or less 7 times. The four other times, he was productive. The first down passes run the gamut of good to bad.
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