View Full Version : Official Texans vs. Lions Game Thread, 10/30/2016
Time marches on and the 4-3 Texans will host the 4-3 Detroit Lions Sunday in an early game on FOX. The Lions are coming off a 20-17 victory over the Redskins. The Lions have won three in a row (Philly, LA and Was.). Combined win differential of those three is just 7 pts. All seven of Detroit's games played have been decided by 7 pts. or less. QB Matthew Stafford is having a very good year - 68.1% comp, 1914 yards, 15 TDs, 4 INTs, 105.7 rating. The Lion's offense doesn't rush all that much (24th) but they are good in the passing game (12th). Stafford's favorite targets are Marvin Jones (623 yds), Golden Tate (392 yds), Anquan Boldin (272 yds), Eric Ebron (210 yds) and Theo Riddick (190 yds).
The Texans should be in rebound mode after losing to the Denver Broncos 27-9 on MNF. Head coach Bill O'Brien and QB Brock Osweiler will look to get the Texan's struggling and misfiring offense on track before the Texan's bye week.
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TV = FOX (channel 26 local), Sunday, noon CST, 10/30/2016
Announcers (http://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2016&wk=8) = Chris Myers, Ronde Barber
The line (http://www.madduxsports.com/nfl-odds.php) = Texans by 1 to 2.5 pts.
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Other Sunday viewing in the Houston area:
FOX early bird special from London = Washington vs Cincinnati (Kenny Albert, John Lynch), 8:30 am CST
FOX (late) = Green Bay @ Atlanta, Thom Brennaman, Troy Aikman
CBS (late) = San Diego @ Denver, Greg Gumbel, Trent Green
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Prime time:
TNF = Jacksonville @ Tennessee (NFLN)
SNF = Philadelphia @ Dallas (NBC)
MNF = Minnesota @ Chicago (ESPN)
Big money moves the line and big money is leaning towards the Lions, here. The spread has dropped to mostly Texans by 1 to 1.5. Not a large change but significant....
Warren
10-30-2016, 11:12 AM
Lamar Miller is active. These guys aren't:
Lions: CB Darius Slay, LB DeAndre Levy, DT Haloti Ngata, RB Dwayne Washington, DL Anthony Zettel, T Corey Robinson, TE Cole Wick
Texans: LB Brian Peters, QB Brandon Weeden, WR Keith Mumphery, S Quintin Demps, T Jeff Adams, G Oday Aboushi, DE Brandon Dunn
Texans will be kicking off.
Lions bring the kickoff back to the Texan 31. Lion's ball.
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Pass to Jones is broken up, inc, but a flag on Bouye for PI. 1st down at the 37.
Pass to Tate at the sideline too tall, inc.
Riddick rushes for 7. 3rd and 3 coming up.
Pass to Jones goes for a 1st down at the Texan 44.
Short pass to Boldin gets 4.
Sweep to Tate gets good yardage but a flag is down.... holding on the Lions backs it up. Makes it 2nd and 11.
Pass to Riddick is broken up, inc. Brings up 3rd and 11.
Dumpoff to Riddick gets 8. 4th and 3 and the Lions are going for it.....
Pass to Boldin off the mark, inc, so the Texans takeover on downs. Texan's ball at their 38.
L Miller hits the left side for 7.
L Miller for no gain. Brings up 3rd and 3.
Oz is sacked. Texans will have to punt.
Lions bring the punt back to their 28 but a flag is down.... holding on the Lions, 1/2 the distance, ball placed at the 6 yard line. Lion's ball.
Riddick goes for 6.
Pass to Tate gets the 1st down at the 19 yard line.
Riddick sweeps left for 16.
Screen to Tate goes to the Lion 49, 1st down.
Riddick rushes for 3.
Pass to Ebron goes to the Texan 35, 1st down.
Riddick for 1.
Flat pass to Ebron goes for 3. 3rd and 6 coming up.
Pass to Boldin broken up, inc. Lions to go for the FG.
FG attempt hits the upright, no good. Texans takeover on downs at their 31.
Pass to Fido goes for 5.
Dumpoff to L Miller goes inc. 3rd and 5 coming up.
Pass to Hop goes for the 1st down at the Lion 46.
L Miller for 2. About 2 minutes left in the 1st qtr.
Oz pressured, throws off the mark to Fido, inc. Brings up 3rd and 8.
Pass to Griffin goes to the Lion 20, 1st down.
L Miller caught for a loss of 3.
Blue gets the 3 yards back. 3rd and 10 coming up.
End of the 1st qtr.
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Pass to Griffin goes for the 1st down at the Lion 9 yard line. 1st and goal.
Blue for almost 2.
Blue gets to the 6 yard line. 3rd and goal from the 6 coming up.
Pass to Fido in the end zone is good for the TD!
Texans 7, Lions 0
12:56 left in the half.
The ensuing kickoff is brought back for large gain but holding on the Lions brings it back. Ball ends up at the Lion 14.
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Pass to Tate off the mark, inc.
Zenner for 2. 3rd and 8 coming up.
Stafford pressured, throws inc towards the flat. Lions will have to punt.
Ervin brings the punt back to the Texan 47. Texan's ball.
Screen to Griffin goes for a loss of 1.
Pass to Fuller in the flat goes inc. 3rd and 11 coming up.
Pass to Anderson good for 9....4th and 1 coming up. Texans going for it....
Blue gets 2, 1st down.
L Miller goes left for 2.
Pass to Fido is broken up, Fido takes a shot, flag is down.....Lions charged with hit on a defenseless receiver gives the Texans 15 yards and a 1st down at the Lion 25. 9:06 left in the half.
Pass to Hop in the end zone is caught but out of bounds so inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
L Miller for about 5. Strong hurt on the play. Injury timeout.
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On 3rd and 5, pass to Anderson gets the 1st down at the Lion 13.
Pass to Hop goes to the 1 yard line. 1st and goal. Nice catch!
L Miller punches it in!
Texans 14, Lions 0
7:04 left in the half.
Lions bring the ensuing kickoff back to their 23. Lion's ball.
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Riddick goes left side for about 10 yards.
Pass to Tate gets 2. 2nd and 8 coming up.
Deep pass to Tate goes inc but a flag is down....holding on the Lions, -10. Makes it 2nd and 18 coming up.
Flags presnap.... false start Lions, -5. Makes it 2nd and 23.
Pass to Tate gets 11. 3rd and 12 coming up.
Pass to Riddick gets 4. Lions will have to punt.
Fuller brings the punt back to the Texan 24. Texan's ball with 4:08 left in the half.
Pass to Hop is bobbled but caught for 14.
Pass to Fido goes for 15.
Blue for 1. 2nd and 9 coming up.
Deep pass to Fuller is way out of bounds, inc.
On 3rd and 9, sweep to B Miller is sniffed out for a loss of a couple. Texans will punt.
2 minute warning.
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Lions fair catch the punt at their 9 yard line. Lion's ball.
Pass to Jones is inc but they're going to get Bouye for the PI. 1st down at the 18.
Pass to Riddick bobbled and inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Wobbly pass to Ebron is dropped, inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Stafford is sacked by Clowney! Lions will have to punt.
Texans use a timeout (#1) with 1:32 left in the half.
Ervin brings the punt back to the Lion 43 yard line. Texan's ball.
Pass to Fido goes to the Lion 28, 1st down.
Pass to Fido gets 4. Texans use a timeout (#2). 45 seconds left in the half.
Pass to Fuller is dropped. 3rd and 8 coming up.
Oh jeez, Oz throws the INT. Lions have the ball at their 19. 32 seconds left.
Pass to Riddick goes for 5. 26 seconds left.
Pass to Ebron goes all the way into Texan territory. Ball at the Texan 43. Lions use a timeout.
Pass to Ebron gets 8. 13 seconds left.
Pass to Ebron gets about 4 but flag is down.....holding on the Texans (Clowney). Lions will go for the FG with 6 seconds left in the half.
Prater's 47-yarder is good.
Texans 14, Lions 3
2 seconds left in the half.
Squibby kickoff is fielded by Prosch and brought back to the Texan 40.
Halftime.
Texans 14, Lions 3
The 2nd half kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
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Rollout pass to Griffin goes for 5. Flag down....illegal formation on the Texans, -5. Makes it 1st and 15.
L Miller caught for a loss of 3.
Short pass to L Miller gets 3. Brings up 3rd and 15.
Pass to B Miller gets 13. Texans will have to punt.
Good coverage on the punt pins the Lions at their 15. Lion's ball.
Riddick for 3 but a flag is down...holding on the Texans places the ball at the 23, 1st down.
Riddick for 2.
Riddick sweeps left for 3. 3rd and 5 coming up.
Pass to Jones off his hands, inc. Lions will have to punt.
Ervin brings the punt back to the Texan 39. Texan's ball.
10:21 left in the 3rd qtr.
L Miller for 2.
Pass to L Miller at the sideline gets 4. 3rd and 4 coming up.
Grimes carries for the 1st down at midfield.
Pass to Hop is caught/fumbled, Lions recover..... refs rule a drop/inc.
Pass to Hop over the middle draws the PI. Ball placed at the Lion 40, 1st down.
Pass to Fuller goes to the Lion 17 yard line, 1st down.
Delay to L Miller loses 3.
L Miller carries for 5. Brings up 3rd and 8 at the Lion 15.
Pass to Fido in the end zone is over everybody, inc. Texans will go for the FG.
Novak's 33-yarder is good.
Texans 17, Lions 3
5:51 left in the 3rd qtr.
Lions bring the ensuing kickoff back to their 25 yard line. Lion's ball.
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Pass to Jones off the mark, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Riddick over the middle gets almost 20 and the 1st down.
Riddick goes right for 2.
Pass to Riddick gets 8 and the 1st down.... late flag .....ref says, "no flag"....
Zenner for 1.
Flare pass to Zenner gets 5. 3rd and 4 coming up.
Pass to Jones gets the 1st down at the Texan 28.
Pass to Jones broken up by Bouye, inc.
Zenner loses 1. Brings up 3rd and 11.
Pass to Ebron over the middle gets 12 and the 1st down.
Pass to Jones over the middle nearly picked by Moore but inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Ebron gets 4 or 5.
End of the 3rd qtr.
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On 3rd and 6, pass into the end zone draws the PI on Moore. Places the ball at the 1 yard line, 1st and goal.
Pass to Riddick in the end zone good for the TD.
Texans 17, Lions 10
14:50 left in the game.
The ensuing kickoff is a touchback. Texan's ball at their 25.
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Blue for 1.
Oz gets sacked. Loss of 6. Brings up 3rd and 15.
Delay to Grimes goes for 7. Texans will have to punt.
Lions bring the punt back to their 22. Lion's ball.
12:36 left in the game.
Pass to Tate goes for loss of 1.
Pass to Riddick (?) gets 2 but flag is down....block in the back on the Lions, -10. Makes it 2nd and 21 at the Lion 11 yard line.
Riddick for 3 or 4. 3rd and 18 coming up.
Stafford pressured, throws it to Riddick who comes up short of the 1st down. Lions will have to punt.
Ervin fumbles the punt out of bounds at the Texan 40. Texan's ball.
10:14 left in the game.
Ball marked at the Texan 35.
L Miller goes for 8.
L Miller for about 8 more and the 1st down. Ball at the Lion 49.
Blue powers for 10 and the 1st down.
Quick pass to Hop gets 8. Ball at the Lion 31.
Blue goes to the 12 yard line! Nice run! 1st and 10.
Blue for almost 3. 2nd and 8 coming up from the Lion 10.
Blue goes to the 1 yard line but flag on X for holding.... Makes 2nd and 18.
Pass to B Miller gets about 10. 3rd and 9 coming up.
Oz gets sacked. Texans will go for the FG.
Novak's 36-yarder is good.
Texans 20, Lions 10
4:09 left in the game.
Lions bring the kickoff back to the their 45 yard line. Lion's ball.
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Pass to Jones gets 11.
Screen to Riddick goes for big gainer. Ball at the Texan 21.
Pass to Ebron broken up by McKinney, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Stafford pressured, has to throw to quick, inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.
WR screen to Tate only gets 5. Lions to go for the FG with about 3 minutes remaining in the game.
Prater's 34-yarder is good.
Texans 20, Lions 13
2:53 left in the game.
The ensuing kickoff is onsided.... Texans get it. Texans will have the ball at the Lion 44.
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L Miller for 3. Lion use a timeout (#1).
L Miller for about 11. Lions use timeout #2. 2:42 left in the game.
L Miller for 6. Lions use their last timeout. 2:37 left in the game. 2nd and 4 coming up.
L Miller to the Lion 18 and the 1st down.
Texans kneeling it out...
Final Score:
Texans 20, Lions 13
Cya in 2 weeks....
barrett
10-30-2016, 03:07 PM
Great win. After the Lions missed the FG in the first quarter the TOP was Lions 9:06 and Texans 2:04.
The rest of the way it was Texans 31:54 and Lions 16:56. That is some serious domination that was reflected in the score and yardage during that part of the game.
Our defense ate up the short passing game. In a game they trailed all day, I don't think Stafford threw a ball 15 yards past the LOS all day. I'm glad we made him pay for it.
5-3 at the bye is great, even if we haven't looked great a single time yet. Hopefully, this is a sign of things to come, and it's hard to not see 5 wins in our 2nd half schedule.
nunusguy
10-31-2016, 07:31 AM
5-3 at the bye is great, even if we haven't looked great a single time yet. Hopefully, this is a sign of things to come, and it's hard to not see 5 wins in our 2nd half schedule.
It is a great feeling going into the bye at 5-3, with a chance to regroup and have 2 weeks to heal some wounds & injuries.
But winning 5 of the last 8 games is not to me the slam dunk you seem to see ?
HPF Bob
10-31-2016, 09:33 AM
Nunu, I agree. We still haven't had even a pulse on the road yet and 5 of the last eight will be road games.
Home and home with Jackassville looks promising. The other two home games are San Diego and Cincinnati, both teams better than their W-L records.
The remaining road games are Oakland, Green Bay, Tennessee and Indy. We have had a good history with the Raiders who, despite a 6-2 record, have won a lot of extremely tight games. That might be a key game for us as to whether we are actually improved from last year or just spinning our wheels.
HPF Bob
10-31-2016, 09:35 AM
BTW, notice how much shorter the threads are when we're winning a game? The TEs were a big factor and the bye week comes at a good time to heal up some sore players.
BTW, notice how much shorter the threads are when we're winning a game? .....
Ya, not one in-game comment during the game. First time I think that has happened. I was starting to feel rather monkish....
Strife and turmoil bring the comments. Success, not so much........
chuck
10-31-2016, 10:29 AM
BTW, notice how much shorter the threads are when we're winning a game?
Well, I deliberately refrained from posting and Big Texas must be in the hoosegow again so that's forty, maybe fifty percent of the people who reliably post in any given game thread week to week.
My only two thoughts of any consequence are a) how much longer are qbs going to continue to pick on Bouye like he's some sort of scrub and b) how much longer is Aboushi going to spend the games inactive.
barrett
10-31-2016, 10:42 AM
Nunu, I agree. We still haven't had even a pulse on the road yet and 5 of the last eight will be road games.
Home and home with Jackassville looks promising. The other two home games are San Diego and Cincinnati, both teams better than their W-L records.
The remaining road games are Oakland, Green Bay, Tennessee and Indy. We have had a good history with the Raiders who, despite a 6-2 record, have won a lot of extremely tight games. That might be a key game for us as to whether we are actually improved from last year or just spinning our wheels.
We should be favored in every home game. We should be favored in Jacksonville. We should be slightly favored in Tennessee. The Raiders game is not a true road game, we play them in Mexico City. That should be a pick em at worst.
Heavy Favorite - JAX, JAX,
Favorite - SD, CIN, TEN
Pick em - OAK
Slight Underdog - IND (who knows what they'll be by then)
Underdog - GB
If we can't win 5 of those games we stink.
If anyone wants to give me O/U on 9.5 wins today I'll take the over. We have shown for 3 years in a row we don't beat great teams but we almost always beat the bad to average teams.
barrett
10-31-2016, 10:44 AM
BTW, notice how much shorter the threads are when we're winning a game? The TEs were a big factor and the bye week comes at a good time to heal up some sore players.
All 3 TEs looked good. Blue also looked great. If he doesn't fumble like last week, he has value as a late game back.
HPF Bob
10-31-2016, 12:22 PM
and b) how much longer is Aboushi going to spend the games inactive.
Oday.......
Keith
10-31-2016, 01:17 PM
Ya know, if the Texans wanted to involve the TEs this much in the passing game as they did against the Lions, you'd think they would invest a decent draft pick in one. Relatedly, Stephen Anderson is a dynamic receiving target... I don't have the snap counts handy, but he seems to be behind Brian Griffin, which I just don't understand at this point.
AJ Bouye is going to get paid this offseason. He has been a revelation. And consider, too, these past couple games he's been doing it with Corey Moore as his safety. I can't believe I'm typing this, but I can't wait for Demps to play again in Moore's spot.
Looking at the next 8, outside of a road game at Green Bay, it's tough to say whether there are any teams decidedly better than the Texans. The Chargers, Bengals, and Raiders are all easily capable of throttling this team, but none of them seem consistently good enough to bank on. A 4-4 record seems like a minimal, reasonable expectation, and there is no doubt 9 wins takes the AFC South.
chuck
10-31-2016, 08:36 PM
Oday.......
By the way, I know you're a big fan of Helen Reddy and Vikki Carr and, I assume, the Andrews Sisters, but are you a fan of Anita O'Day? Because she used to tell a joke about an appearance she made at the Newport Jazz festival, something about her not being able to go on quite yet because it wasn't that time o'day.
And if Minnesota loses tonight then, let's face it, I win the survival pool. Again.
Which is outSTANding because, let's face it, I'm obviously never going to win anything else.
HPF Bob
11-01-2016, 10:13 AM
Chuck, I don't know if Keith is still dispensing HPF t-shirts for winning the contest since he isn't hosting it anymore.
Come to think of it, I think I picked Minnesota also which would be my second strike.
Did you give up your season tickets, Chuck? It looks like we could have a New England-Dallas Super Bowl in Houston this year which is going to mean scalpers will have a field day.
As for Ms. O'Day, she's a little before my time. The lady singers I grooved to in my day were Olivia Newton-John and ABBA. The day it really hit me how old I had become was when I saw Cheryl Ladd doing ads for menopause meds. That felt like a dagger.
chuck
11-01-2016, 11:38 AM
Yeah, I gave up my tickets years ago which is one reason I now feel free to be so smug.
Warren
11-01-2016, 05:38 PM
Ya know, if the Texans wanted to involve the TEs this much in the passing game as they did against the Lions, you'd think they would invest a decent draft pick in one.
Not that it's time to look ahead to April, but since you mentioned it, 2017 is shaping up to be a strong draft for TEs...
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