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Nconroe

01-22-2016, 02:53 PM

Perhaps due to trades we will gain a fith rounder for Keshawn Martin, and two seventh rounders - one for Case Keenum to Rams and one for Fitzpatric to Jets.

But loose a sixth for Mallett from Boston and a seventh from Denver for Chris Clark.

So that is likely a total of 8 picks this year. maybe. likely no compensatory this year.

Right now I'm thinking no trade up required for QB, but as you mentioned , lots of time till draft actually takes place.

Just me, I'd probably target a TE before a RB which means I think some upside to running backs we have now.

A 6'4" safety to keep up with the big TE's like Gronk sounds reasonable.

painekiller

01-28-2016, 10:38 AM

popanot

01-28-2016, 02:16 PM

Perhaps due to trades we will gain a fith rounder for Keshawn Martin, and two seventh rounders - one for Case Keenum to Rams and one for Fitzpatric to Jets.I think playing time incentives Fitz achieved bumped the 7th up to a 6th.

painekiller

01-28-2016, 08:08 PM

I think playing time incentives Fitz achieved bumped the 7th up to a 6th.

I do believe your right.

Nconroe

01-29-2016, 06:31 PM

Draftek is now showing Texans with two in fifth, one in sixth, and none in 7th.

painekiller

02-10-2016, 11:37 AM

Time for a new mock:

22 Vernon Butler DT Louisiana Tech Sr 6-4 325
52 Kenneth Dixon RB Louisiana Tech Sr 5-10 215
85 Dak Prescott QB Mississippi State rSr 6-2 226
116 Cole Toner OT Harvard Sr 6-5 305
146 Jayron Kearse SS Clemson Jr 6-4 220
154 Graham Glasgow OG Michigan rSr 6-6 306
177 Temarrick Hemingway TE South Carolina State rSr 6-5 245

Butler is athletic and large, takes advantage of Wilfork to teach him the ropes.
Dixon is a versatile back that can run between the tackles or split out and run routes.
Prescott is a project that has leadership skills and has become a solid passer.
Toner had a solid Senior Bowl, and showing the skills to stonewall guys from the big schools.
Kearse brings the size for the SS position, is also a ball hawk.
Glasgow can play center or guard, well coached in college.
Hemingway is a big bodied split out TE.

Roy P

02-10-2016, 08:26 PM

painekiller

02-10-2016, 10:34 PM

I like it. No real surprise, we often like the same type of players, PK. It's still early, but do you like Vernon Butler more than Jarran Reed or do you believe that Reed is off the board by #22? I am also a fan of Kearse and am eager to compare his measurables to Miles Killebrew

Yes we do often agree on players, you appear to be the more analytical of us two. I like to see guys in one on one drills and such, I'm not so into the combine numbers they put up. But I do look at measurables.

As for Reed v Butler. I used the cbssports.com rating of the players, and I try not to grab players after their slotting. CBS has Reed as #21, so in my mock he would be gone. But I am not sure which guy I would rank ahead of the other all things being equal. Butler looks more fluid and does not move like a 325lb guy. Granted Reed's highlights are against guys more skilled than Butler has played. I would love to be able to go back and watch the Senior Bowl Practices again.

painekiller

02-11-2016, 05:06 PM

Offensive Draft (Different names to watch)

22 Corey Coleman WR Baylor rJr 5-10 190
52 Nick Martin C Notre Dame rSr 6-4 296 2-3
85 Tyler Higbee TE Western Kentucky rSr 6-5 233
116 Cardale Jones QB Ohio State rJr 6-5 250
146 Aaron Green RB TCU rSr 5-11 203
154 Tom Hackett P Utah Sr 5-11 195
177 Ka'imi Fairbairn K UCLA Sr 6-0 183

Defensive Draft ( new names to watch)

22 Austin Johnson DT Penn State rJr 6-4 323
52 Carl Nassib DE Penn State rSr 6-7 273
85 Scooby Wright III ILB Arizona Jr 6-0 246
116 Cyrus Jones CB Alabama Sr 5-10 196
146 Hassan Ridgeway DT Texas rJr 6-3 320
154 Tyvis Powell FS Ohio State rJr 6-3 209
177 Anthony Zettel DE Penn State rSr 6-4 273

Just some names to watch, that may or may not be on your radars.

BTW if Nassib can play 3-4DE and replace Crick, the Front 7 would clobber other teams OLs. Watt - Wilfork/Johnson - Nassib with Merercilus - McKinney - Cushing - Clowney

Roy P

02-11-2016, 07:50 PM

22 OL Jack Conklin
52 WR Pharoh Cooper
85 S Miles Killebrew
116 QB Dak Prescott
146 TE Henry Krieger Coble
154 RB Aaron Green
177 OL Willie Beavers

painekiller

02-11-2016, 08:25 PM

22 OL Jack Conklin
52 WR Pharoh Cooper
85 S Miles Killebrew
116 QB Dak Prescott
146 TE Henry Krieger Coble
154 RB Aaron Green
177 OL Willie Beavers

Really on Conklin? Please explain your thoughts on him? Are you looking OT as insurance? (Which might not be a bad move, but you have a lot of cap $ committed to OT already)

Cooper can return punts and has size. (I don't like how he carries the ball like a bread loaf away from his body).

Miles Killebrew is a solid thumper at SS.

Are you really willing to wait until the 4th for Prescott?

Henry Krieger Coble video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM-9csLQr-Y) This coaching staff does like them some boys from Iowa.

We both have Green. My question is can he return punts and can he also play some in the slot? He will be a matchup problem with LBs not being able to cover him.

Beavers looks like a solid raw LT prospect.

Roy P

02-12-2016, 07:04 AM

Really on Conklin? Please explain your thoughts on him? Are you looking OT as insurance? (Which might not be a bad move, but you have a lot of cap $ committed to OT already)

Cooper can return punts and has size. (I don't like how he carries the ball like a bread loaf away from his body).

Miles Killebrew is a solid thumper at SS.

Are you really willing to wait until the 4th for Prescott?

Henry Krieger Coble video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM-9csLQr-Y) This coaching staff does like them some boys from Iowa.

We both have Green. My question is can he return punts and can he also play some in the slot? He will be a matchup problem with LBs not being able to cover him.

Beavers looks like a solid raw LT prospect.

I was looking at BPA best case scenarios. I really want TE Hunter Henry in the 1st round, but wanted to go a different way with this mock. I'm scared of the injury Duane Brown has to his quad. The O-line is horrible without Brown in the lineup, so I figured Conklin was good value at #22 and could start RT on day #1 or provide excellent insurance for Duane Brown down the road (later if not sooner). I drafted Beavers late because Mke Mayock has him ranked as his 5th best Tackle and there the guy was still on the board.

Pharoh Cooper is a guy I have heard a lot of buzz about. He would complement Hopkins and Strong while providing Special Teams ability. I am eager to see comparisons with Sterling Shepard of Oklahoma who is currently ranked lower.

Killebrew is similar to Kearse in my opinion but again currently ranked higher. A thumper who has some ball skills and the size to match athletic TEs. Could also be a Gunner on kicks.

I would be sweating bullets to wait for Dak until the 4th round. But, Bryce Petty was a 4th round pick last year and I loved him coming out. If I missed on Prescott, I would have gone Jacoby Brissett or Kevin Hogan later.

Aaron Green is elusive and quick. He reminds me of Reggie Bush, so I would want to pair him with another RB to split carries. Kenyan Drake is the other RB I like to fit this role, but Drake is ranked higher and not as good of a bargain. I beleive Green could be like Andre Ellington or Gio Bernard.

Krieger Coble was the bargain TE I grabbed since I didn't get Henry. I also like Vannett from Ohio State.

Keith

02-12-2016, 11:17 AM

painekiller

02-12-2016, 01:51 PM

I was looking at BPA best case scenarios. I really want TE Hunter Henry in the 1st round, but wanted to go a different way with this mock. I'm scared of the injury Duane Brown has to his quad. The O-line is horrible without Brown in the lineup, so I figured Conklin was good value at #22 and could start RT on day #1 or provide excellent insurance for Duane Brown down the road (later if not sooner). I drafted Beavers late because Mke Mayock has him ranked as his 5th best Tackle and there the guy was still on the board.

I too have been toying with a an OT early for insurance, with both Ben Jones and Brandon Brooks being FAs, I can see a highly likely scenario where one of those guys walks, creating a need for inside help. If Brown is healthy day one, drafting an OT would allow Derek Newton to slide inside to RG. Which in theory, might improve the team. Or you can move the rookie to RG and not expose the edge to a rookie.

Toner is available in the 4 on most mocks and now I can watch Beavers also. I would not be unhappy if we ended up with both Beavers and Toner after the 4th round. But if Mayock is seeing Beavers skills and I saw Toner's skills, little doubt the NFL guys missed them as badly as the mock guys are.

Roy, you and I often find guys low on the mock draft list that end up being drafted in the top 3 rounds, so I would bet that these two guys go earlier than the mockers have them going.

painekiller

02-12-2016, 01:55 PM

If the Texans waited until the 4th round to select a QB - any QB - there will be a mob with pitchforks storming on Kirby Drive.

So if Dak is the answer at QB for this team, who then starts for you week 1? Dak? Savage? Hoyer?

Keep in mind the past two seasons how much the overall success of this team has suffered due to a lack of even a decent QB. Another year of taking a mid-round QB and starting essentially a street FA in Week 1 will not go over well.

Until I hear other wise, Hoyer is BOB's guy, for now. I would hope they keep Weeden and Savage and let them battle it out, cut Hoyer. Let the rookie be the 3rd guy and learn. Also do like Roy has suggested and hire a QB coach. I would add the QB coach to do nothing but work with the rookie and get him accelerated.

Roy P

02-12-2016, 02:52 PM

Roy, you and I often find guys low on the mock draft list that end up being drafted in the top 3 rounds, so I would bet that these two guys go earlier than the mockers have them going.

Yeah, that's why I think Prescott goes 1st or 2nd round. CB Cyrus Jones is at least a 3rd round prospect if not 2nd round. Jayron Kearse, Sterling Shepard, and Aaron Green are 3rd or 4th round picks at the least.

All the players I think I can wait until the 4th-7th round for will be long gone.

Roy P

02-12-2016, 02:56 PM

If the Texans waited until the 4th round to select a QB - any QB - there will be a mob with pitchforks storming on Kirby Drive.

So if Dak is the answer at QB for this team, who then starts for you week 1? Dak? Savage?.

I let Savage start with the first 4 weeks. A 2-2 start warrants a 5th start. A 1-3 start is my cue to give Dak a shot to see if he has made progress.

barrett

02-12-2016, 06:20 PM

Until I hear other wise, Hoyer is BOB's guy, for now. I would hope they keep Weeden and Savage and let them battle it out, cut Hoyer. Let the rookie be the 3rd guy and learn. Also do like Roy has suggested and hire a QB coach. I would add the QB coach to do nothing but work with the rookie and get him accelerated.

The idea that we'd have a mid round rookie as a 3rd stringer and Hoyer starting games is absurd. Bob McNair is already making media rounds saying we are going to draft a QB.

Roy P

02-12-2016, 07:05 PM

I'm guessing it's Paxton Lynch if available or Connor Cook. We shall see.

chuck

02-12-2016, 07:49 PM

The idea that we'd have a mid round rookie as a 3rd stringer and Hoyer starting games is absurd. Bob McNair is already making media rounds saying we are going to draft a QB.

They've already committed to enabling the stadium for wifi so frankly I don't know how much more forward momentum the organization is capable of right now.

On another note, the team's second and third round picks are usually a shitshow so as far as I'm concerned if the team grabs a dude named Pharoah and then another dude named Scooby I'm going to have to call that a win.

Arky

02-12-2016, 07:54 PM

Roy P

02-13-2016, 10:24 AM

Maybe Hackenberg stunk it up for 2 years just in case the Texans didn't have the #1 overall pick so he could ensure that he could be reunited with OB.

nunusguy

02-13-2016, 10:43 AM

What if they use #22 on Hack? ;)

That would certainly stir things up...... What if that was OB's plan all along? Use schmucks for 2 years until Hackenberg came out...

Not sure I would like it but it would certainly put OB in a make or break situation...

IMO the downside is not that severe when and if missing with the 22nd pick in the Draft. Now if they were to use that pick, along with the second and/or third round pick, and our future first round from the 2017 Draft to move up for a QB, that move has a very steep downside if the QB were to crash&burn. But for the the 22nd Draft pick alone, they should use it on Hack if they like him even if they have him rated as only a second-round value.

painekiller

02-14-2016, 11:14 AM

Time for a new mock:

22 Vernon Butler DT Louisiana Tech Sr 6-4 325
52 Kenneth Dixon RB Louisiana Tech Sr 5-10 215
85 Dak Prescott QB Mississippi State rSr 6-2 226
116 Cole Toner OT Harvard Sr 6-5 305
146 Jayron Kearse SS Clemson Jr 6-4 220
154 Graham Glasgow OG Michigan rSr 6-6 306
177 Temarrick Hemingway TE South Carolina State rSr 6-5 245

I wanted to look at where some of these guys are ranked on a few different sites.

Vernon Butler is ranked : CBS Sports - 33; Walter - 15; Draft Tek - 105
Kenneth Dixon is ranked: CBS Sports - 75; Walter - 71; Draft Tek - 82
Dak Prescott is ranked: CBS Sports - 115; Walter - 115; Draft Tek - 110
Cole Toner is ranked: CBS Sports - 125; Walter - not rated; Draft Tek - 136
Jayron Kearse is ranked: CBS Sports - 152; Walter - 79; Draft Tek - 45

So a lot of different views for the guys at the top. And that is what the NFL Draft will be like, only one team has to have the guy you have targeted in the 5th round ranked 45th overall and you loose him.

Roy P

02-14-2016, 01:59 PM

So a lot of different views for the guys at the top. And that is what the NFL Draft will be like, only one team has to have the guy you have targeted in the 5th round ranked 45th overall and you loose him.

That's why I find it a waste of time to rank all 250 players and only focus on My Guys. My draft board has enough players to target in each round that will fit into a system and fill roles on the roster. The trick is trying to figure out how to maximize the draft class and getting the positions you want filled with the best undervalued players without the need of having to reach for your guy.

Dak Prescott being ranked #110 is amazing to me. Perhaps it's because he is not 6'5" or because he played in Tim Tebow's offense. Not really sure, but I would love to get him in the 4th round. The question becomes do I risk waiting that long and potentially missing out on him. My fallback plan would then become Jacoby Brissett. However, he could come off the board by the time I got to pick again and if I was targeting him in the 5th would that be a reach? Worse, what if I panicked because Prescott was gone and I traded up for Brissett and missed out on Kenyan Drake or Jayron Kearse.

This kind of "what if" scenarios makes me want to pull the trigger on Dak in the 2nd round so I make sure I get my QB and keep as many draft picks as possible.

I still have regrets that we were waiting for Jimmy Garoppolo to fall to the 3rd round. :(

painekiller

02-16-2016, 01:28 AM

If I am going Offensive heavy in this draft, then I might be looking a little bit harder at this guy.

Corey Coleman: (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/corey-coleman?id=2555333) The 5-11 WR from Baylor is in the 4.3 range, and he can stop and start, making him a possible PR guy also. Watch the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKC4gjniBAE&list=PL7beoccrCdzLXXHdanJWi_y20Z9SST8-V)

Roy P

02-16-2016, 10:50 AM

So, last night I decided to perform my 1st mock draft utilizing Fanspeak On The Clock this year. On my first attempt I selected the following players before my phone locked up:
1st round - QB Carson Wentz
2nd round - ILB Jaylon Smith
3rd round - RB Jordan Howard
4th round - SS Miles Killebrew
Then I waited for the 5th round to load, but eventually decided to just start over. So, on my 2nd attempt I was able to choose the following:
1st round - NT Jarran Reed
2nd round - TE Hunter Henry
3rd round - RB Devontae Booker
4th round - SS Miles Killebrew
5th round - DE Matt Ioannidis
6th round - QB Kevin Hogan
7th round - RB Kenyan Drake

I have to admit that I would be quite pleased with that draft if it played out that way. :)

painekiller

02-17-2016, 01:49 AM

So i played with Fanspeak ( thanks Roy, you've given me a new obsession)

29: R1P29 QB PAXTON LYNCH MEMPHIS
52: R2P21 WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU
85: R3P22 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
93: R3P30 RB KENNETH DIXON LOUISIANA TECH
120: R4P21 C MAX TUERK USC
129: R4P30 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO ST
159: R5P20 DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY TEXAS
166: R5P27 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
167: R5P28 K ROBERT AGUAYO FLORIDA ST
198: R6P20 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE

TRADES TRADE PARTNER:
ARIZONA CARDINALS Get:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

Texans RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30
ROUND: 5 PICK: 28

What do you guys think of this one? I would love this outcome.

painekiller

02-19-2016, 07:53 PM

painekiller

02-20-2016, 11:39 AM

27: R1p27 qb paxton lynch memphis
52: R2p21 te hunter henry arkansas
85: R3p22 wr josh doctson tcu
88: R3p25 rb kenneth dixon louisiana tech
120: R4p21 dt javon hargrave south carolina state
126: R4p27 cb keivarae russell notre dame
159: R5p20 ot cole toner harvard
166: R5p27 g connor mcgovern missouri
198: R6p20 c austin blythe iowa

trades
trade partner: Green bay packers get:

Round: 1 pick: 22 (olb darron lee)

texans received:
Round: 1 pick: 27
round: 3 pick: 25
round: 4 pick: 27

painekiller

02-20-2016, 11:41 AM

I love playing with these mocks, makes me look at a variety of prospects.

Roy P

02-20-2016, 02:44 PM

another pre-combine fanspeak mock

28: R1P28 QB PAXTON LYNCH MEMPHIS
61: R2P30 WR WILL FULLER NOTRE DAME
85: R3P22 RB KENNETH DIXON LOUISIANA TECH
91: R3P28 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
120: R4P21 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
127: R4P28 G GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN
129: R4P30 K ROBERTO AGUAYO FLORIDA STATE
159: R5P20 OT WILLIE BEAVERS WESTERN KENTUCKY
166: R5P27 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
167: R5P28 S ELIJAH SHUMATE NOTRE DAME
198: R6P20 WR DEMARCUS AYERS HOUSTON
208: R6P30 DT ANTWAUN WOODS USC

I'm trying to cherry pick from a few different sources and utilize the picks you were able to garner.

#29 TE Hunter Henry - I believe that he is being ranked lower than he will eventually be selected. I am considering QB Paxton Lynch here as well.
#52 QB Dak Prescott. He is why I was able to choose the best TE with my 1st pick. If I had gone with Lynch in the 1st, I would like to be able to take WR Michael Thomas here to add to Hopkins and Strong.
85 RB Kenneth Dixon, Jordan Howard, or Devontae Booker (whoever's the BPA). I'm also considering S Miles Killebrew or Jayron Kearse.
93 SS Killebrew or Kearse....the idea of doubling up back to back S at 85 & 93 intrigued me.
120 WR Aaron Burbridge - since I passed on Thomas in the 2nd, I grab one of my favorite big WRs in the draft. I honestly feel as if he is the main reason people are so high on Connor Cook because he caught a lot of inaccurate passes.
129 RB Kenyan Drake - I like his Special Teams ability, believe that he could potentially share some carries so the RB workload could be spread out.
159 DE Matt Ioannidis - a workhorse who can play inside too.
166 QB Kevin Hogan - I have no problem drafting 2 QBs. My other thought was taking a 2nd TE here....Jerrell Adams or Tyler Higbee
167 NT DJ Reader - I have to believe that he is greatly undervalued, but I keep seeing him ranked this low. Yes please, and thank you.
198 RB Aaron Green - Taking 3 RBs in the draft might be silly. I see he has been snubbed by the Combine, so #198 might not be out of the question. Plus, if I took Kearse and Killebrew with my 3rd round picks I would be comfortable with Drake and Green as my RB by committee. My other thought was OG Joe Dahl.

The only thing that concerns me is not being able to choose an OL, but the class isn't that great to find a bargain. Perhaps Westerman or Garnett in the 3rd round wouldn't have been a bad idea. I also want an ILB to replace Cushing, but maybe I look harder next year. Lastly, I considered CB Maurice Canady, Harlan Miller, and Cyrus Jones.

painekiller

02-20-2016, 03:29 PM

I'm trying to cherry pick from a few different sources and utilize the picks you were able to garner.

93 SS Killebrew or Kearse....the idea of doubling up back to back S at 85 & 93 intrigued me.
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166 QB Kevin Hogan - I have no problem drafting 2 QBs. My other thought was taking a 2nd TE here....Jerrell Adams or Tyler Higbee
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198 RB Aaron Green - Taking 3 RBs in the draft might be silly. I see he has been snubbed by the Combine, so #198 might not be out of the question. Plus, if I took Kearse and Killebrew with my 3rd round picks I would be comfortable with Drake and Green as my RB by committee. My other thought was OG Joe Dahl.

The only thing that concerns me is not being able to choose an OL, but the class isn't that great to find a bargain. Perhaps Westerman or Garnett in the 3rd round wouldn't have been a bad idea. I also want an ILB to replace Cushing, but maybe I look harder next year. Lastly, I considered CB Maurice Canady, Harlan Miller, and Cyrus Jones.

I am reading that some scouts think Kearse is to tight hipped to play safety, they seem to think he is going to have to be converted to LB.
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With the team likely to keep two current QBs, Savage and Weeden being my hope (Hoyer most likely over Weeden). I don't see them having the reps to go to a 2nd QB in this draft. And as bad as the TEs have been on the team, grabbing 2 makes perfect sense.
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Foster is likely gone, but Blue is not going anywhere and Grimes is likely to stick, **Edit add** also I forget about Akeem Hunt, he should make a jump and adds an element of speed this team needs **end edit** adding the 3rd RB to your draft maybe a reach. The Texans do need KR and PR guys and adding players that can be that and play a position is a bonus. I hope Izzo can turn our ST into a plus.

I have been mocking from the point of view that we do not resign Jones and Brooks, so I have been heavy OL in my drafts, and its a slim draft in that area, but there are a few real studs that the draftniks have in the 4th and 5th rounds. I wish I could add more picks in the 2nd and early 3rd, but that is hard to do while keeping your 1st round pick.

My question is how much do you sell the future draft for this draft?

painekiller

02-20-2016, 03:31 PM

Roy P

02-20-2016, 04:48 PM

I finished a couple of Mocks using the Walter rankings on Fanspeak. Without trades, this was my draft and alternative.

#22 WR Laquan Treadwell or QB Carson Wentz
#52 QB Dak Prescott or ILB Darron Lee
#85 NT Vernon Butler or WR Josh Doctson
#120 RB Kenyan Drake or S Miles Killebrew
#159 CB Maurice Canady or DE Matt Ioannidis
#166 TE Jerrell Adams or CB Cyrus Jones
#198 RB Aaron Green or NT DJ Reader

Roy P

02-20-2016, 04:53 PM

Roy P

02-20-2016, 05:26 PM

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With the team likely to keep two current QBs, Savage and Weeden being my hope (Hoyer most likely over Weeden). I don't see them having the reps to go to a 2nd QB in this draft. And as bad as the TEs have been on the team, grabbing 2 makes perfect sense.
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Foster is likely gone, but Blue is not going anywhere and Grimes is likely to stick, **Edit add** also I forget about Akeem Hunt, he should make a jump and adds an element of speed this team needs **end edit** adding the 3rd RB to your draft maybe a reach. The Texans do need KR and PR guys and adding players that can be that and play a position is a bonus. I hope Izzo can turn our ST into a plus.

I have been mocking from the point of view that we do not resign Jones and Brooks, so I have been heavy OL in my drafts, and its a slim draft in that area, but there are a few real studs that the draftniks have in the 4th and 5th rounds. I wish I could add more picks in the 2nd and early 3rd, but that is hard to do while keeping your 1st round pick.

I'm contemplating the "Perfect Draft" (within reason) prior to the Combine. Without pulling off any trades it would look like this:

#22 NT Jarran Reed
#52 TE Hunter Henry
#85 OG Joshua Garnett (not a 'sexy pick' but is a plug-and-play guy to fill the void at RG.
#120 RB Kenyan Drake (the best bargain RB in the draft)
#159 WR Aaron Burbridge
#166 DE Matt Ioannidis
#198 QB Kevin Hogan (If they are keeping Savage and Weeden, there's no pressure to start the season.)

HPF Bob

02-20-2016, 11:51 PM

Hard to do this before we know about free agent moves and the comp picks. Those will change the equation significantly.

I am already presuming Foster will be cut.

painekiller

02-21-2016, 12:50 AM

Hard to do this before we know about free agent moves and the comp picks. Those will change the equation significantly.

I am already presuming Foster will be cut.

That is a major issue in doing these. In my drafts I am looking for OL and playmakers, what if we resign or sign the OL guys, then we are drafting backups. What if we sign a FA QB? then we are not looking at a guy in the 1st to 3rd rounds.

So I cannot wait until the FA signing start.

Roy P

02-21-2016, 02:04 PM

Any computer simulation mock draft is only as good as the database you are using. I chose the latest updated Draftgeek draft list and the results were too good to be true.

#22 WR Laquon Treadwell
#52 NT Jarran Reed
# 85 TE Hunter Henry
#120 QB Dak Prescott (I was nervous about the pick since Kevin Hogan was chosen earlier in the round)
#159 OG Christian Westerman - too good to pass up here. Hoped that Kenyan Drake would last for my next pick.
#166 RB CJ Prosise (220lbs feature back - I'll take it)
#198 ILB Nick Vigil

I then did a CBS Draftline database draft on Fanspeak and came away with this:

#22 QB Paxton Lynch
#52 WR Josh Doctson
#85 RB Kenneth Dixon
#120 DE Matt Ioannidis
#159 NT Javon Hargrave
#166 TE Henry Krieger-Coble
#198 OLB Victor Ochi

painekiller

02-21-2016, 11:06 PM

Used DraftGeek on this one, man their list is nuts

29: R1P29 QB JARED GOFF CALIFORNIA (2nd QB taken)
52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
85: R3P22 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
93: R3P30 WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON MISSISSIPPI STATE
120: R4P21 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
129: R4P30 OT REES ODHIAMBO BOISE STATE
159: R5P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
166: R5P27 C JACK ALLEN MICHIGAN STATE
167: R5P28 CB CRE'VON LEBLANC FLORIDA ATLANTIC
198: R6P20 WR DEMARCUS AYERS HOUSTON

TRADE PARTNER:
ARIZONA CARDINALS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 (OLB JAYLON SMITH)

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29 (QB JARED GOFF)
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 (WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON)
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30 (OG/OT REES ODHIAMBO)
ROUND: 5 PICK: 28 (CB CRE'VON LEBLANC)

I was trying to to do Roy's no trade mock, but they offered me to much to drop 7 spots. Goff at 29, no way it happens IMO. But I take it.

I took two DTs, one will be a NT one a 5 tech DE. Not sure who will be what, but I can guess.

I also got the best TE in the draft in the 3rd round, I jumped. Crazy list to mock to.

Some of these are old names for me and some are new, I can't wait until we know the teams real needs after FA starts.

Roy P

02-22-2016, 09:58 AM

The list seems ridiculous. Getting Goff at #29 and Hunter Henry in the 3rd round is just unbelievable. Then, you take a look team by team and it isn't too crazy.

HPF Bob

02-22-2016, 10:28 AM

I took my own suggestion and made a pre-draft trade up in the first round to try to improve our QB options in the draft. As mentioned in another thread, the Eagles did not have a 2nd round pick so I offered our #1 (22) and #2 for Philly's #13 and was rejected. So I added our 5th (the 20th pick that round) and they took the bait. Later, I traded out of the 4th round to pick up a 5th and 6th from San Francisco, giving us a 1st, 3rd, two 5ths and 2 6ths.

Walter Football was the most recently updated so I used that one which had Carson Wentz ranked 10th on their big board. He was still there at #13.

13: R1P13 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA STATE
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
142: R5P3 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
166: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
198: R6P20 OT ALEX LEWIS NEBRASKA
210: R6P32 K ROBERTO AGUAYO FLORIDA STATE

All my guys after this seem to be folks with versatility and special teams potential other than Alex Lewis. Collins is a solid all-around back whose one major knock is ball security. Vannett disappeared with all the talent at OSU but CBS had him rated as the third-best TE who also can be used as a slot receiver or FB. Jones is a converted receiver who returns kicks and can pick off passes. Still raw as a corner though. Aguayo is clearly the top kicker on the board.

Alex Lewis is a guy with 2nd-round talent at LT but has a temper that needs to be controlled. He was sentenced to 45 days while at Colorado for beating a man unconscious and also had discipline issues at Nebraska after he transferred but he was also a team captain with the Huskers. He could be a cheap steal or a huge bust. In the 6th, that's worth a gamble.

Roy P

02-23-2016, 06:40 PM

I did two mocks today: the first time was with the Fanspeak database:
#22 QB Paxton Lynch
#52 WR Josh Doctson
#85 RB Kenneth Dixon
#120 SS Miles Killebrew
#159 NT Javon Hargrave
#166 TE Jerell Adams
#198 TE Henry Krieger-Coble

The 2nd time I chose the Risden database and I felt silly:
#22 QB Jared Goff
#52 Laquon Treadwell
#85 OT Shon Coleman
#120 WR Tyler Boyd
#159 RB Jordan Howard
#166 DE Matt Ioannidis
#198 OT Kyle Murphy

Roy P

02-24-2016, 06:18 PM

CBS and Draftspeak

#22 QB Carson Wentz
#52 TE Hunter Henry
#85 WR Tyler Boyd
#120 G Christian Wwsterman
#159 RB CJ Prosise
#166 CB Harlan Miller
#198 OLB James Crowser

#22 WR Laquon Treadwell
#52 QB Paxton Lynch
#85 Tyler Boyd
#120 RB Kenyan Drake
#159 DE Matt Ioannidis
#166 ILB Blake Martinez
#198 TE David Morgan II

painekiller

02-25-2016, 08:05 PM

Cause I just watched Hackenberg's media time. Seems like a good kid, talks the BOB talk. I used Walter's List.

33: R2P2 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
52: R2P21 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
93: R3P30 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
101: R4P2 DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY TEXAS
120: R4P21 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
129: R4P30 WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON MISSISSIPPI STATE
140: R5P1 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY
159: R5P20 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
166: R5P27 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE
198: R6P20 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU

ARIZONA CARDINALS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 (DT SHELDON RANKINS )

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29 sent to TITANS
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 (RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS)
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30 (WR DE'RUNNYA WILSON)

TRADE PARTNER:
TENNESSEE TITANS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29 (CB VERNON HARGREAVES)

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 2 (TE HUNTER HENRY)
ROUND: 4 PICK: 2 (DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY)
ROUND: 5 PICK: 1 (TE TYLER HIGBEE)

2 trade downs to capture 5 extra picks.

HPF Bob

02-27-2016, 11:42 AM

It appears Fanspeak will allow you, as the Texans, to send our 1st, 2nd and our first 5th-rounder to Philadelphia for their 1st (13th overall) anytime you want to do it. I tried some other variations of the deal and it always refuses.

The strategy, at this point, has three prongs:

1. Trade up to #13 and hope Goff or Wentz falls to you. I've been able to make this work about 60% of the time. If it doesn't work, then you have to decide whether to trade back down or grab someone else that unexpectedly fell.

2. Stay put at #22 and take Lynch or Cook if they are available.

3. Take another player at #22 or trade down but ultimately, aim for the next group of Prescott and Hackenberg.

I prefer the idea of getting the best QB we can afford without giving up a future #1. Losing your second-rounder hurts but if the reward is Goff or Wentz, it is a good deal. Later, I traded out of the 4th round to San Francisco for an early 5th and a late 6th to give us 6 overall choices.

13: R1P13 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA ST
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
142: R5P3 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
166: R5P27 OT-OG DENVER KIRKLAND ARKANSAS
198: R6P20 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH
210: R6P32 K ROBERT AGUAYO FLORIDA ST

Williams is a value pick in the 5th. He was projected a third rounder who was out all last season with a foot injury but appeared at the Senior Bowl. I like backs who didn't get run to death in college and are undervalued because of it.

Kirkland is a massive man with experience at G and OT who can fill in at any of 4 positions along the line but needs refinement.

Norris is a 3-4 ILB who makes up for being a step slow with a quick first step and great ball-hunting instincts. How much longer will we have Cushing? McKinney fills one spot but we need someone else to challenge here.

Roy P

02-27-2016, 03:27 PM

I can see why we want to be aggressive about trading up for a Franchise QB. However, the only guy ready to step in and take over the team on day one is Goff, in my opinion. I like Wentz's upside, but would be scared to trade ao much to get him.

Roy P

02-27-2016, 06:41 PM

After watching Wentz's footwork today, I will have to say that I am impressed. He has made progress since Mobile. So, after 2nd thought, I would be ok with trading up to 13 for him. I wouldn't do that deal for Lynch though. After watching Wentz today, I doubt he drops to #13 so perhaps it is a moot point. :/

painekiller

02-27-2016, 08:38 PM

Roy P

02-27-2016, 09:10 PM

DraftTek list

14: R1P14 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA ST
52: R2P21 WR WILLIAM FULLER NOTRE DAME
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO ST
159: R5P20 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
166: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
198: R6P20 G CONNOR MCGOVERN MISSOURI

Swapped 1st round picks with Oakland and gave them 1st round pick from 2017, to get up and grab Wentz. Everything else was letting the draft come to me.

Love the picks. I don't see Vannett lasting that long, but you never know. Interested in which RBs were available at #85. Getting both Razorbacks is a nice touch. McGovern impressed me at the Combine.

painekiller

02-27-2016, 09:38 PM

Love the picks. I don't see Vannett lasting that long, but you never know. Interested in which RBs were available at #85. Getting both Razorbacks is a nice touch. McGovern impressed me at the Combine.

To be honest, when the pick came up for Williams, I had forgotten that I already had Collins. Not Sure what I would have grabbed instead of RB with that pick now.

And I also like the fact that I was able to keep all my picks for this draft. If Wentz turns out as expected, then two ones is worth it.

AFC South would have Luck, Bortles, Mariota, and then Wentz. Pretty solid potential top to bottom.

Roy P

02-27-2016, 10:26 PM

I'm a proponent of surrounding whoever the QB is with talent. A RB, TE, WR, and OL to protect him.

HPF Bob

02-28-2016, 10:01 AM

In this draft, I fully agree. We have to jump start the offense. So, the question becomes Would you rather trade a 1st, 2nd and 5th to Philly for #13 or trade a 1st and next year's 1st to Oakland for pick #14? The answer may be that Philly might take our QB at #13 or trade down with the Rams who might take our QB at #13.

It all may be for nothing if Goff and Wentz continue to impress but there's a long way to go.

painekiller

02-28-2016, 07:07 PM

Draft Geek list On Fanspeak

23: R1P23 QB PAXTON LYNCH MEMPHIS
67: R3P4 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
102: R4P3 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE
112: R4P13 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
120: R4P21 K ROBERTO AGUAYO FLORIDA STATE
151: R5P12 C MAX TUERK USC
159: R5P20 OT COLE TONER HARVARD
166: R5P27 S ELIJAH SHUMATE NOTRE DAME
169: R5P30 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
192: R6P14 DT ANTHONY ZETTEL PENN STATE
194: R6P16 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE
198: R6P20 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY

TRADE PARTNER:
DALLAS COWBOYS GET
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21 (S VONN BELL)

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 4 (WR COREY COLEMAN)
ROUND: 4 PICK: 3 (QB DAK PRESCOTT)
ROUND: 6 PICK: 14 (DT ANTHONY ZETTEL)

TRADE PARTNER:
MINNESOTA VIKINGS GET
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 (OT TAYLOR DECKER)

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 23 (QB PAXTON LYNCH)
ROUND: 3 PICK: 23 (DETROIT PICKS BELOW)

TRADE PARTNER:
DETROIT LIONS GET
ROUND: 3 PICK: 23 (OLB YANNICK NGAKOUE )

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 13 (DT MATT IOANNIDIS)
ROUND: 5 PICK: 12 (C MAX TUERK)
ROUND: 5 PICK: 30 (WR MALCOLM MITCHELL)
ROUND: 6 PICK: 16 (S JORDAN LUCAS)

Roy P

02-28-2016, 08:16 PM

Lynch and Prescott.....I like it. Let them have a real QB battle.

painekiller

02-28-2016, 08:31 PM

Lynch and Prescott.....I like it. Let them have a real QB battle.

The fear will always be that 4th rounder out plays the 1st rounder. Also with BOB I don't see them keeping a fourth QB, so one of them would most likely be staffed on IR.

So not a likely draft

Roy P

02-28-2016, 09:07 PM

It's not likely, but I would like to see who picks up the Offense quicker.

painekiller

02-29-2016, 12:57 PM

popanot

02-29-2016, 08:21 PM

That's a heck of a draft, but just too much to give up for my taste. I also don't see Dixon lasting that long. For that cost, I'd probably go a different direction.

painekiller

02-29-2016, 10:17 PM

That's a heck of a draft, but just too much to give up for my taste. I also don't see Dixon lasting that long. For that cost, I'd probably go a different direction.

I too think the cost is to high. But I wanted to see if it was possible.

Also on this list Dixon was available, and iirc, Williams from Arkansas was there at that pick also.

nunusguy

02-29-2016, 10:25 PM

Heard that Chargers are willing to trade #3. So I tried it on fanspeak.

Used DraftTek chart

3: R1P3 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA ST
85: R3P22 RB KENNETH DIXON LOUISIANA TECH
120: R4P21 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO ST
159: R5P20 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
166: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
198: R6P20 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
FUTURE ROUND 1 PICK
FUTURE ROUND 2 PICK

TEXANS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 3

Expensive Trade, so the question becomes "Is Wentz the Guy"?
Wentz seems to be the top-rated QB coming out of the combine. Yep easily the biggest player personnel move the Texans would have ever made to this point in time if this trade would come to pass.
But that is the question here isn't it - "Is Wentz the Guy" ?

HPF Bob

03-01-2016, 12:11 PM

I had heard conflicting reports that the 49ers were willing to trade down and that they were willing to trade Kaepernick (the Texans were mentioned as a suitor but apparently nobody bothered to ask the Texans first). So I tried using the offer of our 2016 #1 and 2017 #1 plus 2016 #2 to move to #7 to get Goff or Wentz. The problem was, in this sim, the Cowboys took Wentz so I could either take Lynch, take another position or trade down. I traded back down with Philly at #13 for a pair of thirds.

So I wound up with Lynch, Hooper and both Arkansas RBs but I'm out the following year's #1.

HPF Bob

03-01-2016, 01:16 PM

I traded up with the 9ers again for #7 involving our #1s in 2016 and 2017 plus our #2 this year. I also traded down twice for more depth later on:

7: R1P7 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA STATE
86: R3P23 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
149: R5P10 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
159: R5P20 RB KELVIN TAYLOR FLORIDA
166: R5P27 CB JONATHAN JONES AUBURN
187: R6P9 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
198: R6P20 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH
238: R7P19 FB DEREK WATT WISCONSIN

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW YORK GIANTS
SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 5 PICK: 10
ROUND: 6 PICK: 9

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
FUTURE ROUND 1 PICK

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 7

TRADE PARTNER:
MINNESOTA VIKINGS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 23
ROUND: 7 PICK: 19

I forget which big board I used but they were all pre-combine.

painekiller

03-02-2016, 11:59 AM

FanSpeak's first list post combine.

11: R1P11 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA STATE
52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
140: R5P1 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY
159: R5P20 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU
166: R5P27 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON
198: R6P20 OT WILLIE BEAVERS WESTERN MICHIGAN

Trades

TRADE PARTNER: CHICAGO BEARS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
FUTURE ROUND 1 PICK

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 11

TRADE PARTNER: TENNESSEE TITANS GET:
FUTURE ROUND 4 PICK

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 5 PICK: 1

5 offensive picks
3 defensive picks

Potential franchise QB, athletic NT with size, stud SEC RB with speed, day one slot CB, athletic TE, burner WR, box safety, that can cover, raw athletic OT.

Two trades that give up next year, but the offense starts to rebuild now.

I could endorse the draft. Nice group.

If the Texans were to get Wentz, then I would consider the draft a success. Add in the other parts picked here and you added much needed depth or potential starters.

popanot

03-02-2016, 12:55 PM

I wonder if Philly is so frustrated with Demarco Murray's attitude and contract that they'd trade out of their #1 for cheap just to dump him and his salary. I'd be inclined to give up our #1 and #2 (and maybe a future pick) if we could get the QB and Murray (RB), or if not Murray, sign Lamar Miller so we could use our other picks elsewhere. They should have cap money to do something like that this year.

HPF Bob

03-02-2016, 01:18 PM

I decided to trade down and seek Hackenberg or Prescott so I stockpiled picks and came away with this (Fanspeak board 3/1):

40: R2P9 DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE OLE MISS
57: R2P26 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
71: R3P8 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE
89: R3P26 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
110: R4P11 WR KENNY LAWLER CALIFORNIA
120: R4P21 CB KEVON SEYMOUR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
126: R4P27 OT LE'RAVEN CLARK TEXAS TECH
149: R5P10 K ROBERTO AGUAYO FLORIDA STATE
159: R5P20 WR NELSON SPRUCE COLORADO
163: R5P24 OLB DEION JONES LSU
166: R5P27 WR BRALON ADDISON OREGON
198: R6P20 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
227: R7P8 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 26
ROUND: 4 PICK: 27
ROUND: 5 PICK: 24

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW YORK GIANTS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 9
ROUND: 3 PICK: 8
ROUND: 4 PICK: 11
ROUND: 5 PICK: 10

TRADE PARTNER:
PITTSBURGH STEELERS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 26
ROUND: 7 PICK: 8

Yeah, didn't intend on getting 3 WRs but I was shopping for value.

HPF Bob

03-03-2016, 09:42 AM

While trying to mock the Super Bowl 50 Champion Denver Broncos draft at Fanspeak, I noticed they had extra choices beyond the 32nd pick in the round which I thought was a mistake. So I contacted Megan at Fanspeak and she said they had connections that have already projected the compensation picks and added those picks to their mock simulations. Which means, among other conclusions, that the Texans aren't getting any compensation picks this year.

painekiller

03-03-2016, 12:31 PM

FanSpeak is finally starting to get the list updated post combine.

22: R1P22 QB PAXTON LYNCH MEMPHIS
32: R2P1 RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT OHIO ST
52: R2P21 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 RB KENNETH DIXON LOUISIANA TECH
120: R4P21 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU
159: R5P20 DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY TEXAS
166: R5P27 OT WILLIE BEAVERS WESTERN MICHIGAN
198: R6P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS GET:
FUTURE ROUND 1 PICK

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 1 (RB EZEKIEL ELLIOTT)

i had to jump back in when I saw Elliott still available at the top of round 2. Could have given up picks in this year, but preferred to give up next years one.

HPF Bob

03-05-2016, 12:55 PM

CBS has updated their Big Board post-combine so I took a crack. Instead of trading up, I traded down and still got my QB choice of the second-tier group.

30: R1P30 QB PAXTON LYNCH MEMPHIS
52: R2P21 DT AUSTIN JOHNSON PENN STATE
62: R2P31 RB DERRICK HENRY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
120: R4P21 C JACK ALLEN MICHIGAN STATE
159: R5P20 CB JONATHAN JONES AUBURN
166: R5P27 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH
198: R6P20 WR DEMARCUS AYERS HOUSTON

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 2 PICK: 31

With the bonus pick acquired in the trade, I was able to get Mr. Heisman as well as Lynch. Austin Johnson is a big DT that came from Bill OBrien U. who will help whenever Wilfork runs out of gas. Allen is a name I haven't looked at before but there was a big drop between him and the next best OL on the board. He has that C-G flexibility, a former wrestler who excels at line calls and short-space movement. On the downside, he's a bit small for the pros.

Roy P

03-06-2016, 01:54 PM

I decided to trade down and seek Hackenberg or Prescott so I stockpiled picks and came away with this (Fanspeak board 3/1):

40: R2P9 DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE OLE MISS
57: R2P26 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
71: R3P8 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE
89: R3P26 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
110: R4P11 WR KENNY LAWLER CALIFORNIA
120: R4P21 CB KEVON SEYMOUR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
126: R4P27 OT LE'RAVEN CLARK TEXAS TECH
149: R5P10 K ROBERTO AGUAYO FLORIDA STATE
159: R5P20 WR NELSON SPRUCE COLORADO
163: R5P24 OLB DEION JONES LSU
166: R5P27 WR BRALON ADDISON OREGON
198: R6P20 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
227: R7P8 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS

value.

I liked your idea of getting extra draft picks....so I did the same and selected the following players:

40 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISS ST
57 OC RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
71 RB CJ PROSISE NOTRE DAME
89 DE CHRIS JONES MISS ST
110 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
120 OG CHRISTIAN WESTERMAN AZ ST
126 NT JAVON HARGRAVE S. CAROLINA ST
149 SS MILES KILLEBREW S. UTAH STATE
159 OLB CHARLES TAPPER OKLAHOMA
163 OT WILLIE BEAVERS W. MICHIGAN
166 RB KENYAN DRAKE ALABAMA
198 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
227 CB ANTHONY BROWN PURDUE

HPF Bob

03-07-2016, 10:09 AM

You gotta be kidding me. Fanspeak mock with 3/4 CBS board produced the QB of the future without a trade and an amazing 5 trade downs with our second round pick.

22: R1P22 QB JARED GOFF CALIFORNIA
63: R2P32 RB DERRICK HENRY ALABAMA
79: R3P16 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
123: R4P24 G SPENCER DRANGO BAYLOR
124: R4P25 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
144: R5P5 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
159: R5P20 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE
166: R5P27 RB TYLER ERVIN SAN JOSE STATE
190: R6P12 OT ALEX LEWIS NEBRASKA
198: R6P20 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH
199: R6P21 FB DEREK WATT WISCONSIN

TRADE PARTNER:
CINCINNATI BENGALS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 24
ROUND: 4 PICK: 24

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 27

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 29
ROUND: 6 PICK: 21

TRADE PARTNER:
PITTSBURGH STEELERS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 24

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 27
ROUND: 4 PICK: 25

TRADE PARTNER:
WASHINGTON REDSKINS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22
ROUND: 6 PICK: 12

TRADE PARTNER:
DENVER BRONCOS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 29

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 32
ROUND: 5 PICK: 5

TRADE PARTNER:
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
ROUND: 4 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 16

popanot

03-07-2016, 10:23 AM

You gotta be kidding me. Fanspeak mock with 3/4 CBS board produced the QB of the future without a trade and an amazing 5 trade downs with our second round pick.IMO, Wentz will be over-drafted in the actual draft (although, he could still be really good), and I have a feeling us amateur draft pundits (myself included) are over-valuing the rest of the QB's. I have a feeling NFL teams do not think as highly of this QB crop as we do. It would not shock me to see Goff - or even Wentz - fall that far if say the Browns fall in love with Goff instead.

Roy P

03-07-2016, 11:34 AM

I have a feeling NFL teams do not think as highly of this QB crop as we do. It would not shock me to see Goff - or even Wentz - fall that far if say the Browns fall in love with Goff instead.

From your lips to God's ears. If we stayed put and were able to draft Goff, I would be tickled pink.

popanot

03-07-2016, 08:59 PM

From your lips to God's ears. If we stayed put and were able to draft Goff, I would be tickled pink.The key will be SF. I think CLE definitely goes QB. But if SF decides to continue to roll with Kap, I think QB2 could fall to us. Rams are another wildcard, but I could see them passing on QB.

Would be nice if:
SF sticks with Kap
Rams sign RG3
NYJ re-signs Fitzmagic

But then, we're going to sign Osweiler and this will be all moot. 😒

Roy P

03-07-2016, 09:11 PM

The key will be SF. I think CLE definitely goes QB. But if SF decides to continue to roll with Kap, I think QB2 could fall to us. Rams are another wildcard, but I could see them passing on QB.

I could see the Cardinals taking Dak Prescott in the 2nd round as Fisher's "Poor man's Steve McNair" - If that happens and we didn't have a QB, I would rather have Kevin Hogan than Christian Hackenberg....hell, Connor Cook and his "baggage" would be a better option than Hackenberg.

painekiller

03-08-2016, 12:12 AM

....hell, Connor Cook and his "baggage" would be a better option than Hackenberg.

I agree with this part. Also I am not in favor of Hogan.

painekiller

03-08-2016, 12:35 AM

I used the CBS updated board

23: R1P23 QB PAXTON LYNCH MEMPHIS
52: R2P21 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 RB KENNETH DIXON LOUISIANA TECH
120: R4P21 OT COLE TONER HARVARD
122: R4P23 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY
159: R5P20 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU
160: R5P21 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
166: R5P27 OT WILLIE BEAVERS WESTERN MICHIGAN
198: R6P20 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH

TRADE PARTNER:
MINNESOTA VIKINGS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 23
ROUND: 4 PICK: 23
ROUND: 5 PICK: 21

I cannot wait until the FA signing start in this week, so the teams real needs are shown.

I am still waiting on them the resign the two starting OL guys, and Crick.

HPF Bob

03-08-2016, 01:20 PM

Fanspeak updated their board 3/8 so I partook. Had a trade down with the Packers from 22 to 27 and gained some third-day picks:

27: R1P27 QB PAXTON LYNCH MEMPHIS
52: R2P21 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 G LANDON TURNER NORTH CAROLINA
92: R3P29 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE
120: R4P21 CB JONATHAN JONES AUBURN
126: R4P27 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA
159: R5P20 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
166: R5P27 WR BRALON ADDISON OREGON
198: R6P20 DE CHARLES TAPPER OKLAHOMA
199: R6P21 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 27
ROUND: 3 PICK: 25
ROUND: 4 PICK: 27

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 25

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 29
ROUND: 6 PICK: 21

HPF Bob

03-09-2016, 08:38 PM

Now that free agency has shaken up the roster, I tried Fanspeak (3/8 board) for the first time without the need for a QB or RB early.

I honestly saw no reason not to trade down so I took a deal with Baltimore for their 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounders for our first, leaving Houston with no 1st or 7th round picks but two in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th plus one in the sixth:

36: R2P5 OT GERMAIN IFEDI TEXAS A&M
52: R2P21 S VONN BELL OHIO STATE
70: R3P7 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE
105: R4P6 C MAX TUERK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
120: R4P21 RB JORDAN HOWARD INDIANA
159: R5P20 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
166: R5P27 WR BRALON ADDISON OREGON
198: R6P20 QB JAKE COKER ALABAMA

TRADE PARTNER:
BALTIMORE RAVENS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 5
ROUND: 3 PICK: 7
ROUND: 4 PICK: 6

Ifedi was the last of the early-round OTs available so I grabbed him while I could. Bell is the sort of safety that should stick for awhile. Henry was still around in the early third so i took him but I would have taken Hooper or Vannett if he wasn't there. Jones is a solid run-stuffer for the middle. Tuerk gives us a backup behind our new center and Howard a solid RB to add behind Miller. Forrest is a good complement in the middle while Addison is ultra-quick and can be used for kick returns. There's about 5 late-round QBs one could bring to camp and Coker is one of them. Say this about Alabama QBs, they aren't flashy but they find ways to win and so does Coker.

HPF Bob

03-11-2016, 05:51 PM

Now that we have Osweiler in the fold, look who falls to us at #22? (Fanspeak, Walter Football 3/11 board). If he's there, you gotta take him.

Not many good trade offers, but I had one.

22: R1P22 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA STATE
52: R2P21 DT AUSTIN JOHNSON PENN STATE
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
147: R5P8 DE CHARLES TAPPER OKLAHOMA
159: R5P20 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY
166: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
189: R6P11 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
198: R6P20 C MIKE MATTHEWS TEXAS A&M

TRADE PARTNER:
MIAMI DOLPHINS
SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 5 PICK: 8
ROUND: 6 PICK: 11

HPF Bob

03-14-2016, 01:21 PM

Here's an interesting one. I couldn't trade up or down in the first round. Paxton Lynch was there and I was tempted to take him but I don't want to have Osweiler start his Houston career with another QB controversy.

I later traded out of the third round because I was offered a 4th, two 5ths and a 6th.

22: R1P22 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
115: R4P16 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
120: R4P21 OLB ERIC STRIKER OKLAHOMA
144: R5P4 DT ANTWAUN WOODS USC
155: R5P15 WR KENNY LAWLER CALIFORNIA
160: R5P20 S DEON BUSH MIAMI (FL)
167: R5P27 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE
195: R6P19 CB KEVON SEYMOUR USC
196: R6P20 K ROBERT AGUAYO FLORIDA ST

I added two impact LBs for the time we want to move on from Cushing and Clowney. Kelly has a chance to start as a rookie. Vannett is one of those flex-type TEs who can make use in various formations.

Cardale Jones??? Are you crazy?? Well, hear me out. He's a very raw talent but he dominated briefly and I would try to groom him as a "slash" player who could play RB, WR and throw passes from exotic formations while being the emergency QB. The dude is a load to bring down and I think he could be stashed on the practice squad while he learns.

Notice how almost all these guys are players on winning programs expected to win most of the time. I think they'd help fill out our roster in ways that one showcase player would not do.

TRADE PARTNER:
OAKLAND RAIDERS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 16
ROUND: 5 PICK: 4
ROUND: 5 PICK: 15
ROUND: 6 PICK: 19

Comments?

chuck

03-14-2016, 01:34 PM

I would pick Cardale Jones in the fifth round (or later) without a second thought.

Notice how almost all these guys are players on winning programs expected to win most of the time.

This I think is under-appreciated. I would much rather take my chances with a Louis Nix than some goofy Casserly project from SE Indiana Tech. The guys from the big schools on balance get better coaching and practice and play against a much higher level of competition.

Of course watch Wentz and Lynch come out and perform far better than Goff and Cook.

HPF Bob

03-15-2016, 01:57 AM

Everybody wants another Ben Roethlisberger (Bowling Green) or Joe Flacco (Delaware). Where did Favre play college ball? Oh, yeah - Southern Mississippi.

Not poking a hole in your theory but I don't think I can automatically discredit a QB from Memphis or North Dakota St. simply because they aren't among the elite conferences. Only that the dice role is a little bit more against you if you are reaching for small-college players.

chuck

03-15-2016, 02:48 PM

The rapist went to Miami of Ohio. I'm certainly not suggesting writing off small school guys, just saying that I prefer guys from big schools if all else is more or less equal. Better coaching, better competition, better facilities, better nutrition, more acclimation to being on a big stage, etc.

barrett

03-15-2016, 07:44 PM

painekiller

03-16-2016, 07:30 PM

23: R1p23 wr corey coleman baylor
60: R2p29 te hunter henry arkansas
85: R3p22 rb alex collins arkansas
120: R4p21 c max tuerk southern california
122: R4p23 dt matt ioannidis temple
128: R4p29 te tyler higbee western kentucky
153: R5p13 s jayron kearse clemson
160: R5p20 qb cardale jones ohio state
196: R6p20 g denver kirkland arkansas
197: R6p21 rb aaron green tcu

trade partner: New orleans saints sent:
Round: 7 pick: 22
round: 5 pick: 27
texans received:
Round: 5 pick: 13

trade partner: New england patriots sent:
Round: 2 pick: 21
texans received:
Round: 2 pick: 29
round: 4 pick: 29
round: 6 pick: 21
round: 7 pick: 22

trade partner: Minnesota vikings sent:
Round: 1 pick: 22
texans received:
Round: 1 pick: 23
round: 4 pick: 23

HPF Bob

03-17-2016, 09:37 AM

I'd be happy with this. IMO, there's no "got to" player out there at #22 unless we just get lucky so a trade down for multiple picks in rounds 2-5 is the way to maximize this draft.

painekiller

03-18-2016, 09:46 AM

No trades, CBS list

22: R1P22 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
160: R5P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
167: R5P27 TE TEMARRICK HEMINGWAY SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
196: R6P20 DT ADAM GOTSIS GEORGIA TECH

I am thinking one of the two DT goes to NT and one to 3-4 DE.

I like Coleman, but I could also have gone with Fuller. I go back and forth on taking two TE, and if I were to do that I would have dropped ILB Vigil for TE Tyler Higbee.

Lastly I keep wondering if I am the only person that Ioannidis?

HPF Bob

03-18-2016, 10:38 AM

I'm thinking Houston's best position is to trade down and get more second-day talent.

At this point, if I can get a 3-for-1 to trade down that includes a high 2nd, 3rd and 4th, that's better to me. Walter Football's boards are a bit whacked from the others so good talent is available late. Combining both of these led to a draft that is probably too good to be true. Note, I traded down one spot in the second for a fifth then used that pick as bait to move up on Day 3 when Alex Collins was still available.

35: R2P4 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
53: R2P22 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
66: R3P3 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
100: R4P1 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
160: R5P20 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
167: R5P27 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
196: R6P20 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 4
ROUND: 3 PICK: 3
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4

TRADE PARTNER:
WASHINGTON REDSKINS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22
ROUND: 5 PICK: 19

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4
ROUND: 5 PICK: 19

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1

I actually had my choice of OT Conklin or DE Bullard at 2/4 and went with the OT with an eye on dumping Brown or Newton in the near future. The QBs disappeared fast so I got Hackenberg when he was the last of the six left. Still, I added other guys I see mentioned in first-round mocks like Coleman and Kelly and still had room in the 4th for Collins and Vannett so the offense got a major upgrade. Unfortunately, I didn't help the D-line like I intended but we can hopefully re-sign Crick and the coaches are high on Covington from last year's draft who came on late in the season.

painekiller

03-18-2016, 03:21 PM

painekiller

03-18-2016, 03:35 PM

Same list as Bob.

22: R1P22 WR WILLIAM FULLER NOTRE DAME
66: R3P3 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME
85: R3P22 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
103: R4P4 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE
160: R5P20 DT ADAM GOTSIS GEORGIA TECH
167: R5P27 OT COLE TONER HARVARD
180: R6P4 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
196: R6P20 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 3
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4
ROUND: 6 PICK: 4

HPF Bob

03-18-2016, 03:39 PM

Honestly, I think the Broncos, if they can't land Kaepernick or Fitzpatrick, almost have to land a competent QB in the first round to back up Sanchez. If so, they would be wrong to stand pat at #31 and hope Lynch falls to them. I could easily see the Broncos trading up with us and giving us #31 and #63. But I'd still fall into the upper second for a 2nd, 3rd and 4th if given a chance. I think we have so many holes to fill that owning 5 picks in the first two days is better than having three picks with one at #22. But that's just me.

painekiller

03-19-2016, 02:47 PM

Trade down, trade down, trade down...
And i think i over traded down.

35: R2P4 WR WILL FULLER NOTRE DAME
59: R2P28 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
93: R3P30 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
94: R3P31 OLB SU'A CRAVENS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
103: R4P4 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
120: R4P21 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
127: R4P28 DT HASSAN RIDGEWAY TEXAS
129: R4P30 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
160: R5P20 OT WILLIE BEAVERS WESTERN MICHIGAN
163: R5P23 S ELIJAH SHUMATE NOTRE DAME
166: R5P26 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO STATE
167: R5P27 WR JORDAN PAYTON UCLA
168: R5P28 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON
180: R6P4 C ISAAC SEUMALO OREGON STATE
196: R6P20 RB KENYAN DRAKE ALABAMA
199: R6P23 WR CAYLEB JONES ARIZONA

TRADE PARTNER:
ARIZONA CARDINALS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

Texans RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30
ROUND: 5 PICK: 28

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29

Texans RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 3 PICK: 31

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN DIEGO CHARGERS GET:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30

Texans RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 4
ROUND: 4 PICK: 4
ROUND: 6 PICK: 4
ROUND: 6 PICK: 23

TRADE PARTNER:
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GET:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

Texans RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 28
ROUND: 4 PICK: 28
ROUND: 5 PICK: 23
ROUND: 5 PICK: 26

To many guys to keep them all.

HPF Bob

03-19-2016, 04:06 PM

Actually not a bad draft but I would have done more about the front 7 in the later rounds. That's where I shop for ILBs and safeties. They normally can stick as STers if they don't start.

HPF Bob

03-19-2016, 04:50 PM

I traded down again with the CBS board although I could have had Ezie Elliott, Lynch or an OT if I had stayed. I didn't get the great trade-down offers I wanted but I added a couple of 4ths that picked up some sliding talent.

37: R2P6 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
100: R4P1 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
106: R4P7 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE
120: R4P21 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
160: R5P20 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
167: R5P27 G DENVER KIRKLAND ARKANSAS
196: R6P20 DT ANTWAUN WOODS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 1
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 1

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 6
ROUND: 4 PICK: 7

painekiller

03-21-2016, 11:37 AM

CBS list

I just got faster, much faster in the slot and on the outside.

22: R1P22 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
52: R2P21 WR WILL FULLER NOTRE DAME
104: R4P5 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
120: R4P21 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
147: R5P7 OT WILLIE BEAVERS WESTERN MICHIGAN
160: R5P20 S KJ DILLON WEST VIRGINIA
167: R5P27 S DEANDRE HOUSTON-CARSON WILLIAM & MARY
196: R6P20 DT ADAM GOTSIS GEORGIA TECH
202: R6P26 G JOE DAHL WASHINGTON STATE

Only one trade down: Gave up an OC for an OT, OG and a RB
TRADE PARTNER:
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22 (C NICK MARTIN )

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 5 (RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS)
ROUND: 5 PICK: 7 (OT WILLIE BEAVERS WESTERN MICHIGAN)
ROUND: 6 PICK: 26 (G JOE DAHL WASHINGTON STATE)

HPF Bob

03-21-2016, 01:05 PM

The newest big board was Bleacher Report (which is garbage) but it is always fun working with a board you have no familiarity with. Somehow, I never got a trade offer to my liking but a lot of guys fell that were below where I think they'll actually be picked:

22: R1P22 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
120: R4P21 RB DERRICK HENRY ALABAMA
160: R5P20 DE CARL NASSIB PENN STATE
167: R5P27 OLB ERIC STRIKER OKLAHOMA
196: R6P20 CB JONATHAN JONES AUBURN

I guess I could call this my "Roll Tide" draft. No receivers in this draft but you have to grab the value that's out there.

painekiller

03-21-2016, 05:27 PM

CBS list again. Lots of trade down and a future 2nd given away. To many picks to be functional.

34: R2P3 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
60: R2P29 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE
68: R3P5 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 WR BRAXTON MILLER OHIO STATE
91: R3P28 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
102: R4P3 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON
120: R4P21 CB JONATHAN JONES AUBURN
124: R4P25 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU
160: R5P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
167: R5P27 G ISAAC SEUMALO OREGON STATE
190: R6P14 RB AARON GREEN TCU
196: R6P20 TE HENRY KRIEGER COBLE IOWA
197: R6P21 OLB IAN SEAU NEVADA
205: R6P29 G JOE DAHL WASHINGTON STATE
230: R7P8 K KA'IMI FAIRBAIRN UCLA
247: R7P25 QB CODY KESSLER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

TRADE PARTNER:
SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 2 PICK
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 5

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 27
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 29
ROUND: 6 PICK: 21
ROUND: 6 PICK: 29

TRADE PARTNER:
DALLAS COWBOYS SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 28
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 3
ROUND: 4 PICK: 3
ROUND: 6 PICK: 14

TRADE PARTNER:
PITTSBURGH STEELERS SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 27
ROUND: 4 PICK: 25
ROUND: 7 PICK: 8
ROUND: 7 PICK: 25

TRADE PARTNER:
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 28
ROUND: 3 PICK: 28

15 picks, no way you can keep them all. So way to many trade downs. What becomes obvious is that DT
s are strong early, WR are strong in the middle, and the LBs coming out of the college ranks are not geared to the NFL game (danged spread offenses).

painekiller

03-21-2016, 08:13 PM

Bleacher Report: Some new names and new priorities at the top. If you take a Conklin, he can play LT or RT, OTs then can be Brown, Conklin. Newton can move to OG with Allen, and Su'a-Filo move to OC. It's a thought. If Brown is not ready at the start of the season they have coverage.

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
52: R2P21 OLB SU'A CRAVENS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
85: R3P22 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
120: R4P21 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
160: R5P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
167: R5P27 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH
196: R6P20 S TYVIS POWELL OHIO STATE

painekiller

03-22-2016, 12:23 AM

Walters List, seems to have some guys upside down from my list.

30: R1P30 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/vernon-butler?id=2555243)
52: R2P21 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/corey-coleman?id=2555333)
62: R2P31 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/hunter-henry?id=2555341)
85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/ryan-kelly?id=2555191)
100: R4P1 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jonathan-williams?id=2555227)
114: R4P15 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jayron-kearse?id=2555156)
167: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/cyrus-jones?id=2555380)
196: R6P20 RB AARON GREEN TCU (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/aaron-green?id=2555217)
224: R7P2 QB VERNON ADAMS OREGON (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/vernon-adams?id=2555428)

I made some moves:

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 3 PICK

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1
ROUND: 7 PICK: 2

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 2 PICK: 31

TRADE PARTNER:
TENNESSEE TITANS SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 21
ROUND: 5 PICK: 20

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 15

The above links go to NFL.com summary of each player.

nunusguy

03-22-2016, 09:07 AM

Bleacher Report: Some new names and new priorities at the top. If you take a Conklin, he can play LT or RT, OTs then can be Brown, Conklin. Newton can move to OG with Allen, and Su'a-Filo move to OC. It's a thought. If Brown is not ready at the start of the season they have coverage.

Short of trading their top pick for multiple mid-round picks, OT is a real possibility for the #22 given the uncertainty they have with Brown at LT this year and even if he's completely healthy he's getting to be a vet who's been around quite awhile now so it's time anyway to start grooming a replacement especially with us now having a really big investment at QB.

Nconroe

03-22-2016, 10:57 AM

Walters List, seems to have some guys upside down from my list.

30: R1P30 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/vernon-butler?id=2555243)
52: R2P21 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/corey-coleman?id=2555333)
62: R2P31 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/hunter-henry?id=2555341)
85: R3P22 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/ryan-kelly?id=2555191)
100: R4P1 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jonathan-williams?id=2555227)
114: R4P15 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jayron-kearse?id=2555156)
167: R5P27 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/cyrus-jones?id=2555380)
196: R6P20 RB AARON GREEN TCU (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/aaron-green?id=2555217)
224: R7P2 QB VERNON ADAMS OREGON (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/vernon-adams?id=2555428)

The above links go to NFL.com summary of each player.

I like the links so we can look up details on each player quick and easy.

HPF Bob

03-22-2016, 12:28 PM

I was disappointed I couldn't trade down in the first round but I took one offer in the second for two thirds. This is the Fanspeak 3/15 board.

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
77: R3P14 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
79: R3P16 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE
85: R3P22 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
120: R4P21 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
160: R5P20 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
167: R5P27 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
196: R6P20 DE CHARLES TAPPER OKLAHOMA

TRADE PARTNER:
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 14
ROUND: 3 PICK: 16

painekiller

03-22-2016, 03:09 PM

I like the links so we can look up details on each player quick and easy.

I thought of cutting the entire page for each player but that was to cumbersome. So I added the links, glad you enjoyed it.

BTW those are Lance Zeirlien's breakdowns on the players.

popanot

03-23-2016, 12:16 PM

I was disappointed I couldn't trade down in the first round but I took one offer in the second for two thirds. This is the Fanspeak 3/15 board.

85: R3P22 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
By all appearances, Hackenberg will be lucky to be drafted. Considering that and the fact we signed Osweiler, I wouldn't burn a pick on Hack until very late in the draft, if at all. In fact, I think the worst thing we could do is draft a QB (certainly one fairly early) this year and have all the fickle fans calling for him at the slightest hint of a struggle from Osweiler. Might be better off going with Savage, a vet or a late RD QB for this year and let Os have his day without rookie QB crap hanging over his shoulder.

painekiller

03-23-2016, 01:02 PM

By all appearances, Hackenberg will be lucky to be drafted. Considering that and the fact we signed Osweiler, I wouldn't burn a pick on Hack until very late in the draft, if at all. In fact, I think the worst thing we could do is draft a QB (certainly one fairly early) this year and have all the fickle fans calling for him at the slightest hint of a struggle from Osweiler. Might be better off going with Savage, a vet or a late RD QB for this year and let Os have his day without rookie QB crap hanging over his shoulder.

I agree totally. Hack has not shown anything in two years. He might have been better served transferring somewhere that the offense better served him and showing he was not a one year wonder, freshman year no less. As of now, OB does not have to draft a "franchise" QB early, and that will hurt Hack with the Texans.

I cannot say how many mocks I have done where a solid QB is available and I have walked right past him to a position of higher need. If you want to a flyer on a QB late in the draft, a fifth or later, then I am good with that. I love Adams from Oregon as a UDFA, to give you a camp arm.

The biggest issue I see is reps. The team is going to want to get OS as many reps as possible in OTAs and camp, and they want to hold on to Hoyer to possibly trade to a team that gets hit with an injury for some kind of value. And you have to get him reps, along with Savage. He needs reps. So how can you develop a young guy with no reps.

Also I would not be surprised if they keep Hoyer as a veteran backup. It would give Os another QB to talk to on the sideline and in the room.

popanot

03-23-2016, 02:04 PM

Also I would not be surprised if they keep Hoyer as a veteran backup. It would give Os another QB to talk to on the sideline and in the room.I think keeping Hoyer is a good strategy. We could do far worse at backup QB and it's not like he's all that expensive. I think he'd be good for Os to have around. If they don't feel Savage has a future, then by all means draft a guy like Adams, Hogan or Driskell, etc. late in the draft. I'd rather a have Hoyer and a rookie prospect than hang onto Savage who has zero experience to help out and likely has no starting future.

painekiller

03-23-2016, 02:24 PM

Using the FanSpeak list.

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jack-conklin?id=2555279)
52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/vernon-butler?id=2555243)
70: R3P7 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/nick-martin?id=2555189)
94: R3P31 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/alex-collins?id=2555430)
120: R4P21 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/matthew-ioannidis?id=2555240)
130: R4P31 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/cyrus-jones?id=2555380)
160: R5P20 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/kolby-listenbee?id=2555350)
167: R5P27 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jerell-adams?id=2555311)
183: R6P7 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jonathan-williams?id=2555227)
196: R6P20 WR CAYLEB JONES ARIZONA (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/cayleb-jones?id=2555470)

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 31
ROUND: 4 PICK: 31

TRADE PARTNER:
BALTIMORE RAVENS SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 2 PICK

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 7
ROUND: 6 PICK: 7

Got additional picks with a trade down and a future pick.

This is a solid list in the 2nd 3rd 4th rounds.

Got my Brown insurance, future OT in Conklin, which gives me more versatility along the line, in that same vain I took Martin, and guy that can play OG or OC.

In the 2nd and 4th I took two DTs that can play either NT or 3-4 DE. Both are solid against the run. And showed well at the Senior Bowl in one on ones.

Grabbed both RBs from Arkansas, why not keep them pushing each other, one is a scat back, choppy runner and one is more of a power back. (Maybe time for Blue to move on).

If all Cyrus Jones did on this team was return punts than he would be a steal, but he also is money covering the slot receiver.

Listenbee is a speedster on the outside. And Cayleb Jones is big bodied guy with solid hands. Also has some baggage in his distant past.

Added size and speed to the roster, added guys that can make plays, added some meanness to the OL. Not a bad draft IMO.

HPF Bob

03-24-2016, 12:47 PM

If they intend to keep Hoyer, then they won't draft a QB but I would rather release or trade him and use the cap savings to bring back Jared Crick.

As far as Hackenberg, I'm simply responding to the mutual admiration
O'Brien and Hackenberg have for each other and the belief he will flourish here better than anywhere else.

You don't want someone who directly competes against Ossie this year but someone who can step in if he gets injured or falters. I don't see last year's starter as being the guy for that.

barrett

03-24-2016, 01:35 PM

I don't believe Hoyer is on the roster by the start of OTAs. But the league is so QB starved that trying to get a low draft pick for him is smart right now.

chuck

03-24-2016, 02:33 PM

You don't want someone who directly competes against Ossie this year but someone who can step in if he gets injured or falters. I don't see last year's starter as being the guy for that.

Particularly because we know what that gets us, which is not much. Or certainly not enough. Hoyer is too expensive and potentially too distracting to be the backup I think. And barrett is right, he will find a place in the league and if the Texans can squeeze a 6th or a 7th for him and get his salary off the books then that would be a triumph. The offense will go as far as BO takes it. I have no idea where that will be but I don't see any real point in having a Hoyer over a Savage at backup if a Hoyer is that much more expensive.

I can't remember a year where the mocks were so all over the place with the top five or six quarterbacks. You guys have seen all the mocks, too, and many of you have played with the various lists for your own mocks. It's amazing how one perfectly credible mock will have QB X at 2 overall and another perfectly credible mock will have him at 12 or 22 or whatever. I really thought that by now we'd start to get some clarity and consensus among the mocks but we haven't. Hell, no one even knows what Tennessee's going to do. For me it's far more enjoyable than usual.

HPF Bob

03-27-2016, 10:04 AM

Here's an Easter mock which includes a trade down with Carolina. This used the "With The First Pick" board. Still, a bit disappointed with what it produced.

30: R1P30 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 DE DEFOREST BUCKNER OREGON
85: R3P22 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE
94: R3P31 G VADAL ALEXANDER LSU
120: R4P21 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA
130: R4P31 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY
160: R5P20 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
167: R5P27 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
169: R5P29 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE
196: R6P20 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 3 PICK: 31
ROUND: 4 PICK: 31
ROUND: 5 PICK: 29

Roy P

03-27-2016, 10:00 PM

22 C Ryan Kelly
52 WR Sterling Shepard
85 S Sean Davis
120 CB Cyrus Jones
160 WR Malcolm Mitchell
167 OLB Yannick Ngakoue
196 WR Keyarris Garrett

I think that the "Composite" board is most realistic. I find it useless to be able to draft Derrick Henry in the3rd round.

HPF Bob

03-30-2016, 02:41 AM

Every Tuesday means a new Fanspeak board and some very generous tradedowns led to a pretty sweet haul:

32: R2P1 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
41: R2P10 WR COREY COLEMAN BAYLOR
85: R3P22 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
92: R3P29 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
119: R4P21 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
128: R4P30 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE
159: R5P20 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
166: R5P27 DT ANTWAUN WOODS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
167: R5P28 DE ANTHONY ZETTEL PENN STATE
195: R6P20 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY

TRADE PARTNER:
ARIZONA CARDINALS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29
ROUND: 3 PICK: 29
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30
ROUND: 5 PICK: 28

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 1
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1

TRADE PARTNER:
CHICAGO BEARS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 10

painekiller

03-30-2016, 07:57 PM

HPF Bob

03-31-2016, 01:20 AM

Never heard of Optimum Scouting and I have to scratch my head at some of their rankings but, with a couple of trade downs, I managed a nice group:

33: R2P2 ILB REGGIE RAGLAND ALABAMA
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
64: R3P1 S VONN BELL OHIO STATE
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
113: R4P15 RB DEVONTAE BOOKER UTAH
119: R4P21 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
121: R4P23 DT JONATHAN BULLARD FLORIDA
159: R5P20 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH
160: R5P21 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE
166: R5P27 WR DEMARCUS AYERS HOUSTON
195: R6P20 G VADAL ALEXANDER LSU

TRADE PARTNER:
MINNESOTA VIKINGS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 23
ROUND: 4 PICK: 23
ROUND: 5 PICK: 21

TRADE PARTNER:
TENNESSEE TITANS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 23

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 2
ROUND: 3 PICK: 1
ROUND: 4 PICK: 15

nunusguy

03-31-2016, 07:23 AM

Roy P

03-31-2016, 09:21 AM

I don't think Jonathan Bullard lasts until the 4th round either.

HPF Bob

03-31-2016, 09:38 AM

Neither do I. But that's why you try multiple boards multiple times because "you never know". I don't think we can get 4-for-1 trade downs either but they are so hard to resist.

HPF Bob

04-02-2016, 10:04 AM

I'm hoping another round of board updates comes out soon because this is using a CBS board from 3/22..

Now that I know we are set at QB and probably not using a high pick on a developmental QB, here's my latest with trade downs:

30: R1P30 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 DT AUSTIN JOHNSON PENN STATE
71: R3P8 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
109: R4P11 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
119: R4P21 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
159: R5P20 WR CHARONE PEAKE CLEMSON
166: R5P27 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
195: R6P20 S KEANU NEAL FLORIDA

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 2 PICK: 31

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW YORK GIANTS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 31

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 8
ROUND: 4 PICK: 11

Roy P

04-02-2016, 10:56 AM

30: R1P30 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 DT AUSTIN JOHNSON PENN STATE
71: R3P8 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
85: R3P22 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
109: R4P11 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
119: R4P21 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
159: R5P20 WR CHARONE PEAKE CLEMSON
166: R5P27 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
195: R6P20 S KEANU NEAL FLORIDA

If we get Ryan Kelly, Joshua Garnett, Austin Hooper, and Matt Ioannidis; I will be overjoyed. In fact, I would be pretty freaking happy just to see Kelly and Garnett on the O-Line. Nice job with these picks. :D

Roy P

04-02-2016, 11:30 AM

22: R1p22 wr josh docston tcu
54: R2p23 te hunter henry arkansas
92: R3p29 g christian western arizona state
119: R4p21 dt javon hargrave south carolina st
159: R5p20 cb artie burns miami (fl)
160: R5p21 rb cj prosise notre dame
166: R5p27 qb dak prescott mississippi state
167: R5p28 s tyvis powell ohio state
195: R6p20 g joe dahl washington state
245: R7p24 de matt judon grand valley state

trades

trade partner:
Minnesota vikings

sent:
Round: 2 pick: 21

received:
Round: 2 pick: 23
round: 5 pick: 21

trade partner:
Arizona cardinals

sent:
Round: 3 pick: 24

received:
Round: 3 pick: 29
round: 5 pick: 28

trade partner:
Cincinnati bengals

sent:
Round: 3 pick: 22
received:
Round: 3 pick: 24
round: 7 pick: 24

Roy P

04-02-2016, 12:12 PM

52: R2P21 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
53: R2P22 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
84: R3P21 RB KENNETH DIXON LOUISIANA TECH.
111: R4P13 OLB KAMALEI CORREA BOISE ST.
119: R4P21 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
120: R4P22 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
151: R5P12 DT JAVON HARGRAVE S. CAROLINA ST.
158: R5P19 G CONNOR MCGOVERN MISSOURI
159: R5P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
166: R5P27 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
169: R5P30 C GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN
191: R6P16 CB KEIVARAE RUSSELL NOTRE DAME
195: R6P20 WR CODY CORE OLE MISS
TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
WASHINGTON REDSKINS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22
ROUND: 3 PICK: 21
ROUND: 4 PICK: 22
ROUND: 5 PICK: 19

TRADE PARTNER:
DETROIT LIONS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 13
ROUND: 5 PICK: 12
ROUND: 5 PICK: 30
ROUND: 6 PICK: 16

I was hesitant to lose a first round pick but believe that I could get value in the middle rounds. Ryan Kelly came off the board at #21. Conklin was still there and was selected at #30. Doctson came off the board at #32. Overall, I was pleased with the GROUP.

Roy P

04-02-2016, 01:26 PM

27: R1p27 lb darron lee ohio state
52: R2p21 wr sterling shepard oklahoma
88: R3p25 g christian westernman arizona state
111: R4p13 de carl nassib penn state
119: R4p21 rb kenneth dixon louisiana tech
125: R4p27 olb charles tapper oklahoma
151: R5p12 dt javon hargrave south carolina state
159: R5p20 te tyler higbee western kentucky
166: R5p27 wr malcolm mitchell georgia
169: R5p30 g joe dahl washington state
191: R6p16 qb kevin hogan stanford
195: R6p20 g joe thuney nc state

trades

trade partner:
Detroit lions

sent:
Round: 3 pick: 22

received:
Round: 4 pick: 13
round: 5 pick: 12
round: 5 pick: 30
round: 6 pick: 16

trade partner:
Green bay packers

sent:
Round: 1 pick: 22

received:
Round: 1 pick: 27
round: 3 pick: 25
round: 4 pick: 27

HPF Bob

04-02-2016, 04:30 PM

I found Arrowhead's board the most realistic of the three, which was a surprise.

Roy P

04-02-2016, 07:38 PM

TRADES
TRADE PARTNER:
LA RAMS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
ROUND: 4 PICK: 21
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 13
TRADE PARTNER:
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 28
ROUND: 4 PICK: 28
ROUND: 5 PICK: 23
ROUND: 5 PICK: 26

28: R1P28 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
52: R2P21 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
76: R3P13 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
126: R4P28 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
159: R5P20 RB KENYAN DRAKE ALABAMA
162: R5P23 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
165: R5P26 S TYVIS POWELL OHIO STATE
166: R5P27 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
195: R6P20 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD

I was happy to trade down with KC and get extra picks. Darron Lee was off the board @ #19. Ryan Kelly was selected @ #26, but I got my favorite LT not named Tunsil. Adding Garnett upgrades the OL. I moved up to select the first TE off the board @ #76. Vannett went @ #81 and Higbee went @ #88. I missed out on WRs Doctson #30, Thomas #31, Shepard #36, Mitchell #120, Garrett #153. Drake can spell Lamar Miller and brings Return ability. Martinez is not fast, but he is a tackling machine. Powell will be a starting Safety in the league. Collins was a surprise and is one of My Guys, but not one of my Favorites. However, I couldn't pass on his talent in the 5th round. Collins and Ioannidis augment the D-Line. Kevin Hogan makes trading Hoyer an easy decision.

Roy P

04-02-2016, 08:12 PM

Traded future picks to get back into the late rounds....

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
OAKLAND RAIDERS

SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 6 PICK
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 7 PICK: 13

TRADE PARTNER:
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 5 PICK
RECEIVED:

ROUND: 7 PICK: 4
22: R1P22 ILB DARRON LEE OHIO STATE (My Top Favorite)
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA (The guy I thought I would have to pick #22)
85: R3P22 DE CARL NASSIB PENN STATE (Replaces Crick)
119: R4P21 RB DERRICK HENRY ALABAMA (Really? Still on the board? OK!)
159: R5P20 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA (Needed a WR)
166: R5P27 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE (My NT of the Future)
195: R6P20 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA (Needed a TE)
225: R7P4 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA (Big RedZone Target)
234: R7P13 G JOE THUNEY NC STATE (Athletic and Versatile)

Roy P

04-03-2016, 12:25 AM

22: R1p22 ot jack conklin michigan st.
55: R2p24 dt jarran reed alabama
85: R3p22 g joshua garnett stanford
119: R4p21 olb kamalei correa boise st.
122: R4p24 s sean davis maryland
159: R5p20 de bronson kaufusi brigham young
166: R5p27 wr malcolm mitchell georgia
195: R6p20 wr keyarris garrett tulsa
223: R7p2 rb daniel lasco california
224: R7p3 qb kevin hogan stanford
243: R7p22 olb victor ochi stony brook

trades

trade partner:
San diego chargers

sent:
Future round 6 pick

received:
Round: 7 pick: 3

trade partner:
Cincinnati bengals

sent:
Round: 2 pick: 21

received:
Round: 2 pick: 24
round: 4 pick: 24

trade partner:
New england patriots

sent:
Future round 7 pick
received:round: 7 pick: 22

trade partner:
Cleveland browns

sent:
Future round 6 pick

received:
Round: 7 pick: 2

HPF Bob

04-03-2016, 01:40 AM

Look what fell out of the sky!!

Here's why you mock. Sometimes, the unexpected happens and you have to ask yourself "what will I do?". I used the Fanspeak board but, at 22, I was given several appealing choices:

Conklin, a legit LT to plug in when Brown gets injured or needs to be cut.
Ragland, the ILB who can be like Patrick Willis and would allow you to drop Cushing's contract after next year.
Kelly, the OC I have wanted all along and...
Carson Wentz!! - one of the top 2 QBs in the draft!

Ok, so we have Osweiler now and this would create controversy but we may never get a chance to draft a QB like this again. You gotta take him, right?

Well, I tried to trade down with Denver - no dice. Tried to trade down with the 49ers - not interested. Cleveland had taken Goff. Philly had no 2nds. The Jets would have been falling too far.

So after giving it much thought I went with value. I took Wentz. Fortunately, Kelly was still there in the second but I had to alter my draft because I did not have the trade chips I wanted to add more picks. I swapped my third with Baltimore for a pair of fourths and liked overall, what I had done:

22: R1P22 QB CARSON WENTZ NORTH DAKOTA STATE
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
104: R4P6 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY
119: R4P21 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA
130: R4P32 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
159: R5P20 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
166: R5P27 DT ANTWAUN WOODS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
195: R6P20 G CONNOR MCGOVERN MISSOURI

TRADE PARTNER:
BALTIMORE RAVENS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 6
ROUND: 4 PICK: 32

We'll have to shop for DE, WR and ILB among the UDFAs. Somehow, I don't think Rick Smith will face this dilemma.

Roy P

04-03-2016, 08:09 AM

I would have taken Wentz too. There's only so many players who I would take over Paxton Lynch. Osweiler hasn't proven anything yet.

HPF Bob

04-03-2016, 10:19 AM

He's proven more than Wentz. But if the Texans drafted Wentz, I would make him #3 behind Weeden to start the year and let him know he's not ready and is getting trained for '17. Next year, we'll have a better feel for Osweiler and make it an open competition. In '18, we can trade either QB without a large cap hit and possibly for a big draft haul in return.

Roy P

04-03-2016, 12:22 PM

I understand the value of having the bird in hand and I believe that's the reason why we had to sign Oweiler. There's no way of knowing for sure that we could get one of these 'Potential Franchise QBs' in the draft. It's not my money, but it is awfully expensive to have a guy with very limited starts in the NFL. I'm having flashbacks of Matt Flynn. That being said, I hope that signing Brock doesn't preclude the team from drafting a QB if one falls in our laps.

Roy P

04-03-2016, 12:44 PM

38: R2P7 DT JARRAN REED ALABAMA
54: R2P23 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
72: R3P9 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
93: R3P30 OLB KAMALEI CORREA BOISE STATE
103: R4P5 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
119: R4P21 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
121: R4P23 QB DAK PRESCOTT MISSISSIPPI STATE
127: R4P29 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA
129: R4P31 CB MAURICE CANADY VIRGINIA
159: R5P20 C GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN
166: R5P27 G CONNOR MCGOVERN MISSOURI
195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
199: R6P24 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
245: R7P24 RB DANIEL LASCO CALIFORNIA

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
CHICAGO BEARS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 1
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 9
ROUND: 4 PICK: 29
TRADE PARTNER:

CINCINNATI BENGALS
SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 6 PICK
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 7 PICK: 24

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30
ROUND: 4 PICK: 31
TRADE PARTNER:
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 2
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 7
ROUND: 4 PICK: 5

TRADE PARTNER:
CINCINNATI BENGALS
SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 5 PICK
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 6 PICK: 24

TRADE PARTNER:
TENNESSEE TITANS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 2
ROUND: 3 PICK: 1

TRADE PARTNER:
MINNESOTA VIKINGS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 23
ROUND: 4 PICK: 23

Nick Vannett went @ #71(R3P8) right before Joshua Garnett. I think I got a bargain in Adams @ #127. I took Glasgow @ #159 when I was trying to decide between him and OT Joe Haeg and Connor McGovern. Hang went @ #160 and I took McGovern @ #166. Hindsight being 20/20 I should have taken Haeg @ #159 and then whoever was left @ #166 to play C since I already had Garnett on the roster. I was surprised that I was able to get Jarran Reed in the 2nd round. Reed and Sterling Shepard have 1st round grades on my draft board, so I was pleased to get them when I did while racking up extra picks. Garnett is my starting RG for the next 8 years. Correa provides insurance when Clowney gets injured and can rotate on passing downs. The prospect of Watt, Reed, and Hargrave is exciting to me. Promise is talented and has a ton of potential receiving out of the backfield. Prescott just needs to keep his nose clean and not be a distraction off the field. I doubt the Texans would draft him, but I've made it be known how I feel about this guy. Canady was a luxury I could afford with all the extra draft picks. At his size, he could potentially be a FS, and having a big CB is always a good thing to have in the tool box. Garrett and Mitchell are my favorite WRs that nobody is talking about and I want them on the roster. I grabbed Lasco for his speed and return ability. I realize that I have a lot of bodies from this draft, but that's less UDFAs I have to call.

Roy P

04-03-2016, 07:55 PM

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
91: R3P28 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
119: R4P21 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
159: R5P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
166: R5P27 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
195: R6P20 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD
196: R6P21 RB KENYAN DRAKE ALABAMA

TRADE

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 28
ROUND: 6 PICK: 21

Really happy with this draft. Attempted to get a couple more picks in the 3rd round but was unable to. I would have liked to have been able to get Bronson Kaufusi to play DE when he came off the board at #85 and NT Maliek Collins at # 74. Overall, I can't complain too much. Conklin and Kelly on the OL is amazing. Vannett is my favorite TE after really studying this group. Hargrove will play the NT. Got my 2 WRs in the 5th round. Got my backup QB and my Change-Of-Pace RB/Returner.

Roy P

04-03-2016, 11:26 PM

49: R2p18 wr sterling shepard oklahoma
52: R2p21 g joshua garnett stanford
80: R3p17 de bronson kaufusi brigham young
99: R4p1 te nick vannett ohio st.
117: R4p19 s sean davis maryland
119: R4p21 ilb kamalei correa boise st.
151: R5p12 dt javon hargrave s. Carolina st.
156: R5p17 ot joe haeg n. Dakota st.
166: R5p27 c graham glasgow michigan
169: R5p30 olb yannick ngakoue maryland
191: R6p16 wr malcolm mitchell georgia
195: R6p20 wr keyarris garrett tulsa

trades

trade partner:
Detroit lions

sent:
Round: 3 pick: 22

received:
Round: 4 pick: 13
round: 5 pick: 12
round: 5 pick: 30
round: 6 pick: 16

trade partner:
Buffalo bills

sent:
Round: 1 pick: 22

received:
Round: 2 pick: 18
round: 3 pick: 17
round: 4 pick: 19
round: 5 pick: 17

trade partner:
Cleveland browns

sent:
Round: 4 pick: 13
round: 5 pick: 20

received:
Round: 4 pick: 1

HPF Bob

04-05-2016, 01:13 AM

Arrowhead was the only board updated so I tried it. At #22, I could have selected Ragland (Kelly was gone) but the Patriots tempted me with two 2nds, a 3rd and a 6th. I took it but that was lower than I wanted to fall so I traded back up in the second and then traded down once more. I got some good players but I've liked some of my other drafts better.

43: R2P12 S VONN BELL OHIO ST.
61: R2P30 DT ROBERT NKEMDICHE OLE MISS
72: R3P9 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
85: R3P22 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
106: R4P8 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
119: R4P21 DT CHRIS JONES MISS. ST.
159: R5P20 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH ST.
166: R5P27 QB CARDALE JONES OHIO ST.
195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
196: R6P21 RB KEITH MARSHALL GEORGIA

Nkemdiche and Chris Jones were just too much value to pass up. Cardale, as I mentioned before, I want to try out as a "slash" player.

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 29
ROUND: 2 PICK: 30
ROUND: 3 PICK: 28
ROUND: 6 PICK: 21

TRADE PARTNER:
CHICAGO BEARS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 29

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 9
ROUND: 4 PICK: 8

TRADE PARTNER:
LA RAMS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
ROUND: 3 PICK: 28

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 12

painekiller

04-07-2016, 07:30 AM

Been out of town, but I'm back now. Another mock utilizing the CBS board. I traded out of the 1st round for two 2nd round picks. I was not sure that I would like the results, but I did. I wanted to give some props to Roy for making me take a look at a couple of the guys I took in this draft. Also my trade down was attempted in order to target a couple of them in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
60: R2P29 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
61: R2P30 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME
91: R3P28 DE JASON FANAIKA UTAH
119: R4P21 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU
159: R5P20 S KJ DILLON WEST VIRGINIA
166: R5P27 CB BRIEAN BODDY-CALHOUN MINNESOTA
195: R6P20 OLB DADI LHOMME NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH
196: R6P21 TE HENRY KRIEGER COBLE IOWA

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

TEXANS RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 29
ROUND: 2 PICK: 30
ROUND: 3 PICK: 28
ROUND: 6 PICK: 21

Butler has been high on my list since I watched him at the Senior Bowl. Garnett has a mean streak and seems to fit the proto type guy that Mike Devlin likes to coach. I have not been targeting Garnett in some time, but Roy made a post recently that returned him to a target for me.
Having Hunter sitting there at 61 was surprising to me and I jumped, he has the potential to be the best TE the Texans have had since Owen Daniels was in his prime. Next I took my 2nd rated OC, a hole that is begging to be filled.
this gives me a OL of Brown, Allen, Martin, Garnett, Hopkins. Su'a-Filo either steps up and beats out one of the rookies or he backs up two positions (OC,OG) either way he moves on when his rookie deal expires.
Next pick was another one of Roys guys Fanaika, I have to agree with Roy, he looks like a young JJ. I'm not saying he has the upside of JJ, but no one knew JJ had that upside, and Fanaika is only a late 3rd round pick.

I was not sold on trading out of the 1st round, but I was impressed with the three 2nd rounders I got. All three have been discussed as possible 1st rounders this off season. And my two 3rd rounder I would not have been upset if I had drafted them in the 2nd. So five players in the top 100, I could get on board with that.

HPF Bob

04-07-2016, 08:52 AM

Unless a few stud players fall, trading seems like our best option. There are maybe five or so players I would still choose at #22 but the gift of having additional 2nds and 3rds generally outweigh them. I'd be okay with a draft like this.

Who's your Dadi? :p

HPF Bob

04-07-2016, 09:36 AM

I tried the Fanspeak board (4/5) and it was Trade-a-Palooza. The Bengals wanted me to trade down to #24, then the Seahawks wanted me to trade down to #26 then the Panthers wanted me to trade down to #30, picking up extra selections along the way which I then used to trade up with the Rams in Round 2 and trade up with the Saints in Round 3. Finally, I traded down one spot in the 3rd with Philadelphia to pocket an extra sixth. In the end, I got everything covered except a DE to replace Crick.

30: R1P30 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
43: R2P12 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
79: R3P16 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
85: R3P22 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
124: R4P26 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA
159: R5P20 ILB BENIQUEZ BROWN MISSISSIPPI STATE
166: R5P27 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
188: R6P13 WR BRALON ADDISON OREGON
195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
225: R7P4 S JORDAN LUCAS PENN STATE

TRADE PARTNER:
CINCINNATI BENGALS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 24
ROUND: 3 PICK: 24

TRADE PARTNER:
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 24
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 26
ROUND: 4 PICK: 26
ROUND: 7 PICK: 4

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 26
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30

TRADE PARTNER:
LA RAMS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 12

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 24
ROUND: 4 PICK: 21
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 15

TRADE PARTNER:
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 15
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 16
ROUND: 6 PICK: 13

painekiller

04-07-2016, 11:09 AM

Been out of town, but I'm back now. Another mock utilizing the CBS board. I traded out of the 1st round for two 2nd round picks. I was not sure that I would like the results, but I did. I wanted to give some props to Roy for making me take a look at a couple of the guys I took in this draft. Also my trade down was attempted in order to target a couple of them in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
60: R2P29 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
61: R2P30 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS
85: R3P22 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME
91: R3P28 DE JASON FANAIKA UTAH
119: R4P21 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU
159: R5P20 S KJ DILLON WEST VIRGINIA
166: R5P27 CB BRIEAN BODDY-CALHOUN MINNESOTA
195: R6P20 OLB DADI LHOMME NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH
196: R6P21 TE HENRY KRIEGER COBLE IOWA

Had some new guys added to my draft above, so here is the list with links with their draft profile from NFL.com

52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/vernon-butler?id=2555243)
60: R2P29 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/joshua-garnett?id=2555138)
61: R2P30 TE HUNTER HENRY ARKANSAS (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/hunter-henry?id=2555341)
85: R3P22 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/nick-martin?id=2555189)
91: R3P28 DE JASON FANAIKA UTAH (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/jason-fanaika?id=2555247)
119: R4P21 WR KOLBY LISTENBEE TCU (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/kolby-listenbee?id=2555350)
159: R5P20 S KJ DILLON WEST VIRGINIA (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/k.j.-dillon?id=2555372)
166: R5P27 CB BRIEAN BODDY-CALHOUN MINNESOTA (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/briean-boddy-calhoun?id=2555172)
195: R6P20 OLB DADI LHOMME NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/dadi-nicolas?id=2555254)
196: R6P21 TE HENRY KRIEGER COBLE IOWA (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/henry-krieger%20coble?id=2555363)

Roy P

04-07-2016, 05:23 PM

39: R2P8 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
74: R3P11 OT JASON SPRIGGS INDIANA
79: R3P16 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BYU
85: R3P22 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
91: R3P28 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
108: R4P10 S VONN BELL OHIO STATE
119: R4P21 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
148: R5P9 RG GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN
159: R5P20 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
166: R5P27 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
195: R6P20 QB CODY KESSLER USC
196: R6P21 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
204: R6P29 RB TRE MADDEN USC
243: R7P22 CB TAVON YOUNG TEMPLE

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 14
ROUND: 3 PICK: 16

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 14

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 28
ROUND: 6 PICK: 21
ROUND: 6 PICK: 29
ROUND: 7 PICK: 22

TRADE PARTNER:
TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 8
ROUND: 3 PICK: 11
ROUND: 4 PICK: 10
ROUND: 5 PICK: 9

I traded out of the first round and still got my guy Ryan Kelly! I was surprised to see Spriggs still sitting there at #74. He is going to take time to develop, but he could potentially become a starting LT in the NFL, so I felt there was value here with his athleticism. Bronson Kaufusi is slowly becoming one of my favorite players in this draft. He is older due to his Mission, but I like what I see and if he and Nassib are unavailable, I don't know who to get to fill in for Crick that I will be happy about. Javon Hargrave is a guy who I consistently draft. I selected 2 TEs and am pleased to do so when it's Vannett and Hooper. Von Bell is a guy I've seen projected as a 2nd rounder and I have a hard time buying that. However, if available at #108....I've decided to add him to My Guys. I got Malcolm Mitchell again. Feel really good about adding Kelly, Spriggs, and Glasgow to the OL group. Nick Vigil is going to be a good/solid NFL ILB and I'm preparing for the day when Cushing is no longer a Texan. Keyarris Garrett always shows up on my draft classes. Kevin Hogan came off the board @ #185 and with so many picks from trading down, I decided to get a game manager who lacks size, but makes up for it with intelligence and accuracy. Maybe I watched too many USC games, but I like this kid as a solid back-up who is much cheaper than Hoyer. I wanted a RB and Tre Madden was the guy with size/speed (6'0" 220lbs/7.09-Cone and 4.27-Shuttle) and still on the board (again, I watched some USC games). Tavon Young is only 5' 9 1/8" 183lbs, but I think he could play the slot. He has very good quickness (6.80-Cone and 3.93-Shuttle.

Roy P

04-07-2016, 07:09 PM

Wow! This was my hardest MOCK Draft to date. I constantly looked at my board and tried to determine who I should take because I had players ranked closely and wondered who might fall to the next round or if I might trade down and still be able to make selections of MY Guys.
31: R1P31 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN ST
57: R2P26 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BYU
63: R2P32 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
85: R3P22 NT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
119: R4P21 TE TYLER HIGBEE W KENTUCKY
125: R4P27 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
159: R5P20 S T.J. GREEN CLEMSON
163: R5P24 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
166: R5P27 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
195: R6P20 OLB DADI NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
DENVER BRONCOS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 31
ROUND: 2 PICK: 32

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 26
ROUND: 4 PICK: 27
ROUND: 5 PICK: 24

I wanted extra picks so I took a leap of faith that I would get a good player and was pleased to have Conklin sitting there for me. Then I struggled to determine who I would take next, luckily I snagged Kaufusi, Garnett, and Collins with my next 3 selections. I needed a TE so moved Higbee up my board over Malcolm Mitchell and luckily was still able to get him later. When I got to pick #125 I contemplated taking Jordan Howard, but since I had Prosise ranked higher, I stuck to my board. All the good S prospects were gone except for TJ Green so I was forced to take him and hoped to get my WR, which I did with the next pick. At #166 I could have gone for another need position, but took Matt Ioannidis anyway because he was the BPA with a 3rd round grade in the 5th round. Lastly, I selected Dadi Nicolas to be a pass-rushing specialist.

I highly recommend to anyone to utilize the DraftTek database. It was definitely challenging and close to what I believe will be an actual draft class grade.

Roy P

04-07-2016, 09:29 PM

26: R1P26 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
58: R2P27 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
85: R3P22 NT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
90: R3P27 OT JOE HAEG NORTH DAKOTA ST
119: R4P21 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
120: R4P22 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
123: R4P25 TE TYLER HIGBEE W KENTUCKY
159: R5P20 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
166: R5P27 OLB JAMES COWSER SOUTHERN UTAH
195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
229: R7P8 QB CODY KESSLER USC

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 26
ROUND: 3 PICK: 27

TRADE PARTNER:
PITTSBURGH STEELERS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 27
ROUND: 4 PICK: 25
ROUND: 7 PICK: 8

TRADE PARTNER:
WASHINGTON REDSKINS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 22
ROUND: 4 PICK: 22

Had the 21st and 22nd picks in the 2nd round and I regret trading both of them for extra picks. Kaufusi went with the 24th pick in the 2nd. Otherwise, pretty happy with my haul. No RG is a bummer. Maybe I get Karras as a UDFA. Would really like to see my Combo of FS/SS that I got in the 4th round.

Roy P

04-08-2016, 09:09 PM

39: R2P8 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BYU
74: R3P11 OT JASON SPRIGGS INDIANA
92: R3P29 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
99: R4P1 RB DERRICK HENRY ALABAMA
104: R4P6 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
148: R5P9 OLB KYLER FACKRELL UTAH STATE
166: R5P27 ILB NICK VIGIL UTAH STATE
223: R7P2 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS

SENT:
FUTURE ROUND 5 PICK

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 7 PICK: 2

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS

SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 21
ROUND: 5 PICK: 20
ROUND: 6 PICK: 20

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1

TRADE PARTNER:
BALTIMORE RAVENS

SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30
ROUND: 5 PICK: 28
ROUND: 6 PICK: 20

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 6

TRADE PARTNER:
ARIZONA CARDINALS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 14

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 29
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30
ROUND: 5 PICK: 28

TRADE PARTNER:
TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 8
ROUND: 3 PICK: 11
ROUND: 4 PICK: 10
ROUND: 5 PICK: 9

TRADE PARTNER:
PHILADELPHIA EAGLES

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
ROUND: 4 PICK: 10

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 14

Traded up for Derrick Henry and Nick Vannett. Then got back into the 7th round for Keyarris since I hadn't gotten a WR. I'd be just fine with this draft and feel like my board is starting to solidify.

Roy P

04-08-2016, 10:05 PM

51: R2P20 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
52: R2P21 DE CARL NASSIB PENN STATE
80: R3P17 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
99: R4P1 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
118: R4P20 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
119: R4P2 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
141: R5P2 G GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN 157:
R5P18 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
159: R5P20 TE TYLER HIGBEE W KENTUCKY
195: R6P20 DE JAMES COWSER SOUTHERN UTAH
223: R7P2 QB CODY KESSLER USC

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW YORK JETS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 20
ROUND: 3 PICK: 20
ROUND: 4 PICK: 20
ROUND: 5 PICK: 18

TRADE PARTNER:
BUFFALO BILLS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
ROUND: 5 PICK: 27

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 17 - Traded UP for Josh Garnett

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 20

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1
ROUND: 5 PICK: 2
ROUND: 7 PICK: 2

HPF Bob

04-09-2016, 11:19 AM

Using the Draftek board and only one trade down, I was able to draft a board I'd be thrilled to have although several of these I expect to be selected earlier than where I have them. Realistic? Jared Goff wasn't taken til the second round. That's how realistic this was. Still, we never know how these things unfold.

24: R1P24 OT TAYLOR DECKER OHIO ST
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI ST
87: R3P24 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
119: R4P21 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
159: R5P20 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
166: R5P27 ILB JARED NORRIS UTAH
195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA

TRADE PARTNER:
CINCINNATI BENGALS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 24
ROUND: 3 PICK: 24

Decker can back up for a year but, eventually, replace Duane Brown. Kelly will anchor the center position for the next 10 years. Jones is a DT who is flexible enough to be a 3-4 DE. Hooper is the second-best TE according to most boards. Killebrew is a strong safety who hits like a LB. Prosise is not my ideal back but he only has to fit behind Miller and Blue. Norris a good ILB and Garrett a value addition as others here have pointed out. Only eight picks feels rather limiting after getting all these trade-down drafts but I like what this group brings to table. I have my doubts Kelly reaches #52 and I can see all the others being drafted higher than they are here but not outrageously so.

Roy P

04-09-2016, 11:23 PM

1: R2P17 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
2: R2P21 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
3: R3P19 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
4: R4P13 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
5: R4P18 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
6: R4P21 G GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN
7: R5P12 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
8: R5P16 S TYVIS POWELL OHIO STATE
9: R5P20 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
10: R5P27 DE JAMES COWSER SOUTHERN UTAH
11: R5P30 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD
12: R6P20 RB TRE MADDEN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
13: R6P27 OLB VICTOR OCHI STONY BROOK

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 17
ROUND: 3 PICK: 19
ROUND: 4 PICK: 18
ROUND: 5 PICK: 16

TRADE PARTNER:
DETROIT LIONS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 13
ROUND: 5 PICK: 12
ROUND: 5 PICK: 30
ROUND: 6 PICK: 27

As a Colts fan I hope Indy selects Ryan Kelly, but I hope that they don't trade their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks to do so. I also hope that they would select Jack Conklin at #18 and not Cody Whitehair. But that's another discussion.

Roy P

04-10-2016, 09:32 PM

30: R1P30 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
57: R2P26 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
85: R3P22 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
99: R4P1 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
119: R4P21 DT JAVON MARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
122: R4P24 OLB KAMALEI CORREA BOISE STATE
124: R4P26 OT JOE HAEG NORTH DAKOTA STATE
129: R4P31 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
159: R5P20 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA
161: R5P22 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
163: R5P24 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS
166: R5P27 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA
168: R5P29 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD
195: R6P20 OLB DADI LHOMME NICOLAS VIRGINIA TECH
223: R7P2 FB DAN VITALE NORTHWESTERN
225: R7P4 QB CODY KESSLER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 24

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 30
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30
ROUND: 4 PICK: 31
ROUND: 5 PICK: 29

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 25

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 26
ROUND: 5 PICK: 24

TRADE PARTNER:
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 25
ROUND: 4 PICK: 26
ROUND: 7 PICK: 4

TRADE PARTNER:
CINCINNATI BENGALS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 24
ROUND: 4 PICK: 24
ROUND: 5 PICK: 22

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1
ROUND: 7 PICK: 2

I attempted to see how many trade downs I could do and feel comfortable about doing it. This is pretty much my max and believe it or not, I did decline a few trade scenarios. I kind of cheated seeing the "BPA" list on the side of the screen so I knew that I could attempt to take a guy later that I have ranked highest. I.E. I drafted Sterling Shepard and Josh Garnett because they were getting close on the list and I was able to wait on my personal BPA at the time Kaufusi. I did the same when I selected Jerrell Adams over Malcolm Mitchell. If I had been smart, I might have attempted to trade back up for players like Maliek Collins (#79) and Nick Vannett (#94). Correa was my BPA at #122. I took Haeg to complete my O-Line of Kelly, Garnett, and Haeg. I love Promise as my 3rd down back and because I had so many picks I took a flyer on Jonathan Williams. I always seem to take Keyarris and Hogan was my backup QB selection. Having extra picks I selected a pass-rush specialist in Dadi Nicolas. I have a H-Back in Dan Vitale. Then just to have a QB on the practice squad I grabbed Kessler.

HPF Bob

04-13-2016, 01:02 PM

Fanspeak 4/12 board

I didn't get any good trade-down opportunities in the first and second but took one in the third that netted two fourths and a sixth. Therefore, the draft is full of role players and not sexy:

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
52: R2P21 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME
104: R4P6 TE TYLER HIGBEE WESTERN KENTUCKY
119: R4P21 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
130: R4P32 WR RASHARD HIGGINS COLORADO STATE
159: R5P20 ILB BENIQUEZ BROWN MISSISSIPPI STATE
166: R5P27 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
182: R6P7 RB KENYAN DRAKE ALABAMA
195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA

TRADE PARTNER:
BALTIMORE RAVENS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 6
ROUND: 4 PICK: 32
ROUND: 6 PICK: 7

HPF Bob

04-14-2016, 01:06 PM

After the big trade and a new 4/19 NFL.com big board to play with, I took a small trade down and got a decent, not great, draft:

27: R1P27 DT JONATHAN BULLARD FLORIDA
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
88: R3P25 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
119: R4P21 G LANDON TURNER NORTH CAROLINA
159: R5P20 CB JONATHAN JONES AUBURN
166: R5P27 ILB JOSHUA PERRY OHIO ST.
195: R6P20 WR KEYARRIS GARRETT TULSA

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 27
ROUND: 3 PICK: 25

Roy P

04-14-2016, 09:33 PM

After the big trade and a new 4/19 NFL.com big board to play with.

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN ST.
52: R2P21 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
85: R3P22 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
119: R4P21 FS SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
159: R5P20 OLB CHARLES TAPPER OKLAHOMA
166: R5P27 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
195: R6P20 CB MAURICE CANADY VIRGINIA

I was unable to trade down for "Value" and came away with these picks. Conklin gives me flexibility with the OL. Shepard and Mitchell are nice additions to the WRs. Collins gives me push up the middle. Davis is a big hitter who can cover and I really was surprised to see him available in the 4th. Tapper is a project at OLB, but I like his measurables. Canady was was simply the BPA. Bummed I couldn't come away with at least one TE and I would need to trade down and get an extra pick to find one for the roster.

HPF Bob

04-15-2016, 01:03 PM

4/12 CBS board:

A bit strange. With the big trade, I sense the OTs may drop a little bit which might allow Conklin or Decker to fall to us. The question will be whether now is the time to upgrade the OT position and prepare for Duane Brown to be next spring's big cap casualty.With some of the other options (Ragland, Elliott, Lynch, Reed), I'm becoming bigger on taking the good LTs while you can.

I traded down in the second for a lower 2nd and a 3rd then traded the lower 2nd for a 3rd and a 5th. I missed out on some of the guys I wanted but still had a decent draft, not a dazzler.

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
71: R3P8 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
93: R3P30 C MAX TUERK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
119: R4P21 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA
149: R5P10 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
159: R5P20 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
166: R5P27 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
195: R6P20 DT ANTWAUN WOODS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 31
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW YORK GIANTS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 31
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 8
ROUND: 5 PICK: 10

painekiller

04-15-2016, 10:26 PM

4/12 CBS board:

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
71: R3P8 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
93: R3P30 C MAX TUERK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
119: R4P21 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA
149: R5P10 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
159: R5P20 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
166: R5P27 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
195: R6P20 DT ANTWAUN WOODS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

Solid results, I could live with this one. Not sexy put solid.

chuck

04-15-2016, 11:13 PM

You can never have too many good cover corners and you can never have too many good OTs.

Roy P

04-16-2016, 11:24 AM

37: R2p6 c ryan kelly alabama
58: R2p27 wr sterling shepard oklahoma
68: R3p5 g joshua garnett stanford
85: R3p22 dt maliek collins nebraska
105: R4p7 te austin hooper stanford
119: R4p21 de bronson kaufusi brigham young
123: R4p25 te jerell adams s. Carolina
159: R5p20 ot joe haeg n. Dakota st.
166: R5p27 ilb nick vigil utah st.
195: R6p20 rb jonathan williams arkansas
trades

trade partner:
San francisco 49ers

sent:
Round: 1 pick: 22

received:
Round: 2 pick: 6
round: 3 pick: 5
round: 4 pick: 7

trade partner:
Pittsburgh steelers

sent:
Round: 2 pick: 21

received:
Round: 2 pick: 27
round: 4 pick: 25

HPF Bob

04-16-2016, 12:50 PM

Roy, I could be happy with this except I don't see a need for two TEs in this draft. Select a decent RB at 4/25 like a Kenyan Drake or Paul Perkins who can be your third-down option. Then you can use that 6th rounder on a CB or S to add depth there.

Roy P

04-16-2016, 01:41 PM

I would have taken Tyvus Powell, except I figured Jerell Adams would be more impactful on the roster. The Patriots looked good with Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez on the field together. I also felt like I need at least one of them to pan out and I double my chances in case one of them is a bust.

HPF Bob

04-16-2016, 04:01 PM

I think CJ is salvageable so he can be paired with Hooper or Higbee or whomever. Hey, we do so many of these mocks that we don't explain some of our thinking. In general, I just take one player per position based on the severity of need and the scarcity of good options. Sometimes, what you want just isn't there and it changes the equation.

In general, my draft plan falls this way:

1) Best LT or DE/DT that could fit our scheme.
2) Ryan Kelly or Nick Martin for center.
3) One of a few top guards, particularly if the centers aren't there.
4) A TE that creates mismatches due to height or speed.
5) Increasing depth at RB and/or WR.
6) A strong safety that tackles well.
7) Better depth at ILB.
8) A second D-lineman.

But the exact order is fluid based on which positions are disappearing. Sometimes I pick a player in the 3rd because he's the one good guy at that position then take a guy in the 4th I really think is a better player but there were alternative options if he fell off the board.

All I know for sure is that the Texans will prioritize entirely differently than I would.

Roy P

04-16-2016, 04:14 PM

I agree with you on the positions of need and what I would like to add. However, I also have my draft board that is fluid based upon where/when players are being selected. I have some of my favorites and then 'fall-back' players in case I don't get my first guy early in the draft. I have consistently selected certain players over and over again (probably because I have them ranked too highly) such as Ryan Kelly, Joshua Garnett, Maliek Collins, Bronson Kaufusi, Malcolm Mitchell, and Keyarris Garrett. So, I'm twerking my board and ranking players lower than I grade them to see if I can still get them at a lower draft slot. This gives me better opportunities to trade down, get an extra pick or two, and still get My guys. I really like what happens in the mock drafts starting around picks #70 Rd3 Pick 7 all the way through pick #165 Rd5 Pick 26 and would like to get as many selections in this 'sweet spot' of the draft to get real value.

Roy P

04-16-2016, 05:21 PM

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN ST.
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
77: R3P14 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
128: R4P30 DT JAVON HARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA ST.
159: R5P20 CB MAURICE CANADY VIRGINIA
195: R6P20 TE BEAU SANDLAND MONTANA ST.
205: R6P30 S K.J. DILLON WEST VIRGINIA

I declined a trade down opportunity to stay at #22 and select Conklin. Then was pleasantly surprised to see Kelly still available @ #52, so once again declined a trade down. I had expected to take the best WR available at #52 and got nervous that Sterling Shepard would not make it down to me, so I decided he was worth moving up for. Hargrove is one of the best NT prospects in this class in my opinion and I was very happy with my first 4 picks. I looked at Canady, Brandon Williams, Jonathan Jones and Anthony Brown as a CB and Tyvis Powell and KJ Dillon at S at #159. Having missed out on Vannett, Hooper, Henry, and Adams at TE, I grabbed Sandland and hope he develops.

Roy P

04-16-2016, 08:42 PM

CBS draft board last updated April 12th

22: R1P22 OT TAYLOR DECKER OHIO STATE
44: R2P13 WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU
119: R4P21 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA
159: R5P20 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
166: R5P27 OLB JAMES COWSER SOUTHERN UTAH
195: R6P20 G JOE DAHL WASHINGTON STATE

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
OAKLAND RAIDERS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 13

I grabbed a RT/LT backup at #22 in Taylor Decker. Then moved up to select a WR I believe is a 1st round talent in the 2nd round. Then selected the best TE still on the board in the 4th. Sean Davis is a bottom of the 2nd round talent to me and I had to take him in the 5th. Cowser was my BPA in the 5th and I can use him if Clowney gets hurt again. Dahl did not do much run blocking in college, but he impresses me with his athleticism and when I saw him play he held his own.

Roy P

04-16-2016, 09:23 PM

48: R2P17 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
52: R2P21 WR MICHAEL THOMAS OHIO STATE
82: R3P19 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
85: R3P22 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
110: R4P12 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
116: R4P18 G CHRISTIAN WESTERMAN ARIZONA STATE
166: R5P27 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA
195: R6P20 RB JONATHAN WILLIAMS ARKANSAS

Traded out of the 1st round and selected 2 1st-Round Talented WRs in the 2nd round. Got My DL set with Kaufusi and Collins. Improved the TE group with Vannett and Adams. Westerman can play G and I would try him at C. Jonathan Williams is a big back that keeps Miller fresh and can be the short-yardage specialist keeping Watt on Defense.

HPF Bob

04-17-2016, 06:26 AM

Fanspeak board 4/12

There were several good choices at #22 so I looked to trade down and made a deal with Denver, moving to #31 and adding their 3rd rounder. Taylor Decker was still there at #31 so the gamble paid off. It paid off double when Vernon Butler was still there in the second round. My centers were disappearing so I reached for Boehm in the fourth yet was pleased that Killebrew was still available in the fifth:

31: R1P31 OT TAYLOR DECKER OHIO STATE
52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
85: R3P22 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
94: R3P31 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA
119: R4P21 C EVAN BOEHM MISSOURI
159: R5P20 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
166: R5P27 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
195: R6P20 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA

TRADE PARTNER:
DENVER BRONCOS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 31
ROUND: 3 PICK: 31

Roy P

04-17-2016, 10:43 AM

I decided to follow suit and use the same board and make the same initial trade. The difference is Conklin and Decker were already off the board....Conklin was selected by Denver at #22 :( - The good news is, I got my favorite WR. :)

31: R1P31 WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU
57: R2P26 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
85: R3P22 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
117: R4P19 DT JAVON HARGRAVE SOUTH CAROLINA STATE
119: R4P21 G CHRISTIAN WESTERMAN ARIZONA STATE
125: R4P27 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
156: R5P17 TE JERELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA
159: R5P20 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
166: R5P27 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
192: R6P17 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD
195: R6P20 OLB VICTOR OCHI STONY BROOK

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
BUFFALO BILLS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 31

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 19
ROUND: 5 PICK: 17
ROUND: 6 PICK: 17

TRADE PARTNER:
DENVER BRONCOS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 31
ROUND: 3 PICK: 31

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 26
ROUND: 4 PICK: 27

After trading down and getting my WR in the first, I traded down in the 2nd and still got my DE Kaufusi to replace Crick while getting an extra 4th round pick (C.J. Prosise). I traded 3/31 that I got from Denver in my first trade to Buffalo and turned it into NT Hargrave, TE Adams, QB Hogan. So essentially I traded Conklin for Doctson, Hargrave, Adams, and Hogan. My hardest decision was choosing who to pick first out of Westerman, Prosise, Adams, and Killebrew. Westerman was the only player I have given a 2nd round grade so I went with him to potentially play C. All the TEs were gone except for Adams and all the Ss were gone except for Killebrew and I needed a TE more than S. Potentially, I could have passed on Prosise and went after Kenyan Drake later, but I am a big fan of Prosise. Luckily, I was able to get all of them with my cluster of picks that I was able to collect in trades. I've mentioned my reasons for the top 4 guys that I constantly target. The only issue I have with this draft class is that I didn't get a T.

Roy P

04-17-2016, 04:42 PM

28: R1P28 WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU
52: R2P21 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
119: R4P21 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
126: R4P28 FS SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
159: R5P20 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
162: R5P23 CB MAURICE CANADY VIRGINIA
165: R5P26 OT KYLE MURPHY STANFORD
166: R5P27 G CONNOR MCGOVERN MISSOURI
195: R6P20 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD

TRADE PARTNER:
KANSAS CITY CHIEFS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 28
ROUND: 4 PICK: 28
ROUND: 5 PICK: 23
ROUND: 5 PICK: 26

Couldn't get Conklin or Garnett after a trade-down, but still got Murphy and McGovern. Grabbed a TE (Hooper) and a NT (Collins). Very happy to get Kelly in the 2nd round, since I contemplated drafting him with my 1st round pick.

Roy P

04-18-2016, 08:00 PM

23: R1p23 ot jack conklin michigan state
52: R2p21 wr michael thomas ohio state
85: R3p22 de carl nassib penn state
119: R4p21 dt maliek collins nebraska
121: R4p23 te nick vannett ohio state
159: R5p20 wr malcolm mitchell georgia
160: R5p21 ilb blake martinez stanford
166: R5p27 cb cyrus jones alabama
195: R6p20 qb kevin hogan stanford

trades

trade partner:
Minnesota vikings

sent:
Round: 1 pick: 22

received:
Round: 1 pick: 23
round: 4 pick: 23
round: 5 pick: 21

HPF Bob

04-20-2016, 12:43 PM

Fanspeak updated several boards and I made two trade-downs. Cheer up - you only have to endure this 10 more days.

27: R1P27 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 DT CHRIS JONES MISSISSIPPI STATE
88: R3P25 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
99: R4P1 QB CHRISTIAN HACKENBERG PENN STATE
119: R4P21 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
141: R5P2 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
159: R5P20 ILB JOSH FORREST KENTUCKY
166: R5P27 CB ERIC MURRAY MINNESOTA
195: R6P20 WR BRALON ADDISON OREGON

I was surprised Hackenberg fell all the way to the 4th round but that makes him a good value and less of a "threat" to Osweiler. I've been late to the Kaufusi bandwagon but he was another that was too good to pass up in the 4th. Getting another G, OT or SS will just have to wait but the Texans can add them in other ways.

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 27
ROUND: 3 PICK: 25

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 1
ROUND: 5 PICK: 2

Roy P

04-20-2016, 06:52 PM

Blitzwood

04-20-2016, 08:42 PM

I'm also late to the Kaufusi bandwagon....but now I'm a believer. I'm willing to spend a2nd round pick on this guy. I've been seeing him and DT Maliek Collins drafted later in the draft than I feel they are worth. Will be interesting to see where they are selected.

It's been a while since I posted, but this is honestly my favorite time to come here. I've been following this thread to see the draft trends and I have a couple guys I really like, but every time I draft on fanspeak, I feel there's a conspiracy that's keeps me from getting them. That and they've moved up quite a bit this month. The two players a REALLY like are Austin Johnson and Carl Nassib, both from Penn State, along with a shit ton of other very good players in this draft, but these two guys remind me a lot of Bronson Kaufusi and Maliek Collins.
That being said, I did a draft on FS using their board and this is what I came up with, with only two trades.

41: R2P10 WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU
52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
72: R3P9 DT ADOLPHUS WASHINGTON OHIO STATE
85: R3P22 C MAX TUERK USC
106: R4P8 G DENVER KIRKLAND ARKANSAS
119: R4P21 OLB JAYLON SMITH NOTRE DAME
127: R4P29 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
159: R5P20 DT D.J. READER CLEMSON
166: R5P27 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON
195: R6P20 WR AARON BURBRIDGE MICHIGAN STATE
231: R7P10 RB PEYTON BARBER AUBURN

TRADE PARTNER:
CHICAGO BEARS

SENT:
• ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
• ROUND: 2 PICK: 10
• ROUND: 3 PICK: 9
• ROUND: 4 PICK: 8
• ROUND: 4 PICK: 29

TRADE PARTNER:
MIAMI DOLPHINS

SENT:
• FUTURE ROUND 6 PICK

RECEIVED:
• ROUND: 7 PICK: 10

I honestly feel that since this is such a deep draft, it would be foolish not to trade down and grab as many picks as we can. I'm big on safties this year again, with that said I felt Kearse and Killebrew are too similar. Adolphus is my consolation prize if Nassib and Johnson are gone. Butler is a beast in the middle, but feel RJ Reader is not that bad of a replacement, why I got both I don't know, I don't usually do that. I also think BJ Goodson is a not very poor mans Reggie Ragland, just my 2 cents. I think Burbridge is a steal late in the draft! I like P. Barber late in the draft because I think we need a thumper for short/goal line yardage, as Blue simply proved too often he wasn't capable. Jaylon Smith in the 4th round was a no brainer to me.

Roy P

04-20-2016, 09:50 PM

41: R2P10 WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU
52: R2P21 DT VERNON BUTLER LOUISIANA TECH
72: R3P9 DT ADOLPHUS WASHINGTON OHIO STATE
85: R3P22 C MAX TUERK USC
106: R4P8 G DENVER KIRKLAND ARKANSAS
119: R4P21 OLB JAYLON SMITH NOTRE DAME
127: R4P29 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
159: R5P20 DT D.J. READER CLEMSON
166: R5P27 S JAYRON KEARSE CLEMSON
195: R6P20 WR AARON BURBRIDGE MICHIGAN STATE
231: R7P10 RB PEYTON BARBER AUBURN

I honestly feel that since this is such a deep draft, it would be foolish not to trade down and grab as many picks as we can. I'm big on safties this year again, with that said I felt Kearse and Killebrew are too similar. Adolphus is my consolation prize if Nassib and Johnson are gone. Butler is a beast in the middle, but feel RJ Reader is not that bad of a replacement, why I got both I don't know, I don't usually do that. I also think BJ Goodson is a not very poor mans Reggie Ragland, just my 2 cents. I think Burbridge is a steal late in the draft! I like P. Barber late in the draft because I think we need a thumper for short/goal line yardage, as Blue simply proved too often he wasn't capable. Jaylon Smith in the 4th round was a no brainer to me.

I have to admit that I feel like Kaufusi and Nassib are the same type of players. I love Bronson more, but see Nassib being drafted higher. I have this problem with many players. I soured on Killebrew and Kearse after the 40 yard dash was run at the Combine. Yet, Killebrew came back on my radar after his pro day 3-Cone and Shuttle times. So Brew is back on my board. I like Vannett more than Henry and Hooper, but they are ranked higher due to the production in the passing game. Then there's Sandland and Breunacker who are impressive, but small school guys who may be later in the draft not to mention Jerrell Adams as a pass catcher. I like Kenneth Dixon more than Henry or Booker or Collins or Howard, but wonder if he lasts until the 3rd round. I love Maliek Collins and Vernon Hargraves, but they are ranked behind Chris Jones and Vernon Butler. I think Sterling Shepard is awesome and Malcolm Mitchell is a poor man's version who can be selected later. I liked Blake Martinez and Nick Vigil, but wonder if the Texans take a ILB. Plenty of conundrums to sort through.

Josh Doctson is the best WR in this draft. I'm worried about Reader's commitment to football. Adolphus Washington scares me as a bust that played well on a loaded defensive squad. I love Jaylon Smith as a person and a player, but don't know enough about his injury. I liked Burbridge but wonder if he translates to the NFL.

HPF Bob

04-21-2016, 12:17 PM

Jaylon Smith is out for 2016 and may not be able to resume his career at all if you listen to some. I wouldn't pick him earlier than the 5th.

Nassib is intriguing because his bio reminds me of J.J. Watt. Tall, swats passes and has not been a DE for very long. But he's still very raw and you can't be sure he'll refine his game. He's almost never available where I'm drafting. Austin Johnson projects as a true DT which is why I rate him slightly below Chris Jones for us. Jones I think can be an effective DE for a few years before he fills out and plays NT.

I'd love to get Reggie Ragland and phase out Cushing and his big salary but ILBs are going the way of fullbacks in this game so I'm leaning towards getting Conklin or Decker if they fall that far so we can phase out Duane Brown and his salary.

Roy P

04-21-2016, 01:54 PM

Nassib is intriguing because his bio reminds me of J.J. Watt. Tall, swats passes and has not been a DE for very long. But he's still very raw and you can't be sure he'll refine his game. He's almost never available where I'm drafting. Austin Johnson projects as a true DT which is why I rate him slightly below Chris Jones for us. Jones I think can be an effective DE for a few years before he fills out and plays NT.

I'd love to get Reggie Ragland and phase out Cushing and his big salary but ILBs are going the way of fullbacks in this game so I'm leaning towards getting Conklin or Decker if they fall that far so we can phase out Duane Brown and his salary.

I feel Nassib and Kaufusi are knock-off versions of JJ Watt. Which is why I like them. JJ is obviously a one-of-a-kind player.

Austin Johnson has short arms. Which detracts me from his stock as well as slow agility scores.

The ILB position, if not filled with a Freak like Darron Lee, I feel could be addressed with a player like Nick Vigil, Blake Martinez, or Joshua Perry. Thinking outside the box, maybe Kamalei Correa.

If Conklin is there at #22, I would have a hard time passing on him.

Roy P

04-21-2016, 09:29 PM

22: R1p22
wr josh doctson tcu
65: R3p2
ot jason spriggs indiana
85: R3p22
de carl nassib penn state
105: R4p7
s sean davis maryland
119: R4p21
rb cj prosise notre dame
159: R5p20
dt javon margrave south carolina state
166: R5p27
te jerell adams south carolina
176: R6p1
c graham glasgow michigan
178: R6p3
ilb blake martinez stanford
195: R6p20
qb cody kessler usc

HPF Bob

04-22-2016, 02:24 PM

I'd be okay with this. Most of these aren't the guy I want most at those positions but you hit every position of need and got value in most of them.

Good job!

HPF Bob

04-22-2016, 10:13 PM

Fanspeak finally updated the composite board (4/22) and my trading down got me in trouble but I used a bunch of third-day picks to fill in with depth if not star power:

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
62: R2P31 S VONN BELL OHIO STATE
111: R4P13 C MAX TUERK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
119: R4P21 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
129: R4P31 WR RASHARD HIGGINS COLORADO STATE
141: R5P2 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
151: R5P12 CB JONATHAN JONES AUBURN
159: R5P20 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
169: R5P30 K ROBERTO AGUAYO FLORIDA STATE
195: R6P20 TE JERRELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 31
ROUND: 4 PICK: 31

TRADE PARTNER:
DETROIT LIONS
SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 13
ROUND: 5 PICK: 12
ROUND: 5 PICK: 30
ROUND: 6 PICK: 16

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
SENT:
ROUND: 5 PICK: 27
ROUND: 6 PICK: 16
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 5 PICK: 2

I got my desire in the first round, taking Jack Conklin but my trade down in the second blew up when the nine spot drop gobbled up everyone I was hoping to take at #31. The best guy left was SS Vonn Bell. Detroit offered a 4-for-1 trade down in the third that I couldn't say no too. It left me with 3 4ths, 4 5ths and 2 6ths. When I saw two good DT left to start the 5th round, I moved up to get one which turned out to be Ioannidis.

You'll notice I've taken Rashard Higgins several times for the WR. Part of it is the groupings of WR and he, like Austin Hooper, just shows up quite a bit where I want to pick his position. But Higgins is a receiver who is said to be not the fastest or the best pair of hands but he is fantastic at finding dead spots in coverage and getting open, much like Wayne Chrebet. He was very productive at CSU just because he was always getting open.

Aguayo is one of those PK who is so accurate that he gets bored with putting them through the uprights and practices banking them off the uprights. Most rookie PKs seem to have a jinx when they join the NFL (Randy Bullock, for example) but Aguayo is one of those I think is so above the rest that he won't have that problem and easily replace Nick Novak.

chuck

04-22-2016, 10:20 PM

Aguayo is one of those PK who is so accurate that he gets bored with putting them through the uprights and practices banking them off the uprights. Most rookie PKs seem to have a jinx when they join the NFL (Randy Bullock, for example) but Aguayo is one of those I think is so above the rest that he won't have that problem and easily replace Nick Novak.

Does he know that it's OK to go ahead and kick it out of the end zone?

HPF Bob

04-23-2016, 10:38 AM

Does he know that it's OK to go ahead and kick it out of the end zone?

When he gets to Denver, we'll let you know.

Roy P

04-23-2016, 02:39 PM

Fanspeak finally updated the composite board (4/22) and my trading down got me in trouble but I used a bunch of third-day picks to fill in with depth if not star power:

22: R1P22 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN STATE
62: R2P31 S VONN BELL OHIO STATE
111: R4P13 C MAX TUERK SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
119: R4P21 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
129: R4P31 WR RASHARD HIGGINS COLORADO STATE
141: R5P2 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
151: R5P12 CB JONATHAN JONES AUBURN
159: R5P20 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
169: R5P30 K ROBERTO AGUAYO FLORIDA STATE
195: R6P20 TE JERRELL ADAMS SOUTH CAROLINA

I got my desire in the first round, taking Jack Conklin but my trade down in the second blew up when the nine spot drop gobbled up everyone I was hoping to take at #31. The best guy left was SS Vonn Bell. Detroit offered a 4-for-1 trade down in the third that I couldn't say no too. It left me with 3 4ths, 4 5ths and 2 6ths. When I saw two good DT left to start the 5th round, I moved up to get one which turned out to be Ioannidis.

You'll notice I've taken Rashard Higgins several times for the WR. Part of it is the groupings of WR and he, like Austin Hooper, just shows up quite a bit where I want to pick his position.

Who were the players you wanted that were gobbled up in front of Vonn Bell?

I am pleased to see Conklin, Prosise, Ioannidis, Martinez, and Adams.

I was thinking about Higgins based upon his game film and his reception perception data. However the Combine measurables scared me away from believing that he translates to the NFL.

HPF Bob

04-24-2016, 12:19 AM

There was Nick Martin, Joshua Garnett, Chris Jones, Austin Johnson and a couple others. I thought the odds favored at least one of them sneaking through and none did.

Getting Higgins at the end of the 4th is, admittedly, a calculated gamble but I'm not wowed with most of the names i see after him on these lists.

Roy P

04-24-2016, 03:48 PM

27: R1P27 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
62: R2P31 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
85: R3P22 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
89: R3P26 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
94: R3P31 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
119: R4P21 RB C.J. PROSISE NOTRE DAME
125: R4P27 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
150: R5P11 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
156: R5P17 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
195: R6P20 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD
228: R7P7 CB BRANDON WILLIAMS TEXAS A&M

Picks #27-#94 is a sweet spot to have picks. I get so nervous that I am going to pick a guy early and another guy will not fall to my next pick. When I'm on the fence between two players I go with the Supply & Demand strategy. My first 5 picks I drafted because they offered something that nobody else was going to be able to provide at their position. I might have Kaufusi ranked too highly, but I do NOT want to miss out on him. Darron Lee went #13 to Miami, Conklin went #15 to Tennessee and Doctson went #21 to Washington. So I went down to #27 and still got Ryan Kelly.I have Kelly and Kaufusi ranked as 1st round talents. I feel like I really hit the trifecta getting Garnett, Vannett, and Collins right in a row, since I give them 2nd round grades.

I have Prosise, Killebrew, and Malcolm Mitchell graded as 3rd round talents.
I drafted my Safety Killebrew at #150 and tried to move up for either Nick Vigil or James Cowser. But they were selected #154/#155. I went ahead and took Blake Martinez since I had already had a team agree to the trade. After I grabbed Killebrew. So at #156, both of my 'targets' had been taken just prior to my choice.

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
DENVER BRONCOS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 - OT Jerald Hawkins

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 31 - Maliek Collins
ROUND: 7 PICK: 7 - B. Williams

TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22 - Ragland

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 27 - Ryan Kelly
ROUND: 3 PICK: 25 - Traded
ROUND: 4 PICK: 27 - Malcolm Mitchell

TRADE PARTNER:
PITTSBURGH STEELERS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 25 - WR Rashard Higgins

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 26 - Vannett
ROUND: 7 PICK: 8 - Traded

TRADE PARTNER:
BUFFALO BILLS

SENT:
ROUND: 5 PICK: 20 - Joe Schobert
ROUND: 7 PICK: 8 - Tre Madden

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 5 PICK: 17 - Blake Martinez

TRADE PARTNER:
CAROLINA PANTHERS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21 - Sterling Shepard

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 31 - Kaufusi
ROUND: 3 PICK: 30 - Traded - Collins

TRADE PARTNER:
CHICAGO BEARS

SENT:
ROUND: 5 PICK: 27 - Keyarris Garrett
FUTURE ROUND 4 PICK

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 5 PICK: 11 - Killebrew

HPF Bob

04-25-2016, 03:07 AM

I used the NFLDraft.com board and made a couple of short trade downs that netted one of the best drafts so far:

26: R1P26 OT JACK CONKLIN MICHIGAN ST
65: R3P2 C NICK MARTIN NOTRE DAME
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
90: R3P27 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
100: R4P2 RB PAUL PERKINS UCLA
119: R4P21 CB CYRUS JONES ALABAMA
159: R5P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
166: R5P27 ILB BLAKE MARTINEZ STANFORD
195: R6P20 WR MORITZ BOEHRINGER GERMANY

TRADE PARTNER:
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 26
ROUND: 3 PICK: 27

TRADE PARTNER:
CLEVELAND BROWNS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 2
ROUND: 4 PICK: 2

I noticed, too that Keenan Reynolds and Demarcus Ayers were available as UDFAs.

Boehringer may just be one of those training camp novelty acts but the Teutonic Plague is 6-4 with 4.4 speed and should be a nightmare to cover if his hands are good enough for the NFL. Plus, he won't know what sort of smack the DBs are dishing on him so he can't be taunted.

HPF Bob

04-26-2016, 12:59 PM

CBS and Draftek have new boards posted at Fanspeak. I took a 3-for-1 trade down before the draft started and this was the time Conklin and Decker both fell below #22. Anyway, here's the rest of the draft:

38: R2P7 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
52: R2P21 DE CARL NASSIB PENN STATE
69: R3P6 CB SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
85: R3P22 TE AUSTIN HOOPER STANFORD
103: R4P5 WR RASHARD HIGGINS COLORADO STATE
119: R4P21 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
159: R5P20 QB KEVIN HOGAN STANFORD
166: R5P27 ILB DOMINIQUE ALEXANDER OKLAHOMA
195: R6P20 DT ANTWAUN WOODS SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

TRADE PARTNER:
JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 7
ROUND: 3 PICK: 6
ROUND: 4 PICK: 5

Roy P

04-27-2016, 10:02 PM

29: R1P29 WR JOSH DOCTSON TCU
60: R2P29 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
82: R3P19 G JOSHUA GARNETT STANFORD
89: R3P26 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO STATE
92: R3P29 DT MALIEK COLLINS NEBRASKA
119: R4P21 S MILES KILLEBREW SOUTHERN UTAH
143: R5P4 WR MALCOLM MITCHELL GEORGIA
159: R5P20 C GRAHAM GLASGOW MICHIGAN
234: R7P13 QB CODY KESSLER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

TRADES

TRADE PARTNER:
ARIZONA CARDINALS

SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 29 - Doctson
ROUND: 3 PICK: 29 - M. Collins
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30

TRADE PARTNER:
PITTSBURGH STEELERS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 28
ROUND: 6 PICK: 20

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 26 - Vannett

TRADE PARTNER:
OAKLAND RAIDERS

SENT:
ROUND: 4 PICK: 30

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 5 PICK: 4 - M. Mitchell
ROUND: 7 PICK: 13 - Kessler

TRADE PARTNER:
INDIANAPOLIS COLTS

SENT:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 22
ROUND: 5 PICK: 27

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 3 PICK: 19 - Garnett

TRADE PARTNER:
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21

RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 29 - Kaufusi
ROUND: 3 PICK: 28 -

HPF Bob

04-28-2016, 12:47 PM

I used the Arrowhead board and traded down in the 1st and 2nd to get an extra 3rd and 4th. Missing some guys I want but it looks representative.

31: R1P31 C RYAN KELLY ALABAMA
57: R2P26 WR STERLING SHEPARD OKLAHOMA
85: R3P22 DE BRONSON KAUFUSI BRIGHAM YOUNG
94: R3P31 TE NICK VANNETT OHIO ST.
119: R4P21 RB ALEX COLLINS ARKANSAS
125: R4P27 S SEAN DAVIS MARYLAND
159: R5P20 DT MATT IOANNIDIS TEMPLE
166: R5P27 OT TYLER MARZ WISCONSIN
195: R6P20 ILB NICK KWIATKOSKI WVU

TRADE PARTNER:
DENVER BRONCOS
SENT:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 22
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 1 PICK: 31
ROUND: 3 PICK: 31
TRADE PARTNER:
GREEN BAY PACKERS
SENT:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 21
RECEIVED:
ROUND: 2 PICK: 26
ROUND: 4 PICK: 27