Official Texans vs. Patriots Game Thread, 12/13/2015

[Arky]

The 6-6 Texans have been flexed into the Sunday night prime time game this week as they host the 10-2 New England Patriots. New England is coming off two straight losses and banged up but the oddsmakers still like them to win as they have been established as 3 pt favorites.


The Texans had their 4 game winning streak broken last week on the road against the Buffalo Bills losing 30-21. The Texans will look to get back on track and keep their chances of post-season football alive but will have a tough task of it with the Patriots.

The Texans are 6-6 ATS and the Pats are 5-5-2 ATS.

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TV = NBC (channel 2 local), 7:30 pm CST, Sunday, Dec 13

Announcers (http://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2015&wk=14) = Al Michaels, Cris Collingsworth

The line (http://www.madduxsports.com/nfl-odds.php) = Patriots by 3

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Sunday viewing in the Houston area:

CBS (early) = Indianapolis @ Jacksonville -- Tom McCarthy, Adam Archuleta

FOX (early) = Washington @ Chicago -- Kenny Albert, Daryl Johnston

FOX (late) = Dallas @ Green Bay -- Joe Buck, Troy Aikman

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Other prime time:

TNF = Minnesota @ Arizona, NFLN, 7:25 pm

MNF = NY Giants @ Miami, ESPN, 7:30 pm

[popanot]

IMO, the Texans need to win out the rest of their games to make the playoffs. Saw a twit-post yesterday that stated the Pats have experienced a 3-game losing streak only once during Brady's tenure as starter. It would be nice to make this the second time.

[popanot]

If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Gronk getting a bit closer...

Phil Perry Verified account 
‏@PhilAPerry Rob Gronkowski is back at practice today. Wearing a brace on his right leg. Edelman still missing. Chung is back.

[nunusguy]

IMO, the Texans need to win out the rest of their games to make the playoffs.

I know that Pitt is really hot right now, but after watching the Pitt-Indy game I think Indy is playing about as badly as anybody right now, they are terrible - they lost by 5 TDs. If we can win 3 of the last 4 (including beating Indy), we could still win the division IMO.

[popanot]

Colts Remaining Schedule: @JAX, HOU, @MIA, TENN
Texans Remaining Schedule: NE, @IND, @TENN, JAX

Sure IND got slammed by a good PITT team on the road on SNF, but IMO, their schedule is easier than ours. I'm not sure what happens on the tie-breaker if we beat them and still end up in a tie, but just say we win there, I do not see them losing against JAX and TENN, and MIA is a mess. Win-out and the division and playoffs are ours.

[WMH]

Colts Remaining Schedule: @JAX, HOU, @MIA, TENN
Texans Remaining Schedule: NE, @IND, @TENN, JAX

Sure IND got slammed by a good PITT team on the road on SNF, but IMO, their schedule is easier than ours. I'm not sure what happens on the tie-breaker if we beat them and still end up in a tie, but just say we win there, I do not see them losing against JAX and TENN, and MIA is a mess. Win-out and the division and playoffs are ours.

Pendergrast (sp) went thru those scenarios the other day. You can read it here, but it assumes we end up tied with Indy at years end (we lose Sunday night, and beat the Colts).
http://www.houstonpress.com/news/the-texans-chase-for-an-afc-south-title-could-get-very-complicated-7981807

It is very dizzying...... It goes to like the 6th tiebreaker where what other teams are doing matters for Strength of Schedule.

[popanot]

It is very dizzying...... It goes to like the 6th tiebreaker where what other teams are doing matters for Strength of Schedule.Dizzying, indeed. My gosh I just hope we win-out. I'd hate to lose a division title because of a stinking Saints/Falcons game. And you know darn well we'd lose out because that's just how Houston's luck goes when it comes to sports.

[Arky]

I think it will be interesting to follow Hoyer's performance in these next two games.... Will he rise to the occasion?

I wasn't onboard with his acquisition (even though the Texans didn't bother to consult me) back in the spring, but he's grown on me a little in kind of a game manager/don't-turn-the-ball-over/Alex Smith-lite kinda way..... He's done some good, he's done some bad.... and I think his future (back for 2016?) with the Texans may be decided in these next two games...

I'm just hoping that we all aren't regretting that maybe TJ Yates should've got the start in these last four games....

[popanot]

Gronk is playing tonight according to NFLN. Hopefully, he'll get reduced snaps and not be too effective.

[HPF Bob]

Gronk is playing tonight according to NFLN. Hopefully, he'll get reduced snaps and not be too effective.

Hopefully, he reinjures the knee and is out until March.

[WMH]

Hopefully, he reinjures the knee and is out until March.

That is not the Christmas spirit.

:p

[Arky]

Ya, the Gronk-is-playing news has put a lot more money on the Pats as the spread has jumped to New England -6 at Bovada. Not a good sign for the Texans. He may play but I bet it is limited... This game just isn't that critical to New England to jeopardize Gronk's future availability..

[Arky]

Gametime finally here! **I've been waiting all day for Sunday night**.... thank you, Carrie Underwear....

Let's give the Pats the thrashing they so richly deserve....

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The Pats win the toss and defer. Texans to receive.

Kickoff is a touchback.

[Arky]

Texans ball at their 20.

Polk for 4.

Polk for loss of 2. 3rd and 8 coming up.

Hoyer sacked. Texans will have to punt.

Martin brings the punt back into Texan territory but flag on the Pats for block in the back places the ball at the Patriot 34.

[Arky]

Pats ball at their 34.

Blount for 2.

Blount loses 2. 3rd and 10 coming up.

Deep pass is broken up by JJo, inc. Pats will have to punt.

Shorts brings the punt back to the Texan 23.

[Big Texas]

I'm so glad they didn't call that a PI...they typically make that call just because he threw it up ..

[Arky]

Texan's ball at their 23.

Pass to Polk gets 5.

Polk for 1 or 2. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Direct snap to Shorts goes for no gain. Texans will have to punt.

Martin bring the punt back to the Pat 47.

[Big Texas]

Why the hell does Keyshawn look so much dawn faster...it's the curse of the Texans released players...

[Big Texas]

We are gonna get smoked if we think NE is gonna trade 3 and outs with us...just as I speak KJax gets smoked for a TD...gets called back though...luckily

[Arky]

Patriots ball at their 48.

Pass to a wide open Gronk goes for 45 yards. 1st and goal for the Pats at the 7 yard line.

Blount for 1.

Pass in the end zone is a TD but a flag is down.....illegal formation on the Pats, -5. Places the ball at the 11, 2nd and goal coming up.

Pass to Amendola goes to the 2 yard line. 3rd down coming up.

Pass to Martin good for the TD but another flag is down...Watt for roughing, hands to the face on Eddie Unpleasant.... Watt's penalty to be assessed on the kickoff. TD is good.

Pats 7, Texans 0

7:22 left in the 1st qtr.

[Arky]

The ensuing kickoff is a touchback.

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Texan's ball at their 20.

Dumpoff to Polk goes for 9.

Polk for 5, 1st down.

Polk for 6. 2nd and 4 coming up.

Polk for maybe 1. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Pass to Hunt gets the 1st down but a flag is down....unnecessary roughness on D Brown, -15. 3rd and 18 coming up.

Deep pass to Washington goes for 49 yards! 1st down at the Pats 25!

Screen to Shorts goes nowhere. 2nd and 11 coming up.

Pass to Strong goes to the 19. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Pass to Shorts broken up, inc. Texans will go for the FG.

Novak's 38-yarder is good.

Pats 7, Texans 3

2:38 left in the 1st qtr.

[Arky]

The ensuing kickoff is brought back to the 18.

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Pat's ball at their 18.

Blount for 5.

Blount was almost down but gets up and runs for 10 more.... Ball at the Pats 40.

Blount for 8. 2nd and 2 coming up.

Pass to LaFell goes to the Texan 47, 1st down.

End of the 1st qtr.

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Pass to Amedola, can't hang on, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Blount for 7. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Dumpoff to Martin gets the 1st down at the Texan 32.

Blount for 1.

Pass to LaFell is dropped, inc. 3rd and 9 coming up.

Bolden for about 5.... Pats will go for the FG.

Gostkowski's 43-yarder is good.

Pats 10, Texans 3

12:13 left in the half.

[Arky]

The ensuing kickoff is a touchback.

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Texan's ball at their 20.

Grimes gets loose for big gainer! 37 yards.

Grimes for 4. 2nd and 6 coming up at the Patriot 39.

Pass to Shorts goes to the 29, 1st down.

Snap to Grimes goes for maybe 2.

Hunt for 1. Brings up 3rd and 8.

Pass to Washington in the endzone is inc. Texans will go for the FG.

Novak's 45-yarder is good.

Patriots 10, Texans 6

9:25 left in the half.

[chuck]

Does Hoyer know who Hopkins is?

[Arky]

The ensuing kickoff is brought back to the 19.

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Patriot's ball at their 19.

Short pass to Gronk goes for about 5 or 6.

Blount up the gut for about 7 and the 1st down.

Blount for 6. Blount injured on the play, injury timeout.... 2nd and 4 coming up.

Pass to Martin off the mark, inc. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Bolden on the end around gets the 1st down at the Patriot 48.

Bolden for 5.

Bolden for a couple but a flag is down....holding on the Pats, -10. Makes it 2nd and 16.

Pass to Amendola goes to midfield. 3rd and 9 coming up.

Pass to White gets about 5. Pats will have to punt.

Punt is downed at the Texan 3 yard line.

[Arky]

Texan's ball at their 3.

Flags presnap. False start Fido, 1/2 the distance.

Pass to Hop gets 6.

Polk for 3. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Timeout Pats....

Pass to Griffin a little behind him, inc. Texans will have to punt.

Martin brings the punt back to the Texan 41 yard line.

[chuck]

Unless Savage is the next great quarterback and no one knows it but BOB I would be very on board in firing his ass for going into the season with two total losers like Mallett and Hoyer. With a guy like Fitz this is a ten or eleven win team, easily enough to win the division. Instead we get this fking clown show at quarterback, all of which is on BOB. Mallett throwing the ball into the ground for no reason, Hoyer throwing behind the receivers because he feels like it, on and on. Clown show.

Also, does Clowney have a broken hand, too? Because he's not doing shit. Ever. Mack had five sacks in one game today against Licky and Bob. Clowney has two and a half for his career.

[Arky]

Pat's ball at the Texan 41.

2:45 left in the half.

Bolden for 1.

2 minute warning.

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On 2nd and 9, pass to LaFell gets 5. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Pass to Martin gets the 1st down at the Texan 22.

Short pass to Amendola gets a 1st down at the Texan 11.

Bolden caught for no gain. Pats use a timeout with 28 seconds left in the half.

Brady's pass to the sideline off the mark, inc. 3rd and 9 coming up.

Pass to LaFell gets a 1st down at the 1 yard line.

Timeout Texans.

Pass to Gronk gets the TD.

Patriots 17, Texans 6

14 seconds left in the half.

[Arky]

The ensuing kickoff is a touchback.

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Texan's ball at their 20.

Texans kneel it.

Halftime.

Patriots 17, Texans 6

[chuck]

The Texans watch the Jags hang fifty points on the Colts and this is their response. This is a gutless team; it starts with the owner and ends with the fans who keep slavishly buying the bullshit that neck sells.

[Big Texas]

Yeah...This could get ugly...Our offense looks pathetic. Really Hoyer looks pathetic. How can someone who spends so much time with starting reps in practice be so bad in terms of accuracy and timing...any other QB throws a TD on that double move by Nate...but he's out there looking like limp arm Shaub...

[Big Texas]

Hoyer gets pulled in the 2nd half for Yates...LOL

[popanot]

The score is still somewhat close, but we look like a college team playing a Pro team. NE is popping off yards at will, while we're struggling for everything we get. Someone other than JJ or DHop has got to step up and start consistently making plays. If NE comes out and scores a TD on this first drive of the 2nd half, it's pretty much over with the way this O is playing. They can't seem to do anything without trickery and that's not going to beat NE.

[Arky]

Texans - too much run game. 13 runs to 7 completed passes. Down by 11, they're going to have to start slinging it....

[Big Texas]

What bothers me about this defense is, whenever we get beat..WE GET BEAT. It seems like no one is within 5-7 yds.

[chuck]

The score is still somewhat close, but we look like a college team playing a Pro team.

The difference in quarterback play is no surprise. It's the guy who might be the best ever playing against a guy who is not good. Fine. Everything else, though, illustrates the difference between a real team and a pussified group of pretenders. One team wants to win, the other is just happy to suit up. One team has an owner that demands they win, the other has an owner who likes sitting in his suite looking at all the necks who buy his tickets. One team has a brilliant head coach. The other has a fake who is all talk. One team has a successful running game made up of a bunch of no-names. The other team has no running game. I'll stop there, but every couple of years we get to see a real franchise undress a team owned by a gutless pussy who's content to fleece his fanbase and never win, ever.

By the way, where's Clowney?

[Big Texas]

If we are just gonna drop back and let them complete passes and hope to come up and make the tackle Brady will dink and dunk you all night.

[Arky]

The 2nd half kickoff is brought back to the 21.

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Pat's ball at their 21.

Dumpoff to White goes all the way to the Pat 48.

Bolden plows for 5.

Pass to LaFell goes for the 1st down at the Texan 38.

Pass to Amendola goes to the Texan 22 but the Texans challenge that the ball hit the ground.....

Pass is ruled inc. Makes it 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to White gets 2. 3rd and 8 coming up.

Flags presnap. Watt in the neutral zone, 5 yards. Makes it 3rd and 3.

Pass to White good for the 1st down along the sideline. Ball at the Texan 11. Texans challenge that the heel was out of bounds.....

Pass is ruled inc. Pats going for the FG.

Gostkowski's 49-yarder is good.

Pats 20, Texans 6

11:48 left in the 3rd qtr.

[Big Texas]

Easy pass to the TE thrown behind him just led to a 14 pt lead...

[Big Texas]

Under thrown again...

[Arky]

The ensuing kickoff is a touchback.

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Texan's ball at their 20.

Polk for 9.

Eeesh, deep pass to Washington is broken up but holding on the Pats = 5 yards and an auto 1st down.

Deep pass to Hop goes out of bounds, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Ugh, pass to Griffin inc as he hits the ground. 3rd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Griffin broken up, inc. Texans will have to punt.

Punt is fumbled! Texans recover! Ball at the Pat's 22!

[Big Texas]

Just run the ball Hoyer is worse than trash...How do you just KEEP missing open receivers...

[Arky]

Texan's ball at the Patriot 21.

Pass to Hop gets 7.

Direct snap to Grimes loses a couple. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Pass to Washington in the endzone.... he can't hang on to it, inc. Texans to go for it on 4th down.....

Pass to Griffin behind him, inc. Ball turns over on downs.

[Big Texas]

So we are throwing jump balls to Nate Washington now...

[popanot]

CAN SOMEBODY ON OFFENSE PLEASE MAKE A F'ING PLAY!!!! Yes, our QB sucks but these guys drop more passes that hit their damn hands than any team in the league. Ridiculous!!

[chuck]

Hoyer 1-8 on third down. And 0-1 on fourth. I told you guys that I have no delusions about who Yates is but at least he seems to have a pair of balls.

I am firmly convinced that the Texans are a better team with Yates. They are not a good team with Yates, but they are better.

You may disagree; reasonable people might. But the idea that a guy they sign off the street is anywhere near as effective as BOB's hand-picked starter is absolutely nuts.

[Arky]

Pat's ball at their 16 yard line.

Bolden for loss of 1.

Pass to Amendola gets 8. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Brady's fast ball to White goes inc. Pats will have to punt.

Shorts fair catches at the Texan 39 yard line.

[barrett]

CAN SOMEBODY ON OFFENSE PLEASE MAKE A F'ING PLAY!!!! Yes, our QB sucks but these guys drop more passes that hit their damn hands than any team in the league. Ridiculous!!

What exactly do you expect out of this receiving core? I guess I just don't have it in me to get mad about the mediocre players we trusted in playing mediocre. Hopkins is the only skill position player we have who could start for a decent team. This loss happened in the offseason (like all of our others).

[Big Texas]

What exactly do you expect out of this receiving core? I guess I just don't have it in me to get mad about the mediocre players we trusted in playing mediocre. Hopkins is the only skill position player we have who could start for a decent team. This loss happened in the offseason (like all of our others).

My problem is if Strong is expected to be Robin...then why is he playing so sparingly?

[Big Texas]

Bench Hoyer please...He just looks so freaking scared...

[chuck]

What exactly do you expect out of this receiving core? I guess I just don't have it in me to get mad about the mediocre players we trusted in playing mediocre. Hopkins is the only skill position player we have who could start for a decent team. This loss happened in the offseason (like all of our others).

I'm seeing a lot more bad passes than dropped balls. Ideally they'd look to Nuk more and either rely on him to make plays or teach the safeties to shade to his side and then take advantage of that. But if the quarterback is inaccurate and there is no running game to speak of I'm not sure there's much you can do.

The wide receiver/tight end corps sucks, of course (like most every area of this team) but I don't see them as the primary problem.

[popanot]

What exactly do you expect out of this receiving core?I expect them to hang onto the ball when it's in their grasp. It's not only the WRs.

[Arky]

Texan's ball at their 39.

Polk for 6. About 7 minutes left in the 3rd qtr.

Polk for 1. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Pass to Griffin gets the 1st down at the Patriot 34 yard line. Chung injured on the play...

Grimes for 2.

Pass slips out of Hoyer's hand inc but the refs rule a fumble..... play is under review...

Play is ruled and inc pass. Makes it 3rd and 8 coming up.

Hoyer sacked and fumbles but Newton recovers it. Texans will have to punt on 4th and 31. More Patriots injured.... 4:58 left in the 3rd qtr.

Amendola fair catches at the Patriot 11 yard line.

[chuck]

Good thing they flexed this game. It's always entertaining to see this shit team embarrassed on national television. It's too bad that McNair doesn't have any shame.

[Arky]

Pat's ball at their 11.

Bolden for loss of 1.

Pass to Amendola gets 8. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Clowney with the sack! Pats will have to punt.

Shorts fields the punt and steps out of bounds at the Texan 40.

[chuck]

Who the hell's number 90? I can't see his name because his hair's in the way. Is it Brooks Reed?

[Arky]

Texan's ball at their 40.

Polk for loss of 1.

Pass to Grimes gets 5. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Hoyer sacked back at the Texan 35. Texans will have to punt.

Punt is fair caught by Amendola at the Patriot 35.

[Big Texas]

Indys at home right now like we could lose out and still win this division

[popanot]

Even Lechler sucks tonight. D is holding this thing within range but that will likely change soon since the O and STs can't do jack shite.

[Arky]

Pat's ball at their 35.

Bolden powers for about 12.

Quick pass to LaFell gets 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.

End of the 3rd qtr.

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On 2nd and 7, Bolden caught for no gain. Ball at midfield.

Merci with the sack! Loss of 8. Pats will punt.

Shorts brings the punt back to the 18.

[Big Texas]

This game should easily be tied...but 2 bad throws and here we are..at least connect on 1 of them...

[Arky]

Texan's ball at their 18.

13:37 left in the game.

Hoyer sacked and coughs it up. Patriots recover. Pats takeover at the Texan 7.

[chuck]

They put Hoyer back out there after an obvious concussion and you get what you ask for.

Newton fking blows. He has been horrible tonight.

[Arky]

Pat's ball at the Texan 7.

Pass to Amendola gets 4.

Bolden for almost 2. 3rd and goal at the 2.

White runs it in up the gut for the TD.

Patriots 27, Texans 6

12:04 left in the game.

Time for TJ....

[Big Texas]

It's been clear since the 2nd qtr that Hoyer has looked lost...

[Big Texas]

Have we ever won a Sunday night Football game?

[chuck]

It's been clear since the 2nd qtr that Hoyer has looked lost...

Hoyer sucks. Everyone knows that but BOB. The fact that they sent him out there after a concussion and he was unable to hold onto a football during a routine sack where he was whipped down rather than drilled tells you all you need to know about the competence and judgement of this coaching staff.

[Arky]

Hunt brings the ensuing kickoff back to the Texan 15.

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Texan's ball at their 16.

Grimes for 3.

Pass to Hop broken up, inc. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Deep pass to Hop goes for good yardage. Ball at the Patriot 41.

Jeez, Griffin can't hang on to the pass, inc.

Grimes for 8. 3rd and 2 coming up.

Snap to Shorts goes for no gain. Texans going for it on 4th and 3.

Hoyer gets slammed down for a sack. Ball turns over on downs.

[chuck]

Christ, Godsey is a fking idiot. He's BOB's hand-picked choice. Everyone must go.

[popanot]

Wildcat on a critical 3rd and short against the best coached team in the league. Nuff said...

[Big Texas]

I think I get it...BOB is trying to get Hoyer hurt so he doesn't have to worry about benching him...looks like it worked...LOL:D

[chuck]

Wildcat on a critical 3rd and short against the best coached team in the league. Nuff said...

It's absolutely inexcusable. If the owner were awake and/or cared about winning he'd fking fire all of these cocksuckers tomorrow.

[chuck]

Ahh. So now Hoyer goes in for the concussion protocol. Just three or four possessions too late. What a bunch of dumbasses.

[WMH]

So that didn't go as planned.

Wasn't expecting a W, but would have liked to see a more competitive game.

[Arky]

Pats ball at the Texan 38.

Bolden for 1.

Pass to Amendola goes for a big gain but a flag is down.... holding on the Pats makes it 2nd and 19 coming up.

Flags presnap. False start Pats, -5. Makes it 2nd and 24 coming up.

Pass to Gronk goes for 36.

Brady can't find a receiver and runs for a 1st down at the Texan 29.

Bolden for loss of 1. About 5:46 left in the game.

Brady sacked by Clowney. Loss of 10. 3rd and 21 coming up.

Dumpoff to White gets small gain, 5 yards. Pats use a timeout and will punt.

Shorts fair catches the punt at the Texan 11.

[Arky]

Texan's ball at their 11.

TJ in at QB.

TJ's pass to Hop broken up, inc.

Yates is sacked. Brings up 3rd and 14.

Dumpoff to Grimes gets only 4. Texans will have to punt.

Pats fair catch the punt at their 31.

[Big Texas]

I just refuse to believe that Hoyer doesn't suck in practice...This guy has taken this team as far as he can...He just cannot do it...He just not have the skill set to even be a game manager...so if that's the case let's just get the young buck some time...we are only kidding our selves if we believe that we can win this division...

[WMH]

I just refuse to believe that Hoyer doesn't suck in practice...This guy has taken this team as far as he can...He just cannot do it...He just not have the skill set to even be a game manager...so if that's the case let's just get the young buck some time...we are only kidding our selves if we believe that we can win this division...

Ummm, our young buck is on IR.

[Arky]

Pat's ball at their 31.

Bolden for a couple.

Bolden for no gain. Brings up 3rd and 8.

Bolden gets loose and gets the 1st down at their 44 yard line.

2 minute warning.

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Patriots kneeling it.

Kneel #2.

Kneel #3.

Game over.

Final score:

Patriots 27, Texans 6

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Not good.

[chuck]

Think about this. The Texans play in the worst division in football. Their NFC opponent is the second worst division in football. Despite all of that the Texans are not going to have a winning record, nor are they going to make the playoffs. There is a lot of blame to go around but BOB is the head coach and supposedly has final say over the roster. I think Rick Smith is a zero but BOB's overall performance this year has been terrible.

[chuck]

Poor Bob. His favorite team loses to his second most hated team and his second favorite team loses to his most hated team. And poor Babydoll, she's not getting any tips tonight.

[Arky]

Texans with 7 total 1st downs.

3 for 14 on 3rd down. 0 for 2 on 4th down.

24:46 ToP.....

189 total yards.

Hooo-wheeee, those are some ugly stats....

[Big Texas]

Ummm, our young buck is on IR.

I was referring to TJ Yates...LOL

I guess he is not that young anymore...maybe I should have said the younger buck...LOL

But speaking of Savage, we need to find out about him soon...

[popanot]

Hey, maybe Brandon Weeden can turn it around like Blaine Blabbert did. Ugh....

[barrett]

This team is terrible and has 2 offensive players worth anything (Brown and Hopkins). That may be 2 more than the number of Texans coaches who had a clue tonight.

Don't let our wins over other bottom feeders, or the Colts incompetence fool you, we are bad.

[nunusguy]

This team is terrible and has 2 offensive players worth anything (Brown and Hopkins). That may be 2 more than the number of Texans coaches who had a clue tonight.

Don't let our wins over other bottom feeders, or the Colts incompetence fool you, we are bad.

Damn Barrett, you are starting to sound like the Chuckster who as usual is over here whining like a little bitch after the Texans get another butt-whipping. If it's such a miserable experience why do you guys bother with it, even spend your time in these parts ?
I'm already looking forward to next week vs Indy who were even more embarrassed by the Jags last night. Atleast we got whupped by the champs.
We'll see you and your buddy the Chuckster here next week. If it's that bad
for you, you guys should get a new team. Maybe the New England Patriots, I hear they are pretty good.

[barrett]

Damn Barrett, you are starting to sound like the Chuckster who as usual is over here whining like a little bitch after the Texans get another butt-whipping. If it's such a miserable experience why do you guys bother with it, even spend your time in these parts ?
I'm already looking forward to next week vs Indy who were even more embarrassed by the Jags last night. Atleast we got whupped by the champs.
We'll see you and your buddy the Chuckster here next week. If it's that bad
for you, you guys should get a new team. Maybe the New England Patriots, I hear they are pretty good.

Are you saying I can only be a fan if I enjoy myself? Tell that to the entire city of Cleveland. Being tortured is an unfortunate side effect of fandom.

Our team is bad and I take no comfort in that. I wish they were good. Right now they are not, and the 6-7 record and bad division doesn't fool me into thinking they are good. I hope they are good soon.

[Arky]

Are you saying I can only be a fan if I enjoy myself? Tell that to the entire city of Cleveland. Being tortured is an unfortunate side effect of fandom.

Our team is bad and I take no comfort in that. I wish they were good. Right now they are not, and the 6-7 record and bad division doesn't fool me into thinking they are good. I hope they are good soon.

Bad, good, eh, I think it's just semantics. The Texans showed in this Patriot game that they aren't ready for the big boys so yeah, they're probably not a top 10 team.... On the other hand, they looked pretty good against the Bengals, Jets and Saints so there's that .... The word "inconsistent", IMO might best describe the Texans of 2015 so far...

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Going back to semantics and words, all the time on message boards I see this sorta accepted misuse of the word "mediocre" for the word "average". One of the definitions of the word "mediocre" is: not satisfactory; poor; inferior. Yet, people use it all the time when they mean "average"...... Average is defined as: the arithmetic mean. In the football terms, average would be 8-8.

The Texans have gone 88-120 (.423 win percentage) in their first 13 years of existence so the word "mediocre" definitely applies here.....

For football, there should be some sort of adjective scale to follow - something like:

10-6 = above average, "B" grade
9-7 = slightly above average
8-8 = average, "C" grade
7-9 = slightly below average (starting to get into mediocre territory here)
6-10 = below average, "D" grade (you're in mediocre territory)

etc.

11 or more wins, the words could be very good, excellent, elite, etc.

5 or less wins , the words could be poor, bad, pathetic, etc....

BTW, the overall record of 88-120 for the Texans translated into one season is 6.77-9.23 or roughly 7-9. So, (theoretically) they've gone like 7-9 for 13 straight seasons....

I dunno, just rambling here.....