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Arky
12-18-2013, 11:40 PM
The 2-12 Texans take on the 11-3 Denver Broncos Sunday for a noon game at Reliant. The Texans are coming off a 25-3 road loss to the Indianapolis Colts. The Broncos are coming off a 27-20 home loss to the San Diego Chargers approx. a week ago on TNF.

TV = CBS (channel 11 local), noon CST, Sunday

Announcers (http://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2013&wk=16) = Ian Eagle, Dan Fouts

The line (http://www.madduxsports.com/nfl-odds.php) = Broncos by 10 to 11.5

nunusguy
12-19-2013, 08:36 AM
I dunno, how did we luck out and get Arizona @ Seattle instead of the Dallas game ?

Arky
12-19-2013, 09:34 AM
I dunno, how did we luck out and get Arizona @ Seattle instead of the Dallas game ?

Dunno, but seems like it's usually the other way around i.e., Dallas not getting the Houston game.

Also, Thursday Night Football ended last week. Next week (last week of regular season), Monday Night Football ends, so this Monday's ATL @ SF game is the last one....

HPF Bob
12-19-2013, 12:28 PM
How is 2/3rds of the country getting Denver/Houston instead of KC/Indy? Have they not looked at the standings?

I understand Texas and the Rocky Mountain states getting this game but much of the South, New England, Upper Midwest and Far West are also getting this game too. I guess I can see New Englanders having an interest regarding the Patriots and the #1 seed. But I'm still puzzled.

As to the Arizona/Seattle question: the Cowboys game is on at the same time as the Houston game. The Fox affiliate in Houston decided they could get better ratings not going head-to-head with the Texans.

nunusguy
12-19-2013, 01:57 PM
How is 2/3rds of the country getting Denver/Houston instead of KC/Indy? Have they not looked at the standings?

I understand Texas and the Rocky Mountain states getting this game but much of the South, New England, Upper Midwest and Far West are also getting this game too. I guess I can see New Englanders having an interest regarding the Patriots and the #1 seed. But I'm still puzzled.

I agree. The Indy-KC matchup obviously is more compelling.

As to the Arizona/Seattle question: the Cowboys game is on at the same time as the Houston game. The Fox affiliate in Houston decided they could get better ratings not going head-to-head with the Texans.
OK then, did not realize that the Dallas game (unlike Ar-Seattle) was a noon start. That then is an easy explanation and of course makes sense - thanks. It's interesting to, I didn't realize that Fox (or CBS in a similar situation) had that much latitude in going with the early or late start ?

Arky
12-19-2013, 02:10 PM
How is 2/3rds of the country getting Denver/Houston instead of KC/Indy? Have they not looked at the standings?



Peyton Manning. Everybody loves Peyton Manning. :) (not I)

Actually, he might break the passing TD record this game. I think he needs 3 more to tie Brady's 50-in-a-year.....

Arky
12-22-2013, 12:04 PM
Roofs open....

Broncos win the toss and defer. Texans to receive.

Kickoff goes out of the endzone. Texan's ball at their 20.

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DJ for 3 up the gut. 2nd and 7 coming up.

Short pass to G Jones picks up 4. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Schaub's pass to Hopkins a little high, inc. Texans to punt.

Nice return by Holliday but flags are down..... illegal blocks/holding on the Broncos..... Places the ball at the Bronco 8.

Nconroe
12-22-2013, 12:10 PM
Interesting that Denver and Seattle have more penalties than Texans thru 14 games.

Arky
12-22-2013, 12:15 PM
Short pass by Manning goes for 6.

Pass to Tamme gets 4 and the 1st down.

Pass to Decker gets 16.... flags down... illegal formation Broncos makes it 1st and 15 at the Bronco 13.

Pass is short and inc. 2nd and 15 coming up.

Pass to Thomas gets 13. 3rd and 2 coming up.

Flags presnap.....false start Broncos...Makes it 3rd and 7 coming up.

Pass to Caldwell is good for the 1st down. Ball at the Bronco 34.

Deep pass to Caldwell too long, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Moreno goes right up the gut for 31 yards. Ball at the Texan 35.

Pass to Decker gets 14.

Pass to Thomas in the endzone is broken up, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Ball sweeps left for 7. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Short pass is broken up by Keo, inc. Broncos to go for the FG.

Prater's 32-yarder is good.

Broncos 3, Texans 0

8:50 left in the 1st quarter.

Arky
12-22-2013, 12:22 PM
DJ downs the ensuing kickoff in the endzone, touchback. Texan's ball at their 20.

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Pass to Martin a little behind but off his hands, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

DJ for no gain.

On 3rd and 10, pass to Martin gets about 3 but flags down......illegal block in the back on DJ is declined. Texans to punt.

Holliday gets 7 on the punt return and is smashingly greeted by Tuggle. Bronco's ball at their 30.

Nconroe
12-22-2013, 12:25 PM
Our receivers aren't getting open even if OL gives Schaub lots of time. Oh well.

Tuttle had a nice hit on Holiday on the punt return.

HPF Bob
12-22-2013, 12:26 PM
If you wanted any more proof the Texans are doomed today, the Bushes are in the building. We never win when Babs is in the house.

Arky
12-22-2013, 12:29 PM
Manning's pass to Decker goes for big gainer. 35 yards.

Moreno for about 2. 2nd and 8 coming up at the Texan 34.

Pass to Green gets 7. 3rd and 1 coming up.

Moreno gets 3 and the 1st down but flags down..... holding on Broncos -10. Makes it 3rd and 11 coming up.

Pass to D Thomas gets 8. Manning want to go for it on 4th down and 4....

Pass to J Thomas only gets 2 or 3 so the Texans takeover on downs. Ball at the Texan 26.

Arky
12-22-2013, 12:35 PM
DJ pops for about 9. 2nd and 1 coming up.

DJ gets the 1 yard and a 1st down.

Pass to AJ goes for nice gainer....Ball at the Bronco 31.

DJ caught in the backfield for loss of 1. 2nd and 11 coming up.

Pass to Griffin gets 5. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Pass to AJ down the sideline too long, inc. Texans to go for the FG.

Bullock's 45-yarder is good!

Texans 3, Broncos 3

2:02 left in the 1st quarter.

chuck
12-22-2013, 12:37 PM
Rex Ryan is going to be fired after the season. Do we want him?

Arky
12-22-2013, 12:46 PM
Holliday brings the ensuing kickoff back to the Texan 36. Bronco's ball.

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Pass to Caldwell goes nowhere. Loss of 1. 2nd and 11 coming up.

Pass to Moreno goes for nice gainer. 17 yards. Ball at the Texan 48.

Moreno for 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.

Dumpoff to Moreno gets 9 and the 1st down at the Texan 36.

End of the 1st quarter.

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Long pass to D Thomas gets the TD. 36 yards.

Broncos 10, Texans 3

14:54 left in the half.

Arky
12-22-2013, 12:55 PM
DJ brings the ensuing kickoff back the Texan 17. Texan's ball.

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DJ for 1 up the middle. 2nd and 9 coming up.

Pass to AJ goes for nice gainer. 18 yards and a 1st down.

Pass to G Jones is too high, inc but flag on the Broncos for late hit, +15 yards. Places the ball at the Bronco 49.

Karim for no gain. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Schaub gets sacked back at the Texan 43. Makes it 3rd and 18 coming up.

Pass to AJ over the middle only gets 5. Texans to punt on 4th and 13.

Holliday fair catches Lechler's punt at the Bronco 11. Bronco's ball.

11:36 left in the half.

nunusguy
12-22-2013, 12:59 PM
How did McCain not catch that, however he recovers and makes a good play.
Nice punt return !

Arky
12-22-2013, 01:00 PM
Pass to D Thomas gets 19 and a 1st down at the Bronco 30.

Moreno for about 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.

Manning's pass is nearly INT'ed but McCain but inc. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Manning's pass is broken up by McCain, inc. Broncos have to punt.

Nice punt return by Martin! 53 yards! Ball is placed at the Bronco 28.

Nconroe
12-22-2013, 01:01 PM
Defense gets a stop. Denver targeting McCain but he held due to lots of pressure on Manning by JJ.

Arky
12-22-2013, 01:05 PM
DJ for about 9. 2nd and 1 coming up.

DJ gets about a half yard. 3rd and 1 coming up.

DJ gets the 1 and the 1st down. Ball at the Bronco 18.

DJ for 1. 2nd and 9 coming up.

Screen to DJ gets blown up. 3rd and 11 coming up.

Schaub's short pass to AJ off the mark, inc. Texans to go for the FG.

Bullock's 35-yarder is good.

Broncos 10, Texans 6

6:06 left in the half.

Nconroe
12-22-2013, 01:06 PM
FG kicking more consistent these last few games.

Arky
12-22-2013, 01:12 PM
Holliday brings the ensuing kickoff back to about the Bronco 25. Bronco's ball.

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Pass to D Thomas gets 8. 2nd and 2 coming up.

Ball rushes for 9 and the 1st down at the Bronco 43.

Ball for 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.

Pass to Decker gets about 10 and a 1st down.

Moreno for 2. 2nd and 8 coming up.

Pass to D Thomas gets 9 and the 1st down. Ball at the Texan 33.

Manning pressured, throws a short pass, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Timeout Broncos with 2:30 left in the half.

Arky
12-22-2013, 01:20 PM
Dumpoff to J Thomas gets 11 and a 1st down at the Texan 22.

2 minute warning.

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Pass to D Thomas goes to Texan 4. 1st and goal.

Flags presnap....false start Broncos. Ball at the 9.

Pass to D Thomas broken up by KJ, inc. but holding on the Broncos makes it 1st and goal from the 19.

Short pass to Decker goes to the 7. 2nd and goal.

Manning's pass in the endzone is broken up by Keo, inc. 3rd and goal coming up from the 7.

Manning's pass to Decker is off the mark, inc. Broncos to go for the FG with 59 seconds left in the half.

Prater's 25-yarder is good.

Broncos 13, Texans 6.

Arky
12-22-2013, 01:29 PM
The ensuing kickoff goes out of the endzone, touchback. Texan's ball at their 20.

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Schaub's pass is batted down, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up with 52 seconds left in the half.

Schaub's pass slips out of his hand and is inc. 3rd and 10 coming up. Play is being reviewed to make sure it wasn't a fumble....

Play stands as an incomplete pass.

On 3rd and 10, Schaub's deep pass down the sideline is inc. Texans to punt with 39 seconds left.

Holliday brings the punt back to the Bronco 31.

Keith
12-22-2013, 01:30 PM
What could it hurt to start T.J. in the second half??

Arky
12-22-2013, 01:32 PM
Pass to Decker gets 12. 20 seconds left in the half. Timeout Broncos.

Pass to J Thomas gets 23 yards and a 1st down. 11 seconds left in the half.

Pass to Tamme gets about 8. Broncos to go for the FG with 5 seconds left.

Prater's 44-yarder is good.

Broncos 16, Texans 6

Halftime.

nunusguy
12-22-2013, 01:36 PM
What could it hurt to start T.J. in the second half??
What the hell, nothin to lose ? Schaub has certainly been ineffective and that last series was particulaly disappointing.

Arky
12-22-2013, 01:39 PM
Halftime stats:

Passing: Schaub 7/15, 66 yards, 0 TD's, 0 INT's

Rushing: DJ 10/25, Karim 1/0

Receiving: AJ 3/56, many with 1

Tackles: KJ 7, Sharpton/Keo/Pleasant/Swearinger 4 each, B Reed 3, McCain/McClain 2 each

Time of possession: Texans 13:21, Broncos 16:39

1st downs: Texans 5, Broncos 16

Total yards: Texans 83, Broncos 355

3rd down efficiency: Texans 1/7, Broncos 1/5

Red zone: Texans 0/1, Broncos 0/2

Penalties: Texans 0/0, Broncos 7/57

Turnovers: Texans 0, Broncos 0

Arky
12-22-2013, 01:49 PM
Holliday brings the 2nd half kickoff back to the Bronco 17. Bronco's ball.

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Pass to Moreno goes inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Moreno for about 5 on the delay. 3rd and 5 coming up.

Pass to Decker a little off, inc. Bronco have to punt.

Martin brings the punt back to the Texan 26. Texan's ball.

Arky
12-22-2013, 01:56 PM
Schaub's pass to DJ off the mark, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Martin gets 7. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Throwback pass to Griffin goes for big gainer. 40 yards.

DJ sweeps left for 1. Ball at the Bronco 26. 2nd and 9 coming up.

Schaub's pass to Hopkins off the mark, inc. 3rd and 9 coming up.

Schaub's short pass to Martin goes for about 10 and the 1st down. Ball at the Bronco 16.

Karim for maybe 2. 2nd and 8 coming up.

Oh man, AJ drops it in the endzone.....inc. 3rd and 8 coming up.

Schaub finds Martin in the back of the endzone for the TD! 15 yards!

Broncos 16, Texans 13

10:33 left in the 3rd quarter.

nunusguy
12-22-2013, 01:58 PM
Schaub throws 2 TDs on one drive, only gets credit for one.

Nconroe
12-22-2013, 02:02 PM
That was a nice drive by Schaub and Martin.

Arky
12-22-2013, 02:05 PM
Holliday brings the ensuing kickoff back to the Bronco 22.

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Short pass goes inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Thomas goes inc.

On 3rd and 10, Manning is sacked by Watt! Broncos have to punt on 4th and 13.

Martin brings the punt back for 11 but flags are down.....holding on Texans... places the ball at the Texan 19. Texan's ball.

Arky
12-22-2013, 02:09 PM
Karim for about 3.

On 2nd and 7, Schaub scrambles for about 5 or 6. Brings up 3rd and 2.

Pass to Hopkins gets 6 and the 1st down. Ball at the Texan 35.

Schaub pressured, throws it inc. 2nd and 10 coming up. 7:30 left in the 3rd quarter.

Pass to Jean broken up, inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.

3rd down pass to AJ is broken up, inc. Texans to punt.

Holliday brings the punt back to the Bronco 25. Bronco's ball.

Arky
12-22-2013, 02:16 PM
Ball at the Bronco 24.

Manning's pass to Ball off the mark, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Manning pressured, throws inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.

Timeout Broncos with 6:53 left in the 3rd quarter.

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On 3rd and 10, pass to Decker only gets about 4. Broncos have to punt.

Martin brings the punt back to about the Texan 35. Texan's ball.

Arky
12-22-2013, 02:21 PM
Deep pass to AJ too long (!) inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Griffin gets 17 and a 1st down at the Bronco 46.

Karim gets about 14 and a 1st down.

Karim goes right side for 5. 2nd and 5 coming up.

Schaub sacked/stripped but Griffin falls on it, still Texan's ball. 3rd and 12 coming up.

Schaub sacked again puts the Texans out of FG range. Texans to punt.

Punt is fielded by the Texans at the Bronco 21. Bronco's ball.

Arky
12-22-2013, 02:25 PM
Moreno for 4. 2nd and 6 coming up.

Pass to J Thomas goes for 11 and a 1st down at the Bronco 35.

Moreno for 5 but flags down.....hands to the face on the Broncos backs it up 10. 1st and 20 coming up.

Pass to Decker gets 6. 2nd and 14 coming up.

Pass to D Thomas gets 11. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Manning pressured, throws it inc. Broncos have to punt.

Broncos down the punt at the Texan 9. Texan's ball.

Arky
12-22-2013, 02:31 PM
21 seconds left in the 3rd quarter.

Karim gets 5. 2nd and 5 coming up.

End of the 3rd quarter.

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On 2nd and 5, Karim gets 5 and the 1st down. Ball at the Texan 20.

Schaub's pass is INT'ed by the Broncos at the Texan 28. Bronco's ball.

Arky
12-22-2013, 02:33 PM
Moreno runs for 18. Ball at the 10.

Pass to Decker goes for the TD. 10 yards.

Broncos 23, Texans 13

13:26 left in the game.

Arky
12-22-2013, 02:40 PM
The ensuing kickoff goes out of the endzone, touchback. Texan's ball at their 20.

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DJ goes right side for about 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.

Short pass to DJ gets 3. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Pass to AJ gets about 7 and the 1st down.

Karim caught in the backfield for loss of 3. 2nd and 13 coming up.

Flair pass to Karim loses 1. 3rd and 14 coming up.

Deep pass to AJ too long (!), inc. Texans have to punt.

Punt is muffed but recovered by the Broncos. Pleasant with the holding adds 10. Places the ball at the Bronco 45.

10 minutes left in the game.

Nconroe
12-22-2013, 02:42 PM
Did announcer say Schaub threw that ball for 70 yards?

Arky
12-22-2013, 02:50 PM
Moreno runs for 4. 2nd and 6 coming up.

Pass to Decker crossing gets 6 or 7 and the 1st down.

Manning's deep pass to D Thomas too long, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Tamme gets 10 and the 1st down at the Texan 34.

Ball hits the left side for 13. About 8 minutes left in the game.

Pass to Caldwell is inc but offsetting penalties on both teams. Makes it 1st and 10 at the Texan 21.

Moreno gets 1. 2nd and 9 coming up.

Pass to Thomas in the endzone is too high, inc. 3rd and 9 coming up.

Pass to Decker in the endzone goes for the TD. 20 yards.

Play is under review....

Play stands as called.

Broncos 30, Texans 13

6:57 left in the game.

Nconroe
12-22-2013, 02:54 PM
No big deal, but Decker clearly did not have control of ball on that TD.

Arky
12-22-2013, 02:54 PM
Did announcer say Schaub threw that ball for 70 yards?

Ya, I think I need to see the DVR version.....;) It *is* kinda nice to see them at least trying some deep stuff.....

Arky
12-22-2013, 02:59 PM
The ensuing kickoff goes out of the endzone, touchback. Texan's ball at their 20.

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Short pass to Griffin loses 1.

Karim gets loose for big gainer but holding on Harris brings it back. Makes it 2nd and 21 coming up from the 9.

Schaub's pass is batted down at the LOS. 3rd and 21 coming up.

Grimes gets 7. Texans will punt on 4th and 14.

Decker fair catches the punt at the Bronco 44. Bronco's ball.

Arky
12-22-2013, 03:04 PM
Moreno for 4. 2nd and 6 coming up.

Pass off the hands of Decker on the sideline, inc. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Pass to Thomas down the sideline, inc. but flags fly..... Texans get 2 flags.... PI and defenseless receiver.... Just the PI is enforced. Places the ball at the Texan 25.

Manning hits Thomas for the TD and new record (51 TD passes in one year). 25 yards.

Broncos 37, Texans 13

4:28 left in the game.

Arky
12-22-2013, 03:08 PM
The ensuing kickoff goes out of the endzone, touchback. Texan's ball at their 20.

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Pass to Griffin gets 5. About 4 minutes left in the game.

Grimes gets 5 and the 1st down.

Grimes for about 10. 2nd and 1 coming up.

Schaub throws one up for grabs, Broncos INT. Ball at the Bronco 22.

Nconroe
12-22-2013, 03:11 PM
That's lots of TDs in one year by Peyton Manning. And he's old, slow. Amazing.

Arky
12-22-2013, 03:13 PM
Osweiler in at QB for the Broncos.

Rush to the left gets 2.

Hillman up the middle for 3. 3rd and 5 coming up.

2 minute warning.

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On 3rd and 5, rush only gets 1. Broncos to punt.

Martin brings the punt back to the Texan 33. Texan's ball.

Arky
12-22-2013, 03:15 PM
Grimes for 2.

DJ for no gain or loses 1.

Time runs out.

Final Score:

Broncos 37, Texans 13

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It's a new low every week! :rolleyes:

HPF Bob
12-22-2013, 03:20 PM
Schaub's best position is fetal. His results were really no different than Keenum's so the question is whether Schaub is now as bad as Keenum or whether Keenum is as good as Schaub.

HPF Bob
12-22-2013, 03:26 PM
i think for one quarter the Texans had Denver's offense as stymied as they've looked all season. For three quarters, the Texans also had just one penalty and then the laundry brigade came out at the end as it always seems to do against us.

The Redskins came within seconds of wrapping up our #1 overall pick for us but then they caved. We'll have to earn it next week in Tennessee.

barrett
12-22-2013, 04:58 PM
Way to go Shiloh Keo. I am glad that when Denver decided to treat us as a punching bag and throw deep with a 20 point lead and 4 minutes left, at least one guy on our team was bothered enough to attempt to take someone's head off. I really wish Manning had rolled an ankle or something stupid on that drive. It blew my mind they did that, and our guys just took it, and then went and congratulated him after the game. But I guess if we have no respect for ourselves why would the rest of the NFL.

chuck
12-22-2013, 05:08 PM
Way to go Shiloh Keo. I am glad that when Denver decided to treat us as a punching bag and throw deep with a 20 point lead and 4 minutes left, at least one guy on our team was bothered enough to attempt to take someone's head off. I really wish Manning had rolled an ankle or something stupid on that drive. It blew my mind they did that, and our guys just took it, and then went and congratulated him after the game. But I guess if we have no respect for ourselves why would the rest of the NFL.

I was seething. I would have rushed every player and taken that redneck's head off and then told Fox Good luck in the playoffs with that 7-foot misfit you have as second-string.

Or, I guess, you can go ahead and defend the play for the hell of it.

HPF Bob
12-22-2013, 11:58 PM
Like I said, the Texans are soft and they don't hit back. Kubiak and Phillips both. If there's a team trying to embarrass us, I want us to max blitz all 11 guys and then beat the hell out of their star player after the whistle. There would be fines and maybe a suspension but i guarantee you they won't ever try it again and the entire league will know about it.

I can understand Denver wanted the record but there's one more game left in the season and it could have been done next Sunday when it is legit and then bench Manning the rest of the game. The Broncos, as it turns out, will have to beat the Raiders anyway since a loss means a potential return to Foxboro for an AFC Championship Game they'd rather play at altitude. They probably can't beat McGroin with The Ostrich playing the whole game at QB so they really ran up the score for no valid reason.

Until the Texans get a coach that will hit back, we will always be pushovers. If Rex Ryan gets fired, he may be a schmuck but he knows how to get a group of mediocre players to be tough, play physical and overachieve. Not sure I want that comedy act down here but we could do a lot worse and probably will.

painekiller
12-23-2013, 01:08 AM
If Rex Ryan gets fired, he may be a schmuck but he knows how to get a group of mediocre players to be tough, play physical and overachieve. Not sure I want that comedy act down here but we could do a lot worse and probably will.

What if he were brought in as Def Cord?

barrett
12-23-2013, 08:32 AM
What if he were brought in as Def Cord?

It would take one impressive HC to control a team when Rex Ryan is on the staff. Players absolutely love Rex (he is as immature as they are). Rex as an assistant is a recipe for mutiny even if he is being a good company guy. I'd rather go all in and take him as a HC than have him as an assistant (especially if we have a 1st time NFL HC like O'Brien).

nunusguy
12-23-2013, 08:42 AM
Way to go Shiloh Keo. I am glad that when Denver decided to treat us as a punching bag and throw deep with a 20 point lead and 4 minutes left, at least one guy on our team was bothered enough to attempt to take someone's head off.
OK fine, welcome to the Shiloh-Bandwagon, I've always been a fan of the overachieving Vandal from the Puget Sound. It was a good pop and can't blame him for being embarrassed and PO'd. But instead why didn't he make that pick in the EZ, or maybe McCain just hang on to that ball which was just begging him to pick it ? Right in his hands ! If so we are still in the game.
Instead the Broncos undrafted, 10-year NFL Vet Mike Adams made a much more difficult play on a ball that wasn't really that poorly thrown by Schaub and single-handedly changed the games momentum. It virtually kissed the sideline and only if rookie WR Hopkins had been more interested in playing football Sunday than sending an Instagram or whatever, he could have stepped into the pass or shielded off the DB.

HPF Bob
12-23-2013, 09:46 AM
...if rookie WR Hopkins had been more interested in playing football Sunday than sending an Instagram or whatever, he could have stepped into the pass or shielded off the DB.

I was thinking the same thing when I watched the replay. Who's knows which way his momentum was taking him but a veteran receiver would have come back for the ball instead of letting the defender break on him.

Nconroe
12-23-2013, 10:28 AM
It would take one impressive HC to control a team when Rex Ryan is on the staff. Players absolutely love Rex (he is as immature as they are). Rex as an assistant is a recipe for mutiny even if he is being a good company guy. I'd rather go all in and take him as a HC than have him as an assistant (especially if we have a 1st time NFL HC like O'Brien).

I was thinking there were some player mutinys a couplr years with Rex as head coach.

barrett
12-23-2013, 10:40 AM
I just expect all the other stuff and am surrendered to it. Manning and John Fox rubbing it in like Brees and Payton was an unexpected insult.

barrett
12-23-2013, 10:44 AM
I was thinking there were some player mutinys a couplr years with Rex as head coach.

Players hate him when things go bad sometimes because he is brash and obnoxious, but on the whole they love him. Especially defensive players. Lots of defensive players and coaches genuinely hate all offensive guys, even the ones on their own team. Rex as a DC would likely mean half your team disliked and resented the offensive minded HC. Plus Rex would be more concerned as a DC about looking good for his next HC job. I'd role the dice on him as a HC if no great offensive candidate was around, but I wouldn't want him in the #2 role.

chuck
12-23-2013, 12:05 PM
Players hate him when things go bad sometimes because he is brash and obnoxious, but on the whole they love him. Especially defensive players. Lots of defensive players and coaches genuinely hate all offensive guys, even the ones on their own team. Rex as a DC would likely mean half your team disliked and resented the offensive minded HC. Plus Rex would be more concerned as a DC about looking good for his next HC job. I'd role the dice on him as a HC if no great offensive candidate was around, but I wouldn't want him in the #2 role.

Having Rex as the DC here would be exactly like it was when his dad was DC in Houston and I imagine the results would be nearly identical.

Having him as HC, well, I like what Bob said, we could do worse and probably will.

Warren
12-23-2013, 04:46 PM
Somebody told me the other day that Rob Ryan had expressed an interest in the Texans job. My response is that I couldn't see Bob McNair hiring somebody that brash and controversial -- it just doesn't fit his image of the what the team should be. Same goes for Rex, except that he has a more acceptable haircut.