View Full Version : Official Texans @ Jaguars Game Thread, 12/5/2013
Gameday is tomorrow this week as the 2-10 Texans travel to Jacksonville to take on the 3-9 Jaguars on Thursday Night Football. The Texans are coming off a 34-31 home loss to the New England Patriots and the Jaguars are coming off a 32-28 road victory over the Cleveland Browns.
TV = NFLN, Thursday, 7:25 pm CST
Announcers (http://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2013&wk=13) = Brad Nessler and Mike Mayock
The line (http://www.madduxsports.com/nfl-odds.php) = Texans by 3
nunusguy
12-04-2013, 07:39 AM
Texans with 10 consecutive losses while Jacksonville has won their last 2 and 3 of their last 4 and they get the game at home on a really short week
where the road team is at even more of a disadvantage and the Texans are still favored by a FG ? Must be that performace by our practice squad QB taking HOFer Brady all the way to the wire, huh ?
barrett
12-04-2013, 09:51 AM
Texans with 10 consecutive losses while Jacksonville has won their last 2 and 3 of their last 4 and they get the game at home on a really short week
where the road team is at even more of a disadvantage and the Texans are still favored by a FG ? Must be that performace by our practice squad QB taking HOFer Brady all the way to the wire, huh ?
The line has nothing to do with predictions and everything to do with what Vegas needs to do to get relatively equal money bet on each team.
HPF Bob
12-04-2013, 10:00 AM
The line = Texans by 3
Some folks aren't fast learners, are they?
Well, since we can't win on Sundays, why not Thursday?
nunusguy
12-04-2013, 11:46 AM
The line has nothing to do with predictions and everything to do with what Vegas needs to do to get relatively equal money bet on each team.
Gimme a break Barrett, just like every year I'm heading out to Vegas next month and will bet on the POs as usual. And the spreads do to a great extent reflect the prediction on the game, but of course they also handicap it to a degree to induce maximum revenues for the book. I know how the system works.
BTW, we are staying at Mandalay Bay, any pros or cons on that location ?
I'm hoping for an entertaining loss.
jaimeg
12-04-2013, 01:58 PM
Pat Kirwan made an interesting point on NFL radio yesterday. This upcoming game will tell us a lot about Case. He is coming off a fairly decent performance against NE in which he had a decent running game and a defense that couldnt stop NE in the second half. Case will be seeing a team for the second time.
The Texans are 2-9-1 ATS (against the spread) this year. Since I'm a bit of a homer, I've been losing on the Texans all year at the not-real-money betting website I visit.
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I remember saying after the first five Texan losses that that was a long time to go without a W. I had no idea it would turn into 10 in a row.....
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There was some question before the New England game whether the Texans had quit as they had just been beaten by the Jags at home. After going toe-to-toe with the Patriots, apparently the betting confidence with the Texans is still good and despite what some say (Hi, Walter (http://walterfootball.com/nflpicks2013_14early.php)), I don't think they have (quit). This game is actually pretty important to a lot of people's future....
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Still early but Walter (http://walterfootball.com/nflpicks2013_14early.php) shows 64% of the money coming in on the Texans. The line, to me, is encouraging money on Jax. The public sometimes outsmarts themselves... Sometimes the line is so weird, you wonder if the oddsmakers are messing with you. To what degree do you overthink it? But this one is easy for me - the homer in me is going with the Texans..
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The Jags are 4-8 ATS.
Sunday viewing in the Houston area:
FOX early - Detroit @ Philadelphia -- Kevin Burkhardt, John Lynch
FOX late - Seattle @ San Francisco -- Joe Buck, Troy Aikman
CBS late - Tennessee @ Denver -- Jim Nantz, Phil Simms
SNF - Carolina @ New Orleans -- Al Michaels, Chris Collinsworth
nunusguy
12-05-2013, 07:36 AM
Sunday viewing in the Houston area:
FOX early - Detroit @ Philadelphia -- Kevin Burkhardt, John Lynch
FOX late - Seattle @ San Francisco -- Joe Buck, Troy Aikman
CBS late - Tennessee @ Denver -- Jim Nantz, Phil Simms
SNF - Carolina @ New Orleans -- Al Michaels, Chris Collinsworth
Glad we are getting the Philly game as they've got X-Texans DeMeco & Barwin which offers another option even if a vague alternative in cheering for a PO contender with the hapless Texans now entirely out of the post-season chase.
Keith
12-05-2013, 09:53 AM
So you're saying there's a chance...
Despite being 2-10 with 10 consecutive losses, the Texans have yet to be eliminated from the AFC’s playoff chase. ...
The Texans’ ridiculous hope for the playoffs: to have at least seven AFC teams finish tied at 6-10 — themselves, plus the Steelers, Ravens, Dolphins, Browns, Jets, Chargers and the winner of a Week 15 game between the Bills and Jaguars. Oakland, Tennessee and the loser of that Buffalo-Jacksonville game could finish 6-10 or 5-11 without propping up another wild-card contender’s record.
Should that happen, the Texans’ could secure the AFC’s second wild-card spot via a tremendously convoluted set of tiebreakers.
To keep their dream alive for another week, Houston needs to beat Jacksonville on Thursday night, then have these results occur on Sunday: Minnesota over Baltimore, New England over Cleveland, Oakland over the Jets, the Giants over San Diego and Pittsburgh over Miami.
http://nfl.si.com/2013/12/03/houston-texans-nfl-playoffs/?eref=sihp
Glad we are getting the Philly game as they've got X-Texans DeMeco & Barwin which offers another option even if a vague alternative in cheering for a PO contender with the hapless Texans now entirely out of the post-season chase.
Ya, that's the only early game. I wasn't enthused till I saw the other options: Minn @ Balt or Atl @ GB (that one might be OK...).
http://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2013&wk=14
Anyhoo, is everybody pumped to see some exciting AFC South football tonight? ;)
Nconroe
12-05-2013, 07:06 PM
Absolutely , most exciting important game of the year.
Jags win the toss and will receive.
Kickoff is downed in the endzone, touchback. Jag's ball at their 20.
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Pass is thrown out of bounds, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
MJD for 8. 3rd and 2 coming up.
Screen to Sanders goes for 11 and the 1st down.
Deep pass to Sanders too long, inc. Holding on Texans 5 yards and an auto 1st down.
MJD for 4.
MJD for 10 up the gut.
Henne flushed out of the pocket and scrambles up the middle for 14 yards. Ball at the Texan 29.
Todman sweeps left for 13.
Pass to Brown in the endzone goes inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
MJD sweeps right for 4. 3rd and 6 coming up.
Short pass to Brown gets 6 and the 1st down. 1st and goal at the Texan 6.
Short pass to MJD goes to the 1 yard line. 2nd and goal coming up.
MJD for no gain. 3rd and goal coming up.
Jump ball to Lewis in the corner goes for the TD.
Jags 7, Texans 0
8:48 left in the 1st quarter.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 07:38 PM
The Jags are slicing through the Texans defense like a hot knife through butter. :mad:
HPF Bob
12-05-2013, 07:38 PM
They seem to be able to run on the Texans at will. Jaguars scored more points on their first drive than the Texans scored the entire game against them last time.
Joshua
12-05-2013, 07:44 PM
They seem to be able to run on the Texans at will. Jaguars scored more points on their first drive than the Texans scored the entire game against them last time.
That's nothing new. They did that last time as well.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 07:46 PM
To bad AJ slipped to that pass. It would have been a nice completion.
Martin brings the ensuing kickoff back to the Texan 22. Flags down......Holding on Pleasant places the ball at the Texan 7. Texan's ball.
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Tate for 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.
Pass to Hopkins gets a 1st down at the Texan 22.
Pass to a slipping AJ goes inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Short pass to Graham goes for 4. 3rd and 6 coming up.
Keenum pressured, throws short to a slipping Hopkins. Texans to punt.
Sanders brings the punt back to the Jag 27. Jag's ball.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 07:48 PM
This Jacksonville field most be in terrible condition, because players are slipping all over the place. Or did the Texans bring the wrong shoes?
MJD for 6 up the gut.
Pass to Shorts gets nice gain but holding on Jags back it up. Makes it 2nd and 14 coming up.
Henne scrambles right up the gut for 9.
3rd down pass to the TE goes inc. Jags to punt.
Punt is unfielded and touched by the Jags at the Texan 22. Texan's ball.
This Jacksonville field most be in terrible condition, because players are slipping all over the place. Or did the Texans bring the wrong shoes?
Dunno, but it's time to break out the longer spikes.... :)
Tate rumbles for 7.
Tate for 2. Brings up 3rd and 1.
Tate powers for 3 and a 1st down.
DJ for 6.
Screen to AJ goes for 7 and the 1st down.
Short pass to Tate off the mark, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Tate for 2. Brings up 3rd and 8. Ball at the Texan 48.
Keenum's is hit during passing and they call it a fumble. Keenum recovers the fumble. Texans to punt.
Jags fair catch the punt at their 14. Jag's ball.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 08:05 PM
The offense needs to start converting some 3rd downs and the defense needs to find away to cover Lewis or it is going to be a long night.
Pass over the middle to Lewis goes all the way to the Texan 45. 40 yards.
End of the 1st quarter.
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Deep pass to Shorts inc. but PI on Keo gives a 33 yard penalty and a 1st down at the Texan 12.
MJD for maybe 1.
Flags presnap.....neutral zone infraction Mercilus +5. Makes it 2nd and 4.
Pass intthe endzone to Shorts is inc. 3rd and 4 coming up.
Pass to Shorts in the endzone is good for the TD.
Jags 14, Texans 0
13:41 left in the half.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 08:10 PM
The Jags worked JJo like he was McCain on that series of plays.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 08:18 PM
Nuk has got to learn not to loose his cool. This offense is killing its self. This team is playing like crap. They truly look like a 2-10 team.
Nconroe
12-05-2013, 08:19 PM
False start on center? Not looking good at all, other than for top draft pick. Way too many penalties. Yikes.
Martin downs the ensuing kickoff in the endzone, touchback. Texan's ball at their 20.
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Pass to Griffin a little too long, inc.
Screen to Tate loses 2. 3rd and 12 coming up.
Keenum scrambles up the middle for 13 and the 1st down.
Tate goes left side for 5. 2nd and 5 coming up.
Tate for no gain but flags down.....roughness on Hopkins makes it 3rd and 19 coming up.
False start on Texans back it up 5 more. 3rd and 24 coming up.
Keenum pressured throws it away. Texans to punt.
Texans interfere with the catch (Mack). 15 yards. The Jag's ball at the Texan 39.
Henne's pass is batted down by Watt, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
MJD for no gain or maybe 1. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Flags presnap.....false start Jags....-5. Makes it 3rd and 15 coming up.
Henne pressured throws it away, inc. Jags to punt...
Martin fair catches the punt at the Texan 9. Texan's ball.
8:50 left in the half.
popanot
12-05-2013, 08:29 PM
Has a team ever fired a coach at halftime or even during the game? I wish we would be the first. I know the players suck too, but these guys are so poorly coached it's not even funny. Well, to anyone but their opponents.
DJ for 1.
Pass over the middle to Graham goes to the Texan 32. 1st down.
Short pass to DJ goes for 5.
Pass over the middle to Graham goes for 6 and the 1st down but hands to the face on the Texans makes it 2nd and 16.
Pass to Posey gets 9. 3rd and 7 coming up.
Pass to AJ gets 7 and the 1st down.
Rollout pass to Graham is good for 16 and a 1st down at the Jag 42.
Pass to Griffin gets 10 and another 1st down. About 4 minutes left in the half.
Pass to AJ off the mark, inc....flags down.... PI on the Jags places the ball at the Jags 25. 1st down.
Tate for maybe 4. 2nd and 6 coming up.
Whistles presnap..... timeout by the Texans.... 2:56 left in the half.
On 2nd and 6, Tate hits the left side for 9 and the 1st down at the 12.
Tate for maybe 4. 2nd and 6 coming up at the Jag's 8 yard line.
2 minute warning.
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Slant to AJ too short, inc. 3rd and 6 coming up.
Pass to Martin in the endzone goes for the TD!
Jags 14, Texans 7
1:53 left in the half.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 08:43 PM
So, Kmart can catch and a td pass at that. Who woulda thunk it? Not me.
Jags down the ensuing kickoff in the endzone, touchback. Jag's ball at their 20.
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Henne's short pass over the middle goes inc.
Henne scrambles for nice gain but holding on Jags brings it back. Makes it 2nd and 20 coming up.
Henne's pass to is broken up, inc. 3rd and 20 coming up. 1:37 left in the half.
Pass to Sanders gets 8. Jags will punt on 4th and 12 with 1:30 left in the half.
Martin gets nothing on the punt return. Texan's ball at their 32.
Pass to Graham over the middle gets 9.
Keenum's pass is INT'ed by the Jags. Jags ball at their 41.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 08:49 PM
Keenum with a terrible throw on that int. I mean wtf was he thinking?:confused:
BigBull
12-05-2013, 08:54 PM
What is up with all these stupid penalties?
Deep pass to Shorts too long, inc.
Pass to Brown gets 8. 3rd and 2 coming up. Timeout Jags with 38 seconds left in the half. Ball at the Jag 49.
Short pass to Brown is broken up, inc. Flags down....Taunting on Swearinger give the Jags a 1st down at the Texan 36.
Pleasant INT's and returns it but flags are down.... Holding on Texans (Swearinger) give the Jags a 1st down at the Texan 31.
A Brooks Reed sack! Loss of 6. 2nd and 16 coming up with 12 seconds left.
Delayed handoff to MJD gets 14. Jags call a timeout with 7 seconds left. Jags to go for the FG.
Scobee's 40-yarder is good.
Jags 17, Texans 7
3 seconds left in the half.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 08:55 PM
Brooks Reed actually has a sack!:eek: Of course they let MJD shred them on the next play and put the Jags in fg range and of course they make it.
Jags squibs the ensuing kickoff down the field...... Texans fumble but fall on it. Time runs out.
Halftime.
Jags 17, Texan 7
Halftime stats:
Passing: Keenum 12/19, 109 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
Rushing: Tate 10/41, DJ 2/7, Keenum 1/13
Receiving: Graham 4/50, AJ 2/14, Hopkins 1/16, many others with 1
Tackles: KJ 4, Keo/Swearinger 3 each, many with 1
Time of possession: Texans 17:28, Jags 12:32
1st downs: Texans 11, Jags 12
Total yards: Texans 164, Jags 163
3rd down efficiency: Texans 4/7, Jags 4/8
Red zone: Texans 1/1, Jags 2/2
Turnovers: Texans 1, Jags 0
Penalties: Texans 10/115, Jags 4/32
BigBull
12-05-2013, 09:07 PM
I know it is only the half, but I truly thought the Texans were a better team even though they had already lost to Jags 2 weeks ago. Once again the Texans are shitting all over their selves and they still have the 2nd half were they usaully shit all over their selves. Boy was I wrong about this team. I just hope there is some change at the end of the season, because this is the worst coached Texans team I've ever seen. smh :mad: :( Another thing I thought the Texans had a lot of talent, but the way they have played this year I'm not so sure. I mean the Hags are kicking their a****. If the Texans were not the laughing stock of the nlf before this game they will be by the end.
The 2nd half kickoff goes out of bounds so the Texans get the ball at their 40.
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Tate for maybe 1.
Short pass to Tate gets 5. 3rd and 4 coming up.
Pass to AJ goes all the way to the Jags 40. 1st down.
DJ for 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.
Deep pass to AJ off the mark, inc. 3rd and 7 coming up.
Pass to Martin off the mark, inc. Texans have to punt.
Lechler's punt is downed by Mack at the Jag 4 yard line. Jag's ball.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 09:20 PM
It's sad when the best thing on the team is the job the punter is doing not to take anything away from JJ or AJ.
MJD for loss of 1. 2nd and 11 coming up.
MJD for 1. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Shorts gets 8. Jags have to punt.
Martin brings the punt back to the Jags 46. Texan's ball.
Pass to AJ goes the Jag 20. 26 yards. A Jag (Ball) is injured on the play. Injury timeout.
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Keenum's short pass to AJ is broken up, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Tate for 3. 3rd and 7 coming up.
Pass to Hopkins in the endzone is complete but out of bounds, so, inc. Texans to go for the FG.
Bullock's 34-yarder is good.
Jags 17, Texans 10
8:29 left in the 3rd quarter.
The ensuing kickoff brought back to about the Jags 21 but flags are down....holding on Jags....backs it up to the Jags 12. Jag's ball.
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Deep pass down the sideline is inc.
Rush goes for 3. 3rd and 7 coming up.
Pass to Sanders is inc but PI on JJo..... Gives the Jags a 1st down at their 17.
Henne pressured, scrambles for a yard.
MJD busts loose for big gainer. 48 yards.
Rush goes for -1 but face mask on Swearinger gives the Jags a 1st down at the Texan 21.
Pass to Todman wide open goes for the TD. 21 yards.
Jags 24, Texans 10
6:12 left in the 3rd quarter.
Martin downs the ensuing kickoff in the endzone, touchback. Texan's ball at their 20.
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Pass to Griffin too long, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Graham off his hands, inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Short pass to AJ just gets 4. Texans have to punt.
Sanders brings the punt back to the Jags 37 or 38. Jag's ball.
Nconroe
12-05-2013, 09:45 PM
I know Sweringer is young , but he should know better, that is 14 points on Sweringer.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 09:47 PM
Looks like Matt is in. **************** Kubiak.
End around to Sanders goes for no gain. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Sideline pass to Brown only goes for 1.
Henne's pass to Shorts off the mark, inc. Jags to punt on 4th and 8.
Martin brings the punt back to the Texan 24. Texan's ball.
Nconroe
12-05-2013, 09:52 PM
Case looks beat down. I guess Schaub best chance to win for Kubes.
Schaub in.
Pass to AJ gets 8.
Pass to Hopkins goes all the way to the Jags 21. 47 yards.
Short pass to Martin gets 2.
Pass to Graham is good for a 1st down at the 12.
Schaub can't find a receiver and throws it out of the endzone, inc.
Pass to AJ gets 7. 3rd and 3 from the 5 coming up.
Schaub hits Graham for the TD!
Jags 24, Texan 17
1:08 left in the 3rd quarter.
The ensuing kickoff is brought back to the Jag 33. Jag's ball.
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Flags presnap.... offsides Jags -5. Makes it 1st and 15 coming up.
Screen to MJD too high, inc. 2nd and 15 coming up.
MJD for 5. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Henne pressured, scrambles for 8. Jags have to punt.
End of the 3rd quarter.
Joshua
12-05-2013, 09:57 PM
I thought i had come up with basically every way the Texans could rip my heart out but Schaub being reinserted into the starting lineup then winning a couple games down the stetch to drop us a couple spots in the draft was one I had not thought of. Now, that seems exactly like something the Texans would do.
Nconroe
12-05-2013, 09:58 PM
Whatever happens, that was a nice drive by Schaub.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 10:00 PM
I thought i had come up with basically every way the Texans could rip my heart out but Schaub being reinserted into the starting lineup then winning a couple games down the stetch to drop us a couple spots in the draft was one I had not thought of. Now, that seems exactly like something the Texans would do.
You and me both.:mad:
Jags going for it on 4th and 1..... nope, fake-out didn't work... Jags take the 5 yard delay of game and will punt.
Punt goes out of bounds at the Texan 32. Texan's ball.
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Pass to AJ gets 8.
Pass to Graham gets about 4 and the 1st down.
Pass to AJ gets nice gainer. 22 yards.
Pass to AJ too low, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Schaub can't find a receiver and throws it away, inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Hopkins along the sideline sails inc. Should've been PI on Jags... Texans to go for the FG.
Flags on the kick....illegal substitution on the Jags makes it 4th and 5 and now the Texans are going to go for it.
Timeout Jags with 13:17 left in the game.
Pass to Martin goes for 14 and the 1st down. Ball at the Jags 14.
Pass to Graham in the endzone too high, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Griffin goes for 8. Flag down..... holding on Texans (Jones) backs it up to the 24 yard line.
Pass to Graham broken up, inc. 3rd and 20 coming up.
Pass to AJ goes to the 13 yard line. Texans to go for the FG.
Bullock's 31-yarder is good.
Jags 24, Texan 20
11:31 left in the game.
Joshua
12-05-2013, 10:06 PM
If they go for it here, this is stupid. There is 13 minutes left.
popanot
12-05-2013, 10:06 PM
This game won't be complete without a Fat Randy miss.
Nconroe
12-05-2013, 10:13 PM
Hey, turning into a fun game. Just relax . I'm sure there will be plenty to complain about.
The ensuing kickoff is downed in the endzone, touchback. Jag's ball at their 20.
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Pass to MJD goes for 15.
Todman for no gain.
Pass to Todman off the mark, inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Shorts (?) only gets 8. Jags have to punt.
Punt goes into the endzone, touchback. Texans ball at their 20.
9:22 left in the game.
Hey, turning into a fun game. Just relax . I'm sure there will be plenty to complain about.
Who knew? Matt Schaub - Quarterback of the Future! ;)
BigBull
12-05-2013, 10:23 PM
BeardedSchaub is going to blow the #1 overall pick by wining just like Schaub blew the season.
Short pass to Graham gets 5. 2nd and 5 coming up.
Pass to Hopkins goes to the 40 yard line, 1st down.
Short pass to Martin gets 3.
Pass to AJ gets a 1st down at the Jags 46.
Schaub can't find a receiver and throws it away, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Schaub scrambles for 7!!!! ;)
On 3rd and 3, pass to AJ gets a 1st down at the Jag 33.
Schaub's deep pass over everyone, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up. 6:08 left in the game.
Schaub is sacked.... loss of 10. 3rd and 20 coming up.
Pass to AJ gets 22 and the 1st down! Ball at the Jag 21.
Tate for 9. A little over 4 minutes left in the game.
Schaub rolls out and can't find a receiver and throws inc. 3rd and 1 coming up.
Oy, Tate caught for loss of 1. Brings up 4th and 2. Timeout Texans (2 left).
On 4th and 2, pass to AJ gets broken up, inc. Jags takeover on downs. 3:37 left in the game.
Nconroe
12-05-2013, 10:28 PM
Our OL to the rescue.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 10:31 PM
The sad thing is I'm going to be pissed if they loose or if they win and blow the 1st overall pick in the draft. I'm truly torn.
BigBull
12-05-2013, 10:34 PM
KJ just had to get in on the pass interference he was feeling left out.
Jags ball at their 13.
Todman for 2. Timeout Texans (1 left). Oy, Todman was injured... could've saved the timeout....
Henne's deep pass is almost INT'ed by KJ but they are going to call PI on KJ. Places the ball at midfield.
Robinson loses 3. Texans use their final timeout with 3:18 left in the game.
Robinson for 2. 3rd and 11 coming up. Jags let the clock run down and use a timeout with 2:32 left in the game.
Henne's pass to Brown is off the mark, inc. Jags to punt.
Martin fair catches the punt at the Texan 22. Texan's ball. 2:21 left in the game.
Schaub's pass is inc. to a slipping Graham.
Schaub's pass is INT'ed by the Jags. Jags ball with 2:08 left in the game.
Todman for 1.
2 minute warning.
Todman for loss of 1. 4th and 10 coming up. Jags use a timeout with 30 seconds left. Jags to go for the FG.
Scobee's 39-yarder is good.
Jags 27, Texan 20
25 seconds left.
Nconroe
12-05-2013, 10:46 PM
Alright. That's more like it. Everybodys happy now.
Martin brings the kickoff back to the Texan 23. 20 seconds left.
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Schaub is sacked back at the 5 yard line. Time runs out.
Final Score:
Jags 27, Texans 20
BigBull
12-05-2013, 10:48 PM
Alright. That's more like it. Everybodys happy now.
Happy and pissed at the same time. smh
I'm hoping for an entertaining loss.
1 down, 3 more of these to go.
Nconroe
12-05-2013, 10:59 PM
1 down, 3 more of these to go.
Sad, but true.
The Texans have played the Jags twice, now and haven't got the Jags to turn the ball over once. No takeaways. The Texans had 1 turnover in the 1st game and 2 tonight.
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Tonight, the Texans won the time of possession (35:22 to 24:38) and the Total Yards (406 to 281) but not the scoreboard. This has happened so much this year... :(
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7 losses in a row of less than 1 score.
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Texan had 14 penalties for 177 yards tonight.
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The Jags got a whopping 7 first downs from penalty. The Texans got one.
Joshua
12-06-2013, 06:04 AM
Starting with about 6 minutes left in the 3rd quarter, Kubiak called 35 passes and 2 runs. While I guess it got us back in the game, the inevitable INT was only a matter of time.
I just don't get Kubiak. For a purported offensive mind, why does he think you have to completely abandon the run when down by 2 scores in the 3rd or 1 score in the 4th. (And, yes, I may have started Tate in fantasy last night.).
popanot
12-06-2013, 07:04 AM
The ineptitude currently coming from this franchise - from the Owner, GM, HC, Staff, players, play on the field, game decisions, you name it - is just astonishing. It has become a failure at every level and every angle imaginable.
I think the most disappointing thing for me this year is no one is willing to take a stand or hold someone accountable. McNair continues to hide in his shell and allow Kubiak to coach... Kubiak continues to allow Marciano and other staff members to coach... Kubiak continues to make the same game mistakes over and over and over again... The coaching staff continues to allow awful (OL, OLBs, anyone on STs, JJoe, Schaub) and/or dumbass players (Swearinger) play... Dumbass players continue to make mistakes and some continue to talk and act like jerks despite the fact they suck...
It's truly stunning how everyone at the upper levels of this organization has just allowed this crap to continue. Fine... Fire a coach, bench or pull a player, lose games... Have some balls and DO SOMETHING to make a statement!
nunusguy
12-06-2013, 07:17 AM
Schaub was looking really sharp last night until that pass that resulted in the pic by one of the no less than 4 Jags defenders who closely bracketing his target. Yup, deja vu all over again. How many times has that happened this season alone ? Rogers or Brady could maybe fit that ball in, but would they even attempt that pass ?
:rolleyes:The ineptitude currently coming from this franchise - from the Owner, GM, HC, Staff, players, play on the field, game decisions, you name it - is just astonishing. It has become a failure at every level and every angle imaginable.
I think the most disappointing thing for me this year is no one is willing to take a stand or hold someone accountable. McNair continues to hide in his shell and allow Kubiak to coach... Kubiak continues to allow Marciano and other staff members to coach... Kubiak continues to make the same game mistakes over and over and over again... The coaching staff continues to allow awful (OL, OLBs, anyone on STs, JJoe, Schaub) and/or dumbass players (Swearinger) play... Dumbass players continue to make mistakes and some continue to talk and act like jerks despite the fact they suck...
It's truly stunning how everyone at the upper levels of this organization has just allowed this crap to continue. Fine... Fire a coach, bench or pull a player, lose games... Have some balls and DO SOMETHING to make a statement!
I hear ya, but what does it really accomplishment? I'd put 99% odds that the staff will be blown up. Whether that includes the GM or not is TBD, but I don't think he's as safe as some believe. Whether it happens now, or Black Monday, that's irrelvant to me.
If anything, keeping these yahoo's around helps secure a top 5 pick....... :rolleyes:
popanot
12-06-2013, 09:34 AM
:rolleyes:
I hear ya, but what does it really accomplishment? I'd put 99% odds that the staff will be blown up. Whether that includes the GM or not is TBD, but I don't think he's as safe as some believe. Whether it happens now, or Black Monday, that's irrelvant to me.
If anything, keeping these yahoo's around helps secure a top 5 pick....... :rolleyes:Well, most of what I said should have happened weeks ago. But my main point is, regardless of the timing or if it changes anything this year, SOMEONE, please, just make a statement and show us that this is unacceptable and that there's a pulse and brain activity within the organization.
HPF Bob
12-06-2013, 09:48 AM
The ineptitude currently coming from this franchise - from the Owner, GM, HC, Staff, players, play on the field, game decisions, you name it - is just astonishing. It has become a failure at every level and every angle imaginable.
I think the most disappointing thing for me this year is no one is willing to take a stand or hold someone accountable. McNair continues to hide in his shell and allow Kubiak to coach... Kubiak continues to allow Marciano and other staff members to coach... Kubiak continues to make the same game mistakes over and over and over again... The coaching staff continues to allow awful (OL, OLBs, anyone on STs, JJoe, Schaub) and/or dumbass players (Swearinger) play... Dumbass players continue to make mistakes and some continue to talk and act like jerks despite the fact they suck...
It's truly stunning how everyone at the upper levels of this organization has just allowed this crap to continue. Fine... Fire a coach, bench or pull a player, lose games... Have some balls and DO SOMETHING to make a statement!
There's no point to firing people this late in the season. McNair is doing the right thing for now. Changes will come this winter when more coaches are available to hire.
14 penalties tells me the coaches have lost the players. Kubiak and probably Wade Phillips are no longer being listened to and that's a sign that everyone already knows the inevitable is coming.
It's all the more disappointing when you remember what we thought when the season started. I felt there would be some regression but nothing like this. I though 9-7, 10-6, win the division and then get bounced in the playoffs. Not this. I think that's why the fan base is so angry and impatient.
Joshua
12-06-2013, 10:34 AM
To try and make lemonade out of lemons, I don't think Kubiak ever was or ever is going to be more than a mediocre coach and what he accomplished the last 2 years is probably his ceiling. However, McNair would never fire him if he kept churning out 9-7 seasons. So, this year is hopefully the medicine we have to take to get a coach who can potentially take the team further. We'll see.
barrett
12-06-2013, 10:46 AM
There's no point to firing people this late in the season. McNair is doing the right thing for now. Changes will come this winter when more coaches are available to hire.
14 penalties tells me the coaches have lost the players. Kubiak and probably Wade Phillips are no longer being listened to and that's a sign that everyone already knows the inevitable is coming.
It's all the more disappointing when you remember what we thought when the season started. I felt there would be some regression but nothing like this. I though 9-7, 10-6, win the division and then get bounced in the playoffs. Not this. I think that's why the fan base is so angry and impatient.
I disagree Bob. We outgained them and could have won in the end. I think we are just snake bitten.
barrett
12-06-2013, 10:47 AM
To try and make lemonade out of lemons, I don't think Kubiak ever was or ever is going to be more than a mediocre coach and what he accomplished the last 2 years is probably his ceiling. However, McNair would never fire him if he kept churning out 9-7 seasons. So, this year is hopefully the medicine we have to take to get a coach who can potentially take the team further. We'll see.
+1
I've got a post during the SF debacle where I said I was rooting against us and hoping we went 2-14 so even McNair couldn't keep Kubiak. Never thought it could actually happen but WE DID IT!
popanot
12-06-2013, 11:47 AM
There's no point to firing people this late in the season. McNair is doing the right thing for now.Yep, McNair did the right thing and FINALLY made a statement. I doubt the Kubiak firing will change anything on the field, but it says enough is enough. Exactly what I was looking for. Next is benching DSwag's ass during a game when he's mouthing off and acting the fool on the field.
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