Official 2012 NFL Draft Round 2-3 Thread

[Keith]

...the search for Jacoby's replacement continues...

[WMH]

I'm seeing one of following for us in the 2nd:
Sanu - WR - Rutgers
Quick - WR - App St.
Massie - OT - Ole Piss
Adams - OT - OH St.

[popanot]

Hill has the measureables but my gut tells me Randle is going to be a better all-around WR and is a better fit for this team. I'm hoping they can somehow snag him, but they'll have to move up to get him. No way I wanted Fleener at #26, but he'd be intriguing in this offense and I might move up a few picks to get him if he starts to drop. I have a feeling he'll go to the Colts, though, since he's Luck's buddy and they have zero legit TE's on roster. If it's WR, I assume Jeffery, Sanu and Quick will all be there. Massie is intriguing. I don't think they touch Adams.

[NBT]

You could be entirely wrong about Hill. I think he will be a monster in a year or so. Randle may do well also.

[popanot]

You could be entirely wrong about Hill. I think he will be a monster in a year or so. Randle may do well also.Never said Hill will be a bust. I like him and he may very well have a nice career. I just think that Hill will be a straight-line speed threat, whereas, Randle will be a better all-around (blocking, slot, middle and deep) threat and fits better with what this team needs from a #2. JMHO. It's sort of the Mike Wallace vs. Antonio Brown syndrome. They're both great players, and one team might prefer Wallace's straight-line speed and another team might prefer Brown's all-around style. I think the Texans need a Brown-type WR as opposed to a Wallace-type WR (atlthough, I'll take anything to upgrade what we have now).

[nunusguy]

I'm listening to 610 AM radio right now and FWIW John McClain, a guest on the show, just said very confidantly that the Texans WOULD NOT take a WR UNTIL the 3rd round. I for one will be surprised if that scenario plays out, but we'll see?

[popanot]

I think I'd go CB or OL if Round 2 went this way:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/27/2012-second-round-mock-draft/

I'd probably take Trumaine Johnson or Josh Robinson over Sanu.

[Warren]

Jeff Fisher slammed his glasses and "uttered a one-syllable expletive" (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--rams-get-their-man-michael-brockers--ndash--after-their-first-two-choices-were-drafted.html;_ylt=AuH7It1abQTWn2pv53ZSz) when the Jags jumped up to take Blackmon in front of them, so it looks highly likely that one of those receivers comes off the board at #33.

[popanot]

Well, Quick was kind of unexpected so that drops down a couple of our guys.

[popanot]

Upshaw looks more like a 3-4 DE than a LB.

[HPF Bob]

Attn: Texans secondary. Your division now includes Justin Blackmon, Kendall Wright and Coby Fleener. Prepare accordingly.

[popanot]

@LaCanfora breaking Commish's request and tweeting upcoming pick well in advance of draft show. Bills - Cordy Glenn

[popanot]

He says Dolphins - Jonathan Martin

Hill to Jets

[Warren]

Here go the OTs.

[popanot]

Let's jump into that STL or PHI slot and take Randle.

[HPF Bob]

There went Glenn and Martin, the two I hoped would fall to us. Schwartz was already taken. Will it be Massie? Sanders? Potter?

There goes Hill to the Jets. Randle is still on the board.

[popanot]

CHI drafts Jeffery. Come on go up and get Randle!

[WMH]

CHI drafts Jeffery. Come on go up and get Randle!

SD is gonna grab him.......

[HPF Bob]

So, who's going to be the retired Texan when it's our turn? Domanick Davis? Aaron Glenn? Most of the guys they bring up are short so the Commish doesn't look like a dwarf.

[Warren]

So, who's going to be the retired Texan when it's our turn? Domanick Davis? Aaron Glenn? Most of the guys they bring up are short so the Commish doesn't look like a dwarf.

I'm thinking Davis, or whatever he goes by now. They've all been good (or better) retired players who were drafted by the team whose pick they're announcing. For the Texans that's a very short list to choose from. Chester Pitts is still active, isn't he? I doubt they'd pick him anyway since he was very outspoken about Goodell during the lockout.

[WMH]

So, who's going to be the retired Texan when it's our turn? Domanick Davis? Aaron Glenn? Most of the guys they bring up are short so the Commish doesn't look like a dwarf.

Danny Clark.......

[HPF Bob]

Billy Miller would be a cool choice. Scored the first TD in franchise history.

[HPF Bob]

There goes I.P. Freely. The Rams are building quite an arsenal.

[popanot]

If the board holds true and no one trades up, I don't see any of the teams in front of the Texans taking WR and Randle makes it to their pick.

[WMH]

If the board holds true and no one trades up, I don't see any of the teams in front of the Texans taking WR and Randle makes it to their pick.

Cincy or Denver are possibles

[Arky]

Don't want to jinx it, but I'm hoping Konz makes it to us....

[Roy P]

I think Auburn's Brandon Mosely should be the pick and then WR Nick Toon in the 3rd.

[HPF Bob]

I could see the Bagels taking Randle.

[HPF Bob]

I think Auburn's Brandon Mosely should be the pick and then WR Nick Toon in the 3rd.

I could go with that but higher-rated OTs are still there and the only question would be whether they fit the ZBS.

If Mosely is what you want, take a WR now and take Mosely early in round three.

[HPF Bob]

There went Konz. Just two more left.

[WMH]

Pft is reporting we traded with Bucs

We got a 3rd and a 4th

[popanot]

Goodness, I'd rather just use the pick.

[Arky]

Yep, sounds like a trade.....

Our 3rd rd pick is that move-up pick with the Eagles so it'll be in the middle of the 3rd round - not towards the end...

Bucs have the 5th pick in the 3rd round.....

[HPF Bob]

Denver fans saying it's Osweiler. We're up.

[Arky]

So two 3rd's and three 4th's, now?

[jcp]

Another 4th is not bad...

2-3's
3-4's

= fresh depth

[WMH]

The #Texans traded their 2nd rounder (58) and 7th (233) to Tampa Bay for a 3rd (68) and a 4th (126). -- Houston Texans (@HoustonTexans)

[HPF Bob]

I guess the Texans weren't big Randle fans. That's twice we could have taken him.

[Warren]

We're going to dominate the first round (of Day 3).

[HPF Bob]

The #Texans traded their 2nd rounder (58) and 7th (233) to Tampa Bay for a 3rd (68) and a 4th (126). -- Houston Texans (@HoustonTexans)

That's actually pretty sweet. It seems like no matter where you trade down in the draft, you wind up with a fourth. :p

[Roy P]

Liking the trade. We can get a Big WR & a slot/KR guy. Plus a couple OL. Hell, we could get a luxury like an ILB to replace DeMeco Ryans.

[chuck]

I was annoyed with the trade at first until I remembered that the team has done unusually well in the third and fourth rounds over the last five or six years.

[Roy P]

I could go with that but higher-rated OTs are still there and the only question would be whether they fit the ZBS.

If Mosely is what you want, take a WR now and take Mosely early in round three.

I have Mosely as the highest rated OL who is a ZBS fit because of his athleticism... maybe Nate Potter or Tom Compton later on to develop, but Mosely could start day one.

[popanot]

This Randle drop makes me wonder if he's one of the other combine potheads.

[Roy P]

Has Andre Branch been drafted yet? Oh wait...the Packers have traded up...

[popanot]

Has Andre Branch been drafted yet? Oh wait...the Packers have traded up...Branch went early. I think to JAX.?.

[Roy P]

Branch went early. I think to JAX.?.

Yeah, I just saw the ticker...I got off work late and missed the first few picks. I started watching when Alshon Jeffery was taken by Chicago....Hayward at CB was the pick...

There is great promise with these 3rd & 4th round picks..We can fill some needs with solid players here. I wonder when Travis Lewis and Keenan Robinson come off the board.

[popanot]

WTH. Randle the NYG. Thats one scary WR corp.

[Roy P]

WR Juron Criner, Nick Toon, or Marvin Jones would be fine by me. I like all 3 more than reuben Randle. First, I got to take the RT though.

[popanot]

LOL! Colts take another TE. Luck's gonna get killed.

[chuck]

The Texans better not pick another white guy.

[chuck]

OF COURSE. Putas. x-(

[idymoe]

Here we go. Massie

[chuck]

I like his size and I like his blocking.

Who the hell is Danny Clark???

[idymoe]

Like I said, Posey!! I thought he looked very smooth at the combine.

[Roy P]

I would rather have TJ Graham over Devier Posey. :( Guess I can't love all the picks.

[chuck]

I don't know what's more surprising, the fact that a punter was taken early in the third or that the NFL Network has footage of him.

[nunusguy]

Strengths:
• Solid size and length
• Makes difficult catches
• Physical at line of scrimmage
• Top leaping ability
• Works the middle of the field

Weaknesses:
• Struggles to get separation
• Catches passes using his body
• Sloppy route runner
• Speed and explosion mediocre
• Lacks consistent focus

Injury History:
•None

Notes:
Suspended for most of 2011 season after multiple NCAA violations -- Top recruit out of high school -- Big bodied receiver with upside who has never been a consistent player.
http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/WR/DeVier-Posey.php
*****
Does not look like a Bob McNair kind of guy ?

[idymoe]

Mosley, Martin, Sanders, Massie, Ladarius Green, Brandon Thompson, Brandon Brooks, Ta'amu could be there at 76.

[machoneil]

He sounds well spoken on his radio interview

[nunusguy]

The Texans better not pick another white guy.
Wade wanted to move up and get the Boise LB, but they talked him out of it.

[HPF Bob]

Well, at least we didn't draft a punter. We drafted a Posey though.

[chuck]

Wade wanted to move up and get the Boise LB, but they talked him out of it.

They'll pick a white OL here.

[HPF Bob]

Adam Schefter reporting now that the Texans will attempt to trade Jacoby Jones.

[Warren]

Is the Big 10 the new Colorado St.?

[popanot]

Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter)
4/27/12 8:45 PM
Now that Houston has used a third-round pick on Ohio State WR DeVier Posey, the Texans will attempt to trade veteran WR Jacoby Jones.
LOL! Good luck with that, Rick!

[WMH]

Now that Houston has used a third-round pick on Ohio State WR DeVier Posey, the Texans will attempt to trade veteran WR Jacoby Jones. -- Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter)

Wishful thinking......

[HPF Bob]

Texans almost up again. Must be time for another commercial. I guess we never find out who was standing by to announce the Texans second round choice they didn't make.

[chuck]

Texans almost up again. Must be time for another commercial. I guess we never find out who was standing by to announce the Texans second round choice they didn't make.

Jingoism and then a commercial.

I bet the Texans fed the Jacoby trade story to McClain just to see where it went. Now they know.

[Arky]

2nd round complete:

1 Brian Quick WR Rams 79
2 Coby Fleener TE Colts 89
3 Courtney Upshaw DE Ravens 90
4 Derek Wolfe DT Broncos 84
5 Mitchell Schwartz OT Browns 81
6 Andre Branch DE Jaguars 87
7 Janoris Jenkins DB Rams 87
8 Amini Silatolu OG Panthers 87
9 Cordy Glenn OT Bills 91
10 Jonathan Martin OT Dolphins 89
11 Stephen Hill WR Jets 90
12 Jeff Allen OG Chiefs 89
13 Alshon Jeffery WR Bears 83
14 Mychal Kendricks ILB Eagles 82
15 Bobby Wagner ILB Seahawks 73
16 Tavon Wilson S Patriots 32
17 Kendall Reyes DT Chargers 86
18 Isaiah Pead RB Rams 78
19 Jerel Worthy DT Packers 91
20 Zach Brown OLB Titans 78
21 Devon Still DT Bengals 89
22 Ryan Broyles WR Lions 70
23 Peter Konz C Falcons 87
24 Mike Adams OT Steelers 86
25 Brock Osweiler QB Broncos 87
26 Lavonte David OLB Buccaneers 88
27 Vinny Curry DE Eagles 86
28 Kelechi Osemele OG Ravens 78
29 Lamichael James RB 49ers 79
30 Casey Hayward DB Packers 80
31 Rueben Randle WR Giants 88

[Warren]

G Brandon Brooks Miami (OH)

[chuck]

This guy's going to play guard? He's huge.

[HPF Bob]

ESPN really outdid themselves. Spent the past 20 minutes between commercial breaks and Russell Wilson. More Wilson. More commercials. More Wilson. More...oh, here's the pick...oops, more commercials.:mad:

[HPF Bob]

You just have to believe these were the guys the Texans targeted. Why else move down? Plenty of good receivers and OTs on the board but they reached for these guys. Must know something...

[nunusguy]

G Brandon Brooks Miami (OH)
Does not sound like a ZB lineman at all ?

[Keith]

This guy's going to play guard? He's huge.

Doesn't quite seem like the zone blocker the Texans normally seem to have in mind, but he looked good pushing people around from the MAC at least.

[idymoe]

That guy is huge. Ran a sub 5.0 forty. Wow.

[Warren]

Big, powerful, ideally suited for a man-blocking OL :confused:

[machoneil]

Goalline package definitely

[Roy P]

I guess he's going to play RG. Wonder how much weight he can lose and how quick he'd be at 319lbs?

[popanot]

Anyone think he might be targeted for RT instead of G?

[Roy P]

Anyone think he might be targeted for RT instead of G?

I think we draft another OL...somebody with quicker feet to play RT...wish I had all the 3-Cone drill times on the OT's left on the board.

[HPF Bob]

I know you guys won't like the suggestion but wouldn't a Jacoby-for-Colt McCoy deal make sense? Weeden gets another weapon and the Texans get a #2 QB behind Schaub with starting experience and local roots.

[WMH]

#Texans 3rd-rd pick Brandon Brooks started 41 games at Miami (OH)- 15 at LG, 14 at LT, 12 at RG -- Nick Scurfield (@NickScurfield)

Brandon Brooks: "blessing" to be drafted by #Texans. Said he's versatile, can play any position on OL. -- Houston Texans (@HoustonTexans)

[HPF Bob]

ESPN is now providing more overkill on Russell Wilson. Geez.

[Roy P]

OK...it looks like I was going to be "reaching" for Mosely at RT. So, now I am wondering if he's there & if we take him in the 4th? Do we go for ILB like Travis Lewis or Keenan Robinson? Will we grab a DB?

[Keith]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IQexemXLjsA
PFW says Brooks lacks a mean streak.

Tell that to the scout lackey from his pro day workout in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QiUcbhE8fTQ

[chuck]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IQexemXLjsA
PFW says Brooks lacks a mean streak.

Tell that to the scout lackey from his pro day workout in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QiUcbhE8fTQ

Hopefully not getting invited to the combine will put one in him.

I'll be fascinated to see if they intend to play him at RG or RT.

[Arky]

3rd round complete:

1 Dwayne Allen TE Colts 83
2 Trumaine Johnson DB Rams 86
3 Josh Robinson DB Vikings 82
4 Ronnie Hillman RB Broncos 59
5 Devier Posey WR Texans 57
6 T.j. Graham WR Bills 60
7 Bryan Anger P Jaguars 31
8 Josh Leribeus OG Redskins 54
9 Olivier Vernon DE Dolphins 79
10 Brandon Taylor S Chargers 78
11 Donald Stephenson OT Chiefs 71
12 Russell Wilson QB Seahawks 69
13 Brandon Brooks OG Texans 79
14 Demario Davis OLB Jets 72
15 Michael Egnew TE Dolphins 69
16 Brandon Hardin S Bears 62
17 Jamell Fleming DB Cardinals 71
18 Tyrone Crawford DE Cowboys 75
19 Mike Martin DT Titans 78
20 Mohamed Sanu WR Bengals 68
21 Bernard Pierce RB Ravens 71
22 Dwight Bentley DB Lions 81
23 Sean Spence OLB Steelers 64
24 John Hughes DT Browns 35
25 Nick Foles QB Eagles 84
26 Akiem Hicks DT Saints 63
27 Jake Bequette DE Patriots 60
28 Lamar Holmes OT Falcons 31
29 T.y. Hilton WR Colts 75
30 Brandon Thompson DT Bengals 87
31 Jayron Hosley DB Giants 70
32 Tony Bergstrom OG Raiders 60

[Nconroe]

I really like the draft so far. Posey could have been rated a lot higher but for 10 game suspension. 6'2" 211 lbs, he had a great interview on 610.

Brooks seems like fantastic measureables, road grader, could be great as he matures.

Three picks in fourth should be fun tomorrow.

[sinnister]

WR Juron Criner, Nick Toon, or Marvin Jones would be fine by me. I like all 3 more than reuben Randle. First, I got to take the RT though.


I like Randle better than those 3. He did deal with a terrible qb in Jordan Jefferson and Lee as well. I do like Toon, Jones, and T.Y. Hilton intrigues me.

[Keith]

A mystery offensive lineman taken in the 3rd round... no one gettin a Seth Wand vibe here?

No? Ok, good. Move along. :p

[TheMatrix31]

Hopefully this Posey guy isn't as low-character as it seems.

[HPF Bob]

Hopefully this Posey guy isn't as low-character as it seems.

Jim Tressel vouches for his character...

[chuck]

Hopefully this Posey guy isn't as low-character as it seems.

I may be powerfully naive but this guy's transgressions don't really bother me that much. He made some mistakes, sure, but it's not like he was selling drugs out of his dorm room or he beat up his girlfriend.

[barrett]

I may be powerfully naive but this guy's transgressions don't really bother me that much. He made some mistakes, sure, but it's not like he was selling drugs out of his dorm room or he beat up his girlfriend.

Seriously. He sold memorabilia.

Tressel lying and covering things up from his morals pedestal was the only one I had a problem with in that whole scenario.

[HPF Bob]

CBS Sports analysis of Posey:

Positives: Good quickness off the line. Has size and quickness to get off NFL press. Generally reliable receiver capable of making difficult catches in traffic over the middle or one on one down the sideline. Adjusts to poor throws in any direction. Finds his way through traffic on crossing routes. Comes back to the ball to help his scrambling quarterback. Gives effort as a blocker on run plays. Negatives: Inconsistent high-pointing passes. Allows too many throws into his body when facing the quarterback. Does not own elite speed. Freezes at times when trying to juke defenders in space. Walls off his man as a blocker, allowing them to shed and make the play outside.

[HPF Bob]

CBS Sports analysis of Brooks:

Strengths: Possesses a physically imposing frame with broad shoulders and a wide base - big body with a strong, thickly built frame. Has good natural strength and raw power with the ability to be a mauler in the run game. Plays with a firm base with a stout anchor, holding his ground at the point of attack. Keeps his pad level low and flashes consistent leverage. Stays balanced and patient in his stance. Has overpowering upper body strength to overwhelm and eliminate defenders from the play - jolts with his hands and shows a strong initial push. Quick off the snap and moves well for his size. Offers versatility with experience at left tackle and both guard spots. Has very good starting experience as a four-year starter (42 career starts) and was honored as a Second Team All-MAC performer three-years in a row (2009-11).

Weaknesses: Has some bad weight on his frame and has added over 60 pounds since he enrolled at Miami (OH) - something that needs to be monitored. Carries a lot of weight and it shows at times, looking sluggish with heavy feet when trying to cover a lot of ground. Doesn't have great range and wasn't asked to do a lot of pulling for the Redhawks. Doesn't always explode off the snap. Heavy-handed in pass protection with a bad habit of grabbing, which attracts holding penalties. Will allow his body to rise at times and he is caught too high. Needs to improve his awareness and overall vision to pick up extra rushers. Needs to stay disciplined and play smart, cutting down on the penalties and mental lapses. Has an inconsistent mean streak and needs to develop more of a finishing attitude - too much of a passive blocker for his size

Hmm. I can see some Seth Wand similarities although more experienced at a higher competition level. Sounds like a guy that really needs to be pushed both on and off the field (and away from the cafeteria).

[NBT]

Never said Hill will be a bust. I like him and he may very well have a nice career. I just think that Hill will be a straight-line speed threat, whereas, Randle will be a better all-around (blocking, slot, middle and deep) threat and fits better with what this team needs from a #2. JMHO. It's sort of the Mike Wallace vs. Antonio Brown syndrome. They're both great players, and one team might prefer Wallace's straight-line speed and another team might prefer Brown's all-around style. I think the Texans need a Brown-type WR as opposed to a Wallace-type WR (atlthough, I'll take anything to upgrade what we have now).

Let's not get caught up in semantics here. I didn't say you thought Hill would be a bust, only that Hill would be a better Pro. I just think you are wrong on that score.

[popanot]

Let's not get caught up in seantics here. I didn't say you thought Hill would be a bust, only that Randle would be a better Pro. I just think you are wrong on that score.Yeah, I see that. Thanks!