Schaub to Miss "Some Time"

[WMH]

Uh Oh.....

@TexansVoice: Kubiak: Matt Schaub has a significant foot injury that is being evaluated currently....will see specialists...will miss some time

@TexansVoice: Matt Leinart will start against Jacksonville

@NickScurfield: Kubiak on Schaub: "Gonna miss some time. We're going to do everything we can to get it evaluated correctly and see if we can get him back."

@evansilva: ESPN's Adam Schefter on #Texans QB Matt Schaub: "Earlier this morning, I was told that he has a Lisfranc injury."

[Fonz the Boss]

Don't know the severity of the injury but it doesn't look good either way. If he needs surgery then he's done for the season. If he doesn't need surgery then we'll be lucky to get him for the playoffs. Again, don't know the severity of the injury but the fact that he played throughout the game still leaves me with some optimism.

[NBT]

Bum...Mer. Can we get up on Matt Leinart in the next two weeks?

[Arky]

Oy, 610 reporting more of the same from a Kubes press conference...

Wouldn't you know it? :rolleyes:

Realistically, it's next-man-up and Leinart's the man.... Only thing I see different will be the passing game - might be a little more dinkier and dunkier... My inner-optimist says this is not the end of the world.... Leinart is a quality backup, IMO....

[Keith]

This is why we can't have nice things!!!1

[Arky]

From the Chron (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2011/11/schaub-has-significant-foot-injury-leinart-to-start-at-jax/):

All the good news over the Texans’ 7-3 start turned bad today when they found out quarterback Matt Schaub has suffered a “significant foot injury,” according to coach Gary Kubiak.

Kubiak said Schaub will wear a boot on his ankle and then travel around the country next week seeing specialists in Indianapolis and Charlotte to determine whether he can play again this season.

Kubiak said Matt Leinart will start at Jacksonville when the Texans return from their open date.

Schaub was injured on a quarterback sneak in the second quarter during Sunday’s 37-9 victory at Tampa Bay.

He suffered what was believed to be a sprained ankle and played the rest of the game. He was barely limping in the dressing room after the game.

Schaub hasn’t missed a start since the 2008 season. He started every game the last two years and through eight games this season.

[barrett]

We won't win important games with leinhart. This is disaster.

[WMH]

And then there's this.....

@adamschefter: Filed to ESPN: Texans quarterback Matt Schaub is out for the season with a lis franc injury. Matt Leinart from here on in.

[HPF Bob]

ESPN crawl Breaking News: Matt Schaub out for season per Adam Schefter.

[Warren]

Gulp. Well, if Leinart's going to re-establish himself as a potential NFL starter now's his chance. Kubiak supposedly really wanted him back this summer, so we'll see.

It'll be interesting to see if they bring in a veteran to compete with Yates for the #2 spot, but the picking are pretty slim. Patrick Ramsey, who they had some interest in a few years ago? Craig Nall?

[Fonz the Boss]

Leinart will do enough for our offense to limp into the playoffs. Then we'll get our butts handed to us in the first round by Baltimore or the Jets.... We're done

[Nconroe]

Obviously not good news. Kubiak on 610 would not confirm lizfranc injury or out for season. But Scgaub would be seeing specialists this next wk. And Leinart will start against Jacksonville.

If it is lizfranc this is a mid foot fracture. Severity depends on if bone shifted.

I had this in HS , wore a cast with heel and walked on it for 4 weeks then rehabbed two weeks so must have been a minor hairline fracturre.

I think Leinart can do ok, we will see soon enough.

We do have a good defense and good ground game and Andre coming back so trying to stay positive.

[TheMatrix31]

We need an exorcism.

[HPF Bob]

Please, please, please don't take him to Yao's foot surgeon.

Roethlisberger leaves Houston with a boot on his foot and doesn't miss a week. Schaub leaves Tampa with less than that and he's done for the year.

Just shoot me.

A quick look at Wikipedia says non-surgery treatment is out six weeks. If screws are inserted, recovery time is 6-12 weeks. That tells me that there's a chance he could come back for the playoffs in a best-case scenario. Keep in mind, those estimations are for typical patients, not athletes.

[nunusguy]

Leinart will do enough for our offense to limp into the playoffs. Then we'll get our butts handed to us in the first round by Baltimore or the Jets.... We're done
If we can play well enough to win the division with our backup QB and get to the playoffs, then the season is a success and its the greatest year ever for the franchise. So if we can go .500 in the last 6 games and end up with 10 wins the division is ours, but don't think that will be easy but it is still doable with Lienert.
No you are right, the hope to end up with something like a 12-4 record and get a bye and eventually a shot at the big game in Indy in February is surely gone with Schaubs injury, but crap happens and there's nothing we can do about it.

[JW295]

That bum Haynesworth always wanted to hurt Schaub. Now he’s got his wish. (http://thexlog.com/201111151013/xtra-point-football/nfl/albert-haynesworths-curse-on-matt-schaub/)

[HPF Bob]

Roethlisberger leaves Houston with a boot on his foot and doesn't miss a week. Schaub leaves Tampa with less than that and he's done for the year.

Just shoot me.



And to add further insult, Roethlisberger broke his hand Sunday vs. the Bengals - not expected to miss any playing time.

Just shoot me.

[WMH]

If Alex Smith can win, why can't Leinart?

Kubes is considered a QB "guru" and he wanted him back. And don't bring up Carr, he said what he had to say as he was trying to get a job. He came into the season knowing his ass was on the line, and he chose to bring him back. He's got the bye week, and a scrimmage against Jax to get him ready.

And yes, I am scrounging for any sort of optimism I can find.......

[NBT]

I'm sittin here thinking how glad I am that we have two weeks for Kubs to work with Leinhart to get him ready for Jax. We will need to be able to run the ball, as well as pass, because Del Rio will have a defense that will eat up a one diminsional game. And we have to change up the way we are going to pass block because Leinhart is a lefthanded gunner. Winston beware.

[cadams]

maybe they fall apart, but anyone who thinks that they can't win 3-4 of their remaining games with leinart is not being realistic. schaub is important to this team, but they aren't going to turn into the manningless colts due to this. the defense is good, the running game is good, and they play jax, carolina, indy, and tenn in 4 of their remaining games. they should be able to win all 4 of those no manner who the qb is. the defense gave up a total of 28 points in the three games against the titans, colts and jags(and these points were on drives starting at the texans' 8 and 26). the defense is not going to all of the sudden cave, the o-line isn't going to all of the sudden forget how to block, and foster and tate aren't going to all of the sudden start sucking.

this is definitely a blow to hopes of an afc title, but they should still get to at least 10 wins unless leinart is absolutely awful.

[chuck]

How bad can Leinart be? The team doesn't need him to be Joe Montana, they need him to hand the ball off to whichever running back is standing back there and to throw passes over the middle to the tight end and to roll out and stretch the defense with a shot downfield every now and then. Don't fumble, don't throw stupid interceptions. That's it. It's not like Schaub was doing much more than what I've mentioned.

Although I am very concerned about Leinart's being left-handed. Did you know a left-handed quarterback puts a different spin on a pass? In fact it spins COMPLETELY OPPOSITE to what a right-handed quarterback throws!

[Nconroe]

A few other lefty QB who have done pretty well are Steve Young, kenny Stabler, Boomer Esiason, Mark Brunnell, and Michael Vick. Hope Leinert ends up being mentioned with those guys in future.

[HPF Bob]

Although I am very concerned about Leinart's being left-handed. Did you know a left-handed quarterback puts a different spin on a pass? In fact it spins COMPLETELY OPPOSITE to what a right-handed quarterback throws!

For what it's worth, Trent Dilfer brought up the very same point yesterday and added that everyone will have to adapt to a lefty quarterback, from the runners taking the handoffs to the linemen who have to protect the blindside.

So, yes, I expect more drops and more botched exchanges.

[barrett]

For what it's worth, Trent Dilfer brought up the very same point yesterday and added that everyone will have to adapt to a lefty quarterback, from the runners taking the handoffs to the linemen who have to protect the blindside.

So, yes, I expect more drops and more botched exchanges.

Handoffs happen with both hands, and they have nothing to do with what hand the QB throws with.

[JW295]

Matt Leinart has drastically improved since he played with Arizona. Don’t be surprised if the Texans win a playoff (http://thexlog.com/201111160901/xtra-point-football/nfl/the-skinny-on-matt-leinart-and-the-houston-texans/) game. He was smart to choose Houston over Seattle.

[HPF Bob]

Handoffs happen with both hands, and they have nothing to do with what hand the QB throws with.

But handoffs happen like the snap exchange - instantaneously and without much thought because there are more important things the player has to focus on. Handoffs are like a dance and both partners have to have the timing down to the point that they can do it without thinking about it.

Supposedly, the Texans have been giving Leinart a healthy portion of reps in practice the past few weeks because Schaub was banged up so maybe this won't be an issue but if the exchanges become one more worry in the play execution, that could be a major problem.

[barrett]

So your concern is general familiarity rather than left handedness? I would hope an NFL team would be able to take care of a handoff. But if not we have 2 weeks of practice to worry about that.

[NBT]

.....And correct any mishaps on exchanges. Also for the WRs to get used to a left handed spiral on the ball. Two weeks should be plenty. And he is not exactly a stranger, he has been taking snaps all preseason, and during the week sometimes during practice. We should be ok in that regard.

[Fonz the Boss]

I believe it was Owen Daniels that said that they've been catching balls from Leinart for more than a year now so it is not a concern.

[painekiller]

.....And correct any mishaps on exchanges. Also for the WRs to get used to a left handed spiral on the ball. Two weeks should be plenty. And he is not exactly a stranger, he has been taking snaps all preseason, and during the week sometimes during practice. We should be ok in that regard.

I'm ambidextrous and can throw the football with both hands, I like to freak out people by throwing with alternate hands while playing catch. The spin is different, but it's not an issue. It's a mental thing. Now the ball will react differently with a left hander, but NFL receivers should have no issues with the change to a left hander.

The change of QB is a big deal, the change to a left hander is the lesser issue.

BTW I think Leinart will be OK in our offense.

[nunusguy]

My biggest initial concern about Lienart is that he's had virtually no exposure to "game speed" in 2 or 3 years (exhibition/preseason games don't count). And that's really disappointing because of the opportunities that Kubiak has had to put him in games this year where the victory was sewed-up early enough to get Leinart on the field with the first unit. Besides that's being "smart" to get your starting QB off of the field when there's no longer any doubt about the outcome of the contest.
And you can bet that we'll learn early in Leinarts first game with the Jags game about his ability to throw ball, because the Jags will load up the box with 8 or even 9 people to defense the run. OK yes that means Andre will have only one man on him, but Leinart still has to get the ball to Andre accurately under pressure.

[JW295]

Check out this great article (http://thexlog.com/201111171107/xtra-point-football/nfl/what-do-matt-leinarts-teammates-think-of-him/) about Leinart and what his teammates think of him.

[WMH]

Check out this great article (http://thexlog.com/201111171107/xtra-point-football/nfl/what-do-matt-leinarts-teammates-think-of-him/) about Leinart and what his teammates think of him.

What would you expect them to say to the media?
Very few speak the truth, and almost all of their quotes are the same identical statements as when Arian, Mario, and Dre went down. We will see next Sunday whether or not Leinart can pull this off or not.

I am clinging on to hope that he can manage the O and not do anything stupid, but the logic isn't there. If he can't succeed with the weapons and the D he has, he's done.

We shall see.

[painekiller]

I'm hoping that Leinart succeeds big time and makes his trade value go up to a 1st round or possible a multiple pick type of trade.

Kubiak has been in this situation before when he was the Offensive Coordinator for Denver. Bubby Brister in 1997 replaced John Elway for part of a game and started 5 games, The Broncos won all 5 games and later won the Super Bowl.

Granted Brister had started in the league with some success prior to this run, Leinart has not had success yet.

Again I will state that I like Leinart's chances and I hope we can trade him for a high draft pick after the season. I hear the Redskins are looking for a QB....

[painekiller]

If he can't succeed with the weapons and the D he has, he's done.

We shall see.

I agree that if Leinart fails in the next 6 games he is done as a possible starter in the league.

[HPF Bob]

This Leinart's shot at redemption and no doubt he will hear the word "bust" around his name for the rest of his life. If he's not supremely motivated to play his best now, he never will be. Kubiak, for all the grief he gets, has crafted a no-excuse offense. He has the backs and the line to make yards on the ground. He has two solid downfield threats, good dump-off options and a play-action scheme that should guarantee open looks downfield if he can sell the play fakes.

IOW, if Leinart can't excel in this offense, he'll never excel as an NFL quarterback. He has to know that. This is his chance to jump-start his career and be the star he always assumed he was. If he lives up to his potential, we'll be fine. If not, we give Yates a chance.

[Fonz the Boss]

So what would be a realistic expectation for the final 6 games?... 4-2? 3-3?

[WMH]

So what would be a realistic expectation for the final 6 games?... 4-2? 3-3?

Tough to get a read on it due to a QB that hasn't played in 2.5 years, and is now in a new Offense. I think we will still be favored in 5 of our last 6 (all but Cincy), for whatever that is worth.

[painekiller]

So what would be a realistic expectation for the final 6 games?... 4-2? 3-3?

Realistic if Leinart plays average to above average, 6-0 is possible. IMO worse case would be 3-3.

So I am going 4-2 as my goal.

[nunusguy]

Realistic if Leinart plays average to above average, 6-0 is possible. IMO worse case would be 3-3.

So I am going 4-2 as my goal.
See I think the floor would have been 3 wins with Schaub, but with Leinert it might be the ceiling ? Hope you're right and I'm wrong.

[Arky]

Realistic if Leinart plays average to above average, 6-0 is possible. IMO worse case would be 3-3.

So I am going 4-2 as my goal.

Ya, this is the way I see it, too. The first game against Jax is very important. If the Texans win and Leinart looks good, gains some confidence, then the high end (6-0) is certainly possible. 5-1 also has a nice ring to it....

Who'dve thunk at the beginning of the season that the Texans might enter the playoffs for the first time with Matt Leinart as the QB? :eek:

[Joshua]

I tend to agree that Leinart should get us through the regular season OK. While I don't think he'll be able to navigate the playoffs, I had the same concerns about Schaub and expected this to be the "learning" year where we gain some experience for future runs. I just didn't expect us to go from never making the playoffs to Super Bowl. Just seems like you have to get your feet wet once or twice first. What I hate about Schaub's injury most is that he will miss out on getting any playoff experience.

[WMH]

Looks like they are starting to build a file for a QB3....

So depressing...... :(

Former Rice QB Clement to work out for Texans
http://blog.chron.com/owls/2011/11/former-rice-qb-clement-to-work-out-for-texans/

Former Rice quarterback Chase Clement will work out with the Texans on Monday.

Rice quarterback Chase Clement was the MVP of the 2008 Texas Bowl at Reliant Stadium. (Brett Coomer/Chronicle)
The Texans are looking for depth at quarterback with starter Matt Schaub possibly out for the remainder of the season.

Clement has spent the past two seasons playing for the Las Vegas Locomotives of the United Football League. He led the Locos to the 2010 championship and was named MVP of the title game.

[Keith]

Former Rice QB Clement to work out for Texans.

Any reason why the Texans are limiting their search to a 5-mile radius they can conduct on their lunch break?

[HPF Bob]

Any reason why the Texans are limiting their search to a 5-mile radius they can conduct on their lunch break?

Because Case Keenum hasn't graduated yet?

[WMH]

Not to be Nancy Negative, or Chuck ;), but if we get to QB4, does it really matter who it is?

[chuck]

Not to be Nancy Negative, or Chuck ;), but if we get to QB4, does it really matter who it is?

You know, it's funny, despite all the bitching I like to do I am perfectly at peace with Schaub's going down. Either Leinart can play or he can't. If he can't the team will back into a conference championship and get humiliated in the first round by San Diego or Baltimore, just like I thought would happen before the Texans started playing like a real team.

If he CAN play, well, so much the better. Like I said earlier he really doesn't have to do too much. He needs to complete short passes, run the bootleg efficiently and keep the defense honest with a deep pass every now and then. It's not like Schaub was setting the world on fire with his short passing accuracy this year.

If anything this makes the season doubly interesting. Was Kubiak correct in his evaluation of Leinart? Kubes obviously thinks he can play. Is he right?

[nunusguy]

The first game against Jax is very important. If the Texans win and Leinart looks good, gains some confidence, then the high end (6-0) is certainly possible. 5-1 also has a nice ring to it....

If that scenario comes to pass, then we are home free ! I would fully expect us to challenge for the top-seed and compete effectively in the playoffs.
But I think Leinart will really struggle in Jacksonville. Dang, he has not taken a single snap in a regular season game since sometime in 2009, how could he not ? Say what you want about Leinart getting a lot of reps in practice the last few weeks because Schaub has been banged-up, how is that anything like game action during the regular season vs a very good defense like the Jags have ?

[NBT]

4-2, with a chance to run the table, is my guess. Heck if Leinhart can just hand off to Foster & Tate, we should be good for 4-2, and with AJ back, there is a more than even chance we run it out.

[JW295]

Check out this podcast on Leinart (http://thexlog.com/201111192143/xtra-point-football/nfl/can-matt-leinart-keep-the-dream-alive-in-houston/) and whether he will lead the team to success or failure. You won’t believe some of the comments.

[chuck]

Check out this podcast on Leinart (http://thexlog.com/201111192143/xtra-point-football/nfl/can-matt-leinart-keep-the-dream-alive-in-houston/) and whether he will lead the team to success or failure. You won’t believe some of the comments.

Can someone give me the gist of it?

[HPF Bob]

Chatty Casserly's breaking news this morning was that Schaub would seek a second opinion on his foot. :rolleyes:

Umm, we knew that.

[WMH]

Any reason why the Texans are limiting their search to a 5-mile radius they can conduct on their lunch break?

Branching out a little for ya:
@McClain_on_NF Jeff Garcia and Trent Edwards are working out for texans with Kellen Clemens and Brody Croyle.

[HPF Bob]

What? Not Tyler Thigpen? Where's Rosenchopper?

[WMH]

What? Not Tyler Thigpen? Where's Rosenchopper?

Thigpen is backing up Fitzpatrick @ BUF.
Rosencopter - I was wondering about him the other day. Saw this on Rotoword: Dolphins placed QB Sage Rosenfels (illness) on the Reserve/Non-Football Illness list, ending his season.

[Warren]

The Copter missed most of the preseason with the Giants due to a blood infection. The Giants put him on IR to start the season then released him after reaching an injury settlement last month. The Dolphins signed him (presumably after he passed a physical) but put him on the Non-Football Injury list after he began suffering from issues related to the infection.

[popanot]

I hope they're preparing Yates equally as much as Lienart at this point. One bad hit and it's his gig.

[Arky]

Just another Monday? Not with Leinart in the fold and Johnson back

Under the watchful eyes of Texans owner Bob McNair and Gary Kubiak – both of whom stood at midfield – freshly anointed starting quarterback Matt Leinart uncorked a tight spiral in route to Andre Johnson, who plucked the ball out of the air and turned upfield all in one motion.

“No. 80 is back!” shouted running back Arian Foster.


more... (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2011/11/just-another-monday-not-with-leinart-in-the-fold-and-johnson-back/)

[WMH]

Pretty decent interview with Leinart:
@SiriusXMNFL: Matt Leinart, QB of the @HoustonTexans , with @AdamSchein & @RichGannon12 earlier today on The SiriusXM Blitz http://tinyurl.com/brctvku #NFL

Also, this guy interests me more than any of the other 5 they brought in, isn't saying much, but TJ Yates scares the shit outta me.
@AdamSchefter: Filed to ESPN: Denver Broncos waived quarterback Kyle Orton today.

[barrett]

I really liked Yates in the preseason. He is not as efficient as leinhart but he took shots downfield and was mobile. Leinhart can steward a team for a few games (especially a really good team that doesn't need him to make plays). But Yates had promise.

[WMH]

I really liked Yates in the preseason. He is not as efficient as leinhart but he took shots downfield and was mobile. Leinhart can steward a team for a few games (especially a really good team that doesn't need him to make plays). But Yates had promise.

Agree, but not this year. If Leinart goes down, I would much rather have someone that has won games in the past than a 5th round rookie. Granted, our ship will start sinking, but at least an Orton would be somewhat of a hope for a life preserver. Can't expect much from a QB that's added in week 12, but he should be able to manage a game better than Yates.

I would imagine they would have to restructure a contract or two to get something like that done as well. Tricky, tricky.

[barrett]

The problem is that they are getting Leinhart as many reps as possible right now in practice. That makes it tough to bring a new guy in and get him up to speed. Any new guy they sign will have to absorb the plabook without practice reps.

[WMH]

Whelp, its official:
@JasonLaCanfora: From NFL.com: The Texans are putting Matt Schaub on IR, ending his season, and signing QB Kellen Clemens to back-up Matt Leinart

[HPF Bob]

That's too bad. I was holding out hope he'd be ready for the playoffs but I guess the second opinion came back the same as the first. That sucks.

Well, suck it up and think Earl Morrall.

[barrett]

We just finished 10 seasons where our starting QB could have been hurt in week 10 and I wouldn't have cared. Now we play truly relevant games in December for the first time (not like the pretend relevant ones 2 years ago where we needed 18 different teams to lose ahead of us), and we have to do the whole thing without our QB.

Playing the month without him is one thing. The idea of him coming back for the playoffs kept some hope alive. Now we are playing for the playoffs and the right to get stomped at home by Baltimore. Awesome.

[chuck]

Playing the month without him is one thing. The idea of him coming back for the playoffs kept some hope alive. Now we are playing for the playoffs and the right to get stomped at home by Baltimore. Awesome.

I know this is awfully rich coming from me but let's give him three or four games to see if he can be a competent replacement before we start giving games away to Baltimore or San Diego. You'd have to be pretty damn bad to screw up an offense with Andre, OD, Arian and Tate. And maybe he is, you know, maybe he'll be the second worst quarterback in the AFC. But I doubt it. Schaub wasn't carrying the team, he was managing the offense. I'm hoping Leinart can step in and do the same.

[barrett]

I agree Schaub wasn't being asked to carry the team. But I really believe what made our offense unique and so effective was the balance. No team in the NFL was better in terms of Run/Pass. After AJ went down the balance was thrown off, teams loaded up, and we saw that we are not the "impose your will" running game we thought we were. Our bootleg passes and stretch runs are a great chicken and egg type of thing for defenses to deal with.

Kubiak did the coaching job of his career to get long TDs on the throwback from the boot action to Dreesen, Foster, and JJ in successive weeks to scare teams back into being bludgeoned by our run game. We will now face that process all over again.

And my concern with Leinhart is that he does not push the ball down field. Look at the Redskins. They recently went to Beck because of his mobility. But after a few weeks they had to switch back to Grossman because Kyle Shannahan kept calling downfield plays that Beck would checkdown every time. Leinhart has always been that guy. He was that guy at USC but his checkdowns went to Bush and Mike Williams and turned into long gains that made him look good. He was that guy in Arizona and got benched and then cut for it. He was that guy in every preseason game this year for the Texans. He just doesn't push the ball downfield.

And teams know that. They will gameplan for that. With Schaub in, every safety had to worry about the deep route, the middle drag to OD, the flat, and the running play. And they all failed miserably. Now they will camp on the LOS and figure they can recover to the short routes, and if not surrender a medium gain and make us go 10+ plays with a compromised running game for every score. So Schaub was not throwing it that much, but his past success and his ability to gouge teams deep gauranteed a defense respected/feared our passing game.

Or I am an alarmist, and the Leopard will change the spots he has had for nearly a decade sample size. Believe me, I really want to be wrong here.

[NBT]

I always try, not always succeed, to be a glass half-full type of guy. I am with Chuck on this one, and believe that maybe the Leopard hasn't so much changed his spots, as molted into something that will get us through the next several games. Leinhart did it, albeit in college, so we know he has the basic ability. He mostly needed to mature and study more film of the next opponents. I may even have a few more Kool-Aids duringf this Sundays game.

[barrett]

I basically feel what you guys feel but am trying to stay grounded so I am not crushed in January.

I also like leinhart but think ours is not the caretaker job it's being made out to be. We need the QB to make big plays in the passing game and that's not his thing.

[edo783]

I basically feel what you guys feel but am trying to stay grounded so I am not crushed in January.

I also like leinhart but think ours is not the caretaker job it's being made out to be. We need the QB to make big plays in the passing game and that's not his thing.

This is very true.

[chuck]

I basically feel what you guys feel but am trying to stay grounded so I am not crushed in January.

And I'm totally down with what you're saying but if the Jags or anyone else puts 8 or 9 guys in the box Andre and/or OD will be one on one with some poor bastard and if a quarterback can't find OD covered by a LB or Andre covered by anyone then we do indeed have troubles.

I'm not selling short the responsibilities that Leinart is assuming, I'm just saying he does not have to carry the team for the Texans to be successful.

[Warren]

I did some reading up on Leinart's problems in Arizona. One of the biggest was a poor work ethic, but maybe getting cut was a wake up call and the Texans have only said good things about him in that regard going back to the end of last year. Another issue was poor footwork causing him to tend to be high on his throws, which didn't endear him to the receivers who he hung out to dry. He also had some fumble problems when taking big hits in the pocket. It will be interesting to see how he's progressed because all of these seem correctable.

[Arky]

Ya, this is the way I see it, too. The first game against Jax is very important. If the Texans win and Leinart looks good, gains some confidence, then the high end (6-0) is certainly possible. 5-1 also has a nice ring to it....

Who'dve thunk at the beginning of the season that the Texans might enter the playoffs for the first time with Matt Leinart as the QB? :eek:

I need to revise this:

Who'dve thunk at the beginning of the season that the Texans might enter the playoffs for the first time with TJ Yates as the QB? :eek: