Official Texans @ Saints Game Thread, 9/25/2011

[Keith]

This is the place for all the game action conversation as the Texans travel to New Orleans in an effort to prove how different their 2011 season will be from the past.

[WMH]

Going with 2 RB's this week....hope they hold up.
Glad to see Vilma and Porter are out. Should be a great, explosive game.
Interesting they deactivated the 3rd QB, as well as Anderson.

From the Chronic:

Running back Arian Foster will not play against the Saints. He was made inactive. Ben Tate will start, and Steve Slaton will back him up.

Other inactives are cornerback Sherrick McManis, offensive tackle Andrew Gardner, quarterback T.J. Yates, receiver David Anderson, running back Derrick Ward and guard Thomas Austin.

Among the inactives for the Saints are three starters: receiver Marques Colston, cornerback Tracy Porter and middle linebacker Jonathan Vilma.

[Arky]

Texans win the toss and will receive.

Manning only gets back to the 13 yard line on the kickoff.

[Arky]

Flag presnap. D Brown offsides -5. 1st and 15.

Schaub bootlegs and can't find a receiver, throws it away. 2nd and 15 coming up.

Tate for about 1. Makes it 3rd and 14 coming up.

Pass to AJ gets about 14 and the 1st down.

Deep pass down the left sideline to AJ goes all the way to the Saints 46.

Pass to OD over the middle good for 12.

Slaton sweeps right for about 5. 2nd and 5 coming up at the Saints 26.

Flags presnap - game clock needs resetting - no foul.

Tate powers to the Saints 15 yard line, 1st down.

Tate goes left for about 1.

Pass over the middle to OD good for the TD!

Texans 7, Saints 0

10:13 left in the 1st quarter.

[Big Texas]

I am so excited that we did not just play into what the expected us to do thus far. Keep it up Kube.

[Big Texas]

Thats what I'm talking about Kube...Keep it up...

[WMH]

That was freaking impressive....

:D

[Arky]

Hartmann's kickoff goes out of the endzone so Saints ball at their 20.

Brees stumbles after taking the snap and goes down -3. 2nd and 13 coming up.

Thomas for about 2. 3rd and 11 coming up.

Pass to Moore good for about 14 and a 1st down.

Pass to Graham over the middle goes inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Thomas gets about 9 up the gut. 3rd and 1 coming up.

Flags presnap. False start Saints -5. Makes it 3rd and 6.

Pass to Graham goes inc. Saints have to punt.

JJ fields the punt and gets nailed right away at the Texan 13.

[WMH]

Thor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Arky]

Ball at the Texans 14.

Tate for about 2. 2nd and 8 coming up.

Schaub's pass to OD comes up short, inc. 3rd and 8 coming up.

Pass to Casey beats the blitz for a huge gainer. Casey all the way to the Saints 22.

Tate for about 11. Ball is at the Saints 11.

Tate for 3 or 4.

Pass to OD in the endzone goes inc. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Pass to AJ only gets about 3 so Texans have to go for the FG.

Rackers 25-yarder is good.

Texans 10, Saints 0

3:17 left in the 1st quarter.

[Arky]

Hartmann's kickoff goes out of the endzone so Saints ball at their 20.

Pass to Henderson gets about 7 along the sideline. 2nd and 3 coming up.

Ingram for about 1. 3rd and 3 coming up.

Pass to Sproles, too low/dropped inc but flag on the play. Facemask on Saints is declined, Saints have to punt.

Punt goes out of bounds at the Texans 27 yard line.

[Arky]

Schaub can't find a receiver and loses about 3 on the scramble. 2nd and 13 coming up.

Johnson gets about 8 on the end around. 3rd and 5 coming up at the Texan 32. Saint is injured on the play. Injury timeout.

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Pass to AJ gets about 5, refs call in the chains. 1st down.

Slaton for maybe 1. 2nd and 9 coming up.

End of 1st quarter.

[Arky]

Pass to AJ gets about 14. Flag on the play. Illegal use of the hands against Myers brings it back. Makes it 2nd and 19.

Tate for about 5. Makes it 3rd and 14.

Dump to Casey only gets about 8 so the Texans have to punt.

Sproles brings the punt all the way back to the Saints 48 but flag on the play. Block in the back on Saints places the ball at the Saints 14.

[Arky]

Dump to Thomas gets about 7. 2nd and 3 coming up for the Saints.

Ingram runs left for big gain. Ball at the Saints 38.

Pass to Meachem good into Texan territory at the 49.

Ingram TFL by Cush -1.

Shovel pass to Thomas gets 13 and a 1st down.

Thomas wrapped up by Cody for only a gain of 1.

Sproles goes right for 6. Makes it 3rd and 3.

Sproles takes it to the house on a pitch right, 30 yards.

Texans 10, Saints 7

8:23 left in the half.

[Arky]

Saints kickoff goes out of the endzone so Texans ball at their 20.

Pass to AJ goes for huge gainer! Ball at the Saints 32.

Pass to OD goes all the way to the Saints 9! 1st and goal at the 9!

Dump to JJ goes nowhere. 2nd and goal at the 9.

Schaub pass to OD comes up short. 3rd and goal.

Timeout Texans.

Gotta have 7 here, fellas.....

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Owch, quick pass off the mark to AJ. Texans have to go for the FG.

Texans 13, Saints 7

6:20 left in the half.

[Arky]

Sproles brings Hartmann's kickoff back to the Saints 28.

Whoop! JJo picks Brees! Texans ball at the Saints 34!

[Arky]

Tate for about 2. 2nd and 8 coming up.

Tate goes left for nice gainer - all the way to the Saints 14.

Tate for no gain.

Tate rumbles to the 8. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Timeout Saints, 4:00 left in the half.

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Dump pass to OD comes up short. Texans will go for the FG.

Rackers 27-yarder is good.

Texans 16, Saints 7

3:53 left in the half.

[Big Texas]

Well, well, well...JJo has more picks this year than Asomugha.

[Big Texas]

While our zone blocking scheme is very effective between the 20's, the lack of size on our Oline causes major issues in the redzone...We need to get some 7s on the board. We should be up 28-7 right now.

Look for Brees to bring out the guns, for this last two minutes.

[Arky]

Sproles brings the kickoff back to the Saints 21.

Pass to Meachem good for 10, 1st down.

Pass to Meachem sails inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Henderson big gainer, goes all the way to the Texan 25.

Ingram for 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.

2 minute warning.

[Arky]

While our zone blocking scheme is very effective between the 20's, the lack of size on our Oline causes major issues in the redzone...We need to get some 7s on the board. We should be up 28-7 right now.

Look for Brees to bring out the guns, for this last two minutes.

Schaub's thrown some lousy passes in the redzone....:(

[Arky]

Brees is sacked by Watt! Loss of 10, makes it 3rd and 17.

Dump to Sproles goes for nice gain but comes up short of the 1st down. Saints are going for it on 4th and 2.

Timeout Saints. 38 seconds left in the half.

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Saints change their mind and go for the FG.

Kasay's FG is good from 35.

Texans 16, Saints 10

35 seconds left in the half.

[Arky]

Kickoff by the Saints goes out of the endzone so Texans ball at their 20.

Tate goes right for 7. 2nd and 3 coming up.

Clock runs out. Halftime.

Score remains:

Texans 16, Saints 10

[Arky]

Halftime stats:

Passing: Schaub 11/17, 223 yards, 1 TD

Rushing: Tate 12/66, Slaton 2/7, AJ 1/8

Receiving: AJ 5/104, Casey 2/70, OD 3/49, JJ 1/0

Tackles: GQ/Watt 3 each, Allen/Ryans/Cushing/Nolan 2 each

Time of possession: Texans 17:25, Saints 12:35

1st downs: Texans 11, Saints 7

3rd down efficiency: Texans 3/7, Saints 2/5

Redzone: Texans 1/4, Saints 0/1

Penalties: Texans 2/15, Saints 2/14

Turnovers: Texans 0, Saints 1

Total yards: Texans 301, Saints 177

[Big Texas]

They refuse to give our team credit...."As bad as the Saints are playing"...really!?!...How about the Texans defense is playing really well.

[Arky]

Sproles brings the 2nd half kickoff back to the Saints 27.

Flag presnap. Encroachment on Cody, makes it 1st and 5.

Pass to Moore good for 19.

Dump to Moore gets about 2. 2nd and 8 coming up.

Dump off is sniffed out by DeMeco, TFL -3. 3rd and 11 coming up. Strief is injured on the play.

Pass over the middle to Meachem is good for the 1st down at the Texan 39.

Saints rush for 2. Makes it 2nd and 8.

Pass to Graham goes all the way to the Texan 4. 1st and goal.

Thomas for 2. 2nd and goal.

Brees has all day and finds Meachem in the endzone for the TD.

Saints 17, Texans 16.

10:34 left in the 3rd quarter.

[Big Texas]

Clearly the Saints have went into the half with the intent on making half-time adjustments. And they did just that...That's what makes a winning team...

Time to see if we are as good as we should be...

[Arky]

Manning brings the kickoff back to the Texan 27.

Pass to Casey too long, inc. Makes it 2nd and 10 coming up.

This one good to Casey for about 14, 1st down.

Tate for 4 or 5 but flag on the play. Offsides Saints, makes it 1st and 5 at the Texan 47.

Tate gets 2. 2nd and 3 coming up.

Slaton gets 2. 3rd and 1 coming up.

Pass to AJ goes to the Saints 37, 1st down.

Schaub misses Tate on the dump off. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pitch to Casey goes right side for 11, 1st down.

Tate motors for 8 or 9. Makes it 2nd and 2.

Slaton TFL -2. Brings up 3rd and 4.

Pass to AJ goes inc. Should've been PI on Saints. Texans to go for the FG.

Rackers 36-yarder is good.

Texans 19, Saints 17

5:08 left in the 3rd quarter.

[Big Texas]

Oh my goodness...I don't know whether to be upset with Kubiak for not calling another play when Slaton came in...

OR

Mad at Slaton for that pathetic attempt at picking up that first down....


We are gonna be known as the best field goal kicking team in the NFL

[Big Texas]

We cannot get into a shootout with this team. COME ON DEFENSE...

[Big Texas]

We are getting no pass rush...

[Arky]

Hartmann's kickoff hits the goalpost so Saints ball at their 20.

Brees can't find a receiver and scrambles for 4. 2nd and 6 coming up.

Screen goes nowhere - nice tackle by Cush. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Pass to Moore gets 7 and the 1st down.

Brees pitches it forward to (Sproles?) for a couple of yards. 2nd and 8 coming up. Mario shaken up on the play. Injury timeout...

[Arky]

On 2nd and 8, pass to Graham is broken up by Nolan. Makes it 3rd and 8.

Pass to Henderson gets 10 and the 1st down.

Brees' pass is INT'ed by Manning! Return places it at the Saints 42!

[Big Texas]

YES SIR...Both free agent acquisitions with picks today...


Now lets get in the endzone...

[Arky]

Pass to AJ gets 12, 1st down.

Tate powers for 8 on the left side. 2nd and 2 coming up. Less than a minute in the 3rd quarter.

Tate TFL -4, makes it 3rd and 6.

End of the 3rd quarter.

[Arky]

On 3rd and 6 at the Saints 26, what a catch by Thor! TD! 26 yards!

Texans 26, Saints 17

14:54 left in the game.

[WMH]

Thor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheMatrix31]

Casey is big-time. Thank goodness we converted that turnover for seven.

Let's go D.

[Arky]

Hartmann's kickoff is downed by Sproles in the endzone so Saints ball at their 20.

Thomas rushes for 7. Brings up 2nd and 3.

Thomas gets 4, 1st down.

Pass to Thomas is broken up by DeMeco. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Brees is sacked by A Smith! -7 yards! 3rd and 17 coming up.

Pass(?) to Sproles doesn't get much - Saints have to punt.

JJ gets a modest return but flag on the Texans on Reed (block in the back). Places the ball at the Texan 14.

I'd like a nice time-consuming drive that ends up in a score, please...

[Arky]

Ow, Tate can't hang on to the dump pass. Makes it 2nd and 10.

Tate for about 1. 3rd and 9 coming up. Less than 12 minutes left in the game.

Schaub is pressured, pass is too tall for AJ, Texans have to punt.

Hartmann's punt goes out of bounds at the Texan 49. Saints ball.

11:20 left in the game.

[Arky]

Pass to Sproles gets 10, 1st down.

Brees pass is batted up in the air, inc. Jamison on the block.

Pass to Sproles comes up about 1/2 yard short of a 1st down. Makes it 3rd and 1.

Ingram gets 3 and the 1st down at the Texan 27.

Brees' pass to Graham down the sideline goes for the TD.

Texans 26, Saints 24

9:30 left in the game.

[WMH]

That was a mismatch.....

How's about a nice, long, time consuming TD drive..... Please?

[HPF Bob]

Now we get to find out if they are the same choke artists as last year or if they've learned how to put a team away.

[Arky]

Nice return by D Manning on the kickoff, brings it out to the Texan 34.

Deep pass to JJ is knocked down by the Saints. Makes it 2nd and 10.

Schaub is pressured and dump off to Tate goes inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.

Schaub's pass is INT'ed by Greer. Saints ball at the Texan 48.

[NBT]

I give Schaub a D so far in this game. He either throws too low, too high, or he gets intercepted.

And now Brees is chewing us up.

[Arky]

Pass to Meachem is good for 10 and a 1st down.

Slant to Moore gets about 9. 2nd and 1 coming up.

Same play gets 6 or 7 more and a 1st down at the Texan 20.

Pass complete for 4 yards. 2nd and 6 coming up.

Pass to Sproles goes inc. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Brees pass to Moore in the endzone is complete for the TD.

Saints are going to go for two....

Pass to Moore gets the 2 pts.

Saints 32, Texans 26

[NBT]

Looks we are crumbling in the crunch. Saints bringing it up a notch, and the Texans D looks played out.

[Arky]

Saints kickoff goes out of the endzone, Texans ball at their 20. 7:10 left in the game.

Tate for no gain. Makes it 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to OD gets 12 and a 1st down.

Dump off to Tate gets 8. 2nd and 2 coming up.

Tate for about 1. 3rd and 1 coming up.

Timeout Texans with 4:48 left in the game.

[Arky]

Dump to Casey gets good yardage and a 1st down. Ball is at the Saints 45.

Dump off to OD gets about 15 and a 1st down.

Schaub's pass to Casey down the sideline goes inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to KW gets 11 and the 1st down. Ball at the Saints 20.

Whoa! Crazy play..... Holding on Saints, but KW catches the ball that deflects off a couple of guys and runs it in the endzone! TD!

Texans 33, Saints 32

4:13 left in the game.

C'mon defense, do something!

[Big Texas]

Somebody please help Kareem Jackson

[Nconroe]

Boy do we need a stp now

[NBT]

We just don't have an answer for Drew Brees passing game. He is eating us alive. C'mon defense.

[Big Texas]

Please keep testing Joseph...I do not mind.

[Big Texas]

I almost wonder whether or not the TD was on purpose.

[NBT]

That TD was just to damn easy.

[Arky]

Sproles brings the kickoff back to the Saint 25 but block in the back on the Saints, 1/2 the distance to the goal places the ball at the Saints 6.

Quick hitter to Moore goes for 16.

Pass to Graham gets 12.

Pass to Sproles hits the turf first, inc. 2nd and 10 coming up from the Saints 34.

Pass to Sproles gets 11, 1st down.

Deep pass to Meachem goes inc.

Pass to Meachem deep down the sideline goes inc. Brings up 3rd and 10. 2:54 left in the game.

Pass to Graham is complete for good yardage and penalty on the Texans for unnecessary roughness add some more. Ball ends up at the Texan 13.

Ingram runs it in for the TD.

Saints to go for 2. Same play as before gets the two.

Saints 40, Texans 33

2:42 left in the game.

There's still time...

[Big Texas]

The commentators are getting on my nerves with this Bromance for the Saints.

[NBT]

Maybe, but you can see 'ol mo slipping to the Saints.

[HPF Bob]

I almost wonder whether or not the TD was on purpose.

I thought the same. It could be "last team with the ball..." And there's enough time to try to win it.

[Big Texas]

I hate the way Shaub looks when he has to come back from a deficit.

[Arky]

Manning downs the kickoff in the endzone. Texans ball at their 20.

Pass to KW good for 5. 2nd and 5 coming up.

Pass to Dreessen goes inc. 3rd and 5 coming up.

Pass too tall for Dreessen but flags on the play. PI on Dreessen. Makes it 3rd and 15.

Schaub can't find a receiver and gets sacked. Makes it 4th and 21 coming up.

[Big Texas]

Well there you have it...we all knew the blitz was coming...you would think a screen or quick dump off would have been the call...there was a lapse in judgement on that call.

[Arky]

On 4th and 21, deep pass to AJ is inc. Saints takeover on downs.

Ingram for 3. Ball at the Texan 7. Texans call a timeout.

Ingram slips for no gain. Texans use there final timeout. 1:44 left in the game.

Ingram gets about 2. Makes it 4th and goal at the Texan 5.

Saints to go for the FG with 57 seconds left.

FG is good.

But flag on the play against the Texans gives the Saints an auto 1st down.

Saints kneeling it out.

Final score:

Saints 40, Texans 33

[Nconroe]

Four field goals did us in from red zone. We had a great game overall though.

[Big Texas]

What I hate about the outcome of this game is not necessarily the loss, but rather the dumb ass headlines...


"Saints rally from a slow start"

"Saints put up an excellent second half"

"Brees overcomes slow start"

Nothing to do with the excellent effort of the Texans...:mad:

[Big Texas]

Four field goals did us in from red zone. We had a great game overall though.

Exactly...We still have that mentality of playing to our competition. We should have been up 28-10 at the half.

[HPF Bob]

Still the same Texans. And how many points did Wade Phillips' defense give up?

[WMH]

First half red zone issues came back to bite us a bit.

Not too worried about the yards/points, who really thought we were going to shut them down?

Great game, bummer of an outcome.

Looking forward to the Steelers game, should be another good one.

[Fonz the Boss]

I'm just glad this is not the same old Texans.... they fought hard and almost came away with a win. Phillips defense came away with 2 crucial INTs. It came down to the red zone FGs.... We wont face a better offense than the Saints this season... I'm a believer now

[TheMatrix31]

Sucks to lose, but I'm "fine" with losing to such a great team with an insane passing attack by only 7 points. Without Foster. WITH Kareem JAckson.

And we lose because we couldn't convert RZ opportunities into TDs. Tough, but last year we would have lost 49-13.

Saints are toughest matchup for Houston all year. And it's not a conference game.

Sucks that we got jobbed by the refs too. That ATROCIOUS personal foul call on Manning, the horrible O-PI call on Dreesen, and what was a non-call PI on a pass to Andre in the red zone that would have been a TD.

[chuck]

Sucks to lose, but I'm "fine" with losing to such a great team with an insane passing attack by only 7 points. Without Foster. WITH Kareem JAckson.

I cannot possibly convey how much this attitude infuriates and disgusts me. I don't care that a random fan such as you makes such a pathetic display; what bothers me is that this attitude is plainly visible within the organization, most evidently from its owner.

A competently run team would have won this game by three touchdowns.

[TheMatrix31]

Oh look. Hey Chuck.

[WMH]

I cannot possibly convey how much this attitude infuriates and disgusts me. I don't care that a random fan such as you makes such a pathetic display; what bothers me is that this attitude is plainly visible within the organization, most evidently from its owner.

A competently run team would have won this game by three touchdowns.

Your right Chuck. The Texans brass has done absolutely nothing to try to right the ship. They could have brought in a top flight DC this season, maybe a top 5 corner and a legit S to help our struggling D. Hell, I wish they would have used some of our top draft picks to help fortify our D. Man, that would have been nice. I'm sure ole Bob is perfectly happy saving all that money by not doing all that, so he can still rake in the profits.

Good call Chuck.

[barrett]

I agree with Chuck. There was nothing 'good' about this loss. A decent team is supposed to show up and do a few things right. A good team needs to do enough things right to win. We were not a good team today.

We got every break we needed. We opened up an early lead. And then we gave it away late.

We were up 9 and receiving a punt late in the game when we did this;

Blocked in the back to ruin our field position.
Tate drops an easy pass that would have gotten us out of the bad field position.
Schaub throws an interception.

And the rest is history. We may have some fans on here who hate it when we run the ball with a lead because it is not exciting or fantasy-friendly, but before the game I bet Kubiak would have paid any amount for the opportunity to have the ball up 9 late with a chance to put the game away with our running game (which averaged 4.4 yards per carry). But Kubs was feeling the pressure the Saints offense puts on you, so we come out throwing. Totally off script for our team and not how we put teams away.

That whole series makes me seriously doubt we are anything different than the team of the last few years that finds a way to lose. Now that team may be good enough to win 10 game and make the playoffs this year, but that was not a good football team today. It was a decent team and a respectable performance, and that anyone can be satisfied with that is sad.

[chuck]

I commend barrett's post highly. One other thing I'll add is that as good as Tate is and will be there is no comparison between Tate and Foster catching the ball out of the backfield.

[TheMatrix31]

I commend barrett's post highly. One other thing I'll add is that as good as Tate is and will be there is no comparison between Tate and Foster catching the ball out of the backfield.


Hmmmmmmm....uhhh....and you said my point reflected a pathetic attitude. Pretty sure I mentioned not having Foster being a killer dynamic missing to our offense, especially our red zone offense.

Not to mention Slaton backing up Tate today. Both were worthless. As was the OL. How can we do play action, especially in the red zone, when there are no rushers to respect?

[barrett]

Hmmmmmmm....uhhh....and you said my point reflected a pathetic attitude. Pretty sure I mentioned not having Foster being a killer dynamic missing to our offense, especially our red zone offense.

Not to mention Slaton backing up Tate today. Both were worthless. As was the OL. How can we do play action, especially in the red zone, when there are no rushers to respect?

I don't think the pathetic part was thinking Foster would help. After watching us let the game dribble down our leg in the 4th quarter today, my biggest hope is that if Foster is %100 we put that game away by stuffing it down the saints throat like we should have. Foster is a game changer. And Tate is solid. And like you noticed, the bigger problem may be that Slaton is not. Especially when we try to make Steve Slaton be Ron Dayne and run inside. He cannot do it. When he goes in the game the playbook needs to change unfortunately. But we asked him to be a square peg in a round hole.

The pathetic part had nothing to do with observing we miss Foster. It is about anyone who loses and says "that's ok, those guys are really good."

[Arky]

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The pathetic part had nothing to do with observing we miss Foster. It is about anyone who loses and says "that's ok, those guys are really good."

But Matrix didn't say that. He said he was "fine" with it (just like that - in quotations). He went on to say possibly last year we get blown out. So IMO, his point was the team is close but they are not there, yet.

Imagine a scale - on end of the scale you have the fans who think the Texans can do no right. On the other end of the scale you have the fans who think the Texans can do no wrong. In reality, it's not that binary - most fans make up the huge middle ground.....

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The way I see it:

1. You can't give up 40 pts and expect to win.

2. The defense in the 4th quarter was gassed, the pass rush was non-existant. Brees had all day.

3. Schaub has had better days in the redzone (understatement alert) and very good between the 20's.

4. It doesn't matter what I or anyone thinks. The Texans have to get back to work, fix their issues and go after Pittsburgh in a week....

[barrett]

Word it however you want. Being fine with losing when your team gives it away is not 'fine'.

[WMH]

Man o man....rewatched some of the 2nd half, KJ had a really rough go of it. Lack of pressure was critical there, but geez, the amount of cushion this kid gives is maddening. I'm assuming he is making up for his lack of speed, but geez.

Speaking of pressure, aside for the Ninja, and a Watt moment, we let Brees get entirely too comfy back there. He's not the easiest sack in the world, but didn't see him having to move around much.

Brandon Harris was active today, but I don't recall seeing him on D. Wonder if he gets a look next week?

[Arky]

Word it however you want. Being fine with losing when your team gives it away is not 'fine'.

So you disagree with his attitude? What, in your opinion would be the appropriate fan attitude in this situation? Anger? Why get angry over something you have no control over?

[barrett]

So you disagree with his attitude? What, in your opinion would be the appropriate fan attitude in this situation? Anger? Why get angry over something you have no control over?

Why get happy over something you have no control over? I would think the answer in both cases is because being a fan means it matters to you.

[WMH]

I think we should all get together and burn our couches......

That'll show our support!

[barrett]

I think we should all get together and burn our couches......

That'll show our support!

A good idea, but I'm not sure I'm ready for anger yet. I am more disappointed by this one. Now if we give it away against Pittsburgh next week, you just give me a time and place and me and my couch are there.

[WMH]

A good idea, but I'm not sure I'm ready for anger yet. I am more disappointed by this one. Now if we give it away against Pittsburgh next week, you just give me a time and place and me and my couch are there.

I hear ya. I was actually just reading something about WV, and to be honest, I never realized some folks took things that far....

Back at the game, I fully understand the disappointment, and the frustration, but the bigger tell for me will be whether or not we bounce back and play well again this week. We have seen just about all 3 levels of O's this year, IND - terrible, MIA - Average, NO - Elite. Not sure we have seen anything above average on the D level, so time will tell. In all honesty, I'm not so sure we have an elite D on our schedule this year....

I still believe we will be fine, but will be more of a believer if we come out and whoop the old ass Steelers.

They need to get back to that 1-0 stuff, starting tomorrow.

[Arky]

Why get happy over something you have no control over? I would think the answer in both cases is because being a fan means it matters to you.

I agree. But I think the difference is one fan's viewpoint is no better/more appropriate than the other. Matrix said nothing about throwing a parade (as the "hyperbolers" like to put it.)

I'm disappointed, mildly disgusted they couldn't get it done but beneath all that, I think this is their best team ever. They are this close >< but there are things to fix, still....

[chuck]

I agree. But I think the difference is one fan's viewpoint is no better/more appropriate than the other. Matrix said nothing about throwing a parade (as the "hyperbolers" like to put it.)

You're either unbelievably obtuse or deliberately disingenuous. (I'm guessing the former.)

I said that I don't care what Matrix thinks but the attitude he presents (he's "fine" with the loss because the team would have been beaten worse last year) is utterly despicable to me. I underscore this not because I care that Matrix thinks so but because it is plain to me that the organization operates on the same principle. You had the owner dancing around like a buttnut at a Judy Garland convention last year because after watching his team get its ass kicked in front of the world on Monday night his peers said, Why, Bob, your team does not suck nearly as much as it did in past years! And Bob said, OUTSTANDING!

And it's all the more painful to me because much to my surprise I realize that I am forced to admit that somehow or another these bozos have assembled a f*^%ing talented team. The Texans have more talent on their roster than the Saints do. It is not even particularly close. Yet some poor execution by Schaub and some incredibly puzzling sequences by our incredibly puzzling head coach turn what should have been a Texans rout into yet another heartbreaking loss. And some of you clowns think that's just skippy because last year the team wouldn't have kept the game as close. I'm sorry, I'm just not on board with that.

[TheMatrix31]

But Matrix didn't say that. He said he was "fine" with it (just like that - in quotations). He went on to say possibly last year we get blown out. So IMO, his point was the team is close but they are not there, yet.

Imagine a scale - on end of the scale you have the fans who think the Texans can do no right. On the other end of the scale you have the fans who think the Texans can do no wrong. In reality, it's not that binary - most fans make up the huge middle ground.....

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The way I see it:

1. You can't give up 40 pts and expect to win.

2. The defense in the 4th quarter was gassed, the pass rush was non-existant. Brees had all day.

3. Schaub has had better days in the redzone (understatement alert) and very good between the 20's.

4. It doesn't matter what I or anyone thinks. The Texans have to get back to work, fix their issues and go after Pittsburgh in a week....

Thanks, lol.

As we speak, the Steelers are an awful, awful team for failing to put away a team that they should. Earlier, the Chargers are an awful, awful team for letting arguably the worst team in football hang around. Also earlier, the Lions are overrated and garbage for being forced to come back against the Vikings to barely win in overtime.

And we lost to....the SAINTS. By SEVEN. ON THE ROAD. WITHOUT FOSTER.

The lesson to be learned is that, in the NFL...shit happens.

[Arky]

You're either unbelievably obtuse or deliberately disingenuous. (I'm guessing the former.)

Oh, you are funny, chuck (with no capital "C"). Pot meet kettle....


I said that I don't care what Matrix thinks but the attitude he presents (he's "fine" with the loss because the team would have been beaten worse last year) is utterly despicable to me. I underscore this not because I care that Matrix thinks so but because it is plain to me that the organization operates on the same principle.

So, because you can't or don't want to voice your complaints to the Texan organization, you figured you could just bash on ol' Matrix cause he's got that same darn attitude as they do, huh?


You had the owner dancing around like a buttnut at a Judy Garland convention last year because after watching his team get its ass kicked in front of the world on Monday night his peers said, Why, Bob, your team does not suck nearly as much as it did in past years! And Bob said, OUTSTANDING!

Right, I'm sure that is exactly how it went down. ;)


And it's all the more painful to me because much to my surprise I realize that I am forced to admit that somehow or another these bozos have assembled a f*^%ing talented team. The Texans have more talent on their roster than the Saints do. It is not even particularly close.

That's your opinion and if you want to believe that, you go right ahead. It's debatable at best - I'd trade Schaub for Brees in a heartbeat.


Yet some poor execution by Schaub and some incredibly puzzling sequences by our incredibly puzzling head coach turn what should have been a Texans rout into yet another heartbreaking loss. And some of you clowns think that's just skippy because last year the team wouldn't have kept the game as close. I'm sorry, I'm just not on board with that.

If you're unhappy with the team, then write the Texan organization a letter and voice your displeasure. We're all fans here. People deal with it in different ways. You complain too much, chuck. You take bitching to the next level. It's just a game - your going to have heart attack and die if you keep it up... jeez....

[chuck]

If you're unhappy with the team, then write the Texan organization a letter and voice your displeasure. We're all fans here. People deal with it in different ways. You complain too much, chuck. You take bitching to the next level. It's just a game - your going to have heart attack and die if you keep it up... jeez....

I have communicated my displeasure with the organization in the most strident and effective way possible, and thank you for your concern.

[Fonz the Boss]

The Texans are the worst team ever!!.... I want to burn my couch! :D

[cadams]

Dome Dogs were better than the current hot dogs served at Reliant Stadium, though the chop baker is an excellent addition.