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cadams
08-05-2011, 01:09 PM
I am a season ticket holder, and I am usually one of those that cusses the fact that I have to pay full season prices for two preseason games. Typically I look forward to the first preseason game because it is the first chance since early January to pull out the tailgating gear and get out to the stadium with my friends. the game is generally an afterthought.

this year is a bit different. not in that I have all of the sudden decided I am fine with being forced to buy preseason tickets, but I am actually looking forward to the actual game (at least the first quarter of it). I want to see how the defense looks, even if it will be watered down. I want to see how mario does from an upright position play-in and play-out. I am looking forward to seeing who will win out for the #2 and nickle corner spots, and I am interested in seeing how Yates looks.

NBT
08-05-2011, 06:16 PM
Yeah, and I want to see how Brooks Reed and Connor Barwin are taking to the SOLB. I want to see if anyone can give Kevin Walter a run for the #2WR position, just to name two.

Nconroe
08-14-2011, 05:42 PM
It will be nice to see the Texans out there again, although it is a preseason game with close to 90 guys to see some time.

On offense, I'd like to see Casey, Leinert, and the Wide receivers.

On defense, how the 3-4 works, Mario, Watts. Reed, and the secondary.

cland
08-14-2011, 07:20 PM
I'll add in the Nose Tackle position for our defense (and ILB schemes based around it.) My one nagging fear is that the run defense will be soft up the middle. Unfortunately, Nick Mangold will be out so it'll be tough to be 100% convinced regardless of the result.

cland
08-14-2011, 07:29 PM
Hehe I did look over 2012 NTs, and based on nothing but size and an article blip, I'll take this guy (http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2011/6/7/2205445/2012-nfl-draft-nose-tackle-prospects-josh-chapman-kerry-murphy-john-jenkins-kwame-geathers) in case the small nose tackle experiment doesn't go as planned:


UGA John Jenkins (Jr.)
6’4", 360lbs.

Jenkins was the big-get for the Bulldogs this year from the JUCO ranks and is expected to make a serious push to start week one. It’s rumored that despite tipping the scales at 360lbs. he has less than 10 percent body fat, can run the forty in 4.9secs, and can bench press 500lbs. While at Gulf Coast community college he was also used as a fullback on short yardage situations and was pretty much unstoppable.

Wow!!!

nunusguy
08-15-2011, 07:02 AM
Unlike Gary Kubiak, Jets coach Rex Ryan said Saturday that his plan is for his starters to play the entire first quarter.
Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7697554.html#ixzz1V68sLym1
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Good deal, atleast for our defense because they need all the practice/experience they can get against a starting NFL offense.

painekiller
08-15-2011, 09:16 AM
If you really look at it, 10 to 12 plays is real close to a first quarter in most games. That is 24 plays total.

In an average NFL game there is 120-140 plays. With the frequency of plays getting higher going into the half and the end of the game. The 1st quarters usually goes by the quickest, so I would guess that 24 to 30 plays is an average 1st quarter.

Now last years Texans, almost never got 12 plays in the 1st quarter, cause they would go 3 and out, and 3 and out.

Nconroe
08-15-2011, 01:02 PM
Since Jets use a traditional big body NT in their 3-4 might be fun to watch how Texans play 3-4 vs how Jets do it. 1 gap vs 2 gaps perhaps for NT, who rushes QB, who stops run, who drops on pass coverage, so on.

I sure hope we don't do a 3 and out twice with first team offense. First practice, I guess we will see extra penalties and so on.

several different analysis about the game
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/805896-jets-vs-texans-latest-analysis-on-preseason-monday-night-football-contest

and just about the Jets view of the game
http://www.examiner.com/new-york-jets-in-new-york/preseason-game-1-new-york-jets-vs-houston-texans-preview

NBT
08-15-2011, 02:37 PM
With my usual optimism, and allowing that it is only preseason, I think the Texans win the game.

Arky
08-15-2011, 02:52 PM
If you're watching at home (like I will be), I recommend printing out the roster list. Go here (http://www.houstontexans.com/team/roster.html) and click on the "#" (number) column to organize the list by number and just do a straight Print from there. If you use the website print feature, you'll end up with a 5 page list so don't use that - just use your browser Print or CTRL-P and it will only be about 2.5 pages....

Arky
08-15-2011, 07:01 PM
Kickoff due shortly....

Many Texan starters out ....

Arky
08-15-2011, 07:07 PM
Texans to receive the kickoff.

Demps brings it out to about the Texan 18...

Arky
08-15-2011, 07:08 PM
Ward for about 6 mostly up the middle. 2nd and 4 coming up.

Ward for -2. Makes it 3rd and 5.

Schaub sacked for 11. 4th and 16. Hartmann to punt.

Jets bring the punt back to the Texan 41 on about a 40 yard punt.

Arky
08-15-2011, 07:11 PM
Sanchez pass to Holmes out in the flat good for 5. 2nd and 5 coming up.

Shonn Greene for 5 and the 1st down.

Swing pass to Greene good for about 5.

Slant pass to Holmes good for about 10. 1st down.

Sharpton stops Greene for no gain. Ball at the Texan 14.

Pass to Mason good for 4. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Sanchez sacked by Adibi -5 or so. Jets to go for the FG.

Folk's 33 yarder is good.

Jets 3, Texans 0

8:39 left in the 1st quarter.

Big Texas
08-15-2011, 07:24 PM
After one offensive and defensive series...

1.) Mario looks uncomfortable

2.) Kubiak's first couple of plays still look terrible (just like last year)

run right, run left, pass (3 and out)

3.) Well at least we got a sack on a nice blitz to force Jets to kick FG

Arky
08-15-2011, 07:27 PM
Demps can't get loose on the kickoff and is downed at the Texan 10. (Where's Holiday?)

Dump pass to Ward picks up about 11. 1st down. Ward shaken up on the play.

Chris Og pushes for about 3.

Og gets about 5 more but flag on the play. Offsides Jets +5, replay 2nd down.

On 2nd and 2, Og gets close to the 1st down. 1st down.

Pass to OD just out of his reach - inc. Wide open.

Og for about 3. Brings up 3rd and 7.

Schaub's pass to KW off his hands - shoulda been caught methinks. Texans to punt.

Jets bring the punt back to their 31. Flag on the play. Holding on Jets - back 'em up 10. Ball at the Jets 21.

chuck
08-15-2011, 07:36 PM
Having seen this much I can say I was wrong about Watt. I'm a believer. He's good and going to be very good.

The rest of the team blows. They have no idea how to solve the Jets' defense and the Jets know exactly how to carve up the Texans' defense. The team has basically picked up right where they left off. I don't know how anyone could have expected anything else.

Arky
08-15-2011, 07:39 PM
Pass to Mulligan goes inc. - in and out of his hands. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Slant to Mason good for 12 and a 1st down.

Dump pass to Mason good for about 5.

Big hole for Greene - picks up about 20. Ball in Texan territory..

Sanchez sacked again. Watt and Mitchell combine on the stop. 2nd and 11 coming up. Jet's center Turner injured on the play - injury timeout.

Greene sweeps left for about 9 but flag on the play. Illegal blcok Jets makes it 2nd and 20.

Greene up the middle for about 7. 3rd and 13 coming up.

Flags, again. Encroachment A Smith. Makes it 3rd and 8.

Tomlinson gets about 4. Jets to punt.

Punt is a touchback. Texans ball at their 20.

:56 left in the 1st quarter.

chuck
08-15-2011, 07:41 PM
Speaking of picking up where we left off, Antonio Smith with an offsides penalty. Hilarious.

Nconroe
08-15-2011, 07:41 PM
Yeah, first preseason game, no ota, new defense, loty of starters out,
what else should we expect.

I like defense has got two sacks on two jets possessions.

Arky
08-15-2011, 07:42 PM
Schaub's pass to JJ over his head. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to KW good for about 9. 3rd and 1 coming up.

Og gets the 1. 1st down.

End of 1st quarter.

Arky
08-15-2011, 07:47 PM
Leinart in. Pass to Casey gets about 9.

Oggie for no gain. 3rd and 1 coming up.

Dump pass to Oggie goes for a big gainer. Ball at the Jets 31.

Pass to Casey inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Oggie -1 caught in the backfield. 3rd and 11 coming up.

Leinart's pass to Townsel a little behind him, inc. Texans to go for the FG.

Rackers 49 yarder is good.

Texans 3, Jets 3

Arky
08-15-2011, 07:55 PM
Jets bring the kickoff back to about their 28.

Jets new QB McElroy hands off for about 9 yards. 2nd and 1 coming up.

Runner is stopped in the backfield but flags on the play. Facemask on Jets -15.

Pass is broken up by McCain. 3rd and 16 coming up.

Sack by Nading! Fumble! Texans ball at the Jet 14!

Nconroe
08-15-2011, 07:57 PM
Looks lilke second team defense came to play. Another sack and fumble.

Big Texas
08-15-2011, 07:58 PM
This has to be the first game ever that we had 3 sacks...

Someone should look that up

Big Texas
08-15-2011, 07:59 PM
Offense looks pathetic...

At least the defense is looking good.

Arky
08-15-2011, 08:00 PM
Oggie for no gain. 2nd and 10 coming up. Injury on Texans line?

Leinart's pass to Graham good for 9 at the 4.

Oggie for no gain. 4th and 1 at the 4. Texans to go for it.

Oggie just barely gets the 1st down.

Rex really wants a timeout, lol..

chuck
08-15-2011, 08:02 PM
Not exactly dominating in the short yardage game.

Arky
08-15-2011, 08:06 PM
Oggie loses 1. 2nd and goal at the 4.

Leinart's dump pass to Oggie is good for the TD.

Texans 10, Jets 3

7:45 left in the half.

Big Texas
08-15-2011, 08:07 PM
Not exactly dominating in the short yardage game.

We do not have the personnel for the dive...Same ol Kubiak, trying to force the issue...

I am going to be optimistic though. Maybe he was setting up the play fake that got us the score...:D

chuck
08-15-2011, 08:08 PM
I am going to be optimistic though. Maybe he was setting up the play fake that got us the score...:D

Ha! That is EXACTLY what I'm sitting here hoping.

Actually, I'm standing, but still, yes, I'm with you.

Arky
08-15-2011, 08:11 PM
Jets bring the kickoff back to their 26.

Messy deep pass by Jets goes inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass is tipped inc by Reed. 3rd and 10 coming up.

Pass is INT'ed by Molden but flags all over the place... Molden illegal hands to the face - still Jets ball. 1st down.

Jets rush for 4.

Jets rush for 5. 3rd and 1 coming up.

McKnight rushes for 2 and the 1st down.

Arky
08-15-2011, 08:20 PM
Dump pass to Cumberland gets about 8. 2nd and 2 for the Jets at the their own 48.

Pass to Turner gets about 8 and the 1st down. Ball at the Texan 41.

Jamison with a big loss in the backfield -8. Makes it 2nd and 18.

Pass to Mulligan good for about 5 but flag on the play. Holding on the Jets - back'em up 10. Makes it 2nd and 28.

Turner catches the dump pass for about 6 yards. Makes it 3rd and 22.

Deep pass goes inc. McManis on the coverage. Jets have to punt.

Ball is fair caught by Demps at the Texans 23.

Arky
08-15-2011, 08:26 PM
2:17 left in the half.

Oggie sweeps left for about 14. 2 minute warning.

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Ball at the Texan 39.

Dump pass to Oggie goes to the Jets 45.

Another to Oggie picks up 5.

Oggie rushes for about 7 and the 1st down. Ball at the Jets 32.

Pass to JJ good for short gain - about 3 yards. 1:18 left in the half.

Dump over the middle to JJ is ruled inc. 3rd and 7 coming up.

Leinart's pass sails inc. Texans to go for the FG.

Rackers 47 yarder is good.

Texans 13, Jets 3

:57 seconds left in the half.

chuck
08-15-2011, 08:29 PM
Better second quarter than first quarter. Not great, but not terrible.

Nconroe
08-15-2011, 08:32 PM
Leoinart and Obanaya doing pretty good. Defense settlinng down.
Jj watts and Reed both looking good.

Arky
08-15-2011, 08:34 PM
Jets bring the kickoff back to their 19.

Pass to Turner good for about 5.

Pass to Cumberland gets about 14 and the 1st down. Ball at the Jets 39.

Pass to McKnight good for 4. 14 seconds left in the half.

Dump pass to the back goes off his hands inc. 9 seconds left.

Adibi ends the half with a sack!

Halftime score:

Texans 13, Jets 3

Big Texas
08-15-2011, 08:35 PM
Adibi with 2 sacks...

Who would have expected?

Arky
08-15-2011, 08:42 PM
Halftime stats:

Passing: Schaub 2/5, 20 yards; Leinart 7/11, 76 yards, 1 TD.

Rushing: Oggie 12/32, Ward 2/5

Receiving: Oggie 4/54, Ward 1/11, Graham 1/10, Walter 1/9, Casey 1/9, JJ 1/3

Tackles: Nading/Jackson/Sharpton 3 each, Allen/Manning/Dobbings/Adibi/Barwin/McCain/Nolan/McManis/Braman 2 each

Time of possession: Texans 13:45, Jets 16:15

Turnovers: Jets 1, Texans 0

Total yards: Jets 119, Texans 122

Penalties: Jets 5/50, Texans 2/10

3rd down efficiency: Jets 1/6, Texans 2/7

Arky
08-15-2011, 08:57 PM
Rackers 2nd half kickoff is brought out to the 15 but flag on the play. Texans offsides on the kick so re-kick.

This time, the kickoff (by Hartmann) goes out of the endzone. Jets ball at their 20.

Pass to Kerley goes for 9. 2nd and 1 coming up.

Jets rush for 3 and the 1st down.

McElroy's pass to the flat sails inc. Brings up 2nd and 10.

Powell rushes for about 2 or 3. Makes it 3rd and 8.

Dump over the middle to Cumberland picks up 10 and the 1st down. Ball at the Jets 45.

Dump off to Powell picks up 11 along the sideline.

Pass to Turner gets about 6. 2nd and 4 coming up.

Pass to Cumberland goes for big gainer. Ball at the Texan 13.

Dump pass in the flat loses 2 or 3. 2nd and 13 coming up.

No gain on the draw. 3rd and 13 coming up.

Jets false start - back 'em up 5. 3rd and 18 coming up.

McElroy run out of bounds after a 4 yard gain. Jets to go for the FG.

Novak's 35 yarder is good.

Texans 13, Jets 6

8:23 left in the 3rd quarter.

Big Texas
08-15-2011, 09:03 PM
I just saw something I was not pleased with...

3rd and 18

Brooks Reed rushed the passer. He got excellent penetration; forced the QB to scramble away from him. After seeing that the QB was running away, Reed proceeded to give up on the play before the QB even got rid of the ball...

Is this conditioning or effort?

Arky
08-15-2011, 09:04 PM
Townsel brings the kickoff back to the Texan 20 or 21 yard line. Flag.....again kicking team offside so re-kick.

This kick is only brought back to the 16 by Townsel. Texans ball.

Leinart's pass is tipped then INT'ed by the Jets. Jets ball at the Texan 20 or so....

Arky
08-15-2011, 09:08 PM
Screen pass to Powell goes all the way to the Texan 1. 1st and goal Jets.

Jets lose 1. Makes it 2nd and goal at the 2.

Jets lose another 1 yard. Makes it 3rd and goal at the 3.

Quick slant pass to the receiver (Turner) is good for the TD.

Texans 13, Jets 13

5:56 left in the 3rd quarter.

Arky
08-15-2011, 09:19 PM
Townsel brings the kickoff back to the Texan 22.

Oggie for 2 off left tackle.

Dump to Oggie only goes for about 2. 3rd and 6 coming up. Texan center (Cody Wallace) slow getting up. Injury timeout. Replaced by Barbieri.

Leinart's 3rd down pass is batted down. Texans have to punt.

Punt is brought back by the Jets to their 43 yard line.

Arky
08-15-2011, 09:22 PM
Oooh, deep pass is dropped by the Jets receiver. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Turner picks up about 4. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Pass to Cumberland is broken up by McCain. Jets to punt.

Demps gets smashed out of bounds at the Texan 18 on the punt return.

Arky
08-15-2011, 09:26 PM
TJ Yates in.

Dump to Vickers gets 22.

Oggie for no gain or -1.

Pass to Townsel gets about 6. 3rd and 4 coming up.

Oggie only gets 1 on the pitch left. Texans have to punt. 56 seconds left in the 3rd quarter.

Maynard's punt goes out of bounds at the Jets 8 or 9 yard line. Jets ball.

Arky
08-15-2011, 09:28 PM
Powell for about 3.

McElroy's pass is batted down by Bulman. 3rd and 7 coming up.

End of the 3rd quarter.

Arky
08-15-2011, 09:31 PM
On 3rd and 7, McElroy's pass is inc. Jets have to punt.

Demps runs backwards and gets tackled. Texans ball at their 32.

Arky
08-15-2011, 09:32 PM
Ouch! Yates deep pass to a wide open Townsel is just off his fingertips. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Yates can't find anyone open and throws it away.

On 3rd and 10, Yates gets sacked. Texans to punt. (the all-important Plexico Buress phone call is on right now).

Jets return the punt to their 45.

13:27 left in the game.

chuck
08-15-2011, 09:35 PM
This team's return game is a disgrace.

WMH
08-15-2011, 09:37 PM
3rd string or not, I believe that is the first COVERAGE sack we have seen in the last 3 years.....

Arky
08-15-2011, 09:39 PM
McElroy is sacked -5. 2nd and 15 coming up.

Pass to Cumberland gets to near midfield. 3rd and 6 coming up.

Dump pass too hot to handle and goes inc. Jets have to punt.

Punt goes into the endzone. Flag down. Holding on the Texans -10. Texans ball at their 10.

Arky
08-15-2011, 09:44 PM
Yates can't find anyone open and runs out of bounds for no gain.

Oggie for maybe 1. 3rd and 9 coming up.

Pass to Maehl gets about 5. Texans to punt.

Some bad tackling lets the Jets return the ball to about their 47.

Arky
08-15-2011, 09:51 PM
Ball at the Jets 48.

Powell rushes for about 6. 2nd and 4 coming up.

Powell for 5. 1st down.

Dump pass to Kerley good for about 3.

Dump over the middle to Cumberland gets about 8 and a 1st down.

Flags presnap. False start Jets -5.

Powell for no gain. Makes it 2nd and 15.

McElroy's pass sail inc out in the flat. Brings up 3rd and 15.

Powell dances for about 9 or 10 yards. Jets to go for the FG.

Folk's 40-yarder is good.

Jets 16, Texans 13

Arky
08-15-2011, 09:57 PM
Texans bring the kickoff back to their 16. Townsel on the return.

Deep pass to Graham over his head inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Lestar Jean good for nice gainer. 1st down at the Texans 42.

Yates is pressured and throws inc.

Ditto, Yates is pressured and throws inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.

Pass to Graham goes inc. Texans to punt.

Punt is fair caught by the Jets at their 18.

4:46 left in the game.

Arky
08-15-2011, 10:01 PM
Jets rush for -1, tackled in the backfield by Dobbins.

QB fumbles the snap, hands off and the Jets lose 1. 3rd and 13 coming up.

'nother sack. Braman and Friday on the sack. Jets to punt.

Townsel brings the punt all the way back to the Jets 38.

3:09 left in the game.

Arky
08-15-2011, 10:02 PM
Dump to Oggie picks up about 11.

Deeo pass to Jean good for the TD! Flag on the Jets - TD stands.

Texans 20, Jets 16

Uh oh, play is under review..... did he cross the goal line before the knee was down?

Booo, play is ruled down at the 1/2 yard line...

Texans ball at the 1 foot line. 1st and goal, 2 minute warning.

Arky
08-15-2011, 10:09 PM
Oggie runs it in. Touchdown.

Texans 20, Jets 16

Nconroe
08-15-2011, 10:10 PM
Jean sure looks loike a good WR and great touchdown. Now a 2 moin defense

Arky
08-15-2011, 10:16 PM
Jets bring the kickoff back to about their 23. 1:46 left.

Pass to Kerley gets about 8.

Braman misses the sack and McElroy scrambles for about 5. 1st down.

Pass is caught for short gain - about 3 yards.

Dump over the middle is good for the 1st down. 1:02 left. Ball at the Texan 46.

Deep pass goes inc.

Dump pass goes inc. Brings up 3rd and 10.

Pass over the middle goes for the 1st down - missed tackles by the Texans.... 43 seconds left in the game.

Whoa, deep pass is dropped by the Jets receiver.. 2nd and 10.

QB is sacked/blocked pass..... 21 seconds left.....3rd and 20.

Pass is completed for the 1st down at the Texan 21.

Spike with 5 seconds left. Jets will have one shot at the endzone.

chuck
08-15-2011, 10:17 PM
I thought Keo was supposed to be good.

Arky
08-15-2011, 10:22 PM
Texans had called a timeout before the play got off.... 5 seconds goes back up on the clock...

McElroy can't find a receiver and runs out of bounds. Clock runs out.

Final score:

Texans 20, Jets 16

Nconroe
08-15-2011, 10:24 PM
Well, nice to beat Rex and jets even in preserasom. Lb braham looked pretty good.

Arky
08-15-2011, 10:31 PM
Well, nice to beat Rex and jets even in preserasom. Lb braham looked pretty good.

Yes, I'd say surprises-of-the-game were:

Braman LB
Friday LB
Adibi LB
Jean WR
Ogbannaya RB

Did I leave anyone out? Yates wasn't too bad considering his 1st NFL game...

HPF Bob
08-15-2011, 10:33 PM
Admit it. You expected the Texans to choke at the end. I know I did. And if that was Santonio Holmes instead of that scrub who had an easy touchdown at the end, the headlines would have read "Same old Texans".

We do seem to have a lot of guys who can rush the passer suddenly and maybe they'll finally get to Peyton Manning but if they leave Dallas Clark as open as the Jets TEs were, it will be the same old story.

Let's see what happens when the starters are left in.

chuck
08-15-2011, 10:34 PM
Let's see what happens when the starters are left in.

I think we already know.

HPF Bob
08-15-2011, 10:40 PM
This team's return game is a disgrace.

They sure looked like graduates of the Steve Slaton School of Kick Returning tonight - which is to say "run sideways then duck". Terrible. Where's J.J. Moses? That little dwarf was fearless.

WMH
08-15-2011, 10:45 PM
Admit it. You expected the Texans to choke at the end. I know I did. And if that was Santonio Holmes instead of that scrub who had an easy touchdown at the end, the headlines would have read "Same old Texans".

We do seem to have a lot of guys who can rush the passer suddenly and maybe they'll finally get to Peyton Manning but if they leave Dallas Clark as open as the Jets TEs were, it will be the same old story.

Let's see what happens when the starters are left in.

True, but if Holmes was in, Joseph would have been in. I'll take that match-up.

1st Preseason game is what it is. A little rusty at times, but decent effort, and some possible diamonds in the rough.

I'm cautiously encouraged by tonights effort.

Arky
08-15-2011, 10:45 PM
Admit it. You expected the Texans to choke at the end. I know I did. And if that was Santonio Holmes instead of that scrub who had an easy touchdown at the end, the headlines would have read "Same old Texans".

We do seem to have a lot of guys who can rush the passer suddenly and maybe they'll finally get to Peyton Manning but if they leave Dallas Clark as open as the Jets TEs were, it will be the same old story.

Let's see what happens when the starters are left in.

Well, we couldn't wrap up for a few more sacks and they couldn't catch. Sounds about even to me.... :p

chuck
08-16-2011, 01:27 AM
They sure looked like graduates of the Steve Slaton School of Kick Returning tonight - which is to say "run sideways then duck". Terrible. Where's J.J. Moses? That little dwarf was fearless.

He's about six years retired from the league. And I bet he could improve on the team's return game today. Of course, so could Mel Gray. What I want to know is what the hell is the deal with Trindon Holiday. Is he hurt? I haven't heard anything to that effect. But he didn't play at all that I saw. And among all the fast pass catchers that they have in camp, why Demps?

As a ten year fan of the Texans I can tell you right now that neither Jean nor Braman will make this team. Chris O is seriously on the bubble. If Tate is able to get out of the tub and hobble around on crutches for fifteen minutes or so, forget it.

nunusguy
08-16-2011, 06:36 AM
JJ Watt and Brooks Reed both were impressive, but 2 other rookies who impressed very much last night were undrafted -
as ESPNs "Jaws' said, rookie OLB Bryan Braman was relentless and another
URFA, WR Jean, was impressive with his excellent hands & size.
**
I hate to say this, but rookie Shiloh Keo should be cut this morning - what a disappointing NFL debut he had, and Mario should immediately be moved back to the DLine. Wouldn't that be a strong combo, both Mario and Watt at DE, and then let the rookie guys who are real standup 3-4 edge rushers like Brooks & Braman play at OLB along with Barwin.
**
Schaub was really off target, but no big deal. Leinert was OK, but rookie TJ
looked to have a little better arm strength and some limited mobility.
**
The Texans across the Board seemed to have as much talent as the Jets,
who I think have dropped off a bit. Overall I was favorably impressed with our
team.

barrett
08-16-2011, 08:00 AM
I came in worried about our OLBs. Now I am impressed with them.

I cannot say the same about our ILBs. Not sure we have the beef there to play a 34 with a 1 gap NT. I am afraid it will be the running game that gouges us this year instead of the passing game.

I am not worried about the offense at all. They can play and nothing that happens in the preseason will affect that at all.

Leinhart looked like a guy who could make an appearance in a game and play fine. But I don't like the idea of him ever starting due to injury. With a week to prepare, defenses will realize he checks everything down and never throws it more than 10 yards in the air.

Watt looked great. Really great. Like homerun draft pick great. Reed is fast and should have value. outside of that I was not real impressed with our defensive draft picks. I did like Yates though. Good mobility and head to run our bootleg offense.

I am really not sure how Braman went undrafted with all the 34 teams and the premium on pass rushers. Great find.

Dickerson had a block on the TD run that was about as nice an inside block as I've seen a WR make. Totally cleaned out the force man on the outside and actually knocked him into the safety who was coming over. That will get him on the field in our offense (if he can catch).

And casey actually looked good as a lead blocker. No missed assignments and didn't get blown up. Competent lead blocking. In a weird turn of events Vickers actually looked better with the ball in his hands though.

popanot
08-16-2011, 09:05 AM
This team's return game is a disgrace.Aside from Rackers, this team's whole 'Special' Teams is a disaster. I realize it was only a preseason game and can only HOPE they get better, but they've been this way for about 4yrs running now. The return game is awful and the coverage game is awful. I don't think I've think I've ever seen a team where the ST makes so many negative plays. I'm amazed that Marciano has been employed by the team this long.

chuck
08-16-2011, 09:38 AM
Dickerson had a block on the TD run that was about as nice an inside block as I've seen a WR make. Totally cleaned out the force man on the outside and actually knocked him into the safety who was coming over. That will get him on the field in our offense (if he can catch).

I meant to comment on this at the time but got distracted. You're absolutely right, it was a monster block, very impressive. I loved seeing that.

NBT
08-16-2011, 02:24 PM
I will tell Chuck right now, that WR Lestar Jean makes the team. It may only be the taxi team for the time being, but that young man is going to be heard from. And in a similar way, so is Oregon Duck Jeff Maehl.

I was right, we did win the game.

JW295
08-17-2011, 12:30 PM
Check out NFL scout Jayson Braddock’s opinion (http://thexlog.com/201108170741/xtra-point-football/nfl/new-york-jets-vs-houston-texans-nfl-preseason-week-1-cliff-notes/) on Matt Leinart, TJ Yates and Chris Ogbonnaya in their first preseason game against the Jets.