View Full Version : Official Texans @ Colts Game Thread, 11/1/2010
The Texans travel to Indianapolis this weekend to do battle with the Colts on a Monday nighter. Big AFC South matchup with the winner to get excellent position for the stretch run. Both teams have lost players to injury for the season so both teams will be using backup players in key positions. This will be the Texans first opportunity in their 8.5 year existence to sweep the Colts. It is also Coach Gary Kubiak's 3rd opportunity this year to take his career record (35-35) to over .500 for the first time. Is the 3rd time the charm?
TV: ESPN, Monday 7:30 CST
Announcers: Gruden/Tirico/Jaworski
Opening line: Colts by 6
Current line (http://www.madduxsports.com/nfl-odds.php) = Colts by 5.5 to 7
Walterfootball.com (http://walterfootball.com/nflpicks2010_08late.php) projects the Texans to cover the spread.
cland
10-27-2010, 02:06 AM
I think this game will be all about the turnovers, if we can go +1 or +2, we'll have a pretty good shot. The offense has to start hot. If we can get a 7-10 point lead through the air, the Texans will go right back to the Foster/Ward running game to wear the Colts defense down and burn time off the clock.
I expect the defense to again force/allow the short pass. I hope our defense can get week 1 pressure again, but if nothing else we need to tip a few three-step-drop balls in the air and hope our Linebackers or Safeties can snag it.
The colts are a team designed to play with a lead. There won't be any Redskins/Chiefs late game comebacks against them.
cadams
10-27-2010, 09:10 AM
I think this game will be all about the turnovers, if we can go +1 or +2, we'll have a pretty good shot. The offense has to start hot. If we can get a 7-10 point lead through the air, the Texans will go right back to the Foster/Ward running game to wear the Colts defense down and burn time off the clock.
I expect the defense to again force/allow the short pass. I hope our defense can get week 1 pressure again, but if nothing else we need to tip a few three-step-drop balls in the air and hope our Linebackers or Safeties can snag it.
The colts are a team designed to play with a lead. There won't be any Redskins/Chiefs late game comebacks against them.
after the way we ran all over them last game you want them to start the game through the air? i was actually joking with someone the other day that kubiak would probably start the game passing to "trick" them instead of seeing if they could run on the from start to finish this time.
HPF Bob
10-27-2010, 09:38 AM
Whether they do it running, passing or by turnover, taking the lead and then chewing up the clock is critical. Keep Manning off the field as much as possible.
I'm hoping the Texans have designed some new wrinkles on defense to grab an early advantage. Schaub will have to be on his game and avoid the stupid INT that so often plagues his performances.
We should not be afraid to go to AJ and JJ with some OD that they didn't see in Week 1 but, at some point, we have to pound them with Foster and Ward just to see if they are capable of stopping it. If they aren't they may cheat up, in which case, they should be vulnerable to deep routes.
Someone on another board mentioned the "Super Bowl loser hex", which afflicts teams the year after reaching the Big One. Seems like the Saints got hit with this worse than the Colts.
Brown's first game back from the suspension, he is going to be a little rusty, and against Freeny this is not the game to be rusty. Chip on him a little with the TE or RB. I hope we can continue to run on them like we did in game one. That would make the pass blocking a lot easier for the OT's.
nunusguy
10-30-2010, 03:11 PM
I definitely don't expect us to win this game, but no matter because I'm satisfied to finally split with Manning. Maybe we can notch our 5th win a week from tomorrow in Reliant vs the Chargers, but that sure won't be easy either.
Monday will give us an opportunity to see what our modified defense looks like, specifically with the absense of DeMeco and Cushing replacing him in the middle and maybe we'll see more of our rookie DTs including just activated Malcolm Sheppard ? We should get a feel if this defense can play well enough to keep us competitive in most of the rest of this seasons games ?
I expect a win. If I didn't why even watch the game? What bothers to me is the Jeckyl & Hyde nature of Kubiak's team. One year the defense is hot, this year they are near the bottom. I don't blame Bush as much as I do Kubiak. He needs to let Bush have some breathing room to do some creative things with the defense which they certainly haven't been doing. After all, they can't get any worse.
painekiller
10-31-2010, 03:23 PM
I expect a win. If I didn't why even watch the game? What bothers to me is the Jeckyl & Hyde nature of Kubiak's team. One year the defense is hot, this year they are near the bottom. I don't blame Bush as much as I do Kubiak. He needs to let Bush have some breathing room to do some creative things with the defense which they certainly haven't been doing. After all, they can't get any worse.
I would say the decision to be yet again one of the youngest defenses in the NFL has as much to do with this as any other item we can point to.
When they decided to let Dunta go (which I agreed with) and then not sign Bodden (another move I agree with), then they cut both Reeves who was serviceable and Fred Bennett who time to leave had come, they were left with a very young inexperienced secondary.
With no pass rush the young guys are exposed. As i have said in the past they young guys should improve. The guys in the middle need a new plan to get to the QB.
As much as I hate to say it, if Bush and company can not turn the defense around, they need to be replaced. And a nice young aggressive defensive mind needs to be brought in. Someone like Dom Capers.:D
nunusguy
11-01-2010, 07:35 AM
I would say the decision to be yet again one of the youngest defenses in the NFL has as much to do with this as any other item we can point to.
When they decided to let Dunta go (which I agreed with) and then not sign Bodden (another move I agree with), then they cut both Reeves who was serviceable and Fred Bennett who time to leave had come, they were left with a very young inexperienced secondary.
With no pass rush the young guys are exposed. As i have said in the past they young guys should improve. The guys in the middle need a new plan to get to the QB.
As much as I hate to say it, if Bush and company can not turn the defense around, they need to be replaced. And a nice young aggressive defensive mind needs to be brought in. Someone like Dom Capers.:D
I don't think it was necessarily unrealistic of the Texans' coaching staff to expect they could get enough pressure off of the edge from Mario and Barwin along with A.Smith on the inside in nickel situations to provide enough cover to offset the youth and inexperience of their corners they decided to go with in 2010, but alas injuries happen. It's just that they cut it too close and really had nom plan B when Connor went down. next year one way or the other we get ATLEAST one more pass-rushing prospect.
About your Capers reference ? Dunno if you're totally jesting or are you also promoting the idea of a 3-4 conversion ?
painekiller
11-01-2010, 12:35 PM
I don't think it was necessarily unrealistic of the Texans' coaching staff to expect they could get enough pressure off of the edge from Mario and Barwin along with A.Smith on the inside in nickel situations to provide enough cover to offset the youth and inexperience of their corners they decided to go with in 2010, but alas injuries happen. It's just that they cut it too close and really had nom plan B when Connor went down. next year one way or the other we get ATLEAST one more pass-rushing prospect.
About your Capers reference ? Dunno if you're totally jesting or are you also promoting the idea of a 3-4 conversion ?
First off I agree they had a more than realistic chance of a pass rsuh prior to Barwin's injury. And that the failure may have been the lack of a plan B when he did become hurt.
I was joking about Capers, but IMO if this coaching staff does not have this team in the playoffs, and they fall to .500 or below by years end then the HC and his defense is gone. McNair can keep Dennison to run the offense and look for a new HC. At the top of the list for new HCing jobs has to be the recycled guys, Cowher, Grudden, Brian Billick, and Dungy (not likely). When you look at the Cowher and Billick, they have a 3-4 background.
There are 4-3 guys out there, but few with a name big enough to satisfy our fanbase and the owner.
I can very likely see our team going to a 3-4, and the guy I would pick to run it would be Wade Phillips if he becomes available, not as a HC but as a DC. He runs an aggressive 3-4 similar to the Steelers, not the more passive style that was run here in the early years.
We are one big NT away from a decent 3-4 lineup.
Now another route would be to look at the coordinators in the league, but that is another thread all by itself, and we are 4-2 right now.
But my current top coordinators to watch, Chuck Cecil of the Titans (4-3), he is getting production from Babin, so he must be watched.
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 03:48 PM
Chuck Cecil of the Titans
Flipper? Not sure how McNair feels about coaches flipping off officials but I suspect he frowns upon it.
First off I agree they had a more than realistic chance of a pass rsuh prior to Barwin's injury. And that the failure may have been the lack of a plan B when he did become hurt.
I was joking about Capers, but IMO if this coaching staff does not have this team in the playoffs, and they fall to .500 or below by years end then the HC and his defense is gone. McNair can keep Dennison to run the offense and look for a new HC. At the top of the list for new HCing jobs has to be the recycled guys, Cowher, Grudden, Brian Billick, and Dungy (not likely). When you look at the Cowher and Billick, they have a 3-4 background.
There are 4-3 guys out there, but few with a name big enough to satisfy our fanbase and the owner.
I can very likely see our team going to a 3-4, and the guy I would pick to run it would be Wade Phillips if he becomes available, not as a HC but as a DC. He runs an aggressive 3-4 similar to the Steelers, not the more passive style that was run here in the early years.
We are one big NT away from a decent 3-4 lineup.
Now another route would be to look at the coordinators in the league, but that is another thread all by itself, and we are 4-2 right now.
But my current top coordinators to watch, Chuck Cecil of the Titans (4-3), he is getting production from Babin, so he must be watched.
WOW....can we get thru, oh, I dunno, GAME 7 of a 4-2 start BEFORE we start replacing the staff?
Geez, come on guy. We are 4-2, doesn't matter how we got here, we are here.
I am expecting a great game tonight. Can't really say who will win, but I am betting we can match a banged up Indy team better than most think. I HATE that Dallas Clark guy, and am certainly glad he won't be torching our LB's this week.
LESH GEAUX BOYS - 2 hours till KICK OFF!!!!!!
chuck
11-01-2010, 07:10 PM
We're going to find a way to win this freaking game tonight.
Gametime!
Texans win the toss and elect to receive.
JJ brings the kickoff back to the Texan 33.
TheMatrix31
11-01-2010, 07:41 PM
Let's get it done baby!
Quick hitter to AJ gets about 11. 1st down.
Pass goes inc. - nearly INT'ed. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Pass to AJ is caught out of bounds. Brings up 3rd and 10.
Timeout Texans.
TheMatrix31
11-01-2010, 07:44 PM
Timeout already? Argh.
Nconroe
11-01-2010, 07:44 PM
Schaub needs to be careful, almost an interception there after the first down pass. Schaub looks nervous. No running plays yet. Man Freeny ate Duane Brown up on that sack.
TheMatrix31
11-01-2010, 07:46 PM
Well that's a good drive to start.
On 3rd and 10, Schaub is sacked. Texan have to punt.
Colts return the punt to their own 41.
Manning's 1st down pass goes inc.
2nd down pass is dropped. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Nconroe
11-01-2010, 07:48 PM
Let's go defense. nice to see no Dallas Clark out there
Manning's 3rd down pass sails inc. Colts have to punt.
JJ brings the punt back to the Texan 31.
On first down, Foster powers for about 5. 2nd and 5 coming up.
Foster sweeps left for about 9. 1st down.
Foster off right tackle for about 4. 2nd and 6 coming up.
Schaub nearly sacked dumps inc. to Ward. 3rd and 6 coming up.
Schaub's 3rd down pass is slightly behind JJ inc. Texans have to punt.
Colts fair catch the punt at their own 22.
TheMatrix31
11-01-2010, 07:57 PM
Jacoby Dropsies.
On 1st down, big run by Hart. About 35 yards.
Hart for no gain. Ball at the Texans 44.
Pass complete to Wayne gets 10 and the 1st down. Holding on McCain is declined.
chuck
11-01-2010, 07:58 PM
Matt Turk CAN punt the ball more than 40 yards in the air, I know, I've seen him do it.
On 1st down, Manning's pass to Tamme goes all the way to the Texan 7. 1st and goal.
Diles catches Hart in the backfield - no facemask..
Dump to Hart goes to the 2. 3rd and goal from the 2.
TheMatrix31
11-01-2010, 08:01 PM
That was blatant.
Dump to Tamme in the endzone is good for the TD.
Colts 7, Texans 0
chuck
11-01-2010, 08:07 PM
There is so much wrong with this defense it is hard to know where to start.
One minute I think CBs. Then I realize that the safeties are worse than the CBs if that's possible. Then I realize that the DL cannot rush the passer, any passer. Mario, our best guy, cannot beat a LT one on one.
We have a lot of problems.
Right now our biggest problem is that the offense isn't doing shit.
JJ brings the kickoff back to about the Texans 32. 6:59 left in the 1st quarter.
Foster over left guard for about 8. 2nd and 2 coming up.
Foster over right guard for 4. 1st down.
Foster right side for 2. 2nd and 8 coming up.
Dump to Ward gets about 6 or 7. 3rd and short coming up.
Pass to KW is off the mark. Texans to go for it on 4th down.
Timeout Texans...
I'd run it every down....
On 4th and 2, pass to KW is inc. Colts ball at their own 48.
1 yd. gain on 1st down on the run. 2nd and 9 coming up.
Brown for a couple. Brings up 3rd and 6.
Manning scrambles but comes up short on the slide..... bad spot despite the ruling on the field.... Colts to challenge..
Nconroe
11-01-2010, 08:17 PM
There is so much wrong with this defense it is hard to know where to start.
One minute I think CBs. Then I realize that the safeties are worse than the CBs if that's possible. Then I realize that the DL cannot rush the passer, any passer. Mario, our best guy, cannot beat a LT one on one.
We have a lot of problems.
Right now our biggest problem is that the offense isn't doing shit.
Yep, Schaub is looking terrrrrrible.
Now we know why Pollard was cut by K.C. He can't cover his own shadow.
As usual Kubiak's team comes out looking unprepared(?) Is that the right word I'm looking for?
The defense is so pathetic it is hard to look at it.
Spot of the ball is overruled after review. 1st down Colts.
Colts TFL -1. 2nd and 11 coming up.
Dump to Brown gets a couple. 3rd and 8 coming up.
Manning is sacked by Anderson back at the 50! Colts have to punt.
End of 1st quarter.
TheMatrix31
11-01-2010, 08:21 PM
Huge sack. Let's go Jacoby...return this bitch.
chuck
11-01-2010, 08:23 PM
The defense is bad, we knew that, we need to work around that. I'm actually hopeful with some of the new guys we have in here.
But the offense needs to score every possession. Not against the Colts, against every freaking body. Schaub needs to throw ball people can catch, receivers need to catch them, the line needs to pull its head out of its ass.
Colts punt goes into the endzone. Texans ball at their 20.
Schaub's 1st down pass is INT'ed by Hayden. Pick 6.
Colts 14, Texans 0
Damn, I wish they'd run the ball.
Nconroe
11-01-2010, 08:25 PM
So much for showing the nation how good we are,
TheMatrix31
11-01-2010, 08:28 PM
Run the FN ball
chuck
11-01-2010, 08:29 PM
The Colts can't stop the run. If the Texans run the ball it pretty much keeps Manning off the field. Instead, the Texans decide to throw the ball all over the field, at first with no success and now just giving the Colts points.
How much money does Kubiak make every year? Wouldn't you like to make that much money to suck ass at your job?
JJ brings the kickoff back to the Texans 34.
Foster goes left side for big gainer. 33 yards.
Foster for no gain. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Pass to JJ good for about 5. 3rd and 5 coming up.
Schaub is smoked before he can pass. Big loss on the sack. Texans to go for the long FG.
Colts call timeout cause they were thinking punt....
12:05 left in the half.
Ball hits the upright and bounces in good.
Colts 14, Texans 3
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 08:35 PM
Run the FN ball
Exactly. Good things happen when we run. Bad things happen when we pass. I don't understand why we keep trying to pass.
Big Texas
11-01-2010, 08:36 PM
Kubiak can be so backward sometimes...
He runs when the run is not working...
Now he's trying to force passes, when the run is working...
Colts bring the kickoff back to their 25.
Hart get about 6 on 1st down. 2nd and 4 coming up.
Pre-snap flag - offsides Colts. Brings up 2nd and 9.
Pass to Tamme gets 10 and the 1st down.
Big Texas
11-01-2010, 08:37 PM
They haven't proven they can stop the run...
Run it down the freaking throat...
TheMatrix31
11-01-2010, 08:37 PM
Exactly. Good things happen when we run. Bad things happen when we pass. I don't understand why we keep trying to pass.
Ain't that funny?
Big Texas
11-01-2010, 08:38 PM
Somebody tell me why no matter who the TE is we can't stop them...
Hart rushes for about 13 but holding on Colts. -10 yards, repeat 1st down.
On 1st and 20, another flag pre-snap. Defense offsides. Makes it 1st and 15.
Hart runs for about 14. 2nd and 1 coming up.
Hart gets 3 and the 1st down. Ball near midfield.
Manning's pass goes inc - broken up by Wilson. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Brown for no gain. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Wilson again on the breakup. Colts have to punt.
JJ brings the punt back to the Texan 16.
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 08:45 PM
Edgar Renteria three-run homer in the seventh. SF now leads, 3-0.
Dump to AJ is dropped inc. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Foster for no gain. Brings up 3rd and 10.
Dump to AJ just might be enough for a 1st down. Sessions is down on the play.
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 08:48 PM
I think we're a yard short and need to punt.
TheMatrix31
11-01-2010, 08:48 PM
Our defense will not keep us in this game.
No 1st down. Turk on to punt.
Colts bring the punt back to their 34.
Pass to Garcon good for 7. 2nd and 3 coming up.
2nd down pass goes inc. 3rd and 3 coming up.
Hart catches the pass and stretches for the 1st down.
Brown TFL by Mario -1. 2nd and 11 coming up.
Saturday - illegal snap -5 on Colts. 2nd and 16 coming up.
Good coverage by Texans.... pass goes inc. Brings up 3rd and 16.
Offsides Mario makes it 3rd and 11.
Dump to Brown comes up about a yard short of the 1st down. Colts to go for it.
Brown gets 2 and the 1st down. Ball at the Texan 44.
Dump to Gonzales gets 4. 2nd and 6 coming up.
Hart rushes for about 10. 1st down. Ball at the Texan 30. 1:52 left in the half.
2 minute warning.
Big Texas
11-01-2010, 08:57 PM
So which part of our team was supposed to keep us in this game?
Pass to Garcon gets about 9. 2nd and 1 coming up.
Hart rushes for about 5 but flag on the play. Holding on Colts, repeat 2nd down. 2nd and 11.
Slant is broken up by KJ. 3rd and 11 coming up.
Offsides Texans. 3rd and 6 coming up.
Slant to Wayne goes to the 11 but flag on the play. Interference on Gonzales. Makes it 3rd and 16.
Pass to Gonzales good for 6. Texans with the timeout with 56 seconds left in the half. Colts to probably go for the FG.
Vinateri's 48 yarder is good.
Colts 17, Texans 3
Big Texas
11-01-2010, 09:07 PM
What the hell is wrong with Shaub?
JJ returns the kickoff back to the Texans 29. 46 seconds left.
1st down pass is inc.
Pass to AJ good for 6. 3rd and 4 coming up.
3rd down pass goes inc. 4th and 4 coming up. Texans to punt. 21 seconds left.
Colts fair catch the punt at their own 18.
Colts kneel it.
Halftime.
Joshua
11-01-2010, 09:11 PM
What the hell is wrong with Shaub?
I like Schaub and think he is an above average QB, but to me, his body language has always come across as though he doesn't like tackle football too much. In my opinion, he clearly doesn't like the contact and it effects his play. Wasn't it Haynesworth who basically called him a p*ssy a couple years ago? I'm afraid that may be the case. Doesn't mean you can't win with him. Just means that teams that can get to him can change the way he plays.
Halftime stats:
Passing: Schaub 5/15, 37 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT
Rushing: Foster 8/65
Receiving: AJ 3/26, Ward 1/6, JJ 1/5
Tackles: Diles 7, Cushing 4, Pollard/McCain/Quin/Jackson 3 each, Smith/Anderson/Okoye/Cody 2 each
Time of possession: Colts 18:48, Texans 11:12
3rd down conversions: Texans 0/6, Colts 3/8
Turnovers: Texans 1, Colts 0
Red zone: Texans 0/0, Colts 1/1
nunusguy
11-01-2010, 09:14 PM
What the hells wrong with Boomers voice ?
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 09:17 PM
All things considered, the defense hasn't been that terrible. They've held Manning to 10 pts. I wish they tackled better though.
The offense has stunk. What they should be doing is pounding them with Foster and Ward and then try to bust them with play action on a first or second down. We're going to have to keep their speed rushers occupied if we're going to have any deep throws and we can do that if we make them respect the run and then run play action on a running down. Don't wait for third down. They'll know its coming.
chuck
11-01-2010, 09:17 PM
This is disgusting.
If the Texans win this game they go to the playoffs. Period. Instead of coming in and playing inspired, intelligent football they take a giant shit on the field.
RUN THE BALL.
I cannot believe how undeserving Kubiak is of having a head coaching job in the NFL if this is what he produces against a terrible Colts defense.
I'm ignoring the fact that they have managed to worsen their defense from average to the worst I have ever seen due to poor personnel decisions, injuries and general idiocy. Even that defense has held the Colts to a reasonable first half point total.
The good news is we won't have to suffer through this sort of totally ineffectual performance next year because the billionaires are not making enough money and the guys who make $300k a year and suffer several concussions are making too damn much money.
Colts bring the 2nd half kickoff back to their 30.
Manning's pass sails inc. Brings up 2nd and 10.
Reggie Wayne drops one. Brings up 3rd and 10.
Pass to Garcon goes to the Colts 48. 1st down.
Dump to Hart gets 10. 1st down.
Hart for 1. Brings up 2nd and 9.
Oh my. Texans had 'em stopped but Garcon reverses field for big gainer. Ball at the Texans 27.
Pass to Tamme good for 11.
1st down pass goes inc. Ball at the Texan 15.
2nd down pass goes inc. Brings up 3rd and 10.
Screen to Wayne gets the TD.
Colts 24, Texans 3
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 09:31 PM
Final score: Giants 3, Rangers 1.
Congrats, Giants fan. Last franchise worlds championship: 1954, before I was born.
nunusguy
11-01-2010, 09:32 PM
How sad is that ? Texans just standing around with their thumbs up the azzs
on that last TD.
This was our bye week to, and this is this the best prep & the best effort they could muster ? I really expected them to be competitive. Very disappointing.
chuck
11-01-2010, 09:33 PM
Kareem Jackson was a wasted pick. It would have been better not to have taken a pick at that spot and kept the money. He can't cover and he can't tackle. I have no idea why Smith was swayed by the Nick Saban bullshit but he was.
This defense is going to get worse as the year goes on. There is no upside.
On a positive note, it only took Kubiak 40% of the season to realize what all of us already knew which is that Slaton (Slayton for all you morans) sucks ass on kickoff returns.
11:30 left in the 3rd quarter.
JJ brings the kickoff back to the Texan 41.
Foster for about 4. Brings up 2nd and 6.
Foster for about 5 1/2. Brings up 3rd and a short 1.
Schaub sneaks for it. Looks good. 1st down.
Dump to Foster gets about 15. 1st down.
Ward sweeps right for about 5. 2nd and 5 coming up.
Foster gets about 3. 3rd and 3 coming up.
Pass to AJ for the TD!
Colts 24, Texans 10
And my satellite is out. Gonna do radio.....
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 09:36 PM
Now this is how the offense was supposed to look.
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 09:38 PM
I didn't think he was in the first time, but replay confirms, touchdown Texans. We can get back in this but we need some stops.
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 09:42 PM
KO return to the Indy 30, time out.
Manning complete to TE for 9.
Run with Hart for four. 1st down.
False start - 71, push em back 5.
Long pass to Gonzalez complete to the Hous 30, rolls forward to the 27 1st down.
Deep throw to Wayne, incomplete.
2nd and 10...Slant to Garcon for 9.
3rd and 1 on the 18. Bounced incomplete but a FLAG
Def. holding on two players. 1st down at the Hou 13.
Pass to Garcon incomplete. Receiver wants a flag and gets none.
2nd and 10...Handoff up the middle for 7.
3rd and 3...Complete to Garcon at the sticks...1st and GOAL on the 2.
Fade route to Wayne, well defended by KJ
2nd and goal...handoff for very little.
3rd and goal...Manning long count then calls time out.
Colts bring the kickoff back to their 30.
7:34 left in the 3rd quarter.
Pass to Tamme good for about 9.
Brown rushes for the 1st down.
Big pass to Gonzales. Ball is at the Texans 27.
1st down pass goes inc.
popanot
11-01-2010, 09:43 PM
Wow, running Foster sets up the TD to Andre. Only took Rubiak going down by 21 to figure out what worked in Week 1 would, duh..., work again.
popanot
11-01-2010, 09:44 PM
Amazing... This defense is soooo fcking horrible.
On 2nd and 10, pass to Garcon good for 9. Brings up 3rd and 1.
Manning's pass is almost INT'ed but PI on KJ. Holding also on GQ. 1st down at the Texan 13.
Pass is inc. to Garcon.
Rush for 5. Brings up 3rd and 5 at the Texan 8.
Pass to Garcon gets about 5 and the 1st down. 1st and goal at the 2.
1st down pass is inc.
Not much by Brown on the run. 3rd and goal at the 1.
Timeout Colts.
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 09:51 PM
I'll let you have it now, Arky.
You take it, Bob. Storm has my satellite out.... :rolleyes:
Edit: go ahead and take it... :)
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 09:55 PM
Hart stopped inches short.
Vintieri with the chip-shot...GOOD
IND 27
HOU 10
w/2:xx to go in the 3rd quarter.
OK, Bob, got it back! I got it.
TheMatrix31
11-01-2010, 09:57 PM
The score is that magical 27-10.
JJ brings the kickoff back to the Texan 24. Holding on Texans puts the ball at the Texan 14.
Foster for about 10 and damn, here comes the rain again...
You take it, Bob....sorry....:p
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 10:00 PM
JJ returns the KO to the Hou 14. 1st down.
Screen to foster to the sticks. first down.
Pass to Leach gets six. 2nd and 4 from the 30.
Foster stopped but a 15-yd face mask on Indy.
Texans choose to extend quarter with an untimed down.
1st and 10 on the 47....play action and Schaub throws it away. Now the 3rd qtr is over. Changing ends.
(p.s. - I'm at a sports bar typing on a laptop so I apologize in advance for any typing errors)
Time to step it up, Texans..... 12:26 left, please move a little quicker....
Yay! TD, Texans! ;)
Satellite is back, Bob. I can try one more time. If it happens again, you should finish the game...
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 10:07 PM
2nd and 10 from their 47. Schaub complete to AJ at the Indy 39.
1st and 10...Schaub on a slant to Walter incomplete but here's a FLAG. Pass Interference gives Hou 1st down.
1st and 10 on 36. Schaub complete to AJ on the 19.
1st and 10...Schaub complete short to JJ, fumbled but picked up by Foster for three.
2nd and 7..Foster rumbles for 10... 1st and GOAL at the 6,
Schaub bootlegs...inc to Walter.
2nd and goal....Foster cuts and dives in the end zone!
Touchdown Texans!
XP by Rackers....perfect.
IND 27
HOU 17 w/12:22 left in the game.
Colts bring the kickoff back to their 23. 12:22 left in the game.
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 10:11 PM
KO returned to the Indy 22...1st and 10.
Wow...key game in the Big 12 this week: Baylor at Okie St.
Slant to Wayne good for 9. 2nd and 1 coming up.
Hart for 4. 1st down.
Dump to Gonzales good to the Colts 43. Kubes to challenge it was a catch.... Looks like he'll win....
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 10:12 PM
We need a turnover or we're done.
We need a turnover or we're done.
Thanks for filling in. Cool front just blew through.. A lot calmer outside, now..
Kubes win the challenge. Pass is inc. 11:08 left in the game. 2nd and 10 coming up.
Pass to Garcon complete in Texan territory. 1st down.
Hart rushes for 14. 1st down.
Pass to Gonzales gets 11. 1st down. Ball at the Texans 25.
Hart not much on 1st down run. 2nd and 10 coming up.
James for about 7. Brings up 3rd and 3.
Pass goes inc. Colts to go for the FG.
popanot
11-01-2010, 10:19 PM
For crying out loud, defense, make a freaking play!!!
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 10:20 PM
I guess their linemen are allowed to jump before the snap.
This strategy of trading sevens for threes would have worked if we'd started earlier. It's not much use now.
Vinateri's 36 yarder is good.
Colts 30, Texans 17
JJ brings the kickoff back to the Texans 29. 7:18 left in the game.
Hooo, 1st down passed tipped inc...
Dump to Foster gets about 3. 3rd and 8 coming up.
Dump to Foster loses 1. Texans have to punt.
Colts bring the punt back to their 27.
popanot
11-01-2010, 10:26 PM
I hate how Kubiak has this team playing the wimpiest football I've seen in a long time.
5:39 left in the game.
James for about 3. 2nd and 7 coming up.
Dump to Wayne gets 4. 3rd and 3 coming up. 5 minutes left in the game.
Dump to Tamme gets about 5 and the 1st down.
TFL by Okoye on James -6. 2nd and 16 coming up.
2nd down pass is inc. Brings up 3rd and 16.
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 10:31 PM
Hey, we got a split this year and we're just a game out with half the season to go. I'm not ready to throw in the towel yet, particularly since the Texans are the only team I have left that can accomplish anything this year other than embarrassing themselves.
On 3rd and 16, pass goes inc. Colts have to punt. 4:04 left in the game.
Texans mess up the punt and the ball ends up at their 4.
Pass to Foster good for 5. 2nd and 5 coming up.
Pass to Foster gets about 10. 1st down.
Pass to Foster gets 11.
Pass to Daniels goes for 9. 2nd and 2 coming up.
Dump to Foster gets the 1st down.
2 minute warning.
HPF Bob
11-01-2010, 10:36 PM
Our only hope now is a touchdown, recover the onsides and another touchdown.
popanot
11-01-2010, 10:36 PM
What the hell was that??!!! They just let 20 seconds run off the clock!!!
Hey, we got a split this year and we're just a game out with half the season to go. I'm not ready to throw in the towel yet, particularly since the Texans are the only team I have left that can accomplish anything this year other than embarrassing themselves.
AMEN Bob! I mean, what the hell else are we gonna do? ;)
Pass to Ward goes to the Texans 48.
Pass to AJ good to the Colts 30.
Dump to Foster good to the Colts 23.
Pass goes behind JJ inc. 1:24 left.
Foster to the 14 yd. line. 1st down.
Spike. 1:10 left.
Pass to OD goes inc. 3rd and 10 coming up.
Schaub stripped, Colts recover.
popanot
11-01-2010, 10:41 PM
AMEN Bob! I mean, what the hell else are we gonna do? ;)I'm not giving up, but when this team continuously gets slapped in the face on big games, their HC seems to have his head up his you-know-what in regard to game planning and the D is horrible and can't stop anything, I don't think it bodes well when you're trying to win a division or beat a playoff team.
Freeny sack and Schaub fumble. LOL, so predictable.
49 seconds left.
Colts kneeling it out.
Final score:
Colts 30, Texans 17
Makes the Charger game definitely must-win. The biggest game in team history. 5th or 6th biggest game this year.... :p Beat the Chargers, get right back on track....
OK, you don't give up, but this team totally sucks. One week they play like winners, then they revert to form. I am getting fed up with Rubiak's cube! I am totally in agreement with Chuck on this team. They suck!!!
chuck
11-01-2010, 10:46 PM
6-10, like I have always said. The Texans will finish last in the South, as always. Because they have inferior management, inferior ownership, inferior coaching and no accountability. And the worst defense in the history of the NFL.
Fonz the Boss
11-01-2010, 11:03 PM
Well we got the split that we needed so credit to the Texans for at least doing that. I still think we win this division if we beat the Jags twice and split with the Titans. The Titans lost yesterday so this division is up for the taking. Titans will at least split with the Colts and that will open the doors for us to be the new AFC South champions.
chuck
11-01-2010, 11:08 PM
Well we got the split that we needed so credit to the Texans for at least doing that. I still think we win this division if we beat the Jags twice and split with the Titans. The Titans lost yesterday so this division is up for the taking. Titans will at least split with the Colts and that will open the doors for us to be the new AFC South champions.
How do you see the Texans beating the Jags at all much less twice? And how do you see them beating the Titans in this decade?
The Titans are the best team in the division. The Texans just lost convincingly to what I believe is the third best team in the division.
popanot
11-01-2010, 11:09 PM
Every team, including the Texans, have torched the Colts D running the ball. Yet, our brilliant coaching staff, who has had a week to prepare and review tape, comes out guns blazing trying to air it out. It's hard enough for this team to overcome the horribly inept defense and Schaub's weekly bonehead play of the game, but it's nearly impossible to overcome Kubiak and staff's numbskullery.
I mean look at it... Foster was probably averaging 5+ yards a carry in that 1rst quarter, and they were only down by 10 most of the 1rst half, but for some odd reason Kubiak decides to throw the ball the majority of the time. And of course, Schaub throws a pick 6 on a stupid 5yd. hook on 1rst and 10. Amazing...
Almost every time they showed Kubiak tonight he was huffing and puffing and cussing up a storm. Problem is, he should have been cussing at himself and his staff and needs only to look in the mirror to see why they lost and play like wimps when the going gets tough.
chuck
11-01-2010, 11:35 PM
This was a game the team should have won. If they are ever to beat the Colts on the road in my lifetime this would have been the day. Instead of running Foster down their throats the Texans tried to Casserly the Colts by outsmarting them. When you have Gary Kubiak in charge, you are not going to outsmart anyone.
They ran Foster 15 times. As most of you know I would have fired that idiot a long time ago. I most certainly would have fired him after that incredible halfback pass last year. I just don't know how you could get any dumber than that except if you gave Foster the ball 15 times total against a terrible run defense.
I have no idea how Kubiak has the balls to cash his paycheck.
Intruder
11-01-2010, 11:36 PM
I've been a Kubiak apologist for a long time
Those days are over
He abandoned the run before the game even started. Any time Foster didn't pick up 5 or more yards on a run, it was pass pass punt from that point on. I'm ready to move on from the Kubiak era
Fonz the Boss
11-01-2010, 11:39 PM
How do you see the Texans beating the Jags at all much less twice? And how do you see them beating the Titans in this decade?
The Titans are the best team in the division. The Texans just lost convincingly to what I believe is the third best team in the division.
Uhhh... Because the Jags are not that good. They beat a team whose spirits were shattered without their QB. And well we always split with the Titans and this year should be no different. But thats talk for another week. For right now we have to concentrate on beating the Chargers.
chuck
11-01-2010, 11:54 PM
For right now we have to concentrate on beating the Chargers.
True. They'll lose to the Chargers, they'll lose twice to the Titans and they will be very lucky to beat the Jags at all.
TheMatrix31
11-02-2010, 02:20 AM
True. They'll lose to the Chargers, they'll lose twice to the Titans and they will be very lucky to beat the Jags at all.
Glad to know you know the results. So what will you be doing with your Sundays from here on out?
popanot
11-02-2010, 06:13 AM
This team has been outscored 197-170, has the worst D in the league, had to play from behind in almost all of their games, barely managed to outscore the opposition in at least 2 (if not 3) of their 4 wins, has been absolutely spanked in all of their 3 losses, and just got manhandled on national TV (after a bye!!) by a team playing mostly 3rd and 4th stringers in key positions.
Yes, 4-2 sure beats 2-4, but I don't know how anybody watching can feel good with how this team is playing. The D is a sieve and the O seems lost and is getting whipped by physical teams. Throw in Kubiak's total lack of preparation and game planning and you've got a recipe for disaster. Sorry, but it's terribly difficult to be optimistic right now.
nunusguy
11-02-2010, 08:09 AM
FWIW according to the stats Diles had 10 solos while Cushing had a total of 2 last night, so that's where we are on the Brian Cushing at MLB experiement
after the first game. I can't get over how ordinary Cushing looks compared to last season ? Just sayin.
Like the season opener last year vs the Jets, Kubiak & Co had xtra time to prepare for last nights game and they fell flat on their face so I'm thinkin maybe their best game this season maybe will be the Thursday night game with the short week to get ready ? But still I didn't expect a victory in Indy, it's just the way we lost.
About KJ - he made a couple plays last night, but for the second week in a row I found myself wondering how much thought the Texans gave to drafting the Pats rookie from Rutgers, Devin McCourtney, instead of Kareem who made another big play in their game vs the Vikings. And whoever said Smith was talked into drafting KJ by Saban has got the story wrong because had Smith paid attention to the 'Bama coach he would know he was saying Kareem
should remain in school another year. But I'm not for burying Kareem yet, because like Gruden said last night, even 2nd and 3rd string DBs can look OK when
they're on a defense that's got pass-rushers like Freeney up front (where the hell were you Mario ?).
Glad to know you know the results. So what will you be doing with your Sundays from here on out?
This is a nice time of year to be playing golf. Or take the kids and the wife to the beach. Hell, anything but watch that horribly inept excuse for a pro football team, coached by Rubiack's Cube, and called an address (Texans), for cryin' out loud!!!!!!!!! And after more than 50 years of this same crap, I know I have the right to complain. I've been been through it all.
Keith
11-02-2010, 07:18 PM
I'm just going to quietly pat myself on the back for not deleting this week's game thread....
:o
painekiller
11-02-2010, 09:34 PM
I'm just going to quietly pat myself on the back for not deleting this week's game thread....
:o
pat pat pat... But on second thought maybe you should have...:confused:
chuck
11-02-2010, 09:42 PM
I'm just going to quietly pat myself on the back for not deleting this week's game thread....
It's only going to get worse.
I watched Gary Kubiak's press conference and I noticed he kept repeating how the Texans 3rd down conversions were terrible - especially in the first half (0/6). He seemed to blame a lot of the lack of offensive rhythm and pass-happy possessions on this. The Texans finished 3/11 in 3rd down conversions. Here's how they break down:
First half:
1. On 3rd and 10, Schaub sacked.
2. On 3rd and 6, pass inc.
3. On 3rd and 2, pass inc.
4. On 3rd and 5, Schaub sacked.
5. On 3rd and 10, pass complete to AJ for 9 yards. (Texans punt on 4th down)
6. On 3rd and 4, pass inc.
Second half:
7. On 3rd and 1, Schaub sneaks for the 1st down.
8. On 3rd and 3, pass complete to AJ for 28 yard TD.
9. On 3rd and 10, short pass to Foster complete for -1.
10. On 3rd and 3, Foster runs for 10.
11. On 3rd and 10, Schaub sacked/stripped for turnover.
Totals: 3 sacks (1 fumble), 3 incompletions, 2 completed passes that come up short, 2 successful runs, 1 passing TD
Not sure what all this means other than Schaub didn't have his best day on 3rd downs. Of course, his protection is partly to blame here.... The only 2 runs were both successful.....
HPF Bob
11-03-2010, 09:14 AM
To beat the Colts, you have to get the lead early and play keep-away from Manning. I felt the Texans knew this and tried to cross them up with passes but Schaub just wasn't making completions. Their DBs were jumping the slant-ins.
They should have gone to the running game much sooner and made them commit to stopping the run. They had success in the second half by pounding the rock and then passing off play-action but it took them far too long to figure this out.
What upset me more was the poor tackling by the defense. Somebody needs to figure out what tackling drills the Steelers do and then teach the same thing. Everytime I watch Pittsburgh, their people wrap up and put the man on the ground. The Texans would rather hit them with a shoulder and hope they fall down. IMO, that's what is keeping us from being a better team - all the extra yards our opponents get because we don't tackle them.
Joshua
11-03-2010, 10:42 AM
Speaking of Kube's press conference, did you catch where he said he wasn't thinking about whether he would go for it on 4th down when he called a pass play on 3rd and 2, even though we ended up going for it and not converting with yet another incompletion? To me, this is a very damning admission. How can he not be thinking even one play ahead? Particularly for someone who likes to go for it on 4th down as much as he does. If there is any chance you will go for it on 4th, your 3rd down playcall has to consider this. Considering that his offensive X's and O's are the only thing that Kubiak can realistically claim to be better than average at, his acknowledgement that his playcalling is this off the cuff bothers me.
Plus, IMO, this is the 2nd time he's done this. Remember OT of the Redskins game when they threw it on 3rd and 4 and from the Redskins 35 or so and then decided not to try a 53 yard FG? I got the distinct impression then that he was making decisions on the fly and was not thinking ahead whatsoever then as well.
nunusguy
11-03-2010, 01:34 PM
Speaking of Kube's press conference, did you catch where he said he wasn't thinking about whether he would go for it on 4th down when he called a pass play on 3rd and 2, even though we ended up going for it and not converting with yet another incompletion? To me, this is a very damning admission. How can he not be thinking even one play ahead?
Excellent point and yea, it's troubling to hear Kubiak say (based on his own words here) he's basically playing it by the "seat of his pants" with no apparent thought to the subsequent play(s) let alone the subsequent series of plays.
Nconroe
11-03-2010, 02:04 PM
Well, could be, but the players on Colts offense and defense whipped our players on offense and defense, whatever the calls were. We didn't execute those calls very well. A quick two yard pass ought to be fairly safe. I likely would have preferred runs by Arain as well, knowing the pass didn't work.
cadams
11-03-2010, 05:06 PM
Well, could be, but the players on Colts offense and defense whipped our players on offense and defense, whatever the calls were. We didn't execute those calls very well. A quick two yard pass ought to be fairly safe. I likely would have preferred runs by Arain as well, knowing the pass didn't work.
even without knowing that the pass play wasn't going to work i would have preferred a run call there. at that point they hadn't held the texans to less than two yards on a rushing play. kubiak was trying to outsmart the colts by calling a pass when everyone knew he should have run the ball. unfortunately he only outsmarts himself in those situation.
also, heard on the radio this morning that when he was asked about why the offense was so pass heavy, and given the stats on it, in the first half of games this season (and particularly on the first series of the first half) kubiak responded by saying he didn't realize that they had been that unbalanced. i am sincerely hoping he was not being serious, becuase if he was they are in more trouble from a coaching perspective than i could have imagined.
TheMatrix31
11-03-2010, 05:49 PM
I watched Gary Kubiak's press conference and I noticed he kept repeating how the Texans 3rd down conversions were terrible - especially in the first half (0/6). He seemed to blame a lot of the lack of offensive rhythm and pass-happy possessions on this. The Texans finished 3/11 in 3rd down conversions. Here's how they break down:
First half:
1. On 3rd and 10, Schaub sacked.
2. On 3rd and 6, pass inc.
3. On 3rd and 2, pass inc.
4. On 3rd and 5, Schaub sacked.
5. On 3rd and 10, pass complete to AJ for 9 yards. (Texans punt on 4th down)
6. On 3rd and 4, pass inc.
Second half:
7. On 3rd and 1, Schaub sneaks for the 1st down.
8. On 3rd and 3, pass complete to AJ for 28 yard TD.
9. On 3rd and 10, short pass to Foster complete for -1.
10. On 3rd and 3, Foster runs for 10.
11. On 3rd and 10, Schaub sacked/stripped for turnover.
Totals: 3 sacks (1 fumble), 3 incompletions, 2 completed passes that come up short, 2 successful runs, 1 passing TD
Not sure what all this means other than Schaub didn't have his best day on 3rd downs. Of course, his protection is partly to blame here.... The only 2 runs were both successful.....
The third and 2 pass incomplete sticks out like a sore thumb.
superbowlbound
11-03-2010, 10:51 PM
I waited till today to post, because this is typically the day when the emotion fades, I take a truly objective look at the game again, and then start gearing up for next week, and I was livid after the game. So much so, in fact, that when I came home and my girl asked me about the game, I got so worked up that I had to go sit in the back yard for half an hour with the dog before I could go to bed.
That said, nothing's changed. I'm every bit as hot today as I was Monday night. Our coaching staff is a joke. Bottom line. We can't tackle for shit (though I was pleased that the defense only gave up 23. baby steps.), Kubes still has absolutely no idea how to manage a clock, and he can't gameplan is way out of a bag made of fruit rollups. (I just thought of that right now. How different life would have been if those existed in elementary school)
We have the blueprint for beating the peyton mannings: run the goddammed ball. Eat the clock, keep captain short arms off the field, and our backs are good enough to move the chains. What do we do? We start the game with 4 straight passes. NOT running the ball right off the bat makes zero sense to me anyway, especially with Arian being as good as he is. Schaub is at his best with a lead. He's more comfortable, he makes better reads, he gets rid of the ball quicker. If it's tied, or god forbid, we're behind, he looks like he presses a lot more, as if he feels like he HAS to score THIS DRIVE, which forces him into bad decisions in the name of "making a play." Cush was a total non-factor in the middle, and he looked completely lost doing it.
With this game, I, an admitted Kubiak apologist, have jumped ship on him. The guy has not learned one damn thing since he got here. He can't gameplan, he can't manage a clock, and if you can't think ONE PLAY ahead, especially on a 3rd and 2 when you're in 4 down territory, you don't have any business running a football team. Period. If I can think 3 plays ahead on madden, you, as a professional, ought to be thinking AT LEAST 1 play ahead. I almost hope we end up at like 6-10, just to be sure we get rid of this guy. Gruden's sounding REALLY good right about now.
Also, what the hell happened to that bootleg pass across the field to jacoby that we ran in preseason? it worked twice for 40 yard touchdowns then, and we haven't run it not once this whole regular season.
chuck
11-04-2010, 10:55 AM
Excellent post, SBB. It's funny, I'm not nearly as angry as maybe I should be, just sort of resigned to another disappointing season of underachievement. The sad thing is once they do shitcan that idiot and hire someone who knows how to run a football team we'll be all dressed up with nowhere to go.
I have a hard time getting my head around the fact that Gary Kubiak has spent years in the NFL as an OC and cannot or will not think two plays ahead at a critical juncture. And we all know that the sequence to which he admitted being an idiot is not an isolated incident by any stretch.
Blitzwood
11-04-2010, 11:58 AM
Well said SBB.
I was thinking after the game- It sure would be nice if Bill Cowers came out of retirement and came here, I've had it with Kubes.
After that shalacking we took on a Monday night game, that he had two weeks to prepare for, I just don't understand how the team he's supposedly coaching, just comes out so flat footed and simply looks like they're just going through the motions. You'd think they'd be amped up for a nationally televised game.
After watching Sunday Nights Pitt vs N.O. game(probably the best pro game I've seen in some time) I realized the difference in coaching abilities and styles. We simply just don't have it on the Texans. The speed of those two defenses and the urgency and desire to win just isn't found on our local product.
vBulletin® v3.8.2, Copyright ©2000-2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.