Favre to the Texans?

[coloradodude]

Adam Schefter reports that the best team to transition to from the Packers would be the Houston Texans. He said they do have alot of money tied up in Matt Schaub so might not happen.

Just before that he said Farve would only go to someone that's a contender.


Thought I'd throw that out there for you guys about our future!

[papabear]

No way. Not going to happen.

[coloradodude]

Yeah, I agree. I should've emphasized the important part to me with a question.

If we didn't have quite abit of money tied up with Schaub would Farve consider us "a contender"? Just how close are we really? I think we 9 and 7, maybe 10 and 6 this year and make the playoffs for a taste.

[kravix]

This would never happen. I have heard them on the radio the last few weeks and Houston has come up as a great fit for Farve and the team. I think that is about the dumbest thing I have heard though. It shows the lack of knowledge they have about our teams identity, direction, and leadership.

We arent in a win now mode. Kubiak and Smith are trying to build a team that can compete for years and years, not just throw up a hail mary and hope like hell we catch it. Bringing in Farve would be a bigger disruption than a help to get this team to be able to compete every year.

[NBT]

Smith and Kubiak have a master plan, and it doesn't allow for a sidetrack like Favre would be.

[Bigtinylittle]

You mean people actually get paid for saying stuff like that? This goes to show why I never read or listen to what the national guys say about the Texans. They rarely have a clue. Stick with the local guys if you want to know about the Texans. By the way, our offense, even with our all-star receiver, our starting RB and our QB out for a big chunk of games, still ranked well ahead of our defense in NFL stats.

This is about as likely to happen as Bud Adams selling the Titans and trying to buy the Texans.

[HPF Bob]

Why do we want Brett Favre when we already have Sage Rosenfels?

But, seriously, as long as the Texans are selling out, there's no reason to bring Favre to Houston. He's an expensive short-term solution to a long-term problem. This isn't like Roger Clemens signing with the Astros. The Astros were already a veteran team with some of their best players close to retirement. The Texans are a young team who don't think they are one or two players away from making a Super Bowl run.

The comment misses the mark on so many levels. Besides, didn't I see a crawl where Favre wanted to play for another cold-weather team? That ain't us.

[ArlingtonTexan]

In terms of running a similiar offense yes, bt making sense for the organization, not so much.

[Nconroe]

Absolutely a bad idea for any team. Farve has been pretty bad last several years, ok, last year better than previous several, just luck. He needs to retire. He was good in what was it, 1993, not 2008.

[TheMatrix31]

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no!

I don't want that attention whore on my team. Go retire and STAY retired, Brett!

[KJ3]

c'mon....this is espn taking the deadest part of the sports calendar and finding something to cling to. espn is like a manipulative girlfriend, sucking the life out of anything it can. hey espn, it isn't breaking news after 4 or 5 hours....or days....it's only breaking news once...

[ArlingtonTexan]

c'mon....this is espn taking the deadest part of the sports calendar and finding something to cling to. espn is like a manipulative girlfriend, sucking the life out of anything it can. hey espn, it isn't breaking news after 4 or 5 hours....or days....it's only breaking news once...

While what you say might be generally true, this particular story came from NFLnetwork.

[KJ3]

ouchie for nfln. although it is football related and their whole programming is football related and this has probably been their only story in 2 months...

besides, it's not like espn is looking around for more stories haha...they've settled squarely in the asscrack between the packers and brett favre.

these national networks need to keep somebody, who views football through a pair of goggles known as common sense, in every city so they can just call them up right before they say something stupid to find out if what they are saying is silly or not.

[mussop]

Absolutely a bad idea for any team. Farve has been pretty bad last several years, ok, last year better than previous several, just luck. He needs to retire. He was good in what was it, 1993, not 2008.

JUST LUCK?

Favre 2007 stats
RAT 95.7 YARDS 4155 TD 28 INT 15
Takes Green Bay to the NFC Champoinship game while surrounded by arguably less talent than any other playoff team and comes up just 3 pionts shy of beating eventual World Champion NY Giants and going to the SUPERBOWL! JUST LUCK?

Matt Schaub 2007 STATS
RAT 87.2 YDS 2,241 TD 9 INT 9

Sage Rosenfels 2007 STATS
RAT 84.8 YDS 1,684 TD 15 INT 12

Favre hasnt missed a game since 1993. Thats 16 games a year for 15 years.:eek: Some of you need to get a grip on youre perspective of this team. You are all feeling a little to warm and fuzzy about the Texans. I have high hopes to but cmon man, if we have a chance to get one of the premier QB's of the last 15 years we should jump all over it. Yeh were building a winner here and going about the right way but the QB position is the most important position there is.

You really think Shaub would mind being tudored by a HOF QB for the next couple of years? Do you honestly believe Favres presence would harm this teams growth? One of the beggest question marks about this team is whether or not Schaub is ready/capable of being the leader of this team. He (Shaub) could learn from one of if not the best leaders the NFL has ever had.

We dont know for sure if Shaub can last a whole year. Sage is a FA after next year. Do you honestly think he'll be back? I know it wont happen but if you could get Favre for a 3rd or 4th round pick or even for Sage, DO IT NOW!

[Joe Joe]

JUST LUCK?

Favre 2007 stats
RAT 95.7 YARDS 4155 TD 28 INT 15

Following two bad years. The picks used to get him will be better than him in 3 seasons.

[ArlingtonTexan]

If i truly thought the texans were a Qb away from being a superbowl team it would be worth it. Outside of that, the texans need to find out if Schaub is a legitimate starting NFL QB, and they can't do that with Schaub spending time as understudying for another year or two.

[kravix]

Some of you need to get a grip on youre perspective of this team. You are all feeling a little to warm and fuzzy about the Texans. I have high hopes to but cmon man, if we have a chance to get one of the premier QB's of the last 15 years we should jump all over it. Yeh were building a winner here and going about the right way but the QB position is the most important position there is.



I dont see Favre giving the Texans any better chance to goto the playoffs this year than either of our QB's. He may have been a great QB, but this team needs stability in the positions we have good players and concentration and growth in the areas that are weak. Not shakup for the sake of bringing in a legend.

If I was a fan of teams like the Packers, Carolina, Minnesota, Chicago and a few other that a QB like Farve could put us over the cusp then maybe, but still you get 1-2 years from him. It makes no sense.

It is also a matter of our FO's mentality, which is not spend big and win now. Kubiak is a coach that wants to build a team to win for years and is willing to take some time to make it happen. He isnt instant about instant gratification.

[nunusguy]

McGinn writes that a source said Favre had continued to use a Packers-issued cell phone and that when the team checked the phone records it found “repeated calls to coach Brad Childress and offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.”
The possibility of Favre having used a phone issued by the Packers had been speculated on last week after the Associated Press reported that Green Bay informed the NFL it felt “an investigation of the phone records would show more than ‘normal contact’ between the Vikings and Favre, even before he formally asked for his release to play for another team.”
http://ww3.startribune.com/vikingsblog/?p=1719
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I dunno, is Brett not sneeky enough or not smart enough ? Better use your own phone next time you try to work out a deal on the side there Brettster.

[KJ3]

Some of you need to get a grip on youre perspective of this team.
haha yea....SOME of us need a grip hahaha...

You are all feeling a little to warm and fuzzy about the Texans. I have high hopes to but cmon man, if we have a chance to get one of the premier QB's of the last 15 years we should jump all over it. Yeh were building a winner here and going about the right way but the QB position is the most important position there is.
that's exactly the problem homie, we would be getting brett favre at 38 not brett favre "of the last 15 years". and averaged out, his last handful of years have been not-so great.

You really think Shaub would mind being tudored by a HOF QB for the next couple of years?yes, he was promised a starting job. Do you honestly believe Favres presence would harm this teams growth?without question yes. you think the players opinion of favre's little kicking and screaming ordeal of the last few weeks has gone over well with anyone? One of the beggest question marks about this team is whether or not Schaub is ready/capable of being the leader of this team. He (Shaub) could learn from one of if not the best leaders the NFL has ever had.
it's a question mark because we haven't seen enough. as in: we need to see more schaub. besides, favre seemed like an awesome mentor to aaron rodgers...

We dont know for sure if Shaub can last a whole year.
what makes you think a 38 year old with 27 seasons of football on his body can? just because he did it last year and 26 seasons before that? that won't mean anything to anybody on the field.

Sage is a FA after next year. Do you honestly think he'll be back? I know it wont happen but if you could get Favre for a 3rd or 4th round pick or even for Sage, DO IT NOW!
favre for sage, eh? that's cool. i'm fine with favre the backup. except that he gets paid 12 mil or something ridiculous.

[Keith]

According to the Wisconsin State Journal, the Texans are one of eight team the Packers thinks are possible trading partners in a deal for Favre.


GREEN BAY — As the Green Bay Packers wait to see whether Brett Favre will indeed file his reinstatement papers with the NFL, the club is working its way through a list of teams it sees as potential trading partners for the sort-of-retired quarterback.

According to a league source, the teams on that list include the New York Jets, the Baltimore Ravens, the Miami Dolphins and the Houston Texans in the AFC and the Carolina Panthers, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Atlanta Falcons and Washington Redskins in the NFC.

http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/297417

[mussop]

haha yea....SOME of us need a grip hahaha...

:rolleyes:

that's exactly the problem homie, we would be getting brett favre at 38 not brett favre "of the last 15 years". and averaged out, his last handful of years have been not-so great.

Look at the talent level he has played with the last 3 years. Then consider what he accomplished last year, "homie".


yes, he was promised a starting job.
Thats the problem. He should have to earn a starting job not be promissed it. If we got Favre and Shaub outplayed him fine.

without question yes. in what way? :confused:

you think the players opinion of favre's little kicking and screaming ordeal of the last few weeks has gone over well with anyone?Show me one single report that another player thinks less of Favre for wanting to come back. Only people like you and the Media are of the opinion that Favre is kicking and screaming. Its really been blown out of porportion.

it's a question mark because we haven't seen enough. as in: we need to see more schaub. besides, favre seemed like an awesome mentor to aaron rodgers... He would have to stay on the field for us to see more of him.

what makes you think a 38 year old with 27 seasons of football on his body can? just because he did it last year and 26 seasons before that? that won't mean anything to anybody on the field.

:rolleyes:

favre for sage, eh? that's cool. i'm fine with favre the backup. except that he gets paid 12 mil or something ridiculous.

If he is better than Schaub why should he be the backup?

[mussop]

According to the Wisconsin State Journal, the Texans are one of eight team the Packers thinks are possible trading partners in a deal for Favre.



http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/sports/297417



I cant wait to see Favre in steel blue! (in the wheel chair guy on familly guys voice) LETS DO THIS....YEAH!!!

[Keith]

Well, don't pin your hopes on it. I don't have any linkage on this, so take it fwiw... unsubstantiated interweb chatter... but word is when the Packers called the Texans about a trade, the Texans said no.

Probably not a surprising answer, either.

[KJ3]

Look at the talent level he has played with the last 3 years. Then consider what he accomplished last year, "homie".
consider what he accomplished last year with a great field of talent around him? so his team has to be good or he doesn't show up? consider it considered.

Thats the problem. He should have to earn a starting job not be promissed it. If we got Favre and Shaub outplayed him fine.
maybe so...but that doesn't change the fact that it's still schaub's job. if he didn't lose it to sage, favre shouldn't even be a concern.

in what way? :confused:

Show me one single report that another player thinks less of Favre for wanting to come back. Only people like you and the Media are of the opinion that Favre is kicking and screaming. Its really been blown out of porportion.
i have to have an article for that? for cereal? people generally dislike temper tantrums, so i have to assume nfl players are people and that favre IS throwing himself a pity-party...so put one and one together. it makes eleven. my guess is the packers lockerroom isn't a field of daisies right now.

He would have to stay on the field for us to see more of him.

so you agree? more playing time for schaub. because he was damn good while on the field, devoid of any sort of weapon-type player no less.


:rolleyes:

why am i even keeping this up? favre to the texans: bum-dum pshhhhhh!! favre using a packer cell phone to call the vikings: bum-dum pshhhhhH!! brett favre is a 4 year old girl crossing her arms and stomping the ground. you know what bad little children need? a good shutting the f up.

[cadams]

Man, I just don't see this happening. I don't think this is the direction that Smith and Kubiak really want to go, especially with Sage still at the backup. Also, I am not sure I would like this move either. I can't imagine GB would give him away, and the Texans need thier draft picks.

[KJ3]

Man, I just don't see this happening. I don't think this is the direction that Smith and Kubiak really want to go, especially with Sage still at the backup. Also, I am not sure I would like this move either. I can't imagine GB would give him away, and the Texans need thier draft picks.

nailed it 100%. not a chink in that armor.

[Joshua]

The way I see it is Green Bay doesn't want Favre because it would rather move forward with Aaron Rodgers (despite Favre's legendary status there and the PR nightmare of telling him he's not wanted). I could be wrong but I suspect it is a virtual guarantee that Kubiak and Smith wouldn't trade Schaub for Rodgers. If that's the case, why would the Texans want Favre over Schaub when even Green Bay doesn't want him over Rodgers?

[TexicanMexican]

The way I see it is Green Bay doesn't want Favre because it would rather move forward with Aaron Rodgers (despite Favre's legendary status there and the PR nightmare of telling him he's not wanted). I could be wrong but I suspect it is a virtual guarantee that Kubiak and Smith wouldn't trade Schaub for Rodgers. If that's the case, why would the Texans want Favre over Schaub when even Green Bay doesn't want him over Rodgers?

I don't see him in a Texans uniform either. More than likely they have a script and are sticking to it unless something too good to pass up comes along. Farve doesn't fit that category. At least I don't think he does.

[mussop]

consider what he accomplished last year with a great field of talent around him? so his team has to be good or he doesn't show up? consider it considered.

Great field of talent? Whatever!:rolleyes:

maybe so...but that doesn't change the fact that it's still schaub's job. if he didn't lose it to sage, favre shouldn't even be a concern. Just because he didnt loose it to a career backup he shouldnt have to earn his spot?

i have to have an article for that? for cereal? people generally dislike temper tantrums, so i have to assume nfl players are people and that favre IS throwing himself a pity-party...so put one and one together. it makes eleven. my guess is the packers lockerroom isn't a field of daisies right now.

Yes show me an article or even one single quote from a current player that as a problem with what is going on with Favre. While youre at it please explain how hes throwing a temper tantrum. Ridiculous!!!!:rolleyes:So he retired and now hes changed his mind. Big effen deal like its never happened before with any other player. :rolleyes: You are basically making the tantrum part up because you think it makes youre argument look better. Sad!!:(

so you agree? more playing time for schaub. because he was damn good while on the field, devoid of any sort of weapon-type player no less. Really, Favre was damn better with about the same amount of help.


:rolleyes:

why am i even keeping this up? favre to the texans: bum-dum pshhhhhh!! favre using a packer cell phone to call the vikings: bum-dum pshhhhhH!! brett favre is a 4 year old girl crossing her arms and stomping the ground. you know what bad little children need? a good shutting the f up.

Favre didnt have a cell phone that belonged to the Packers. More made up crap by the media to doll up their story. Kinda like youre version where he is throwing a "tantrum". bum-dum pshhhhhH!! :rolleyes:

[coloradodude]

Personally, I think the Texans see a type of Tom Brady in Matt Schaub. More of a calm, careful, methodical, cerebral QB than an athletic maverick.

The athletic playmakers do put butts in the seats because of the excitement they create but the cerebral QB's throughout the history of the league have more wins...Staubach, Griese (not Brian), etc.

I respect Favre for many reasons but he should stay retired. Where's he really gonna go that's considered a contender that doesn't already have a QB?

[Nconroe]

heresay is GB fans and players are split on support of Farve vs Rogers. many sites support that.

Just to look at a few of Farve's numbers of last three years and career to compare with say Schaub or Rosenfelds. 05 and 06 were not so good at all for Farve.

QB year Pct TD INT SCK Fumb RTG TO PT/G Wins
Farve 2007 66.5 28 15 15 9 95.7 +4 27.2 13
Farve 2006 56.0 18 18 21 8 72.7 8
Farve 2005 61.3 20 29 24 10 70.9 4
Farve overall 61.4 442 288 439 147 85.7

Schaub 07 66.4 9 9 16 7 87.2 -13 23.7 4
Rosenfels 7 64.2 15 12 6 4 84.8 4

Carr 2006 68.3 11 12 41 16 74.4 6

just stats, choose the ones you think might help your argument. to me looks like qb sacks, time to run a play, has a large effect on results

[KJ3]

Great field of talent? Whatever!:rolleyes:
my mistake, you're right. 13 wins (and a playoff win, right?) that favre took that pathetic packer team and put them over the top in the 4th quarter. talentless punkasses.

saying "whatever" and hitting an eye-rolling smiley? great point.

Just because he didnt loose it to a career backup he shouldnt have to earn his spot?
no. it's schaub's job to lose. why is that so hard to understand? he was given the job. if he was bad in his time on the field i might understand your manbone for favre but schaub was more than enough when healthy.

Yes show me an article or even one single quote from a current player that as a problem with what is going on with Favre. While youre at it please explain how hes throwing a temper tantrum. Ridiculous!!!!:rolleyes:So he retired and now hes changed his mind. Big effen deal like its never happened before with any other player. :rolleyes: You are basically making the tantrum part up because you think it makes youre argument look better. Sad!!:(

Really, Favre was damn better with about the same amount of help.
uhhh....really? have you eyes and ears? he tearfully retired and now he wants back, but not really, but he does, but he still hasn't filed his papers, but he's been using this cell phone, except the cell phone isn't real, but he has been in some contact with the vikings, but goodell wants in on the action, but he was in an interview with greta-face, but everybody oh i don't know can't decide between him and rodgers and if all of this is fake then WHAT THE F DO YOU CALL IT?!?!?! this is an athlete throwing a full on tantrum. just because you won't pay attention and then say, "WHTAVVERRR :rolleyes:!" doesn't mean favre is being a good little girl.

Favre didnt have a cell phone that belonged to the Packers. More made up crap by the media to doll up their story. Kinda like youre version where he is throwing a "tantrum". bum-dum pshhhhhH!! :rolleyes:
so...if a national sports news network, maybe like...i don't know...espn or something reports it for a day or two and i mention it on a message board before they call it back in i'm the idiot? how 'bout this:

people supporting favre to the texans, bumdum psssshh!!
three elephants fall out of a plane, two hit land, one hits water, bumdum psssshh!!!
two snare drums and a cymbal roll down a cliff, bumdum psssshhh!!!

[painekiller]

Do you really think any of the teammates will/would go on the record and complain about the almighty Farve? Not just no but hell no they will not. Unlike Farve himself (when he inserted himself into Walkers negotiation) they know when to be quite.

That said, the NFL network did report that many of the packers wish Brett and the story would go away. Sorry i do not have it Tivoed.

Why would the players think that about superman? because when Farve retired, the team needed to move on and it did. The management and players prepared themselves for life after Farve, now he decides that he is bigger than the Packers and he wants to play. Never mind they have 3 quality QBs on the roster, unproven yes, but quality.

Farve go to CBS or FOX or ESPN and work on Sunday.

[Dave]

Well, don't pin your hopes on it. I don't have any linkage on this, so take it fwiw... unsubstantiated interweb chatter... but word is when the Packers called the Texans about a trade, the Texans said no.

Probably not a surprising answer, either.

I see this as very short-sighted by Smith and Co.

They should have at least given a listen to what GB was willing to offer them for taking an over-the-hill, whining headache off their hands.

[cadams]

I see this as very short-sighted by Smith and Co.

They should have at least given a listen to what GB was willing to offer them for taking an over-the-hill, whining headache off their hands.

I would guess that they will be looking for a first day pick. The Texans need all of their draft picks. They aren't good/desperate enough to give away a high draft pick for a 1-2 year rental.

This is exactly opposite of shortsighted as far as I can tell.

[Nconroe]

Green Bay is desperate and would give us the first round pick along with Farve, that being the shortsighted part as I think some humor in that comment as I took it anyways.

[papabear]

I heard one of the talk radio guys say they think the market for Favre is only about a 4th rounder right now.....if some QB's get injured it could go to a second. Don't know if they were getting it from a source with a team or if that was just their best guess.

[cadams]

Green Bay is desperate and would give us the first round pick along with Farve, that being the shortsighted part as I think some humor in that comment as I took it anyways.

you are probably correct sir.

[KJ3]

I see this as very short-sighted by Smith and Co.

They should have at least given a listen to what GB was willing to offer them for taking an over-the-hill, whining headache off their hands.

c'mon man, that's just a silly thing to say. what are you expecting? please take favre and 2 1st rounders? anything less than that isn't even getting a second thought. there is no reason to place all the faith in the world in schaub, i understand that but what he's shown has been very good. at this point though, despite earning his legendary status, favre is not a clearly better quarterback than schaub.

[Dave]

Green Bay is desperate and would give us the first round pick along with Farve, that being the shortsighted part as I think some humor in that comment as I took it anyways.

We have a winner!

[Bigtinylittle]

Favre is now rumored to be going to the Jets. If he does, I think it would be funny if next year he pulls that same "maybe I'm retired, maybe I'm not" routine on THEM.

[mussop]

my mistake, you're right. 13 wins (and a playoff win, right?) that favre took that pathetic packer team and put them over the top in the 4th quarter. talentless punkasses.

Quick name some of these great players that Favre was surrounded by. I help you out with the obvious. Donald Driver. There thats it. 13 wins (and a playoff win, right?) that favre took that pathetic packer team and put them over the top. You think Schaub could of taken that team that far? You probably do.:rolleyes:

saying "whatever" and hitting an eye-rolling smiley? great point. Sometimes I just dont have the energy to deal with "talentless punkasses".

no. it's schaub's job to lose. why is that so hard to understand? he was given the job. if he was bad in his time on the field i might understand your manbone for favre but schaub was more than enough when healthy. You prove my point by underlining GIVEN. If anyone has a manbone its you for Schaub. We finished 8 & 8 if thats "more than enough for you that explains alot.

uhhh....really? have you eyes and ears? he tearfully retired and now he wants back, but not really, but he does, but he still hasn't filed his papers, but he's been using this cell phone, except the cell phone isn't real, but he has been in some contact with the vikings, but goodell wants in on the action, but he was in an interview with greta-face, but everybody oh i don't know can't decide between him and rodgers and if all of this is fake then WHAT THE F DO YOU CALL IT?!?!?! this is an athlete throwing a full on tantrum. just because you won't pay attention and then say, "WHTAVVERRR :rolleyes:!" doesn't mean favre is being a good little girl.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/07/11/favre-waffled-on-retirement-in-march/
yeah what a bad guy. He retired and then changed his mind. Whatta jerk!:rolleyes:

so...if a national sports news network, maybe like...i don't know...espn or something reports it for a day or two and i mention it on a message board before they call it back in i'm the idiot? how 'bout this:

people supporting favre to the texans, bumdum psssshh!!
three elephants fall out of a plane, two hit land, one hits water, bumdum psssshh!!!
two snare drums and a cymbal roll down a cliff, bumdum psssshhh!!!

This is pretty much how I feel about youre responses to this thread. :p

c'mon man, that's just a silly thing to say. what are you expecting? please take favre and 2 1st rounders? anything less than that isn't even getting a second thought. there is no reason to place all the faith in the world in schaub, i understand that but what he's shown has been very good. at this point though, despite earning his legendary status, favre is not a clearly better quarterback than schaub.

This is a clear indicator that you are clueless about QBplay.
I like Shaub but to say he is a better QB than Favre is moronic. Schaub has accomplished nothing and Favre is a shoein for the HOF. In short Schaub doesnt deserve to hold Favres jock strap.


Favre won the Associated Press's MVP Most Valuable Player (MVP) Award three times, all in consecutive years (1995, 1996, and 1997; the last shared with Barry Sanders).
In 1999, he was ranked number 82 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Football Players.[70] In 2005, TSN published another special feature honoring the 50 Greatest Quarterbacks. With his career statistics considerably augmented, Favre was ranked number 4, behind Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana and John Elway, and just ahead of previous Packer quarterback legend Bart Starr.
Favre was named the Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year in 2007.[71]
Favre was selected to play in the Pro Bowl nine times in his career.[72]
Favre was a seven-time All-Pro selection.
Favre was named to the NFL 1990s All-Decade Team.
Received the NFC Offensive Player of the Week honor 12 times.
Wisconsin Governor Jim Doyle declared November 29, 2004 as Brett Favre Day to honor Favre's 200th consecutive NFL regular season start.[73] That night, the Packers defeated the St. Louis Rams on Monday Night Football.
Men's Health Magazine voted Favre the "Toughest Person in America" in 2003.[74]
Chris Greicius Celebrity Award from the Make a Wish Foundation in 2007 for "being a true standout, even among the many generous celebrities who help create magical experiences for the kids who wish to meet them."[75]
United States Sports Academy Male Athlete of the Year Award in 2007 finishing ahead of Tiger Woods and Tom Brady.[76]
NFC Offensive Player of the Year in 2007 presented by the NFL 101 Award Committee.[77]
FedEx Air player of the year award in 2007.[78]

Records and milestones
Favre currently possesses most of the well-known NFL career records for quarterbacks, including:

Most AP NFL MVP awards: 3 (1995, 1996, 1997)[79]
Most consecutive starts by a quarterback (NFL): 253[4] (275 including playoffs)
Most wins by a starting quarterback (NFL) regular season career: 160[4] (Regular season record: 160-93)
Most career passing touchdowns: 442[80][81]
Most career passing yards: 61,655[80]
Most career pass completions: 5,377[82][4]
Most career pass attempts: 8,758[4][3][83]
Most career interceptions thrown: 288[80][84]
Most career games with at least three touchdowns: 63[48]
Favre holds the record for consecutive starts by a quarterback with 253. His streak ranks behind only Jim Marshall, who started 270 straight games.[4]

In the playoffs, Favre stands behind only Joe Montana in pass completions, passing touchdowns, passing yards and passing attempts.

In addition, Favre owns a number of team records, having printed his name into almost every passing category in the annals of Green Bay Packers history, most recently setting the team record for consecutive completions with 20 on November 22, 2007, against the Detroit Lions.[85] With 38 "come-from-behind" 4th quarter wins & 2 more overtime victories, Brett Favre is the Green Bay Packers record holder and second only to John Elway's 47 4th quarter or OT "come-back wins", in NFL history.


Consecutive starts streak
Since first being named the starter of the Green Bay Packers before playing the Pittsburgh Steelers on September 27, 1992 Brett Favre never missed a game.[86] He is currently in first place for the most consecutive starts by a quarterback in the NFL and one of only five quarterbacks to have started over 100 consecutive games in NFL history. He failed to finish a game due to injury on only six occasions since taking control of the Packers as quarterback.[87] Besides Favre, there are only two other active streaks of 100 or more games, those of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Since the beginning of Favre's consecutive start streak, 212 other quarterbacks have started in the NFL,[88][89] 11 of them being back-ups to Favre at one point.[86] Among his former backups are: Don Majkowski, Ty Detmer, Mark Brunell, Steve Bono, Doug Pederson, Matt Hasselbeck, Danny Wuerffel, Aaron Brooks, and J. T. O'Sullivan. Two veteran backups to Favre never started another NFL game: Jim McMahon, and T.J. Rubley. The consecutive starts streak is widely considered one of the most notable streaks in sports, so much so that the Pro Football Hall of Fame has as an exhibit displaying the jersey Favre wore during his record breaking 117th consecutive start as a quarterback, and a section of their website devoted to what the Hall of Fame calls an "Iron Man".[90]


Here are some stories that should educate you a little.

SHAREHOLDERS HOSTILE TO THOMPSON
Posted on July 24th, 2008
As Packers General Manager Ted Thompson awkwardly attempts to keep the fans happy while keeping the franchise’s most popular player away, he had a rough go of it today at the team’s shareholders’ meeting.
Multiple reports indicate that the majority of the thousands of shareholders who showed up today in Green Bay were anti-Thompson and pro-Brett […]

GOODELL TELLS PACKERS TO WRAP UP FAVRE FIASCO
Posted on July 23rd, 2008
ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reports that NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has advised Packers G.M. Ted Thompson to truly move on without Brett Favre if the team plans to move on without Brett Favre.
And so it apparently was the call from Goodell that got the Packers to begin making calls in an effort to find a trade […]

FAVRE SHOWS AT LAMBEAU
Posted by Mike Florio on July 19, 2008, 11:10 p.m. EDT
As expected, “retired” quarterback Brett Favre made an appearance at Lambeau Field on Saturday night to introduce former Packers center Frank Winters for induction in the team’s Hall of Fame.
Speaking for roughly three minutes as he introduced Winters, Favre did not address the lingering tug-o-war between him and the team regarding his potential unretirement.
“That’s the thing about Green Bay,” said Favre. ”It’s a special place. There’s a lot of tradition. You think of the Packers, you think of all these great names, and to be a part of that — and I know Frank feels honored — is a special thing. I’m thankful that he asked me to be here.”
Favre also received the team’s annual MVP award on Saturday, and he called himself “an old, gray-haired quarterback showing I can still do it.”
That’s the problem. He still can do it. And still wants to.

[Nconroe]

well this site seems to have a lot of info on Brett. including links to his homepage.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/26/sports/football/26jets.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/f/brett_favre/index.html?excamp=GGSPgreenbaypackers&WT.srch=1&WT.mc_ev=click&WT.mc_id=GN-S-E-GG-SP-CT-green_bay_packers

sounds like if Brett petitions NFL to come back by Sunday then Green Bay can keep him or release him. And if released NY Jets and Tampa Bay have most interest.

here is a packer message board and thread on the division of team, obviously lots of different opinions, and this is where Brett did so well.

http://www.packerchatters.com/4ums/index.php?showtopic=11016

I think best way out is as someone mentioned, get a TV job for Sundays as an analyst during halftime and postgames. Do it quick.

[KJ3]

whatever ::rolleyes:


i'm not going any farther with you man. namecalling, taking what i say out of context, assuming what i think, all for a .00000000001% chance of favre ever coming here....no thankity.


i have a manbone for schaub? hardly. i haven't posted 6000 words about schaub on a different teams' message board.

[TheMatrix31]

Anyone who even considers wanting Favre on this team should look at the media circus that surrounds this attention whore. Would you seriously want all THAT surrounding our team? I certainly wouldn't.

[Big Texas]

why am i even keeping this up? favre to the texans: bum-dum pshhhhhh!! favre using a packer cell phone to call the vikings: bum-dum pshhhhhH!! brett favre is a 4 year old girl crossing her arms and stomping the ground. you know what bad little children need? a good shutting the f up.

I am not a fan of the deal either, but for a HOFamer like Brett he doesnt deserve this type of talk. That guy deserve much respect.

[KJ3]

he does as long as he makes a circus out of his own career. if he wants to turn it into a punchline, i'm going to laugh.

[coloradodude]

Looks like it's gonna be the NY Jets.

Could be a perfect fit.

[jppaul]

Wow, this thread is still going...

[Bigtinylittle]

Yeah, it's still going even though it's old. I guess it must be on steroids.:)

[mussop]

he does as long as he makes a circus out of his own career. if he wants to turn it into a punchline, i'm going to laugh.


Now that all the facts are out you are still blaming Favre for all that has happend? :confused: You either hate him or youre jealous. Sad!

[KJ3]

now that all the facts are out are you still blaming me for the texans wanting zero part of brett favre? either you're bringing up old topics to keep a stupid argument going or you're jealous that somehow i was able to gather that favre was a detriment to our team.

[mussop]

now that all the facts are out are you still blaming me for the texans wanting zero part of brett favre? either you're bringing up old topics to keep a stupid argument going or you're jealous that somehow i was able to gather that favre was a detriment to our team.

So now who would you rather have?:p :cool::D

[barrett]

So now who would you rather have?:p :cool::D

not brett favre. We already have a cheaper version to throw multiple interceptions for us.

Now if you are asking what defense and running game I'd rather have I would say the Jets. Or if you are asking whose schedule I'd rather have, I'd say the Jets. But I still wouldn't touch Brett Favre and his league leading INT total.

[coloradodude]

The question remains though, would the Jets be 8 and 3 right now if they had Schaub? Rosenburp?

Nope.

[popanot]

Favre - 20TDs / 13Ints.

Our QBs - 15TDs / 17Ints.

Yeah, I hate it when your QB has more TDs than INTs. :rolleyes:

[mussop]

Favre - 20TDs / 13Ints.

Our QBs - 15TDs / 17Ints.

Yeah, I hate it when your QB has more TDs than INTs. :rolleyes: You left out games missed. 0!

[barrett]

the guy leads the NFL in INTS and we have people lamenting the fact we didn't sign him. Probably the same people who chanted We Want Sage at the dolphins game.

[mussop]

the guy leads the NFL in INTS and we have people lamenting the fact we didn't sign him. Probably the same people who chanted We Want Sage at the dolphins game.

He also leads the #2 scoring offense (25th last year) in the leauge, hasnt missed a game this year and is leading his team to a playoff berth. Yeh what a looser huh? Wish our QB was that big of a looser.

[popanot]

the guy leads the NFL in INTS and we have people lamenting the fact we didn't sign him. Probably the same people who chanted We Want Sage at the dolphins game.I'll agree with you this wouldn't be the best place or fit for Favre, nor have I ever stated that I wanted him here (and wanting Sage is laughable). I just think the INT argument against Favre doesn't hold much weight. So what if he leads the league in INTs? He has more TDs than INTs, he's tough as hell, knows how to lead, and his teams win. We could only be so lucky to have those sort of tangibles or qualities at QB.

[KJ3]

So now who would you rather have?:p :cool::D

drew brees

[barrett]

So now who would you rather have?:p :cool::D


So I noticed you dug up this old thread after months of silence back in November. Any reason you didn't dig it up again lately?

Perhaps...
-(NFL leading 22 ints),
-Missed zero games (you were big on that) but has a 38 year old shoulder that gave out half way through the season leading to an epic collapse with the NFL's easiest schedule (2 TD and 9 INT in the last 5 games).
-Enough Pick 6's this year to start at QB for LSU
-probably got his coach fired and made Jets fans miss Chad Pennington

[Bigtinylittle]

I guess It's easy to fall in love with an older player based on what they've done before. We did it with Colvin, Molden, and Green. I'm glad we didn't do it with Favre. It made no sense. Schaub is pleanty good enough to take us a long way if we surround him with more good players. And his best years should still be ahead of him.
By the way, if Favre retires now, how do the Jets know he really means it?

[barrett]

I notice Mussop had nothing to say.

Luckily a few of Favre's teammates did. Maybe we can take theirs as the final word for whether Favre would have been a good pick-up for us this year.

From Thomas Jones - "The other day, the three interceptions really hurt us. I mean, that's just reality," Jones told the radio station. "If I were to sit here and say, 'Oh, man, it's OK,' that's not reality. ... I don't like it, I know everybody else on the team doesn't like it. You're jeopardizing the whole team because you're having a bad day. To me, that's not fair to everybody else. You're not the only one on the team. So when you get to the wire and somebody is just giving the game up, I mean, it's just not [fair]."

...

A veteran Jets player, quoted anonymously by Newsday, described Favre as a "distant" teammate who, when at the Jets' practice facility, spent his down time away from teammates in an office specially designated for him. "There was a lot of resentment in the room about him. He never socialized with us, never went to dinner with anyone."


Sounds like our front office was smart to stay well away from Favre, especially if they wanted to keep their job.