View Full Version : Aaron Schobel to the Texans?
dalemurphy
08-02-2010, 04:05 PM
http://www.texansbullblog.com
Rumors and reports are circulating that the Texans could sign Aaron Schobel this preseason if they want him. At this point, the Texans can not sign, contact, nor comment on Schobel because he is still officially a Buffalo Bill. John McClain has an informative article at http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/7135755.html that details the situation. Essentially, the Bills will be releasing Schobel and because of Schobel’s relationship with Bill Kollar (Texans DL coach), and his farm in Colombus, Texas… he would like to play in Houston.
Schoble is 32 years old and has been a highly successful DE pass rusher and playmaker in his career. He has suffered a number of injuries that past few years, limiting his practice time and gameday snaps, but he has remained a pass rushing force. He only played five games in 2008 due to injuries but rebounded last season with 10 sacks in 16 games, while still hampered with knee/leg ailments (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SchoAa99.htm).
He is an undersized, high energy DE. He has less than elite speed and strength but has a great motor and understands the finer points of the game. Though he is unlikely to remain and every down player, I think he would be highly effective in a DE rotation. The Texans have three DEs that are assured of making the roster: Mario, A.Smith, and Barwin. However, only Barwin is strictly an edge rusher. So, Schobel could certainly fit into the rotation. As a matter of a fact, it is a wonderful thought to imagine a 3rd and long with Schobel and Barwin lined up at DE and Mario and A. Smith both pinched in at DT. There are many combinations that could be effective, and I think a deeper rotation of the DL is something that will help the pass rush significantly. I know that Kollar believes in heavy rotation and keeping guys fresh and their motors running high (strange that Okoye had so many snaps last year under Kollar). I’m sure there will be more on this potential development soon. Essentially, his presence would push out at least two of the following DEs from the roster: Bulman, Jamison, Nading.
here’s a fun highlight from last season: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7OAzUqlaHQ
HPF Bob
08-02-2010, 05:05 PM
He certainly kills us. If he doesn't take time away from Barwin's development, I'm all for it.
Didn't he play at Rice?
dalemurphy
08-02-2010, 05:09 PM
He certainly kills us. If he doesn't take time away from Barwin's development, I'm all for it.
Didn't he play at Rice?
TCU.. and went to high school in Columbus, Tx.
dalemurphy
08-04-2010, 10:11 AM
Schobel will be a Texan in 24 Hours
I’m not Adam Schefter but my sources are as solid as ESPN’s sources saying “Bret Favre is retiring”. Multiple reports assert the Bills will cut Aaron Schobel today. Given the fact that the Bills GM is on record saying that they don’t want him on the team and given his huge contract, I am confident the reports are accurate.
Why do I have confidence he’s coming to Houston? Well, I am not always a believer in reports from John McClain. However, yesterday, McClain directly quoted Schobel saying that Houston is the team he wants to play for. McClain doesn’t make up quotes. When he is speculating or trying to fill newspaper/blog space, he will say “I think” or “I’m hearing”… Also, there seems to be some real momentum to this deal.
I think it is a great deal for the Texans. I’m not a guy who usually gets excited about big name free agents and 30+ year old veterans signing with my team but this move would make a ton of sense. The Texans have two pure edge rushers on their entire 80 man roster right now: Connor Barwin and Tim Jamison. Both players are young and somewhat unpolished. Antonio Smith is actually a better interior pass rusher and Mario, though he provides an excellent pass rush, is not a classic edge rusher.
more at http://www.texansbullblog.com
This would be a great short term signing. He does not have to play every down, can can rotate in to spell Mario and Antonio, as well as come in on obvious passing downs.
This would make our pass rush instantly better.
superbowlbound
08-04-2010, 11:54 AM
oh man. Can you imagine the push we'll get on 3rd and long with Mario and Smith on the inside and Barwin and Schobel on the outside? It's gonna be beautiful.
Not to be the pessimist of the bunch, but my guess he will use Rick Smith to get a better deal from the Patriots than he would normally get.
I mean really, a 33 year old defensive end? That is right up Belicheats alley.....
I hope I am wrong, but this seems to nice and neat for it to happen.
Who would have to be cut if we DID sign Schobel?
As far as the final 53.....Okam. This would push Antonio more inside more often, and Okam doesn't look like he will materialize.
Prior to that, probably someone we never heard of. Solomon had an article in the chronic about some rookie safety from Purdue, that is pretty much a kiss of death.
TheMatrix31
08-04-2010, 08:25 PM
Ideal. Get it done, Rick!
Nconroe
08-04-2010, 09:43 PM
As far as a spot taken, I guess it would be a DE we have now, and fourth DE is Bulman, who I'd hate to see go. High energy, great on special teams. And can play inside if required.
Since Schoebel played for Kollar before in Buffalo, Kollar would likely influence this decision a lot.
33 year old guys have flopped for us in past, but who knows, Scoebel had 10 sacks last year playing full time. if he's reduced to 3rd down only, likely not gonna be that much. He's smallish for DE, like 245.
This is the kinda guy New England has been getting past several years, but since Schoebel is from this area, this may his preference if they can work out the salary and incentives.
dalemurphy
08-04-2010, 11:31 PM
Not to be the pessimist of the bunch, but my guess he will use Rick Smith to get a better deal from the Patriots than he would normally get.
I mean really, a 33 year old defensive end? That is right up Belicheats alley.....
I hope I am wrong, but this seems to nice and neat for it to happen.
2010 uncapped rules don't allow the Patriots to offer a contract of more than $4 million a season because they were among the final 8 teams in the 2009 playoffs. It's confusing, but we would be able to outbid them rather easily, if we chose to... Plus, the Texans are younger, better, and closer to home.
painekiller
08-07-2010, 11:36 PM
I don't see a Schobel signing until camp is broken, he is on recorded as saying he will need two weeks to get game ready, so I look for him to sign around Aug 20th.
nunusguy
08-08-2010, 09:19 AM
I don't see a Schobel signing until camp is broken, he is on recorded as saying he will need two weeks to get game ready, so I look for him to sign around Aug 20th.
Or maybe it's just not gonna happen, atleast here in Houston no matter how logical some people think his signing here would be ?
And all of this talk about the Pats being in the running for Schobels services,
aren't they basically a 3-4 team and isn't Buffalos conversion to the 3-4 one of the reasons he's not there anymore ?
painekiller
08-08-2010, 02:20 PM
Or maybe it's just not gonna happen, atleast here in Houston no matter how logical some people think his signing here would be ?
And all of this talk about the Pats being in the running for Schobels services,
aren't they basically a 3-4 team and isn't Buffalos conversion to the 3-4 one of the reasons he's not there anymore ?
Every veteran that is released in the NFL is thought to be going to the Pats, am most of them do not. I really think few rumor mongers and most message board writers have little clue about the types of guys each team is looking for and what each player is looking for in the matter.
I am not going to worry on way or the other about the signing of Schobel, if we sign he will make the team better, IMO yes he will. But will he makes us better at a reasonable cost? That is the $4M to $8M question.
Being 4 deep at DE is better than when we are 3 deep, and Mario having more plays off can only be a good thing.
Intruder
08-09-2010, 08:03 PM
I read that Schobel has enrolled his kids in school in Columbus so... take that for what you will?
I read that Schobel has enrolled his kids in school in Columbus so... take that for what you will?
Unfortunately....not much. At the most the dude is going to play another year, and if it isn't here, then it would likely be somewhere that he isn't going to retire to. One way or another, he is "stablizing" his family for the long term.
I for one, hope he plays, and plays here for a year. Don't know how it would work, but it would sure be a nice problem to have.
kRocket
08-10-2010, 05:47 PM
Unfortunately....not much. At the most the dude is going to play another year, and if it isn't here, then it would likely be somewhere that he isn't going to retire to. One way or another, he is "stablizing" his family for the long term.
I for one, hope he plays, and plays here for a year. Don't know how it would work, but it would sure be a nice problem to have.
That could mean he is retiring since he has a ranch near there.
superbowlbound
08-10-2010, 07:07 PM
He went to high school in Columbus, and has lots of family there. I think he kinda wants to hang it up, but he's said he's a Texans fan. If he is, so are his kids, most likely. "Daddy, wouldn't it be cool if you were a Texan" can go an awful long way. Hell, no. 4 said he would've retired last year if his kids hadn't told him they wanted him to play, IIRC. I think the pats aren't in the running as much as the media thinks, since the 3-4 is a big reason why he wanted out of buffalo. That leaves us and the Seahawks. We're a better squad with better fans in a better stadium, AND we're close to home. Even taking off the battle red glasses, it just seems like too good a fit. Either he plays here, or he retires. I'd call it a coinflip at worst.
kRocket
08-13-2010, 01:56 PM
For the record, I think I can see a clear spot for him on this team this year and at least next. It is hard for anyone to turn down multiple million dollars for 4-5 months work. His presence would make a difference in our playoff chase. I am sure he is aware of that. He might have an enormous effect on Barwin's schooling also.
HPF Bob
08-15-2010, 08:28 PM
Kubiak, Texans talk to Schobel but nothing is imminent (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d819ad745/article/kubiak-texans-talked-to-schobel-but-nothing-is-imminent)
"Nothing has changed. We're still in the informational process," Kubiak told the Texans' official Web site. "I talked to him the other day.
"It's just a matter of every day, what does Aaron want to do? Where does he want to do it? We'll stay part of that process."
edo783
08-15-2010, 09:59 PM
Might just be a case of Aaron not wanting much to do with camp and we are just waiting on him.
From the chron:
Schobel to retire (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7155352.html)
Defensive end Aaron Schobel made it official today: He’s retiring rather than considering returning to play for the Texans.
Schobel walked away from an $8 million base salary with Buffalo this year but said he would like to play for the Texans. Now he’s elected to stay retired.
“Obviously, it would have been a great place to play, but at point of my career, I’m not going to sit here and tell you how I would have performed,” he said today. “I’m not saying I could or couldn’t have played at my best, but I’m just not 100 percent sure.
“I want to be done with it. I’m going to leave it as is. I wasn’t sure if I wanted to play, anyway. I’m going to be 33 in two weeks, and I’m leaving the game on my terms and nobody else’s. I’m just going to leave it alone and retire.”
Bummer.....especially with Bullmans status.
superbowlbound
08-16-2010, 10:41 PM
well, balls. Some good news there would've been nice.
kRocket
08-17-2010, 09:37 AM
This is my opinion, but if we were closer to a solid run for a ring, I bet he would have been more amenable to spending a year or two here. Money is obviously not a motivation, but a Super Bowl Ring may have been. A look at this weeks preseason game may have convinced him that with a bummed RB, no B/U QB, etc. we were not as close as he first thought.
nunusguy
08-17-2010, 10:03 AM
You know I wonder if this guy could go Brett Favre on us ? I mean if he really lives just 60-70 west of here on I-10, and as we get closer to the regular season kickoff, it's gonna start eating on him about being out there and playing ? That's been his life for most of his life (HS, college, NFL).
And god I don't want to jinx anybody, but if we were to have another injury (we've already lost Bullman) at DE, he might get the bug again to come play
if he felt really needed ? Then there's the money ?
Playing football to these guys is probably as important as sex to many of them. Why would you leave millions and millions of dollars on the table to do something you love to do, but know that very soon you can't do it any longer ? He's gotta be thinkin all about all of that no matter what he's said so far ?
painekiller
08-17-2010, 11:27 AM
Cause he said he did not love it last season, and that he went through the motions. He does not have the desire to go through the motions again
Fonz the Boss
08-18-2010, 01:36 AM
If hes gonna be going through the motions then I dont want him here.
superbowlbound
08-26-2010, 03:21 AM
If he was "going through the motions" last year, then we gotta do something to make him have fun, here. 10 sacks ain't bad for a guy who's not trying.
nunusguy
09-05-2010, 04:45 PM
Former TCU defensive end and the recently "retired" Aaron Schobel of the Buffalo Bills has not ruled out playing this season for the Houston Texans.
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These same people said the Texans have been rather persistent in their pursuit, and he has told them he would let them know on Monday if he will play again.
http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/colleges/2010/09/nfl-news-aaron-schobel-thinking-of-returning.html
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This story in the FTW Star-Telegram is dated 9/4. Hey, we still got a slot or 2 open on the roster from what I've hear ?
Who knows ?
painekiller
09-05-2010, 05:58 PM
Former TCU defensive end and the recently "retired" Aaron Schobel of the Buffalo Bills has not ruled out playing this season for the Houston Texans.
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These same people said the Texans have been rather persistent in their pursuit, and he has told them he would let them know on Monday if he will play again.
http://sportsblogs.star-telegram.com/colleges/2010/09/nfl-news-aaron-schobel-thinking-of-returning.html
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This story in the FTW Star-Telegram is dated 9/4. Hey, we still got a slot or 2 open on the roster from what I've hear ?
Who knows ?
The last two spots where filled by two roster fillers LB Danny Nixon from the Raiders, and Jamar Wall from Dallas. I liked Wall coming out of Tech as a late round or FA type player, he should be a solid ST. Don't know much about Nixon, but he should be a ST type.
Not that we would not make room for a player like Schobel.
dalemurphy
09-05-2010, 06:06 PM
The last two spots where filled by two roster fillers LB Danny Nixon from the Raiders, and Jamar Wall from Dallas. I liked Wall coming out of Tech as a late round or FA type player, he should be a solid ST. Don't know much about Nixon, but he should be a ST type.
Not that we would not make room for a player like Schobel.
Actually, Danny Clark was cut. So, there is still a spot available.
superbowlbound
09-08-2010, 05:55 PM
I think it's time to send a delegation. Pollard, Ryans, I don't care who else. Columbus isn't much of a drive. That dude can definitely help.
dalemurphy
09-08-2010, 07:35 PM
I think it's time to send a delegation. Pollard, Ryans, I don't care who else. Columbus isn't much of a drive. That dude can definitely help.
I don't think I want him at this point. It is too likely that he isn't passionate about playing anymore. I'm happy with DE, as long as Mario is healthy enough to play hard this season (I'm worried since he was only a partial participant due to his "groin" today at practice).
superbowlbound
09-08-2010, 09:44 PM
I don't think I want him at this point. It is too likely that he isn't passionate about playing anymore. I'm happy with DE, as long as Mario is healthy enough to play hard this season (I'm worried since he was only a partial participant due to his "groin" today at practice).
He's certainly not an every down player anymore, nor do I think he wants to be, but as depth (passing situations, spelling mario and antonio), I think he'd still get up to play. The culture on our defense has changed, and it's contagious. Get him in here, get us on a playoff run, and he'll be chompin at the bit to eat quarterbacks for breakfast. My guess is his kids want him to play here, and that can go a long way. It was his kids that brought no. 4 back last year, and that worked out pretty well. It was teammates this year, so we'll see how that goes. The way I see it, we have nothing to lose by bringing him in. He could take a solid unit and make it one of the best in the NFL. Why would you not want that? Not to mention saving wear on a constantly nicked up Mario, with less drop off than anyone currently on the roster.
painekiller
09-12-2010, 04:30 PM
I would be calling Schobel's agent right now and making a big offer. Barwin will be gone a while, that was nasty.
Warren
09-12-2010, 06:42 PM
On the radio postgame show, ND Kalu threw out the name of Derrick Burgess (http://www.nfl.com/players/derrickburgess/profile?id=BUR072504), who was recently cut by the Patriots, as a possible replacement for Barwin.
That made me think of Adalius Thomas (http://www.nfl.com/players/adaliusthomas/profile?id=THO013777), another ex-Pat who could fill that role, but last I heard his salary demands were scaring teams away after he was cut last spring.
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