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painekiller

05-19-2010, 01:23 AM

What are our needs?
FS - never been addressed
NT - also never addressed
OL- Time to start stock piling some talent.
WILL - Depth and future upgrade
CB - you never have enough CBs
QB- back up / future?
RB - You never have enough RBs

Walters has us taking

24 Houston Texans: Jared Crick, DT, Nebraska
The Texans had major problems at defensive tackle in 2009, but aside from drafting Earl Mitchell in the third round, they failed to address the position. They may fix things in the 2011 NFL Draft.

and

55 Houston Texans: Nate Potter, OT, Boise State
If Duane Brown doesn't improve his play this season, the Texans may search for some left tackle competition in the 2011 NFL Draft.

DraftSite.com has us taking
15 Houston Houston Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 5" 260
and
47 Houston Houston Ron Johnson WR USC

I am starting the watch list:
Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
Rahim Moore, FS, UCLA
Mike Pouncey, C/G, Florida
Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
Aaron Williams, CB, Texas
Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
DeAndre McDaniel, S, Clemson
Casey Matthews, LB ,Oregon
Jared Crick, DT, Nebraska
Brandon Harris, CB, Miami
Bruce Carter, OLB, North Carolina
Curtis Brown, CB, Texas
Stefen Wisniewski, C/G, Penn State
Will Hill, FS, Florida
Rashad Carmichael, CB, Virginia Tech
Blake Gideon, FS, Texas
Nate Potter, OT, Boise State
Kris O'Dowd, C, USC
Chris Culliver, FS/KR, South Carolina
Rodney Hudson, G, Florida State

painekiller

06-11-2010, 11:38 PM

Here is an early mock from DraftSite.com

15 Allen Bailey DT Miami 6' 4" 288
47 Kendric Burney CB UNC 5' 9" 180
79 Jerrod Johnson QB Texas A&M 6' 5" 243
111 Jonathan Freeny DE Rutgers 6' 3" 250
143 Leonard Hankerson WR Miami 6' 3" 215
175 Harvey Unga RB BYU 6' 0" 239 (is going to be in the Supplemental draft in July)
207 Jeff Wills OT Minnesota 6' 7" 355

Cherry picking cuz I just don't see most of these guys as the types Kubiak drafts.

15 Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320
47 Kristofer O'Dowd OC USC 6' 5" 300
79 Jerrod Johnson QB Texas A&M 6' 5" 243 (I'm a little biased here but I like this kid, and coming here would give him time to be groomed)
111 Butch Lewis OT USC 6' 5" 290
143 Jermale Hines S Ohio State 6' 2" 210
175 Thomas Weber K Arizona State 6' 1" 207
207 Ryan Donahue PT Iowa 6' 3" 180

I admit I do not know most of the guys yet, but you can see a pattern in my thinking, OL OL OL, then special teams. I think Brown is gone, and I think Rackers will be gone before this time next season.

painekiller

07-12-2010, 01:31 PM

A new mock is up from Draftsite.com

22 Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska 6' 1" 205
54 Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 6' 0" 190
86 Jabaal Sheard DE Pittsburgh 6' 4" 260
118 Markus White DE Florida State 6' 4" 260
150 Marcus Gilbert OT Florida 6' 5" 320
182 Kyle Adams TE Purdue 6' 4" 252
214 Aaron Corp QB USC 6' 3" 200

That is one of the worse mocks ever.

I currently think the team is going to need to draft OG/OC, S, OT, DE, MLB, WR, QB .

Outside the OG/OC and S all the guys are to upgrade the depth/rotational guys. This team is finally at a point where the 1st rounder should not be handed the spot to play.

I am assuming that the CB, RB and DT position are full for now with young guys that should mature.

Any thoughts from you guys?

painekiller

07-14-2010, 10:08 PM

Draftsite.com has a new mock up:

20 Michael Floyd* WR Notre Dame 6' 3" 220
52 Chykie Brown CB Texas 6' 0" 190
84 Mason Foster ILB Washington 6' 2" 244
116 Ted Laurent DT Mississippi 6' 0" 305
148 Kevin Riley QB Cal 6' 2" 221
180 Devin Newsome S San Jose State 5' 10" 185
212 Chris Carter OLB Fresno State 6' 2" 230

A much better mock based on position then the last one. WR in the 1st is unlikely unless something unforeseen happens, trying not to jinx anyone here, but I am getting real close. And you never have enough CBs.

1st round guys I am watching:
Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320
Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska 6' 1" 205
Von Miller OLB Texas A&M 6' 3" 240
Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College 6' 7" 295
Demarcus Love OT Arkansas 6' 5" 305
Dont'a Hightower* ILB Alabama 6' 4" 250
2nd rounders to watch:
Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
Kristofer O'Dowd OC USC 6' 5" 300
Stefen Wisniewski OC Penn State 6' 3" 297
Jerrod Johnson QB Texas A&M 6' 5" 243

cland

07-26-2010, 10:35 PM

Should a new CBA be agreed to--and I hate to say it out loud after all the resources this team has poured into the DL with middling results--but I think it will be time for Bob to pull out the purse for the highest rated FA DT available. 2011 should see a boon to the FA market after so many (~200) were signed as RFA's due to the rules for 2010.

If that's the case then I agree that the BAP from FS, C, G, DT (to groom) should be at the top of the Texans board.

Roy P

08-30-2010, 10:39 PM

I put the date in my title simply to allow the flexibility to change my mind. :)
These are the guys I'll be watching. I don't know what Butch Davis is doing, but he's getting some very talented recruits to play football at a 'basketball' school. Yes, I'll be watching UNC whenever I can this season. Here's my list of players at positions I would be interested in drafting....

OLB Travis Lewis Oklahoma 6'2" 232
OLB Bruce Carter North Carolina 6'3" 230
OLB Dontay Moch Nevada 6'1" 240
OLB Chris Walker Tennessee 6'1" 240
OG Justin Boren Ohio St 6'3" 320
OG Ben Ijalana Villanova 6'4" 320
OG John Moffitt Wisconsin 6'4" 325
S DeAndre McDaniel Clemson 6'0" 212
S Deunta Williams North Carolina 6'1" 210
S Rahim Moore UCLA 6'1" 195
DT Jerrell Powe Mississippi 6'2" 330
DT Jarvis Jenkins Clemson 6'3" 310
DE Greg Romeus Pittsburgh 6'5" 270
DE Robert Quinn North Carolina 6'5" 270
DE Da'Quan Bowers Clemson 6'4" 285
DE Ryan Kerrigan Purdue 6'4" 265
CB Ras-I-Dowling Virginia 6'2" 200
CB Kendric Burney North Carolina 5'9" 190
CB Brandon Harris Miami 5'11" 195
OT Clint Boling Georgia 6'5" 310
OT Jason Pinkston Pittsburgh 6'4" 310
OT Demarcus Love Arkansas 6'5" 315

Nconroe

08-31-2010, 10:16 AM

Not even one guy from any of the Texas schools? anyways, always lots of fun to see how the needs and draft rankings develop. thanks for the update.

painekiller

08-31-2010, 02:19 PM

Pre-Season Watch List

QB Jake Locker, 6-3, 225, Washington
QB Andrew Luck, 6-4, 235, Stanford
QB Ryan Mallett, 6-7, 250, Arkansas
QB Jerrod Johnson, 6-5, 245, Texas A&M
QB Case Keenum, 6-1, 210, Houston

RB Mark Ingram Alabama
RB John Clay, 6-2, 247, Wisconsin
RB Jacquizz Rodgers, 5-7, 195, Oregon State

WR Julio Jones, 6-4, 215, Alabama
WR A. J. Green, 6-3, 210, Georgia
WR Jon Baldwin, 6-5, 220, Pittsburgh
WR DeAndre Brown, 6-5, 230, Southern Mississippi (X)

OT Gabe Carimi, 6-6, 325, Wisconsin
OT Clint Boling, 6-5, 305, Georgia
OT Nate Solder, 6-8, 310, Colorado
OT Jason Pinkston, 6-4, 300, Pittsburgh
OT Derek Sherrod, 6-5, 305, Mississippi State
OT DeMarcus Love, 6-5, 315, Arkansas
OT Lee Ziemba, 6-7, 320, Auburn (XK)
OT Marcus Gilbert, 6-5, 325, Florida
OT Orlando Franklin, 6-6, 320, Miami
OT Chris Hairston, 6-6, 325, Clemson
OT *Josh Oglesby, 6-6, 330, Wisconsin (X)
OT Anthony Castonzo, 6-6, 295, Boston Colle
OT Nate Potter, OT, Boise State

OG Mike Pouncey, 6-4, 320, Florida (C)
OG Justin Boren, 6-3, 320, Ohio State
OG John Moffitt, 6-3, 325, Wisconsin
OG Rodney Hudson, 6-2, 290, Florida State
OG Alan Pelc, 6-5, 325, North Carolina
OG *James Wilson, 6-3, 320, Florida
OG Mike Berry, 6-3, 325, Auburn (XK)
OG Ben Lamaak, 6-4, 320, Iowa State
OG Dom Alford, 6-3, 335, Minnesota (OT)
OG Thomas Claiborne, 6-3, 325, Boston College
OG Steve Schilling, 6-4, 305, Michigan
OG David arkin, 6-5, 300, Missouri State

OC Kris O'Dowd, 6-4, 300, Southern California (X)
OC Stefen Wisniewski, 6-2, 305, Penn State (OG)
OC Alex Linnenkohl, 6-2, 305, Oregon State
OC Ben Lamaak, 6-3, 320, Iowa State
OC Zane Taylor, 6-2, 305, Utah
OC Colin Baxter, 6-3, 295, Arizona
OC Kevin Kowalski, 6-2, 300, Toledo
OC Dan Wenger, 6-3, 305, Notre Dame

DT Marvin Austin, 6-2, 305, North Carolina
DT *Jared Crick, 6-5, 285, Nebraska
DT *Marcus Fortson, 6-2 310, Miami
DT Stephen Paea, 6-1, 295, Oregon State
DT Jarvis Jenkins, 6-3, 305, Clemson
DT Adrian Taylor, 6-4, 295, Oklahoma

ILB Casey Matthews, 6-2, 235, Oregon
OLB Von Miller, 6-2, 240, Texas A&M
OLB Akeem Ayers, 6-4, 255, UCLA
OLB Bruce Carter, 6-3, 230, North Carolina

CB Patrick Peterson, 6-1, 210, LSU
CB Ras-I Dowling, 6-1, 200, Virginia
CB Prince Amukamara, 6-0, 200, Nebraska
CB DeAndre Morgan, 5-9, 170, North Carolina State
CB Kendric Burnley, 5-9, 185, North Carolina
CB Aaron Williams, 6-0, 190, Texas
CB Rashad Carmichael, 5-9, 195, Virginia Tech
CB Curtis Brown, 6-0, 185, Texas
CB Daven House, 5-11, 180, New Mexico State
CB Brandon Harris, 5-10, 195, Miami
CB Trevin Wade, 5-10, 185, Arizona
CB Jimmy Smith, 6-1, 210, Colorado
CB Chris L. Rucker, 6-1, 195, Michgan State

FS Rahim Moore, 6-0, 195, UCLA
FS Deunta Williams, 6-1, 210, North Carolina
FS Chris Culliver, 6-0, 190, South Carolina
FS Jermale Hines, 6-1, 215, Ohio State
FS Will Hill, 6-1, 205, Florida
FS Jeron Johnson, 5-10, 195, Boise State
FS Jaiqwaun Jarrett, 6-1, 195, Temple
FS Robert Sands, 6-4, 220, West Virginia

SS DeAndre McDaniel, 6-0, 210, Clemson
SS Mark Barron, 6-1, 210, Alabama
SS Tyler Sash, 6-0, 210, Iowa

P Drew Butler, 6-2, 205, Georgia

painekiller

08-31-2010, 02:32 PM

Draftsite.com has a new one. They have us missing the playoffs

15 Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska 6' 1" 205
47 Orlando Franklin OG Miami 6' 7" 318
79 Sam Acho DE Texas 6' 3" 258
111 James Cleveland WR Houston 6' 1" 205
143 Spencer Paysinger ILB Oregon 6' 3" 266
175 Chris Culliver S South Carolina 6' 0" 190
206 Cameron Higgins QB Weber State 6' 2" 195

MY cherry pick, I know it's early but the 1st pick is a no brainer
15 Mark Ingram* RB Alabama 5' 10" 215
47 Kristofer O'Dowd OC USC 6' 5" 300
79 Jerrod Johnson QB Texas A&M 6' 5" 243
111 Kyle Hix OT Texas 6' 7" 320

Roy P

09-01-2010, 04:06 PM

143 Spencer Paysinger ILB Oregon 6' 3" 266

I'm wondering where we'd play a 266lbs LB. Would we move Cushing to the WILL? That's the interesting pick to me that I don't see the Texans ever making.

painekiller

09-01-2010, 06:57 PM

I'm wondering where we'd play a 266lbs LB. Would we move Cushing to the WILL? That's the interesting pick to me that I don't see the Texans ever making.

When Bush was in Arizona, they had Pace who weighed in at 270. In 2007 Pace was an OLB and had a 107 tackles. Dansby was listed as 255, He also had over 100 tackles in 2007. So big LBs seem to be in Bush's background.

Johnny Holland on the other hand has a history of small quick LBs.

BTW IMO draftsite never has our picks right. They do not seem to care about the teams preferences.

Roy P

09-02-2010, 10:04 AM

When Bush was in Arizona, they had Pace who weighed in at 270. In 2007 Pace was an OLB and had a 107 tackles. Dansby was listed as 255, He also had over 100 tackles in 2007. So big LBs seem to be in Bush's background.

With that in mind, I'd be curious about moving Connor Barwin to the SLB (6'4" 257lbs) compared to Calvin Pace (6'4" 265lbs) and sliding Cushing to WLB (6'3" 259) compared to Dansby (6'4" 250lbs).

Just a thought.

painekiller

09-02-2010, 11:01 AM

With that in mind, I'd be curious about moving Connor Barwin to the SLB (6'4" 257lbs) compared to Calvin Pace (6'4" 265lbs) and sliding Cushing to WLB (6'3" 259) compared to Dansby (6'4" 250lbs).

Just a thought.

I have always thought Connor Barwin should be a SAM. And that would mean moving Cushing to WILL, oh my. That should make us better against the run but hurt us in the passing game.

What If we went 3-4, then we could have Barwin, Cushing, Ryans and Diles all on the field at one time.

Roy P

09-02-2010, 12:32 PM

I have always thought Connor Barwin should be a SAM. And that would mean moving Cushing to WILL, oh my. That should make us better against the run but hurt us in the passing game.

What If we went 3-4, then we could have Barwin, Cushing, Ryans and Diles all on the field at one time.

It might hurt having Barwin on the field in the passing game on 1st or 2nd down, unless he's blitzing. :) On 3rd down, I'd put his hand on the ground and play him like a DE, just like now in our Nickle packages.

For what it's worth, we aren't built for a 3-4 because we don't have a NT. Okam doesn't have what it takes mentally to play the 2-Gap NT. Now, if we had drafted B.J. Raji or Dan Williams or somebody of that ilk, then what you are suggesting might be easier to implement. Not really sure there is a NT going to be available in the upcoming draft (Phil Taylor - Baylor??). The following draft either for that matter (D'Angelo McCray - Eastern Illinois??). So, do you feel like the team is better by removing Okoye and inserting Diles leaving Cody to play NT?

Keith

09-02-2010, 09:41 PM

And that would mean moving Cushing to WILL, oh my. That should make us better against the run but hurt us in the passing game.

Care to check who led the team in interceptions as a rookie in 2009?

:p

I get what you're sayin', but I'm just sayin'.

painekiller

09-03-2010, 01:38 AM

Care to check who led the team in interceptions as a rookie in 2009?

:p

I get what you're sayin', but I'm just sayin'.

And I get what you are saying. Cushing is our best pass cover LB, he needs to be in our nickle, I am almost thinking that our nickle should be Cushing and Diles over Ryans, they are both better in pass coverage than Ryans.

As to my oh my comment, you don't see many 260 lb WILLs in the NFL. That would be some brute force coming off the free side.

Roy P

09-03-2010, 08:52 PM

DE Greg Romeus Pittsburgh 6'5" 270
CB Patrick Peterson* LSU 6'1" 211
DE Robert Quinn* North Carolina 6'5" 270
OLB Travis Lewis* Oklahoma 6'2" 232
OLB Bruce Carter North Carolina 6'3" 230
DE Da'Quan Bowers* Clemson 6'4" 285
OT Demarcus Love Arkansas 6'5" 315
S Rahim Moore* UCLA 6'1" 195
DT Jarvis Jenkins Clemson 6'3" 310
OT Jason Pinkston Pittsburgh 6'4" 310
S DeAndre McDaniel Clemson 6'0" 212
DT Jerrell Powe Mississippi 6'2" 330
CB Davon House New Mexico St 6'0" 190
OLB Greg Jones Michigan St 6'1" 235
CB Ras-I-Dowling Virginia 6'2" 200
OLB Dontay Moch Nevada 6'1" 240
CB Brandon Harris* Miami 5'11" 195
OG John Moffitt Wisconsin 6'4" 325
OG Ben Ijalana Villanova 6'4" 320
S Deunta Williams North Carolina 6'1" 210
DE Ryan Kerrigan Purdue 6'4" 265
CB Kendric Burney North Carolina 5'9" 190
CB Rashad Carmichael Va Tech 5'10" 182
WR Ronald Johnson USC 5'11" 190
OG Justin Boren Ohio St 6'3" 320
OT Clint Boling Georgia 6'5" 310
WR Titus Young Boise State 6'0" 170
OLB Chris Walker Tennessee 6'1" 240
WR Matt Szczur Villanova 5'11" 200
TE Virgil Green Nevada 6'4" 242

There are some Juniors on my watch list who I think could come out in this draft. If I were to handicap a 'mock' draft from this list it would look something like this:

DE Greg Romeus
DT Jarvis Jenkins
OG John Moffitt
CB Rashad Carmichael
OLB Chris Walker
WR Matt Szczur
TE Virgil Green

Blitzwood

09-09-2010, 11:28 PM

1. Jared Crick, DT, Nebraska 6-6 295 ***or*** Bruce Carter, OLB, N. Carolina, 6-3 235
2. Curtis Brown, CB, Texas 6-0 190
3. Broderick Green, RB/FB, Arkansas 6-2 250
4. Clint Boling, OT, Georgia 6-5 315
5. Mark LeGree, FS, App. St., 6-0 200

painekiller

09-11-2010, 03:18 AM

Season Watch List

QB Jake Locker, 6-3, 225, Washington
QB Andrew Luck, 6-4, 235, Stanford
QB Ryan Mallett, 6-7, 250, Arkansas
QB Jerrod Johnson, 6-5, 245, Texas A&M *** I like this kid, would be a nice project
QB Case Keenum, 6-1, 210, Houston *** I like this kid, would be a nice project

RB Mark Ingram Alabama
RB John Clay, 6-2, 247, Wisconsin
RB Jacquizz Rodgers, 5-7, 195, Oregon State

WR Julio Jones, 6-4, 215, Alabama
WR A. J. Green, 6-3, 210, Georgia
WR Jon Baldwin, 6-5, 220, Pittsburgh
WR DeAndre Brown, 6-5, 230, Southern Mississippi (X)

OT Gabe Carimi, 6-6, 325, Wisconsin
OT Clint Boling, 6-5, 305, Georgia
OT Nate Solder, 6-8, 310, Colorado
OT Jason Pinkston, 6-4, 300, Pittsburgh
OT Derek Sherrod, 6-5, 305, Mississippi State
OT DeMarcus Love, 6-5, 315, Arkansas
OT Lee Ziemba, 6-7, 320, Auburn (XK)
OT Marcus Gilbert, 6-5, 325, Florida
OT Orlando Franklin, 6-6, 320, Miami
OT Chris Hairston, 6-6, 325, Clemson
OT *Josh Oglesby, 6-6, 330, Wisconsin (X)
OT Anthony Castonzo, 6-6, 295, Boston Colle
OT Nate Potter, OT, Boise State

OG Mike Pouncey, 6-4, 320, Florida (C)
OG Justin Boren, 6-3, 320, Ohio State
OG John Moffitt, 6-3, 325, Wisconsin
OG Rodney Hudson, 6-2, 290, Florida State
OG Alan Pelc, 6-5, 325, North Carolina
OG *James Wilson, 6-3, 320, Florida
OG Mike Berry, 6-3, 325, Auburn (XK)
OG Ben Lamaak, 6-4, 320, Iowa State
OG Dom Alford, 6-3, 335, Minnesota (OT)
OG Thomas Claiborne, 6-3, 325, Boston College
OG Steve Schilling, 6-4, 305, Michigan
OG David arkin, 6-5, 300, Missouri State

OC Kris O'Dowd, 6-4, 300, Southern California (X)
OC Stefen Wisniewski, 6-2, 305, Penn State (OG)
OC Alex Linnenkohl, 6-2, 305, Oregon State
OC Ben Lamaak, 6-3, 320, Iowa State
OC Zane Taylor, 6-2, 305, Utah
OC Colin Baxter, 6-3, 295, Arizona
OC Kevin Kowalski, 6-2, 300, Toledo
OC Dan Wenger, 6-3, 305, Notre Dame

DT Marvin Austin, 6-2, 305, North Carolina
DT *Jared Crick, 6-5, 285, Nebraska
DT *Marcus Fortson, 6-2 310, Miami
DT Stephen Paea, 6-1, 295, Oregon State
DT Jarvis Jenkins, 6-3, 305, Clemson
DT Adrian Taylor, 6-4, 295, Oklahoma

ILB Casey Matthews, 6-2, 235, Oregon
OLB Von Miller, 6-2, 240, Texas A&M
OLB Akeem Ayers, 6-4, 255, UCLA
OLB Bruce Carter, 6-3, 230, North Carolina

CB Patrick Peterson, 6-1, 210, LSU
CB Ras-I Dowling, 6-1, 200, Virginia
CB Prince Amukamara, 6-0, 200, Nebraska
CB DeAndre Morgan, 5-9, 170, North Carolina State
CB Kendric Burnley, 5-9, 185, North Carolina
CB Aaron Williams, 6-0, 190, Texas
CB Rashad Carmichael, 5-9, 195, Virginia Tech
CB Curtis Brown, 6-0, 185, Texas
CB Daven House, 5-11, 180, New Mexico State
CB Brandon Harris, 5-10, 195, Miami
CB Trevin Wade, 5-10, 185, Arizona
CB Jimmy Smith, 6-1, 210, Colorado
CB Chris L. Rucker, 6-1, 195, Michgan State

FS Rahim Moore, 6-0, 195, UCLA
FS Deunta Williams, 6-1, 210, North Carolina
FS Chris Culliver, 6-0, 190, South Carolina
FS Jermale Hines, 6-1, 215, Ohio State
FS Will Hill, 6-1, 205, Florida
FS Jeron Johnson, 5-10, 195, Boise State
FS Jaiqwaun Jarrett, 6-1, 195, Temple
FS Robert Sands, 6-4, 220, West Virginia

SS DeAndre McDaniel, 6-0, 210, Clemson
SS Mark Barron, 6-1, 210, Alabama
SS Tyler Sash, 6-0, 210, Iowa

P Drew Butler, 6-2, 205, Georgia

Roy P

09-11-2010, 06:15 PM

If Matt Leinart is renting, then we might want a new QB to grooom. Greg McElroy from Alabama is playing tonight against Penn St. Watch and learn. He's 31-0 since high school. Smart guy.

painekiller

09-12-2010, 01:53 AM

If Matt Leinart is renting, then we might want a new QB to grooom. Greg McElroy from Alabama is playing tonight against Penn St. Watch and learn. He's 31-0 since high school. Smart guy.

You beat me to it, my update is going to have him at top of my developmental type QB.

Luck is my top QB, he is as NFL ready as any QB I've seen coming out of college. And he still has another year of eligibility after this year.

Roy P

09-12-2010, 11:08 AM

Luck is my top QB, he is as NFL ready as any QB I've seen coming out of college. And he still has another year of eligibility after this year.

I watched Stanford play UCLA last night. Luck definitely looks like the real deal. He as the measurables and he also has 'it' when it comes to commanding the huddle. Yet, I'd still place that Locker kid from Washington at the top of the list.

nunusguy

09-16-2010, 12:47 PM

You beat me to it, my update is going to have him at top of my developmental type QB.

Luck is my top QB, he is as NFL ready as any QB I've seen coming out of college. And he still has another year of eligibility after this year.
PK I'm thinking that Luck is just a soph redshirt this year, so he's got 2 more year of eligibility after 2010. Since he's a junior in terms of his education, he'll probably gradute in 2012 which means he may enter the 2012 Draft (and leave a year of eligilbity on the table, but of course I'm only speculating).
BTW, big game for QB Locker - those rough, tuff Cornhuskers are visiting Seattle Saturday and it's on national TV (2:30 PM CST, ABC). Should be fun.

Roy P

09-16-2010, 11:03 PM

Season Watch List

WR Julio Jones, 6-4, 215, Alabama
WR A. J. Green, 6-3, 210, Georgia
WR Jon Baldwin, 6-5, 220, Pittsburgh
WR DeAndre Brown, 6-5, 230, Southern Mississippi (X)

ILB Casey Matthews, 6-2, 235, Oregon
OLB Von Miller, 6-2, 240, Texas A&M
OLB Akeem Ayers, 6-4, 255, UCLA
OLB Bruce Carter, 6-3, 230, North Carolina

Watched NC State vs. Cinci tonight and was impressed with a big WR for the Wolf Pack.

WR Jarvis Williams NC State 6'4" 218

I'm also looking at the LBs this season who have size & speed. Everyone knows the 'usual suspects':
OLB Travis Lewis* Oklahoma 6'2" 232
OLB Bruce Carter North Carolina 6'3" 230
OLB Greg Jones Michigan St 6'1" 235
OLB Dontay Moch Nevada 6'1" 240
OLB Von Miller Texas A&M 6'2" 240
OLB Quan Sturdivant North Carolina 6'2" 235

So, I thought I'd keep an eye on guys under the radar....
OLB Kelvin Sheppard LSU 6'2" 245
OLB Kendall Smith Florida St. 6'0" 235
OLB Stephen Franklin S. Illinois 6'0" 235
OLB Mario Addison Troy 6'2" 238
OLB Nate Williams N'Western 6'2" 235
OLB Kylan Robinson Miami 6'1" 235
OLB Jared Detrick Virginia 6'1" 235
OLB Sean Fobbs Akron 6'1" 240
OLB Dean DeLeone Arizona St. 6'2" 250
OLB Derrick Odom Memphis 6'3" 235
OLB Jeff Tarpinian Iowa 6'3" 235

nunusguy

09-22-2010, 10:46 AM

BTW, big game for QB Locker - those rough, tuff Cornhuskers are visiting Seattle Saturday and it's on national TV (2:30 PM CST, ABC). Should be fun.

WOW ! Did the young Mr Locker flunk that test or what ? That was embarrassing. I'd guess that pretty much ends any talk of him being the top pick in the 2011 Draft. Is he still even a first rounder ?
And BTW how bad will the Huskers embarrass UT in Lincoln later this fall ?
The Huskers were very impressive.

Joe Joe

09-22-2010, 12:51 PM

And BTW how bad will the Huskers embarrass UT in Lincoln later this fall ?

Well, It is about time Nebraska beat UT in Lincoln considering all the Nebraska doesn't lose in Lincoln smack talk when UT joined the Big 12. It has been 77 years since Nebraska protected their house from the Horns. I still will go with my Horns being able to win this game with their defense.

Roy P

09-23-2010, 03:27 PM

WOW ! Did the young Mr Locker flunk that test or what ? That was embarrassing. I'd guess that pretty much ends any talk of him being the top pick in the 2011 Draft.

Yes, he did flunk that test. It became apparent that he's more of a Vince Young/Tim Tebow type QB who is better suited to run the ball. Wait a minute, both of those guys were drafted in the first round, weren't they?

Seriously, I believe that Ryan Mallett made himself the top QB prospect in this draft last weekend. Now all he has to do is keep it up for the rest of the season.

painekiller

09-28-2010, 03:57 PM

Yes, he did flunk that test. It became apparent that he's more of a Vince Young/Tim Tebow type QB who is better suited to run the ball. Wait a minute, both of those guys were drafted in the first round, weren't they?

Seriously, I believe that Ryan Mallett made himself the top QB prospect in this draft last weekend. Now all he has to do is keep it up for the rest of the season.

And Mallett appears to me to be 3rd round type. He has horrible footwork and he is slow on his decision, add the long frame and I do not have any desire to track Mallett as the top QB, Luck is my #1 QB period.

Blitzwood

09-28-2010, 06:34 PM

Since we're on the subject of QB's, I might get beat up on this board for saying this but I've been very impressed with Kellen Moore JR. from Boise St. The guy has a pistol release, makes fast decisions, and is impressing with his accuracy, not to mention knows how to avoid getting sacked. The biggest(and only) knock from what I've seen is his height being in the range of 6-0 to 6-1. But that sure didn't deter Drew Brees last year. He'd be a great 3rd rounder if he came out this year.

Joe Joe

10-05-2010, 05:49 PM

Is it too early to start looking at TEs? I wish I was joking. OD is not back. Dressen is okay, but isn't nearly the weapon OD was. Casey is small. Graham can't get off the milk carton. Anthony Hill is Joppru 2.0.

I expect TE to be a money position when AJ demands respect and LBs and safeties should start biting on play fakes to Foster.

Joe Joe

10-05-2010, 10:58 PM

Nconroe

10-06-2010, 01:49 AM

I think I disagree on need to draft more TE's soon, but I'd like to see a few more plays to TE as well.

I think Kubiak more or less follows seniority on the team first, so until Dreesen is hurt or fails to perform, we won't see much of Casey or Graham.

We are 3-1 so not too frstrated right now. Some big passes to TE have worked.

Depends on play calling I think, not skill of TE's.

Casey and Graham both looked real good in preseason.

till we see some 3 and 4 TE sets, likely will continue as is.

Sure, OD, will be coming back a little more slowly than we expected as well.

I guess draft best player available and hopefully not a TE for a couple years is my thinking for the moment.

Right now, I'd probably go OL and then all defense, perhaps a great punter or kicker in late rounds.

NBT

10-06-2010, 11:45 AM

O.D. just needs to get his playing legs and he will be fine.

painekiller

10-06-2010, 02:08 PM

O.D. just needs to get his playing legs and he will be fine.

I think he has lost a step, and that he will be allowed to go as a FA after the season. We have enough depth to offset his leaving after the season.

NBT

10-07-2010, 05:28 PM

Well, as usual we agree to dissagree. Daniels needs time to regain his timing and tempo with Matt that they had last year before he was hurt. Dreeson will be the one gone in my estimation, if anyone does.

painekiller

10-09-2010, 10:53 AM

I think this has been up for a while, but I have not posted it here.

20 Julio Jones* WR Alabama 6' 4" 210
52 Jeron Johnson S Boise State 5' 11" 194
84 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
116 Greg Romeus DE Pittsburgh 6' 6" 270
148 Mario Harvey ILB Marshall 6' 0" 245
180 Jonathan Nelson CB Oklahoma 5' 11" 180
211 Dan Dierking FB Purdue 5' 10" 186

Not sure I agree with a WR in the 1st, but if they let Jacoby leave via FA, then this is possible.

Grabbing two young safeties is a possibility, but it means Wilson and Barber are gone.

Then adding another young late round CB seems unlikely. And what is up with a 186 lbs FB?

My Cherry Pick with us keeping Jones:

20 traded to NE for two 2nd round picks

38 Curtis Brown CB Texas 6' 1" 185
52 Ras-I Dowling CB/S Virginia 6' 2" 200
54 Sam Acho DE Texas 6' 3" 258
84 Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320
116 Colin McCarthy OLB Miami 6' 3" 240
148 Roy Helu Jr. RB Nebraska 6' 0" 215
180 Greg McElroy QB Alabama 6' 3" 220
211 Kai Forbath, PK, UCLA 6'0" 191

Three guys in the 2nd round, Brown is the new nickle, Dowling is moved to Safety, Acho is Barwin insurance. Pouncey is proving he is not an OC and he is a solid value at 84. Another young LB for ST and backup duty, a RB because you never have to many, a QB that just wins ever where he goes, and lastly our 1st drafted kicker.

painekiller

10-12-2010, 03:47 PM

20 DeAndre McDaniel S Clemson 6' 1" 190
52 Kristofer O'Dowd OC USC 6' 5" 300
84 Titus Young WR Boise State 5' 11" 170
116 Johnny Patrick CB Louisville 5' 11" 190
148 Brandon Bair DT Oregon 6' 7" 266
180 Josh Bynes ILB Auburn 6' 2" 239
211 D.J. Young OT Michigan State 6' 5" 310

Interesting mock.

My cherry pick

20 Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State 6' 6" 305
52 Kristofer O'Dowd OC USC 6' 5" 300
84 Charles Brown CB UNC 5' 10" 205
116 Jermale Hines S Ohio State 6' 2" 210
148 Derrick Locke RB Kentucky 5' 9" 190
180 Scott Tolzien QB Wisconsin 6' 3" 205
211 Kai Forbath, Kicker UCLA 6-0, 200

Sherrod is an elite OT, Time to go with a bigger OL, LT Sherrod, LG Caldwell, OC ODowd, RG Winston, RT Brown.

chuck

10-12-2010, 04:06 PM

Sherrod is an elite OT, Time to go with a bigger OL, LT Sherrod, LG Caldwell, OC ODowd, RG Winston, RT Brown.

That's interesting, defensible and maybe even a great idea. No fing way the team does anything like it, though.

painekiller

10-12-2010, 09:10 PM

That's interesting, defensible and maybe even a great idea. No fing way the team does anything like it, though.

If after the season they decide to hire a new HC then this is a possibility.

chuck

10-13-2010, 11:31 AM

If after the season they decide to hire a new HC then this is a possibility.

Quite true. I guess I'm stuck in the mindset that even if the team misses the playoffs again the same staff will be back for more next year or whenever they resume play.

painekiller

10-13-2010, 12:41 PM

Quite true. I guess I'm stuck in the mindset that even if the team misses the playoffs again the same staff will be back for more next year or whenever they resume play.

I'm with you here, I am thinking it's 75/25 that Kubiak is back/gone after the season.

Blitzwood

10-14-2010, 10:00 PM

Trade our 1st for Buffalo's 33rd & 65th pick.

33. Marcus Cannon OG 6-6 345 TCU
52. Sam Acho DE 6-3 260 Texas
65. Kenrick Ellis DT 6-5 340 Hampton
84. Titus Young WR 5-11 180 Boise St
116. Johnny Patrick CB 6-0 190 Louisville
148. Damien Berry RB 6-0 210 Miami
180. Pierre Allen DE 6-5 265 Nebraska
211. Da'Norris Searcy S 6-0 210 UNC

This draft addresses our defensive woes by giving our secondary more quality depth and our D line some much needed youth, athleticism and size. It also gives us a quality OG with more size than we're accustom to and provides depth at WR (incase JJ leaves) and RB (insurance for Ben Tate).

NBT

10-18-2010, 12:17 PM

If we end up in the playoffs (not likely now with the worst D in the league, and so many injuries to key players), then for the first time in this franchises history, I would be for trading up to get either 1) that dominant DT we have been looking for forever, or 2) another game changer on offense like AJ or similar.

painekiller

10-20-2010, 03:41 PM

new one from them

21 Michael Floyd* WR Notre Dame 6' 3" 220
53 Chris Culliver S South Carolina 6' 0" 190
85 Josh Bynes ILB Auburn 6' 2" 239
117 Chykie Brown CB Texas 6' 0" 190
149 Justin Boren OG Ohio State 6' 3" 315
181 Steven Friday DE Virginia Tech 6' 4" 235
212 Ben Chappell QB Indiana 6' 3" 235

Cherry Pick

21 Akeem Ayers* OLB UCLA 6' 4" 254
53 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
85 Marcus Gilchrist S Clemson 5' 11" 190
117 Colin McCarthy OLB Miami 6' 3" 240
149 Cliff Matthews DE South Carolina 6' 4" 260
181 Kai Forbath, K UCLA 6-0, 200
212 Ben Chappell QB Indiana 6' 3" 235

Notice a trend?

Nconroe

10-21-2010, 09:45 PM

Hmm, does seem it is defense that needs the help right now anyways.

I hope they can find the dominant DT somehow who can push middle of O-line back so opposing QB can't step up in pocket, then QB has to go out where our DE's will get him.

NBT

10-22-2010, 03:22 PM

It does seem that a dominant DT would upset the pocket and force the QB to flee or get sacked. Oh boy how good that would be!

Joe Joe

10-25-2010, 08:33 AM

I'm hoping for another defensive end or the dramatic recovery of Barwin. Ugh! Mario can swing to the strong side if need be so the Texans can bring in a speed rusher.

NBT

10-26-2010, 10:47 AM

DT Rick Fairly of Auburn looked pretty good in their game against LSU.

As for going to a 3-4, I echo that we don't have a verifiable NT, and besides they just cut DT Frank Okam, the only NT type we had on the roster.

All the talk about moving LBs around has also been answered by moving Cushing to Mike, leaving Diles at Will, and making Bentley the Sam. Not bad moves I guess.

Blitzwood

10-26-2010, 07:52 PM

DT Rick Fairly of Auburn looked pretty good in their game against LSU.

HELL YES!! Nick Fairley is a beast. I would use my 1st rounder on him and hope S. Acho is there for our 2nd rounder, or take a true NT in Kendrick Ellis, 6-5 340.:eek:

painekiller

10-27-2010, 12:39 PM

20 Quinton Carter S Oklahoma 6' 1" 195
52 Christian Ballard DT Iowa 6' 5" 297
84 Leonard Hankerson WR Miami 6' 3" 215
116 Jonathan Cornell ILB Mississippi 6' 1" 235
148 Markus White DE Florida State 6' 4" 260
180 Anthony Gaitor CB Florida International 5' 10" 178
211 Matt Bosher K Miami 6' 0" 205

I read in a thread over on TT.com that you can a do a mock two ways, how you think the texans draft, and how you would draft.

How I see the Texans drafting
20 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State 6' 1" 285
52 Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia 6' 2" 200
84 Colin McCarthy OLB Miami 6' 3" 240
116 Brett Brackett TE Penn State 6' 6" 232
148 Eric Peitz TE Colorado State 6' 5" 251
180 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
211 Ryan Donahue PT Iowa 6' 3" 180

How I would like to see them draft.

28 Akeem Ayers* OLB UCLA 6' 4" 254
52 Christian Ballard DT Iowa 6' 5" 297
60 Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia 6' 2" 200
84 Derrell Johnson-Koulianos WR Iowa 6' 1" 200
116 Brett Greenwood S Iowa 6' 0" 200
148 Roy Helu Jr. RB Nebraska 6' 0" 215
180 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 6' 4" 355
211 Kai Forbath, K UCLA 6' 0" 200

painekiller

10-30-2010, 01:27 PM

24 Stefen Wisniewski Penn State OG 6'3" 298
56 Marvin Austin North Carolina DT43 6'3" 305

IMO to early for Wisniewski, maybe the Senior Bowl will change my mind on that.

My cherry picks

We get a new defensive Coordinator and go with a 3-4

24 Jerrell Powe Mississippi DT34 6'2" 328
56 Jarvis Jenkins Clemson DE34 6'4" 310

They only had 2 rounds done.

Using their Big Board

88 Sam Acho Texas 6'3" 260 OLB34
120 John Moffitt Wisconsin 6'5" 323 OG
152 Jamie Harper Clemson 5'11" 230 RBF
184 Ryan Donohue Iowa 6'3" 190 P
216 Steven Friday Virginia Tech 6'4" 250 OLB34

Go to a 3-4 defense

Mario FA NT Smith
Mitchell Powe Jenkins

Lbs Barwin/Acho Diles Ryans Cushing

chuck

10-31-2010, 03:35 PM

Go to a 3-4 defense

The Texans will do this right after they take your suggestion and overhaul the OL.

Funny thing is, I just watched Green Bay's 3-4 completely bitch slap the Jets, shutting them out at home. How the hell were the Jets 5-1?

nunusguy

11-01-2010, 07:21 AM

SEATTLE Â– Andrew Luck's numbers were far from overwhelming, but that's not what stood out to Jim Harbaugh.
**
"To be mentally understanding the game the way he does is just remarkable," Harbaugh said.
Read more: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/10/30/1402953/luck-and-no-13-stanford-dominate.html#ixzz1423SMKlc
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Apparently Andrew Luck had another impressive performance over the weekend as he outplayed Wasington QB Jake Locker and Luck has no bigger fan than his coach at Stanford, which leads me to think that Harbaugh has a plan: get Luck to declare for the NFL Draft and come out early next year and then use the #1 pick on his Stanford QB he's going to have as the new HC of the Buffalo Bills. Stranger things have happened ?

painekiller

11-03-2010, 01:34 PM

19 Drake Nevis DT LSU 6' 1" 300
51 Jeron Johnson S Boise State 5' 11" 194
83 Austin Pettis WR Boise State 6' 3" 200
115 Ricky Henry OG Nebraska 6' 4" 305
147 Johnny Patrick CB Louisville 5' 11" 190
179 Brian Rolle ILB Ohio State 5' 11" 220
209 Matt Bosher K Miami 6' 0" 205

what I would do

19 Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College 6' 7" 295
51 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
83 Eric Hagg S Nebraska 6' 2" 205
115 Chykie Brown CB Texas 6' 0" 190
147 Pernell McPhee DE Mississippi State 6' 4" 275
179 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 6' 4" 355
209 Kai Forbath, K UCLA 6' 0" 200

Castonzo becomes one of our top 3 OTs and one of those guys will need to move to OG. Who to be determined by play.
Williams and Hagg both have size can be backups while they learn.
Brown is a decent pickup in the 4th. Forbath is one of the top kicking prospects.

painekiller

11-10-2010, 12:16 PM

17 Allen Bailey DT Miami 6' 4" 288
49 Jeron Johnson S Boise State 5' 11" 194
81 Ronald Johnson WR USC 6' 0" 190
113 Ryan Pugh OC Auburn 6' 1" 295
145 Eddie Jones DE Texas 6' 3" 260
177 Ramon Broadway CB Arkansas 5' 9" 191
208 Mario Harvey ILB Marshall 6' 0" 245

painekiller

11-15-2010, 02:09 PM

Currently based on the current standings, I have the Texans picking #14, and judging from the play I have been seeing that is close to where I think they pick. I am thinking 12th, but could be between 10th and 20th.

So based on the 14th pick, I see a coaching change and a move back to the 3-4. Say goodbye to Okoye, Daniel, Jones, and Turk.

I want us to sign two of the following FA NTs: Paul Soliai, Dolphins, Shaun Rogers, Browns, Alan Branch, Cards, Chris Hoke, Steelers.

The draft is as follows:

12 Brandon Harris CB Miami 5'11 195
44 Sione Fua NT Stanford 6'2" 307
76 Jeron Johnson S Boise State 5' 11" 194
108 Steven Friday OLB Virginia Tech 6'4" 254 .
140 Wayne Daniels OLB TCU 6' 2" 250
172 Kai Forbath K UCLA 6'0" 192
204 Derek Epperson P Baylor 6'3" 235

My 3-4 looks like this;
LDE - Williams,
NT - Soliai,Hoke,Fua
RDE - Smith, Mitchell
LOLB- Cushing, Friday
LILB - Diles
RILB - Ryans, Sharpton
ROLB - Barwin, Daniels
CB - Harris, Jackson, McManis
S - Quinn, Nolan, Pollard, Johnson

Fill the holes with vets that fit the new coaches schemes.

painekiller

11-16-2010, 01:53 PM

14 Rahim Moore* S UCLA 6' 1" 195
46 Christian Ballard DT Iowa 6' 5" 297
78 Joe Lefeged CB Rutgers 6' 1" 205
110 Colin McCarthy OLB Miami 6' 3" 240
142 Shaky Smithson WR Utah 5' 11" 202
174 Byron Isom OG Auburn 6' 3" 302
206 Dan Bailey K Oklahoma State 6' 0" 197

Not a bad start.

What do I see if Kubiak-Smith are in charge of the draft?

14 Akeem Ayers* OLB UCLA 6' 4" 254
46 Sam Acho DE Texas 6' 3" 258
78 Roy Helu Jr. RB Nebraska 6' 0" 215
110 Chykie Brown CB Texas 6' 0" 190
142 Ollie Ogbu DT Penn State 6' 1" 285
174 Tejay Johnson S TCU 6' 1" 210
206 Virgil Greene TE Nevada 6' 4" 242

They ignore the areas of need to go with guys to strengthen the pass rush early, then they draft guys who do not have ball skills (Brown ) or do not have a chance of getting on the field (Helu)(I like Helu but we do not appear to need a RB), and of course a great TE to not be activated is a need for 5 years from now.

What I hope a new coaching staff would do
14 Brandon Harris*, CB, Miami 5-11 195
46 Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
78 Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple 6' 2" 195
110 Sione Fua DT Stanford 6' 2" 307
142 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297
174 Kai Forbath, K, UCLA 6-0 182
206 Ryan Donahue PT Iowa 6' 3" 180

painekiller

11-23-2010, 02:42 AM

My current cherry pick 11/23/10

13 Brandon Harris*, CB, Miami 5-11 195.
45 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
77 Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia 6' 2" 200
109 Mark LeGree S Appalachian State 6' 0" 200
141 Sione Fua DT Stanford 6' 2" 307
173 Eddie Jones DE Texas 6' 3" 260
205 Derek Epperson P Baylor 6-3 235.

Everybody has to earn their spot, no handouts due to draft status.

painekiller

11-24-2010, 02:55 AM

Blitzwood

11-25-2010, 11:50 PM

Who I'd select.

12.Janoris Jenkins, CB, Florida - (he's coming out this year)self explanatory.
44.Deunta Williams, S, UNC- self explanatory. Can also return kicks.
76.Austin Pettis, WR, Boise St-AJ being hurt most of the year crippled us offensively.(Also would replace JJ)
108.Jonathan Freeney, DE, Rutgers-improving the pass rush is a bigtime need.
140.Josh Bynes, ILB, Auburn-Depth at LB and insurance incase DR doesn't fully recover.
172.Phil Taylor, DT/NT, Baylor-New Project to replace the old project.
203.D.J. Scott, OT, E. Carolina-Insurance incase Butler leaves.

nunusguy

11-27-2010, 08:57 AM

If you happened to see the "Iron Bowl"/Auburn-'Bama game yesterday, you saw a lot of talent but the guy that impressed me the most was Nick Fairley, Auburns DT. BTW, what a game and what a comeback by Auburn.
I haven't seen Auburn much at all this year, and apparently Fairly is kinda streaky, but he sure impressed yesterday and it seems like the Texans could really use him in the middle of their DLine ?

HPF Bob

11-27-2010, 09:48 AM

nunusguy

11-27-2010, 11:22 AM

I'm going to guess Fairly will be taken higher in the first round than the Texans will be. Watching Nevada's great comeback over Boise St. last night, there was a smallish DE by the name of Moat or Moak who was dominating Boise's OL last night. I don't think his size will hold up in the NFL but he looks like he could easily convert to a blitzing LB. If he's a senior, I wouldn't be surprised to see this guy in the second or third round.
Sounds like Von Miller, the smallish Aggie edge rusher, who's only 'bout 240 ?
I'd love it if the Texans went to the 3-4 next year, and I could see it happening if the old man tells Kubiak he can keep his job but he (McNair) is gonna tell him who his DC will be. These small, quick pass-rushers can often find a home in the 3-4, even in the NFL.

Blitzwood

11-28-2010, 11:23 AM

I believe Dontay Moch is who HPF Bob is referring to...a smaller, faster type of DE which could translate well in the pro's- maybe a 2nd round talent but could move up if what I've read is true about him possessing 4.24 speed:eek: Right now though, I prefer Von Miller over Moch.

Nick Fairley is a beast, I've said it before on this board. I really like him and am starting to think we might have a chance to get him if he's there around the 13-16 picks. I agree that he's a little streaky, but he's already better than what we have in the middle right now.

I've been hearing that the left side on the Wisconsin O-line is one of the best in the last 20 years and I'm starting to agree considering how Wisconsin is dismantling their Big Ten opponents by 50+ point margins. We might want to pick up one or both of Gabe Carimi OT, and John Moffit OG, considering our own left sided woes.

I still think our secondary is priority #1 , but if the value isn't there in the first or second round, I have no qualms addressing the D and O-line first.

NBT

11-29-2010, 03:05 PM

painekiller

11-29-2010, 10:44 PM

I would love for us to go 3-4D next year. But Smithiak better trade up to get Fairly because the nosetackle is the linchpin for a 3-4. I have been high on that guy all year. And of course Frank Bush would have to go. How about Wade Phillips for DC?

I see Fairly as a DE in the 3-4, we have a couple of those right now. Currently, I do not see any NTs worth a 1st round pick in this draft. There are a couple guys who could be 2nd rounders and lower round types in this draft.

But IMO Fairly will be best served in a 4-3.

painekiller

12-01-2010, 01:19 AM

Texans keep dropping lower in the draft, they are currently picking #12. Not a bad effort DT, CB,OG and a PT.

12 Drake Nevis DT LSU 6' 1" 300
44 Shareece Wright CB USC 6' 0" 185
76 Orlando Franklin OG Miami 6' 7" 318
108 Mason Foster ILB Washington 6' 2" 244
140 Jeff Maehl WR Oregon 6' 1" 175
172 DeQuin Evans DE Kentucky 6' 2" 250
203 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215

15 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State 6' 1" 285
47 John Moffitt OC Wisconsin 6' 4" 313
79 Austin Pettis WR Boise State 6' 3" 200
111 Marcus Gilchrist S Clemson 5' 11" 190
143 Nate Irving ILB North Carolina State 6' 1" 235
175 Jonathan Nelson CB Oklahoma 5' 11" 180
206 Jah Reid OT Central Florida 6' 7" 315

we dropped 3 spots with the win Sunday, good news bad news.

Not a bad draft, Moffitt is a OG right now and would most likely be a OG with the current staff.

My choices:
15 traded to KC so they can take Locker for 23, 55
23 DeAndre McDaniel S Clemson 6' 1" 190
47 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
55 Jimmy Smith CB Colorado 6' 2" 205
79 Jerrell Powe NT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
111 Andy Dalton QB TCU 6' 3" 215
143 Nate Irving ILB North Carolina State 6' 1" 235
175 Zach Roth OT TCU 6' 6" 316
206 Eddie Jones OLB/DE Texas 6' 3" 260

Now let the DBs play for reps on the field. Powe can be a force in the middle if we stay in a 4-3 or become the future (sign a FA for 2011) force at NT in a 3-4. Dalton is a project but has a gun and mobility. A couple of new LBs to battle for time. Roth is a project type OT.

Nconroe

12-01-2010, 08:12 PM

I guess this is supposed to be a pretty deep DL draft, but not so deep in the secondary. Should be interesting toward end of March. I really hope there is no lockout in the spring.

NBT

12-04-2010, 02:07 PM

I am convinced we need to replace both safeties if we can, in the draft next year (if there is going to be one). And follow that with a DT who can put an inside passrush on for us so the dadgum opposing QB doesn't have such a comfortable pocket to sit in all day, getting ready to throw.

NBT

12-04-2010, 02:11 PM

I see Fairly as a DE in the 3-4, we have a couple of those right now. Currently, I do not see any NTs worth a 1st round pick in this draft. There are a couple guys who could be 2nd rounders and lower round types in this draft.

But IMO Fairly will be best served in a 4-3.

I'm sure you are right PK, however I think Fairly would be worth trading up for in the first, and that is definitely new for me to say that.

Blitzwood

12-04-2010, 02:24 PM

Great games today, some names to keep an eye on:

Auburn- Nick Fairley* DT, Cam Newton*(obviously) QB, Josh Bynes MLB, Mike Berry OG, Ryan Pugh OC/OG, Mike Blanc DT, Zac Etheridge SS

South Carolina- Chris Culliver CB, Cliff Matthews DE, Ladi Ajiboye DT, Jarriel King OT, Josh Dickerson LB

Oregon St.-Stephen Paea DT, James Dockery CB, Alex Linnenkohl OC

Oregon- Casey Mathews MLB, Kenny Rowe DE, Brandon Bair DT, Remene Alston Jr. RB

Oklahoma- Jeremy Beal DE, Quinton Carter S, Brandon Caleb WR, DeMarco Murray RB, Jonathan Nelson CB

Connecticut- Scott Lutrus LB, Jordan Todman* RB, Greg Lloyd DE, Zach Hurd OG, Alex Polito DE/DT,

nunusguy

12-05-2010, 09:25 AM

So where does Cam play in the NFL ? TE, WR, LB, or maybe even QB ?

Blitzwood

12-06-2010, 02:25 AM

So where does Cam play in the NFL ? TE, WR, LB, or maybe even QB ?

That will be discussed for the next 6 months from the experts that be, Mel Kiper and Todd McShay, good luck!!

Can Cam help This sorry ass team ?

How could he hurt it at this point? A real dilema if u asked me??

painekiller

12-07-2010, 01:50 PM

12 Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue 6' 4" 263
44 Michael Floyd* WR Notre Dame 6' 3" 220
76 Sean Bedford OC Georgia Tech 6' 1" 285
108 Marcus Gilchrist S Clemson 5' 11" 190
140 Alex Wujciak ILB Maryland 6' 3" 255
172 Terrance Sweeney CB Kansas State 5' 8" 176
203 Dexter Larimore DT Ohio State 6' 2" 300

My cherry pick:

12 if 4/3 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State 6' 1" 285
12 if 3/4 Jeremy Beal DE Oklahoma 6' 3" 253
44 Jimmy Smith CB/S Colorado 6' 2" 205
76 if 4/3 Ras-I Dowling CB/S Virginia 6' 2" 200
76 if 3/4 Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
108 Andy Dalton QB TCU 6' 3" 215
140 Roy Helu Jr. RB Nebraska 6' 0" 215
172 Alex Henery K Nebraska
203 Jonas Mouton OLB Michigan 6' 2" 230

Blitzwood

12-07-2010, 08:57 PM

painekiller

12-07-2010, 10:29 PM

Using draftsite's new updated mock, looks like Fairley is going top 5, as he is on walter's...we're probably gonna need a different DT for our wishlist.

My cherry pick:
Trade with New England our 12(1200) for their 32(590) and 33(580).

32. Von Miller, LDE, Texas A&M
33. Deunta Williams, FS, UNC
44. Bruce Carter, Will-OLB, UNC
76. Ras-I Dowling, CB, Virginia
108. Bilal Powell, RB, Louisville
140. Phil Taylor, DT/NT, Baylor
172. Alex Henery, K, Nebraska
203. Chris Culliver, CB/FS/RS, South Carolina

32 Akeem Ayers* OLB UCLA 6' 4" 254
33 Nate Solder OT Colorado 6' 9" 305
44 Jimmy Smith CB Colorado 6' 2" 205
76 Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
108 Pat Devlin QB Delaware 6' 4" 220
140 Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple 6' 2" 195
172 Alex Henery K Nebraska
203 Quan Sturdivant ILB UNC 6' 2" 230

NBT

12-10-2010, 08:31 PM

So where does Cam play in the NFL ? TE, WR, LB, or maybe even QB ?

Newton reminds me a little of VY maybe without the pouting. He will probably want to play the glamorous QB position, but he could probably play any of the skill positions.

Blitzwood

12-12-2010, 12:50 PM

32 Akeem Ayers* OLB UCLA 6' 4" 254
33 Nate Solder OT Colorado 6' 9" 305
44 Jimmy Smith CB Colorado 6' 2" 205
76 Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
108 Pat Devlin QB Delaware 6' 4" 220
140 Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple 6' 2" 195
172 Alex Henery K Nebraska
203 Quan Sturdivant ILB UNC 6' 2" 230

32. Deunta Williams, FS, UNC http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqssqzYQzXk&playnext=1&list=PL970B3382195A8813&index=25

33. JJ Watt, DE/DT, Wisconsin (DT in our 4-3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNTwvuZ3jMs&playnext=1&list=PLC497F48BB95B604E&index=1

44. Lawrence Wilson, LB, Conn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xS_wYk77ns

76. Marcus Gilbert, OT, Florida

108. Bilal Powell, RB, Louisville http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKERqz7G3UU

140. Phil Taylor, DT/NT, Baylor

172.(swapped with Cleveland's 165) Chris Carter, LDE, Fresno St.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMVtxfRt8ok

203. Alex Henery, K, Nebraska

NBT

12-12-2010, 02:54 PM

Deunta Williams looks like a good one. One make a good addition to our woeful safety position.

Nconroe

12-12-2010, 08:08 PM

For me, I'd get another DB or safety instead of a RB at 108, just for fun,
like Marcus Gilchrist

free safety against Georgia Tech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LltvYYNlgoA

and a kick returner
ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdxRTiG7g5s&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96IUaHXm4sY

from NFLscout.com
Name: Marcus Gilchrist
College: Clemson Number: 12
Height: 5-11 Weight: 190
Position: FS Pos2: CB/KR
Class/Draft Year: Sr/2011
40 Time: 4.49 40 Low: 4.38 40 High: 4.59
Projected Round: 3-4 Stock:
Rated number 4 out of 97 FS's 84 / 2591 TOTAL

painekiller

12-14-2010, 12:02 PM

12 Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa 6' 3" 282
44 Jake Kirkpatrick OC TCU 6' 3" 305
76 Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia 6' 2" 200
108 Jermale Hines S Ohio State 6' 2" 210
140 Vincent Brown WR San Diego State 6' 0" 185
172 Archie Donald ILB Toledo 6' 2" 235
203 Ted Laurent DT Mississippi 6' 0" 305

12 Marcell Dareus* DE Alabama 6' 3" 306
44 Jimmy Smith CB Colorado 6' 2" 205
76 Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia 6' 2" 200
I am playing the 4 best cover guys, two of these guys will be CBs and two will be safeties Quin, Jackson, Smith or Dowling.
108 Pat Devlin QB Delaware 6' 4" 220
140 Roy Helu Jr. RB Nebraska 6' 0" 215
172 Alex Henery K Nebraska
203 Derrell Johnson-Koulianos WR Iowa 6' 1" 200

NBT

12-14-2010, 04:23 PM

I want a FS and a DT with the first two picks. I could care less about who will be what, where.

painekiller

12-14-2010, 04:58 PM

I want a FS and a DT with the first two picks. I could care less about who will be what, where.

I did that, If we stay in a 4-3 then Dareus is a DT, if we go to a 3-4, Dareus is a DE.

With the 2nd rounder either the new guy or one of the current CBs is moving to Safety. Quin played Safety in college, Jackson has the size to be a Safety, and Dowling, my 3rd rounder, is a safety prospect also IMO.

painekiller

12-16-2010, 03:11 PM

I want to play a couple of what ifs with you guys.

What if we get a new coordinator that runs a 4-3 (Marvin Lewis anyone?) and likes to attach.

Our CBs are young, we do need to upgrade the FS, but no one is worth a top 15 pick, so what if we go this way?

12 Marcell Dareus* DT Alabama 6' 3" 306 or
12 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State 6' 1" 285
44 Deunta Williams Safety North Carolina 6-2 205
76 Sione Fua DL Stanford 6-2 306
108 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
140 Alex Wujciak ILB Maryland 6' 3" 255
172 Pernell McPhee DE Mississippi State 6' 4" 275
203 Alex Henery K Nebraska
UDFA Eric Hagg Safety Nebraska 6-2 210

My thinking is you would have a DT rotation of Okoye, Mitchell, Dareus/Paea, Fua. That would be some mix of quick and strong at the point.

In the defensive backfield you would have Pollard (if resigned), Nolan, Williams and Keo. The CBs would be Quin, Jackson, Allen, McMannis as a base, nice young talent with a new DB coach.

And I want to attach and attach the line of scrimmage.

chuck

12-16-2010, 08:47 PM

painekiller

12-16-2010, 10:59 PM

I'd like to attach a few more wins to the total next year.

After the last couple of games I'm beginning to think that with this year's torching the corners are actually starting to play up to a near-NFL level. I'm thinking that it is possible that Quin and Jackson and whoever else may prove to be serviceable and this year's disaster might actually pay some dividends. A better DL would definitely help so I'm with you on DL with the first pick if that yields the best value. The DL got some decent push the last two weeks and the defense as a whole didn't look nearly as inept as it did in the earlier part of the season.

It appears to me that a couple things have happened to our defense in the last few weeks, one we signed Damione Lewis and he has gotten some push up the middle, two they have played Mark Anderson more and he has gotten pressure, and three they finally started using some exotic blitzes.

What if they had used the pressure from day one? What if we had another big bodied DT from day one? What if Barwin had not been hurt?

I think Kubiak keeps the training wheels on the defense to start the season and then lets the coaches take them off when their jobs are on the line. Man he seems to be a slow learner.

NBT

12-19-2010, 03:17 PM

I think Kubiak keeps the training wheels on the defense to start the season and then lets the coaches take them off when their jobs are on the line. Man he seems to be a slow learner.

It does seem to be that way,.......and also he appears to be too loyal to his coaches as well as some players. He leans on coaches and players he is familiar with, like coaches he has been around in SF and Denver, as well as a lot of undrafted Colorado State players. IF he stays he must give up his influence on who Rick Smith would like to get when it comes to the defense. That is why I am for a President of operations person like a Parcells, or someone similar.

painekiller

12-20-2010, 02:04 AM

It does seem to be that way,.......and also he appears to be too loyal to his coaches as well as some players. He leans on coaches and players he is familiar with, like coaches he has been around in SF and Denver, as well as a lot of undrafted Colorado State players. IF he stays he must give up his influence on who Rick Smith would like to get when it comes to the defense. That is why I am for a President of operations person like a Parcells, or someone similar.

I thought about starting a thread on hiring Parcells to run the team, but he would not like any of our current players. IMO he would fire everybody from Rick Smith down to the practice squad players.

I like what he does to instill winning on a team, but he has not taken anyone to the Super Bowl in a long time. So has he lost his edge?

I'm leaning in favor of hiring a real GM and letting him decide who becomes the next HC like most team do it, not letting the HC hire the GM.

painekiller

12-21-2010, 12:22 PM

They have us picking at 11.

11 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State 6' 1" 285
43 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
75 Titus Young WR Boise State 5' 11" 170
107 Zach Hurd OG Connecticut 6' 7" 315
139 Doyle Miller CB Nevada 5' 11" 185
171 Archie Donald ILB Toledo 6' 2" 235
203 Pierre Allen DE Nebraska 6' 5" 265

I could live with this draft.

my attempt

11 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State 6' 1" 285
43 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
75 Sione Fua DT Stanford 6' 2" 307
107 Andy Dalton QB TCU 6' 3" 215
139 Eric Hagg S Nebraska 6' 2" 205
171 Niles Paul WR Nebraska 6' 1" 215
203 Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175

Blitzwood

12-23-2010, 10:44 PM

painekiller

12-24-2010, 01:15 AM

What I come up with if we were switching to 3-4

11. Robert Quinn, DE/OLB, UNC
43. Jabaal Sheard, DE/OLB, Pitt
75. Jaiquawn Jarrett, FS, Temple
107. James Carpenter, OT, Alabama
139. Eric Hagg, SS, Nebraska
171. Adrian Moten, LB, Maryland
203. Alex Henery, K, Nebraska

If we go to a 3-4 we are going to need more beef in the middle of the defensive line. And I do not see you addressing that, I know we could try to go after a NT in FA. Also Quinn is a high risk pick and size wise more a 4-3 DE IMO than a 3-4 DE. I like 300+ lbs for my 3-4 DE. I would trade Mario Williams, but not sure you will get much with him being in a rehab situation, so I will get #32 from the Pats because I would take Miller at our #11, and this mock has him at 32.

My attempt at a 3-4 draft

11 Stephen Paea DE/NT Oregon State 6' 1" 302
32 Von Miller OLB Texas A&M 6' 3" 240
43 Jarvis Jenkins DE Clemson 6' 4" 310
75 Sione Fua NT Stanford 6' 2" 307
107 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
139 Eric Hagg S Nebraska 6' 2" 205
171 Quan Sturdivant ILB UNC 6' 2" 230
203 Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175

My 3-4 defense of the future is:
DE Paea NT Fua DE Jenkins
OLBs Miller & Barwin/Cushing ILBs Ryans/Sturdivant Sharpton/Cushing
CBs Jackson Quin Safeties Keo Hagg

TexanJedi

12-24-2010, 12:01 PM

If we go to a 3-4 we are going to need more beef in the middle of the defensive line. And I do not see you addressing that, I know we could try to go after a NT in FA. Also Quinn is a high risk pick and size wise more a 4-3 DE IMO than a 3-4 DE. I like 300+ lbs for my 3-4 DE. I would trade Mario Williams, but not sure you will get much with him being in a rehab situation, so I will get #32 from the Pats because I would take Miller at our #11, and this mock has him at 32.

My 3-4 defense of the future is:
DE Paea NT Fua DE Jenkins
OLBs Miller & Barwin/Cushing ILBs Ryans/Sturdivant Sharpton/Cushing
CBs Jackson Quin Safeties Keo Hagg

This is my worst fear about converting to the 3-4. The Mario Factor is the key, can he play in the 3-4 and excel, and if not they would probably not trade him for a year after trying to answer that question. At that point his value would be diminished. In the above scenario the Patriots would be lauded as geniuses, and rightfully so, and the Texans would look like morons. And I don't think relying on two rookies safties is the way to go either.

I just think we can build a good (4-3) defense under new coaching/regime just fine with some of the personnel we already have, namely Mario. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is the thing that keeps me from the Cowher or Bust bandwagon.

painekiller

12-24-2010, 02:52 PM

This is my worst fear about converting to the 3-4. The Mario Factor is the key, can he play in the 3-4 and excel, and if not they would probably not trade him for a year after trying to answer that question. At that point his value would be diminished. In the above scenario the Patriots would be lauded as geniuses, and rightfully so, and the Texans would look like morons. And I don't think relying on two rookies safties is the way to go either.

I just think we can build a good (4-3) defense under new coaching/regime just fine with some of the personnel we already have, namely Mario. Maybe I'm wrong, but this is the thing that keeps me from the Cowher or Bust bandwagon.

I did not say that this group was the starters in 2011, but they should be solid starters by 2013. Also I am not on the Cowher or bust band wagon, I was simply responding to another posters 3-4 mock. My original cherry pick was for a 4-3. In my original cherry I went with two DTs and 2 safeties, but I do not think a guy should play until he has earned the playing time, one of my complaints against Kubiak.

I currently believe Kubiak is coming back next year with a new defensive coordinator. Hopefully someone like John Fox or Marvin Lewis. But a former HC is unlikely and I and the fans will be underwhelmed by the move.

Blitzwood

12-25-2010, 10:13 AM

If we go to a 3-4 we are going to need more beef in the middle of the defensive line. And I do not see you addressing that, I know we could try to go after a NT in FA. Also Quinn is a high risk pick and size wise more a 4-3 DE IMO than a 3-4 DE. I like 300+ lbs for my 3-4 DE. I would trade Mario Williams, but not sure you will get much with him being in a rehab situation, so I will get #32 from the Pats because I would take Miller at our #11, and this mock has him at 32.

My attempt at a 3-4 draft

11 Stephen Paea DE/NT Oregon State 6' 1" 302
32 Von Miller OLB Texas A&M 6' 3" 240
43 Jarvis Jenkins DE Clemson 6' 4" 310
75 Sione Fua NT Stanford 6' 2" 307
107 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
139 Eric Hagg S Nebraska 6' 2" 205
171 Quan Sturdivant ILB UNC 6' 2" 230
203 Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175

My 3-4 defense of the future is:
DE Paea NT Fua DE Jenkins
OLBs Miller & Barwin/Cushing ILBs Ryans/Sturdivant Sharpton/Cushing
CBs Jackson Quin Safeties Keo Hagg

What'd you say 'bout my draft??? J/k.

Yea, I didn't address the NT position because I think Lewis, our recently signed DT is capable. I believe Quinn is very capable of being an OLB in a 3-4. He bounced between a 4-3 and 3-4 some at UNC.

I think Paea is a harder sell in a 3-4. Fua, IMO, is a little undersized for the NT.

painekiller

12-25-2010, 12:17 PM

What'd you say 'bout my draft??? J/k.

Yea, I didn't address the NT position because I think Lewis, our recently signed DT is capable. I believe Quinn is very capable of being an OLB in a 3-4. He bounced between a 4-3 and 3-4 some at UNC.

I think Paea is a harder sell in a 3-4. Fua, IMO, is a little undersized for the NT.

Seth Payne was smaller than Fua, so I'm hoping he can become a force in the middle. As for Paea he is a penetrator and that is what I want in my 3-4, that is the way that Wade Phillips runs the 3-4.

painekiller

12-30-2010, 04:50 PM

NBT

12-31-2010, 05:43 PM

Thing is we could have had Nata back when he first came out for just exercising him as our pick, BUT we didn't, and I'm not for going back now and giving up 2 future first rounders to make up for what we should have done in the first place.

Blitzwood

01-01-2011, 01:54 AM

painekiller

01-01-2011, 04:43 PM

8 Marcell Dareus* DT Alabama 6' 3" 306
40 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
72 Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 6' 0" 190
104 Steve Schilling OG Michigan 6' 5" 305
136 K.J. Wright OLB Mississippi State 6' 4" 245
168 Dane Sanzenbacher WR Ohio State 5' 11" 185
199 Jonathan Cornell ILB Mississippi 6' 1" 235

Again not a bad draft, but if we go to a 3-4, do we have a spot for Dareus who IMO is a DE in the 3-4. I know we need to upgrade the DEs for the 3-4 but Mario and Antonio should be the starters at DE.

My mock/cherry pick has a trade involved in it. We give #8 & 72 for the 49ers pick at #6

6 Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska 6' 1" 205
40 Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
104 Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple 6' 2" 195
136 Andy Dalton QB TCU 6' 3" 215
168 Wayne Daniels OLB TCU 6' 2" 250
199 Alex Henery K/P Nebraska 6' 2" 175

The other option is one this team is not inclined to do and that is Ngata will be franchised, so go sign him and give up the 2 first round draft picks. Having Ngata is better than any pick they could draft at #8.

After watching some bowl games, not liking what I saw from Prince, overrated IMO, and thinking maybe Wade runs a hybrid defense. Here is another attempt at this one by me.

8 Von Miller OLB Texas A&M 6' 3" 240
40 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297
72 Kendrick Ellis DT Hampton 6' 5" 340
104 Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple 6' 2" 195
136 Eric Hagg S Nebraska 6' 2" 205
168 Benjamin Ijalana OT/OG Villanova 6' 4" 320
199 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215

This is way to early for Miller and I know that, but I think we win tomorrow, or I would try to trade down if Peterson and Fairley are gone when we pick. In a 3-4 Miller and Barwin are my OLBs with Cushing and Ryans in the Middle, Sharpton is the future MLB.

Wisniewski is a stud who can play OG or OC, and he should be a late 1st rounder, but if he drops to us we need to solidify that RG position. Ellis gives that big body to play the true NT.

I agree with Blitzwood, we need a safety tandem, and I not know Smith from Notre Dame, but I do know Hagg. Jarrett and Hagg shoud have to earn there time, not be handed it.

The All American punter from Florida will give us a big leg now, and Ijalana will be allowed to develop and possibly be a OG in our system.

If the team can pull off getting another 2nd round pick I would grab Mike Pouncey and then our middle of the OL is set for a long time. Pouncey, Wisniewski, Caldwell in some combination would be the future OL.

As for the the NT postion, I would go out in FA and sign one or two of the following guys:John Henderson, DT, Raiders ; Ronald Fields, NT Denver; Ron Edwards, NT KC(Klein Forest/ A&M grad); Shaun Smith, NT, KC; Paul Soliai, NT Dolphins, Haloti Ngata DE/NT Ravens (he will be Franchised and cost two 1st round picks); Chris Hoke, NT Steelers; Remi Ayodele, DT Saints; Bryan Robinson, NT, Arizona; Gabe Watson, NT, Arizono; Alan Branch, DE/NT, Arizona; Aubrayo Franklin, NT, 49ers; Brandon Mebane, DT, Seattle.

Let Ellis develop behind two veteran NT with experience in the NFL, that will help this team now and later.

painekiller

01-01-2011, 11:02 PM

8 Da'Quan Bowers Clemson DE43
40 Jason Pinkston Pittsburgh OG
72 Brian Lainhart Kent State FS
104 Aaron Williams Texas CB
136 Titus Young Boise State WRF

Not on love with this draft, my cherry pick

8 Von Miller Texas A&M OLB34
40 Sione Fua Stanford DT34
72 Mike Pouncey Florida OG
104 Quinton Carter Oklahoma SS
136 Mark Barron Alabama FS

painekiller

01-03-2011, 01:44 PM

11 Marcell Dareus* DT Alabama 6' 3" 306
43 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
75 Joe Lefeged CB Rutgers 6' 1" 205
107 Steve Schilling OG Michigan 6' 5" 305
139 Vincent Brown WR San Diego State 6' 0" 185
171 Dain Taylor DE Drake 6' 3" 242
202 Josh Bynes ILB Auburn 6' 2" 239

Again if we stay in the 4-3 not a bad 1st pick, If we go to a 3-4 then we may have to many 3-4 DEs to go with one in the 1st. But not a bad one to draft. He could be a Gary Walker type.

painekiller

01-06-2011, 02:06 AM

11 Marcell Dareus* DT Alabama 6' 3" 306
42 Ahmad Black S Florida 5' 9" 190
73 Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia 6' 2" 200
104 Caleb Schlauderaff OG Utah 6' 4" 300
135 Armon Binns WR Cincinnati 6' 4" 200
173 Alex Wujciak ILB Maryland 6' 3" 255
203 Zac Etheridge S Auburn 6' 0" 213

It's official, we are going to a 3-4. Not a great mock draft overall IMO for the conversion.
My Cherry Pick:
Trade #11 to Miami for #14 and 78. They take Blaine Gabbert.
Trade #14 to Seattle for #21 and 53. They take Locker.

21 Stephen Paea DT Oregon State 6' 1" 311
38 Dontay Moch OLB Nevada 6' 1" 245
42 traded to Denver with 4th round pick
53 Jimmy Smith CB Colorado 6' 2" 205
73 Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia 6' 2" 200
78 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297
Trade Amobi Okoye to NE for #96
96 Sione Fua DT Stanford 6' 2" 307
104 Traded to Denver
135 Chris White ILB Mississippi State 6' 4" 245
173 Niles Paul WR Nebraska 6' 1" 215
203 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215

DE Mario /Mark Anderson; NT Damione Lewis/ Paea/ Fua; DE Smith / Earl Mitchell
OLB Moch; ILB Ryans/Sharpton; ILB Cushing/Chris White; OLB Barwin

Passing downs : Mario, Mitchell, Smith, Anderson
Moch , Cushing, Barwin

As for the DBs may the best man win: (Not in Order) Glover Quin, Sherrick McManis, Kareem Jackson, Jason Allen, Troy Nolan, Jimmy Smith, Ras-I Dowling, Leaving 3 spots open for Vet FAs.

NBT

01-07-2011, 04:54 PM

Seth Payne I liked. Gary walker not so much.

Nconroe

01-08-2011, 11:40 AM

Has a schedule for FA's being available or draft date been set given CBA is still very much in question.

or even if do draft or open FA season, when signings can start to be official, likely after CBA agreed?

I'd like them to just agree to change rookie first round top 10 salary limits, see how that effects things, TV contracts seem to be growing so revenues to teams and players will grow without any changes, and then leave rest as is for a few years, get on with it.

NBT

01-08-2011, 05:28 PM

You think there will be a new CBA soon? All I see is a power struggle, with the season likely in the balance.

Nconroe

01-09-2011, 12:02 PM

On CBA, hard to say, both sides seem to be use poor negotiating skills

NFLPA website has some info and links from their side
http://www.nflplayers.com/about-us/2011-Lockout-Central/

Roger Godell put out a letter a few days ago. trying to sound optimistic. http://www.entertainmentbeacon.com/news/sports/7576-letter-from-nfl-commissioner-goodell-to-fans

Chron covers impacts on Texans FA possibly
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/7371555.html

This appears to be a balanced view of the situation
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ms-laborquestions090810

Nconroe

01-09-2011, 12:20 PM

It's official, we are going to a 3-4. Not a great mock draft overall IMO for the conversion.
My Cherry Pick:
Trade #11 to Miami for #14 and 78. They take Blaine Gabbert.
Trade #14 to Seattle for #21 and 53. They take Locker.

Yeah, likely if we can trade down, and get as many picks as possible in top three rounds is good.

NBT

01-10-2011, 03:24 PM

After listening to the Wade Phillips interview on radio 610 today it doesn't look like Wade thinks it's that big of a deal personnel wise, to change over to a 3-4 from the 4-3 we presently use.

chuck

01-10-2011, 09:47 PM

After listening to the Wade Phillips interview on radio 610 today it doesn't look like Wade thinks it's that big of a deal personnel wise, to change over to a 3-4 from the 4-3 we presently use.

Kubiak said he could win with Carr.

WMH

01-10-2011, 11:01 PM

Kubiak said he could win with Carr.

Kubiak was trying to get a job......

chuck

01-10-2011, 11:05 PM

Kubiak was trying to get a job......

What's Wade supposed to say?

We are screwed. We have no 3-4 DL, we have maybe one 3-4 LB, our secondary is the worst I have ever seen.

That?

popanot

01-11-2011, 07:40 AM

Kubiak was trying to get a job......Wade was too... The one common thread in all this is McNair. He's the same buffoon who was convinced that Carr was serviceable and gave him a ridiculous extension, and the same buffoon who gave his HC an extension despite performing at or below mediocrity. This franchise is a mess and it all starts at the top. There are multiple instances this year and in the past that clearly indicates this.

painekiller

01-12-2011, 03:18 PM

11 Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa 6' 3" 282
42 Muhammed Wilkerson* DT Temple 6' 5" 300
73 Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320
104 Jeron Johnson S Boise State 5' 11" 194
135 Chykie Brown CB Texas 6' 0" 190
173 Niles Paul WR Nebraska 6' 1" 215
203 Alex Wujciak ILB Maryland 6' 3" 255

Not in Love with this one either. I see some hits but I do not see Clayborn as an upgrade at either DE spot. More of a BPA type pick and we already have to many DEs for the new system..

My take.

11 Dontay Moch OLB Nevada 6' 1" 245 (Watch him climb the board, hopefully we can trade down and get him, but if not...)
42 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297
73 Kendrick Ellis DT Hampton 6' 5" 340
104 Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple 6' 2" 195
135 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
173 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215
203 Jonathan Cornell ILB Mississippi 6' 1" 235

popanot

01-13-2011, 01:09 PM

Here's a 1rst round mock. The mock has us taking Akeem Ayers (OLB - UCLA). I looked up video of Ayers and he looks like a good player, but seems a bit stiff or slightly slower than I'd prefer in a rushing 3-4 DE/OLB. The mock has Von Miller going 18, so I think I'd cherrypick Miller if we were to go OLB.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/andrew_perloff/01/12/mock-draft/index.html?xid=si_nfl

NBT

01-13-2011, 06:15 PM

Kubiak said he could win with Carr.

.......But then Kubiak has done pretty well with Schaub. You can't bat 1000 with every decision you make. Just hope most of them work out pretty well.

Blitzwood

01-13-2011, 08:09 PM

My take.

11 Dontay Moch OLB Nevada 6' 1" 245 (Watch him climb the board, hopefully we can trade down and get him, but if not...)
42 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297
73 Kendrick Ellis DT Hampton 6' 5" 340
104 Jaiquawn Jarrett S Temple 6' 2" 195
135 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
173 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215
203 Jonathan Cornell ILB Mississippi 6' 1" 235

MY take,

11. Cameron Heyward DE(3-4) Ohio State 6' 6" 290
42. Casey Matthews OLB Oregon 6'2" 235
73. Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320
104. Justin Houston* OLB Georgia 6'3" 258
135. Jermale Hines S Ohio State 6' 2" 210
173. Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 6' 0" 190(drops because of a broken arm)
203. Jamie Harper* RB Clemson 5' 11" 230

painekiller

01-13-2011, 09:38 PM

MY take,

11. Cameron Heyward DE(3-4) Ohio State 6' 6" 290
42. Casey Matthews OLB Oregon 6'2" 235
73. Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320
104. Justin Houston* OLB Georgia 6'3" 258
135. Jermale Hines S Ohio State 6' 2" 210
173. Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 6' 0" 190(drops because of a broken arm)
203. Jamie Harper* RB Clemson 5' 11" 230

Nice attempt. Only question I have is where is your NT?

nunusguy

01-14-2011, 07:20 AM

STEPHEN PAEA HAS for the second consecutive year been voted the winner of the Morris Trophy. Paea becomes the fourth two-time recipient of the award, having won it in 2009, and becomes the fourth Beaver to win the Morris Trophy, joining Esera Tuaolo (1989), Inoke Breckterfield (1998) and Bill Swancutt (2004).
The Morris Trophy is given to the outstanding offensive and defensive linemen in the Pac-10. The selection procedure is unique -- the starting offensive linemen in the Pac-10 vote for the defensive winner and vice versa.
**
Stephen Paea, the 6-1, 311-pound senior from Los Altos, Calif., whose only Pac-10 offer was from Oregon State coming out of junior college, also received received the 2010 Pac-10 Conference Pat Tillman Defensive Player of the Year honor
http://oregonstate.scout.com/2/1032875.html
**
This guy appears to be an Amobi Okoye, but with excellent functional strength and a full-time motor, both missing from Okoyes game.
Phillips says he's not necessarily interested in a big fat guy to play nose, so this might be an option ? Also depends on how Phillips rates Mitchell & Cody ?

chuck

01-14-2011, 11:17 AM

.......But then Kubiak has done pretty well with Schaub. You can't bat 1000 with every decision you make. Just hope most of them work out pretty well.

My point, obviously, is that one should not take at face value Wade's assertion that he can run his defense with the personnel he has now. He's not going to come in and immediately take a dump on the slapstick defense these clowns have assembled.

Solomon mentioned in his blog the other day what Vegas thinks of the Texans' chances at the playoffs next year:

"Bodog.com has the Texans at +175 to make the postseason and -215 at not making it."

Hilarious. McNair may be fooling the necks around here by hiring a pair of hometown goons but he certainly isn't fooling Las Vegas.

Blitzwood

01-18-2011, 09:08 PM

Nice attempt. Only question I have is where is your NT?

I'll draft a NT to groom under Cody and Lewis for a year.

11. Justin Houston* OLB Georgia 6' 3" 259 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR0L2RVId90
42. Ahmad Black FS Florida 5' 9" 190 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9msQlgOziFE
73. Jarvis Jenkins NT Clemson 6' 4" 310 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV0wC2rXo-w&feature=related
104. Markus White OLB Florida State 6' 4" 260
135. Mike Blanc DE 3-4 Auburn 6' 4" 290
173. Jermale Hines SS Ohio State 6' 2" 210
203. Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfCedROWWog

I'd be happy with either draft, but I prefer to: trade down with N.E. our 11th for the 28th and 33rd pick.

28. Allen Bailey DE 3-4 Miami 6' 4" 288 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQvcXWLQKyk
33. Casey Matthews ILB/OLB Oregon 6' 2" 235 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUz2o2a_OXA
42. Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzjPIP3gKkU
73. Bruce Carter OLB UNC 6' 3" 230 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6nFL9XVNmo
104. Armon Binns WR Cincinnati 6' 4" 200 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NunWG3U-Dw
135.Tejay Johnson S TCU 6' 1" 210 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inQL9MiGVHM
173. Anthony Gray NT Southern Miss 6'0" 318
203. Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfCedROWWog

I thought Bailey at 28 was a solid pick, he's got everything you look for in a 3-4 DE. Next I took the guess work out of the Texans draft war room and picked the brothers of two pro-bowlers:cool:. Bruce Carter will man the other OLB spot opposite Matthews. Binns gives us the REAL #2 we've needed for some time now, I think JJ will look for a payraise elsewhere this coming season anyways. Tejay gives us some depth in the secondary and Gray could some day be our NT, he's very hard to block down low. Henery kills two birds withe one stone, he's our PK and our punter. And a very good one at that.

Roy P

01-18-2011, 11:12 PM

11 Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa 6' 3" 282
42 Muhammed Wilkerson* DT Temple 6' 5" 300
73 Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320
104 Jeron Johnson S Boise State 5' 11" 194
135 Chykie Brown CB Texas 6' 0" 190
173 Niles Paul WR Nebraska 6' 1" 215
203 Alex Wujciak ILB Maryland 6' 3" 255

Not in Love with this one either.

OLB Justin Houston Georgia 6'3" 260
S DeAndre McDaniel Clemson 6'0" 212
ILB Bruce Carter North Carolina 6'3" 230
OT Jason Pinkston Pittsburgh 6'4" 310
OG Danny Watkins Baylor 6'4" 310
QB Greg McElroy Alabama 6'2" 225
WR Jarvis Williams NC State 6'4" 218

Hopefully, I have a NT, DE, CB all signed after Free Agency.

Roy P

01-19-2011, 01:41 PM

OLB Justin Houston Georgia 6'3" 260
S DeAndre McDaniel Clemson 6'0" 212
ILB Bruce Carter North Carolina 6'3" 230
OT Jason Pinkston Pittsburgh 6'4" 310
OG Danny Watkins Baylor 6'4" 310
QB Greg McElroy Alabama 6'2" 225
WR Jarvis Williams NC State 6'4" 218

Hopefully, I have a NT, DE, CB all signed after Free Agency.

CB Prince Amukamara is at the top of my wish list.
S DeAndre McDaniel or Rahim Moore or Jimmy Smith in the 2nd round
NT Jarvis Jenkins Or Jerrell Powe
OLB Sam Acho or KJ Wright
DB Jerrard Tarrant, Deunta Williams, Chris Conte, Jalil Brown, Will Hill, Chris Culliver

Then maybe another LB or DL :)

painekiller

01-19-2011, 02:44 PM

11 Justin Houston* DE Georgia 6' 3" 259
42 Lawrence Guy* DT Arizona State 6' 5" 300
73 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
104 Shareece Wright CB USC 6' 0" 185
135 Tim Barnes OC Missouri
173 Greg Salas WR Hawaii 6' 2" 200
203 Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa 6' 4" 218

I've fallen out of favor with Moch as a 1st rounder, will get a better read by this weekend on him.

11 Von Miller OLB Texas A&M 6' 3" 240
42 Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320
73 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
104 Kendrick Ellis DT Hampton 6' 5" 340
135 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
173 Niles Paul WR Nebraska 6' 1" 215
203 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215

WMH

01-19-2011, 03:01 PM

I REFUSE to be an insider, but Paul K @ the AFC South blog posted Kipers 1st (of probably 300) rd mock, and he has us with:
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth

Texans, 11th: Aldon Smith, OLB, Missouri

A late addition to the Big Board, Smith's declaration moved him up among draft-eligible pass-rushers. Smith is more athlete than refined pass-rusher at this stage, but he has a great wing-span and is a perfect size and speed combination to develop as an outside linebacker. We know Houston has to address the defensive side of the ball and Smith is the kind of high-upside player that will fly up the board as personnel people start seeing the tape. He'll improve a weak pass rush.

Kuharsky on fit: The Texans need to stock up at linebacker with their move to a 3-4, so Smith could make sense. Especially if there is no super value defensive back here.

Side note - Kiper currently has Von Miller going 8th to the.....Titans.

Roy P

01-19-2011, 08:40 PM

The Texans need to stock up at linebacker with their move to a 3-4, so Smith could make sense. Especially if there is no super value defensive back here.

The need for LBs is really due to the fact that we don't know how strong Barwin and Ryans come back from injury, so I wouldn't mind taking two in the draft or getting one from Free Agency and drafting another. Bruce Carter of UNC would be a great fit in my opinion as an ILB who has the speed to cover a TE. An OLB like Aldon Smith makes sense if Patrick Peterson or Prince Amukamara are not available at #11. I'd almost be willing to trade up for one of those big CBs. Other OLB candidates include Justin Houston, Jabaal Sheard, Jeremy Beal, KJ Wright, or Sam Acho. If we want to groom an OLB and not use a high pick, then Brooks Reed, Wayne Daniels, Markus White, Ugo Chinasa, Eddie Jones, Cheta Ozougwu, or Steven Friday may be options to look at late.

I'm also targeting a NT like Jarvis Jenkins or Jerrell Powe in this draft.

Nconroe

01-21-2011, 01:10 PM

What do ya'll think of Phillip Taylor as a DT, 6'4", 340 from Baylor in say second or third round if he lasts that long?

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117626

Roy P

01-21-2011, 01:55 PM

What do ya'll think of Phillip Taylor as a DT, 6'4", 340 from Baylor in say second or third round if he lasts that long?

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1117626

There are currently 3 DTs in this draft that I'm looking at to play NT in our 3-4 defense. Jerrell Powe, Jarvis Jenkins, and Phil Taylor. Picking around #73

painekiller

01-21-2011, 04:44 PM

There are currently 3 DTs in this draft that I'm looking at to play NT in our 3-4 defense. Jerrell Powe, Jarvis Jenkins, and Phil Taylor. Picking around #73

I'll add Kendrick Ellis Hampton 6' 5" 340 to the list of guys above as NTs I am interested in.

Taylor and Jenkins will be at the Senior Bowl next week, none of these guys will be at this weekends Shrine Game.

Roy P

01-21-2011, 05:54 PM

I'll add Kendrick Ellis Hampton 6' 5" 340 to the list of guys above as NTs I am interested in.

Taylor and Jenkins will be at the Senior Bowl next week, none of these guys will be at this weekends Shrine Game.

He has some 'red flags' that are making me shy away. He's also very tall, so I'd rather simply sign Gabe Watson or Alan Branch in Free Agency. I know what I'd get from them.

Blitzwood

01-21-2011, 10:09 PM

11 Justin Houston* DE Georgia 6' 3" 259
42 Jurrell Casey* DT USC 6' 1" 295
73 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
104 Shareece Wright CB USC 6' 0" 185
135 Dwayne Harris WR East Carolina 6' 0" 205
173 Zach Hurd OG Connecticut 6' 7" 315
203 Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa 6' 4" 218

For whatever reason I just don't see Justin Houston as an 11th pick. My take,

11 Robert Quinn* OLB/DE UNC 6' 5" 260 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuKdkjZf5uk
42 Ahmad Black S Florida 5' 9" 190 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9msQlgOziFE
73 Mike Pouncey OG Florida 6' 5" 320 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzjPIP3gKkU
104 Andy Dalton QB TCU 6' 3" 215 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rgEw2tT00Q
135 Quan Sturdivant ILB/OLB UNC 6' 2" 230 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id-whIyM9AA&feature=related
173 Mike Blanc DE3-4 Auburn 6' 4" 290
203 Derrick Hill NT Cal 6'2" 308 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm5JMfyC1XM

UDFA:

Harrison Smith S Notre Dame 6'2" 214
Armando Allen Jr. RB Notre Dame 5'10" 205 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udN6vrSlLEg&feature=related
Cecil Shorts WR 6'2" 200 Mount Union http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfn3oxSbJ6A
Brandon Caleb WR Oklahoma 6'0" 195

I just can't help but think of Demarcus Ware when I see Quinn rush the QB. Ahmad Black is a no brainer, perhaps the best instincts of this safety class. Pouncy helps shore up our Oline and gives it a nasty streak its been severely lacking all these years. Dalton gives us a backup QB to groom and potentially take over some day, and him being a local kid only helps him. Quan is a LB with versatility to plug in the middle or outside. Mike Blanc is an underrated player who's solid against the run and can pressure the passer. Hill shores up the Dline at the NT, very stout against the run, his highlight reel is ridicules.

Smith and Allen out of Notre dame are probably the two best players at their postion's that nobody's heard of(I like that line), real sleepers of the draft. Our secondary and backup RB spots are some real areas of concern for me. As is our WR depth, Shorts and Caleb aren't too shaby for UDFA's.

NBT

01-22-2011, 04:51 PM

I was hoping we could finally start to draft for BPA but with last years abominable defense, it looks like we will still be stuck in the NEED mode. Need being CB & FS followed closely by NT.

painekiller

01-25-2011, 10:56 PM

they have adjusted there mock with the completion of the playoffs.

11 Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 5" 260
42 DeAndre McDaniel S Clemson 6' 1" 190
73 Casey Matthews ILB Oregon 6' 2" 235
104 Joe Lefeged CB Rutgers 6' 1" 205
135 Ronald Johnson WR USC 6' 0" 190
173 Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech 6' 1" 215
203 Brennan Olander DT Oregon State 6' 1" 276

I don't think Quinn is a McNair type guy, we will see.

11 Justin Houston* DE Georgia 6' 3" 259
42 DeAndre McDaniel SS Clemson 6' 1" 190
73 Sam Acho DE Texas 6' 3" 258
104 Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
135 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
173 Niles Paul WR Nebraska 6' 1" 215
203 Roy Helu Jr. RB Nebraska 6' 0" 215

My OLBs are Houston, Acho, Barwin and Anderson
My DEs are Mario and Antonio, and a FA
MY NTs are Cody, Powe and Mitchell?
ILBs Ryans, Cushing, Sharpton and Bentley
Safeties are McDaniel, Keo, Nolan and Quinn or Barber
CBs are Jackson, FA, ?Quinn, Allen, McMannis

My RBs are Foster, Tate, Helu

Say bye bye to Okoye, Pollard, Wilson, Diles, Owen Daniels and Jacoby Jones. Time for a do over at a few positions, sign some Veteran FAs.

painekiller

01-27-2011, 10:37 AM

11 J.J. Watt Wisconsin DE34 Drafttek.com's DRAFTSIM model draws JJ Watt for the 2nd consecutive week! Uncle Wade ends up with maybe the top 3-4 DE in this year's draft. Watt plays the game with a tenacity and passion not often seen today and is the first building block in Houston's conversion to a 3-4 defense. The Texans' current roster only has 2 candidates to play DE in a 3-4: Mario Williams and Antonio Smith. Watt compliments this duo nicely and provides an excellent rotation pattern for the 3-man line. - Long Ball
42 DeAndre McDaniel Clemson SS The Houston Texans had the worst secondary in the league last year -- there, I've said it! McDaniel was a pre-season darling, had his ups and downs for Clemson during the year, but is a ball-hawking safety whose reaction instincts and "football speed" belies his forty time. Not only will this selection solidify Houston's young CB's and improve the turnover ratio in 2011, but provides a more physical presence in run support with the advent of Wade Phillips' new 3-4 alignment. - Long Ball
73 Johnny Patrick Louisville CB
104 Christian Ballard Iowa DE34
141 Justin Boren Ohio State OG
172 Jeremy Kellem Middle Tennessee FS
202 Kenny Rowe Oregon OLB34

Where I like Watts and Ballard, I have many more needs with the conversion, and DE is not biggest need. Unless I am trading Mario, I do not see two 34 DEs in this draft.

painekiller

01-29-2011, 05:07 PM

And the climb begins, Von Miller has had a wonderful week at Mobile and this mock has him going #5 to Arizona, wow!

11 Houston Texans: Aldon Smith, DE/OLB, Missouri
Rejoice, Texans fans! Wade Phillips is your new defensive coordinator.

With the shift to the 3-4, Houston will need a nose tackle to pair with ends Mario Williams and Antonio Smith. DeMeco Ryans and Brian Cushing would play inside linebacker, while the outside pass rushers would be Connor Barwin and... umm... Aldon Smith.

Smith missed some action this year, which would explain why he had only 10 TFL and 4.5 sacks. However, he's a freak of nature and pretty much a lock for the top 15. Smith has drawn comparisons to Jason Pierre-Paul in terms of raw athleticism. I think he's more 4-3, but he does project well into the 3-4.

42 Houston Texans: Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado
The Texans will be targeting a rush linebacker and a cornerback with their top two selections in the 2011 NFL Draft. Aldon Smith filled the former need with the 11th pick in the first round. Jimmy Smith would satisfy the latter.

Despite taking Kareem Jackson in the first round of last year's draft, Houston still must address the cornerback position. Kareem Jackson has to improve, while Glover Quin would be better served as the nickel.

73 Houston Texans: Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
The Texans desperately need to address both safety positions this offseason. Free safety is more dire, as Eugene Wilson and Troy Nolan have both failed there.

104 Houston Texans: Ian Williams, NT, Notre Dame
Houston's current nose tackle is Amobi Okoye. If he doesn't pan out in his new position, the Texans will need a Plan B.

I'm going to suggest something that it seems I do every year, if the draft falls like this does, trade down. Someone will be looking at a QB and not wanting to pay top 10 money, trade down and get picks for later.

But I will play with what is here:

11 Aldon Smith, DE/OLB, Missouri top 34 OLB available
42 Quinton Carter, S, Oklahoma
73 Brooks Reed, DE/OLB, Arizona
104 Greg Salas, WR, Hawaii

There are 3 OL guys that I would consider: Stefen Wisniewski, Mike Pouncey, and John Moffitt, Might be willing to take one of htese guys instead of a defensive need pick.

Roy P

01-30-2011, 02:24 PM

But I will play with what is here:

11 Aldon Smith, DE/OLB, Missouri top 34 OLB available
42 Quinton Carter, S, Oklahoma
73 Brooks Reed, DE/OLB, Arizona
104 Greg Salas, WR, Hawaii

My picks...

11. DE Cameron Heyward Ohio St 6'5" 288 4.92
42. CB Jimmy Smith Colorado 6'2" 205 4.49
73. DT Jarvis Jenkins Clemson 6'3" 310 4.98
104. CB Davon House New Mexico St 6'0" 190 4.46
S Chris Conte California 6'3" 212 4.54
OLB Wayne Daniels TCU 6'2" 250 4.79
OLB Markus White Florida St. 6'4" 262 4.69
ILB Scott Lutrus Connecticut 6'3" 240 4.68

Just guessing what's available in rounds 5-FA

painekiller

01-31-2011, 04:31 AM

11 Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 5" 260
42 DeAndre McDaniel S Clemson 6' 1" 190
73 Casey Matthews ILB Oregon 6' 2" 235
104 Joe Lefeged CB Rutgers 6' 1" 205
135 Ronald Johnson WR USC 6' 0" 190
173 Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech 6' 1" 215
203 Brennan Olander DT Oregon State 6' 1" 276

I have a couple of questions after the Senior Bowl week of practice and the game.

1) How high will Phil Taylor NT Baylor rise before the draft? Is he going to be like Raji and jump into the 1st round? Raji went #9 to Green Bay in 09.

2) Is Von Miller overhyped?

3) Should we go NT in the 1st and then take Reed later to play OLB?

4) Is our middle of the OL OK if we pass on guys like Wisniewski, Pouncey, Hudson, Moffitt or Danny Watkins Baylor? Anyone of those guys would improve our interior OL in the long run. But how else are we going to get defensive guys that we need?

Is this mock to far of a reach?
17 Brandon Harris* CB Miami 5' 11" 195 ***trade down with NE
42 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 6' 4" 355
60 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297 ***for the trade down from NE
73 Sam Acho DE Texas 6' 3" 258
104 Brooks Reed OLB/DE Arizona 6'3" 255
135 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
173 Tejay Johnson S TCU 6' 1" 210
203 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215

We would need to sign a FA or two from some other team.

Roy P

01-31-2011, 09:40 AM

I have a couple of questions after the Senior Bowl week of practice and the game.

1) How high will Phil Taylor NT Baylor rise before the draft? Is he going to be like Raji and jump into the 1st round? Raji went #9 to Green Bay in 09.

2) Is Von Miller overhyped?

3) Should we go NT in the 1st and then take Reed later to play OLB?

4) Is our middle of the OL OK if we pass on guys like Wisniewski, Pouncey, Hudson, Moffitt or Danny Watkins Baylor? Anyone of those guys would improve our interior OL in the long run. But how else are we going to get defensive guys that we need?

Is this mock to far of a reach?
17 Brandon Harris* CB Miami 5' 11" 195 ***trade down with NE
42 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 6' 4" 355
60 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297 ***for the trade down from NE
73 Sam Acho DE Texas 6' 3" 258
104 Brooks Reed OLB/DE Arizona 6'3" 255
135 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
173 Tejay Johnson S TCU 6' 1" 210
203 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215

We would need to sign a FA or two from some other team.

1. I look at Phil Taylor and think about a few recent drafts...
Dan Williams - #26
Ron Brace - #40
Torell Troup - #41
Linval Joseph - #46
Terrence Cody - #57
Terrence Knighton - #72
Pat Sims - #26
----There isn't a BJ Raji type player in this draft. I'm hopeful that Jarvis Jenkins will be around in the 3rd round sort of like Roy Miller was, but we may just have Sean Cody as our NT this year unless we sign a Free Agent.

2. Yes, he is a bit overhyped. I liked Brian Orapko better than Miller and he was drafted #13.

3. No to the first and yes to the second. A CB would be my preference in the 1st, but only if they are a stud. Otherwise, a trade down and selecting a 5-Tech may be best.

4. I think a decent OL prospect can be selected in the 4th or possibly 5th round. John Moffit or Tim Barnes?

Nconroe

01-31-2011, 10:13 AM

Hadn't validated this, but heard one of TV guys say Green Bay DL has 4 guys of 320lbs they sometimes rush together. That is a big DL. Led by Raji now.

Roy P

01-31-2011, 05:49 PM

Hadn't validated this, but heard one of TV guys say Green Bay DL has 4 guys of 320lbs they sometimes rush together. That is a big DL. Led by Raji now.

Cullen Jenkins will be a Free Agent....and I want HIM!

Blitzwood

01-31-2011, 09:27 PM

If the draft were tomorrow using PK's trade:

17. J.J. Watt* 3-4DE Wisconsin 6' 6" 285
42. Jabaal Sheard OLB3-4 Pittsburgh 6' 4" 260
60. Bruce Carter OLB UNC 6' 3" 230
73. Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 6' 0" 190
104. Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
135. Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa 6' 4" 218
173. Niles Paul WR Nebraska 6' 1" 215
203. Chris Culliver S South Carolina 6' 0" 190

Not my dream draft, but not too bad. I do think I have around 6 players that will see the field, if not start, unlike previous drafts.

painekiller

02-01-2011, 02:55 PM

post senior bowl mock

11 Von Miller OLB Texas A&M 6' 3" 240
42 Quinton Carter S Oklahoma 6' 1" 195
73 Lawrence Guy* DT Arizona State 6' 5" 300
104 Johnny Patrick CB Louisville 5' 11" 190
135 Brian Rolle ILB Ohio State 5' 11" 220
173 Niles Paul WR Nebraska 6' 1" 215
203 Greg McElroy QB Alabama 6' 3" 220

I could be happy if this were the actual draft.

My attempt

11 Von Miller OLB Texas A&M 6' 3" 240
42 Quinton Carter S Oklahoma 6' 1" 195
73 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297
104 Sione Fua DT Stanford 6' 2" 307
135 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
173 Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa 6' 4" 218
203 Roy Helu Jr. RB Nebraska 6' 0" 215

1st a pure pass rusher that is better than we have had to team with Barwin, two solid safeties to groom, a solid middle of the offensive line type, a solid force in the middle of the DL (not a push the pocket type but a plugger), a good developmental backup type QB, and a very nice 3rd RB option.

Blitzwood

02-01-2011, 10:33 PM

If we sign Nnamdi Asomugha(I can dream), we're gonna break the bank and therefore not be able to resign a few notable FA this offseason, mainly Pollard and Jacoby Jones, who'll be looking to get paid.
So now we have new holes to fill.

11. Justin Houston* DE Georgia 6' 3" 259
42. Quinton Carter S Oklahoma 6' 1" 195 (Pollards replacement)
73. Casey Matthews ILB Oregon 6' 2" 235
104. Danny Watkins OT Baylor 6' 4" 310
135. Greg Little WR UNC 6' 3" 220 (JJ replacement)
173. Mike Blanc DE3-4 Auburn 6' 4" 290
203. Dane Sanzenbacher WR Ohio State 5' 11" 185

painekiller

02-09-2011, 01:04 AM

11 Von Miller OLB Texas A&M 6' 3" 240
42 Drake Nevis DT LSU 6' 1" 300
73 Tyler Sash* S Iowa 6' 1" 210
104 Darvin Adams* WR Auburn 6' 3" 185
135 Caleb Schlauderaff OG Utah 6' 4" 300
173 Chris White ILB Mississippi State 6' 4" 245
203 Andrew Rich CB BYU 6' 3" 215

My cherry pick:

11 Von Miller OLB Texas A&M 6' 3" 240
42 Jimmy Smith CB Colorado 6' 2" 205
73 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297
104 Sione Fua DT Stanford 6' 2" 307
135 Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
173 Roy Helu Jr. RB Nebraska 6' 0" 215
203 Brooks Reed DE Arizona 6' 3" 255

A fun trade down that will never happen

11 traded to NE for #28 and #33

28 Rahim Moore* S UCLA 6' 1" 195
33 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 6' 4" 355
42 DeAndre McDaniel S Clemson 6' 1" 190

Of course the later picks would change, but this would give you some safety talent to develop and a NT with size and wiggle.

painekiller

02-09-2011, 03:46 PM

11 Aldon Smith Missouri OLB34
A top-flite conversion project for Wade Phillips' 3-4 scheme, Smith played DE for Mizzou -- at 6'5" and 260 lbs, if he displays the ability to play on 2 feet and cover the flanks, the Texans' defense will have made great strides (because we already know he can rush the passer). This is the first step in rebuilding Houston's front seven, because if you don't have OLB's, you don't have a 3-4. - Long Ball

42 Christian Ballard Iowa DE34
Ballard was the 2nd best pass-rusher in the Senior Bowl to Cameron Jordan and plays the game with a tenacity and passion not often seen today. After Smith (OLB34) in the 1st round, this is the next building block in Houston's conversion to a 3-4 defense. The Texans' current roster only has 2 candidates to play DE in a 3-4: Mario Williams and Antonio Smith. Ballard compliments this duo nicely and provides an excellent rotation pattern for the 3-man line. - Long Ball

73 Robert Sands West Virginia FS 6-4 215
104 Wayne Daniels TCU OLB34
141 Clint Boling Georgia OG
172 Mario Butler Georgia Tech CB
202 Deunta Williams North Carolina SS

Williams in the 7th? not sure about that.

My cherry pick:

11 Aldon Smith Missouri OLB34
42 Phil Taylor Baylor DT34
73 Tyler Sash Iowa SS
104 Rahim Moore UCLA FS
141 Jalil Brown Colorado CB
172 Anthony Gray Southern Miss DT34
202 Deunta Williams North Carolina SS

Don't think it will go down this way, but a guy can dream about some heavy beef for the NT position.

Nconroe

02-10-2011, 03:42 PM

right today, I like your last cherry pick.

NBT

02-13-2011, 09:22 PM

PK, Drake Nevis would have to put a piece of lead in his shorts to get to 300 lbs., I think. Last I read he was about 287.

Blitzwood

02-13-2011, 10:08 PM

My takes:
**- pick in exchange for cash

11 Justin Houston* OLB Georgia 6' 3" 259
42 Jurrell Casey* DT/NT USC 6' 1" 295
73 Christian Ballard 3-4DE Iowa 6' 5" 297
104 Nate Irving ILB North Carolina State 6' 1" 235
**117** Jerrard Tarrant* FS/RS Georgia Tech 6' 0" 204
141 Dwayne Harris WR East Carolina 6' 0" 205
172 Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175
202 Eddie Jones DE Texas 6' 3" 260

painekiller

02-13-2011, 11:39 PM

PK, Drake Nevis would have to put a piece of lead in his shorts to get to 300 lbs., I think. Last I read he was about 287.

You do realize the first Mock is the websites own mock, not me picking a player, and second they are the ones who list the players weights, and draftsite.com is guessing at the weight of most of these guys early in the season, also they have not updated these know weights ie Senior Bowl and Shrine Game.

painekiller

02-19-2011, 09:10 PM

here is the latest

11 Von Miller OLB Texas A&M 6' 3" 240
43 Drake Nevis DT LSU 6' 1" 300
73 Tyler Sash* S Iowa 6' 1" 210
104 Darvin Adams* WR Auburn 6' 3" 185
135 Caleb Schlauderaff OG Utah 6' 4" 300
173 Chris White ILB Mississippi State 6' 4" 245
203 Andrew Rich CB BYU 6' 3" 215

another view

17 Justin Houston* OLB Georgia 6' 3" 259
43 Jimmy Smith CB Colorado 6' 2" 205
60 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297
73 Tyler Sash* S Iowa 6' 1" 210
104 Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 2" 330
135 Niles Paul WR Nebraska 6' 1" 215
173 Jeron Johnson S Boise State 5' 11" 194
203 Wayne Daniels OLB TCU 6' 2" 250

Blitzwood

02-20-2011, 01:39 PM

I see us drafting Cam Newton for the Dolphins at 11, which gets us 15 and 79, and 143.

15. J.J. Watt* 3-4DE Wisconsin 6' 6" 285
43. Sam Acho DE Texas 6' 3" 258
73. Curtis Brown CB/FS Texas 6' 1" 185
79. Bruce Carter OLB UNC 6' 3" 230
104. Nate Irving ILB North Carolina State 6' 1" 235
135. Terrance Toliver WR LSU 6' 5" 206
143. Terrell McClain DT South Florida 6' 2" 302
173. Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175
203. Derrick Locke RB Kentucky 5' 9" 190

painekiller

02-20-2011, 01:58 PM

Blitzwood

02-20-2011, 09:57 PM

Like the trade, like Watts, but he is not a starter on this team unless they move Mario or Antonio, IMO.

Thanks, I based it on the Joe Flacco trade we did a while back. I like Watts opposite Mario, but with Antonio(or whomever) coming off the bench to keep the pass rush fresh and the corners bottled up. I'm pretty high on Watts as a 3-4 DE in this draft, as well as Drake Nevis. I love the high motor these guys displayed every game. I'm not that high on Antonio Smith, I thought he played very undisciplined last year, caused alot of unnecessary penalties , the injury to Barwin, the hot and cold play, and then the spat with Cushing on the field left me thinking we could do better. I know he came here because of Frank Bush, maybe he might want to follow him wherever he ends up, IMO.
This draft is loaded with DE's and OLB's.

painekiller

02-20-2011, 11:02 PM

Thanks, I based it on the Joe Flacco trade we did a while back. I like Watts opposite Mario, but with Antonio(or whomever) coming off the bench to keep the pass rush fresh and the corners bottled up. I'm pretty high on Watts as a 3-4 DE in this draft, as well as Drake Nevis. I love the high motor these guys displayed every game. I'm not that high on Antonio Smith, I thought he played very undisciplined last year, caused alot of unnecessary penalties , the injury to Barwin, the hot and cold play, and then the spat with Cushing on the field left me thinking we could do better. I know he came here because of Frank Bush, maybe he might want to follow him wherever he ends up, IMO.
This draft is loaded with DE's and OLB's.

FYI, Bush just ended up in Tennessee as a the LB coach.

As for Smith, and he was also our most consistent pass rusher all season.

Blitzwood

02-21-2011, 04:59 PM

FYI, Bush just ended up in Tennessee as a the LB coach.

As for Smith, and he was also our most consistent pass rusher all season.

I'm glad Bush is in Tennessee, maybe he'll screw up their defense like he did ours...we can only hope. The Titans should give us 2 easy wins with a rookie head coach and most likely a rookie QB next year, but these are the Texans we're talking about,(see Sanchez and Ryan in their debut) let's just wait and see.

As for Smith being the most consistent pass rusher all season, whatever that means, doesn't really hold water.

A. Smith- 38 TKL 4 SK
M.Williams- 28 TKL 8.5 SK
M.Anderson- 21 TKL 4 SK
A. Okoye- 44 TKL 4 SK

Mario still had twice as many as any other pass rusher on the team, and he missed a game and a half, and Anderson only played 11 games for us and still equaled Smith's season total of 4, an average of 1 sack every 4 games...

With such a deep DE and OLB class this year, we really have a golden opportunity to solidify those position(s) for the next decade or so.

In other news, the Texans released 5 players 2/18 including Eugene Wilson FS, and Andre Davis WR.

from houstontexans.com site

Texans Release 5
Posted by drewdougherty on February 18, 2011 – 3:50 pm

The Texans have released the following players: FS Eugene Wilson, WR André Davis, LB Isaiah Greenhouse, LB Darnell Bing and DT DeMario Pressley.
Wilson started 13 games at free safety in 2010, finishing with 56 tackles. He joined the club before the 2008 season, after playing the first five years of his career with the Patriots.

Tags: Andre Davis, Darnell Bing, DeMario Pressley, Eugene Wilson, Isaiah Greenhouse
Posted in Drew Dougherty | 3 Comments »

painekiller

02-21-2011, 08:17 PM

Wasn't a complete season, but here is an article thru week 10 in Football Outsiders (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2010/2010-hits-and-hurries)

In week 10 Mario (22.5) was 3rd in Hurries, and Smith (21) was 9th.
As for QB hits Smith (11) was tied for 5th, Mario had 10 and was tied for 7th.

I know I've seen the final number on another web site, but can not find them right now, iirc Smith ended up leading the team in hurries and hits. These things can be as frustrating to a QB as a sack, if your name is not Brady.

Nconroe

02-22-2011, 09:25 AM

I agree slightly that Antonio Smith had some very costly negative plays, penalties, for us, so he needs to play a little smarter.

But, he did seem to play with more fire and emotion than a lot of guys on the plus side. Hopefully he can be more consistent and play well for us in future.

painekiller

02-23-2011, 01:57 PM

11 Aldon Smith Missouri OLB34 6-5 260
Aldon Smith has been moving up the Big Board and the athletic pass-rusher from Mizzou has to prove he can make the conversion to an all-around OLB in Wade Phillips 3-4 alignment. He did play on two feet for the Tigers, most often rushing the passer. Training in coverage responsibilities will be the next step in his progression. At 6'5" and 260 lbs, he immediately adds a presence to the flanks. If a team doesn't have OLB's, there is no point in running a 3-4! - Long Ball

42 Christian Ballard Iowa DE34 6-4 288
The front 7 conversion project of Wade's 3-4 continues - Ballard was the 2nd best pass-rusher in the Senior Bowl to Cameron Jordan and plays the game with a tenacity and passion not often seen today. After Smith (OLB34) in the 1st round, this is the next building block in Houston's conversion to a 3-4 defense. The Texans' current roster only has 2 candidates to play DE in a 3-4: Mario Williams and Antonio Smith. Ballard compliments this duo nicely and provides an excellent rotation pattern for the 3-man line. - Long Ball

73 Robert Sands West Virginia FS
104 Cliff Matthews South Carolina OLB34
141 Will Rackley Lehigh OG
172 Justin Rogers Richmond CB
202 Harold Ayodele Emporia State DT34

I don't see this as a Texans draft, especially towards the end.

painekiller

02-25-2011, 01:17 PM

11 Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 5" 260
42 Drake Nevis DT LSU 6' 1" 300
73 Tyler Sash* S Iowa 6' 1" 210
104 Darvin Adams* WR Auburn 6' 3" 185
135 Caleb Schlauderaff OG Utah 6' 4" 300
173 Chris White ILB Mississippi State 6' 4" 245
202 Henry Hynoski* FB Pittsburgh 6' 2" 260

only two changes were made, the top pick and the last pick. I don't think FB is on our radar with a probowl FB on the roster. Also I do not see McNair giving a huge contract to a guy with this many question marks.

Blitzwood

02-26-2011, 12:31 PM

11 Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 5" 260
42 Drake Nevis DT LSU 6' 1" 300

Those two players are my ideal selections at their respected draft positions.

Drafttek has Marcell Dareus still available:eek: on their mock when we select Aldon Smith, but I don't think there's any chance that he gets by us if he's still there...

Nconroe

02-28-2011, 12:08 AM

Are ya'll watching the combine some on NFL network.

The next few days should be defense turn.

This articles covers some pass rushers Texans might target, DE or OLB
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-3/Pass-rushers-aplenty-at-2011-combine/c1aabb36-88c9-453e-8a0c-6483ea6968ca

and a nice interview with Tim Bulman on his anticipated role as DE in new 3-4
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-3/Quotes-DE-Tim-Bulman-1-on-1/859f5fab-05ed-4379-abb9-635329eef817

painekiller

02-28-2011, 04:20 PM

11 Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 5" 260
42 Titus Young WR Boise State 5' 11" 170
73 Jonathan Baldwin* WR Pittsburgh 6' 5" 225
104 Colin McCarthy OLB Miami 6' 3" 240
135 Mario Butler CB Georgia Tech 6' 1" 185
173 Colin Baxter OC Arizona 6' 4" 295
202 Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech 6' 1" 215

one of the worse mocks I have seen, 4 offensive picks when we have the worse defense in the league.

11 J.J. Watt* DE Wisconsin 6' 6" 285 or Stephen Paea DE/NT? Oregon State 6' 1" 303 (I prefer to trade down here)
42 Dontay Moch OLB Nevada 6' 1" 245
73 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 297
104 Sione Fua DT Stanford 6' 2" 307
135 Shiloh Keo S Idaho 5' 11" 210
173 Jalil Brown CB Colorado 6' 1" 205
202 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215

Roy P

03-01-2011, 12:11 AM

Are ya'll watching the combine some on NFL network.

Yes. I am recording it so I can watch and re-watch until I've nitpicked it to death. :D

painekiller

03-02-2011, 09:55 PM

here is there take on the Texans 5 picks in this mock:

#11 Houston Texans: Robert Quinn, DE/OLB, North Carolina
With the shift to Wade Phillips' 3-4, Houston will need a nose tackle to pair with ends Mario Williams and Antonio Smith. DeMeco Ryans and Brian Cushing would play inside linebacker, while the outside pass rushers would be Connor Barwin and... umm... Robert Quinn.

Quinn missed the 2010 season because the NCAA is ridiculously stupid, hypocritical and tyrannical. If he had played, he'd probably be a consensus top-five prospect, so Houston is getting major value with this selection.

Other 2011 NFL Draft Possibilities:

1. Aldon Smith, DE/OLB - Other rush linebacker options. If Robert Quinn is off the board, Aldon Smith could be Houston's new pass-rusher.

2. Cameron Jordan or J.J. Watt, DE/DT - The Texans want an upgrade at five technique, and either Cameron Jordan or J.J. Watt could be the best player on Houston's board.

3. Prince Amukamara, CB - Prince Amukamara could be the pick if he's available. The Texans are looking for a top-flight cornerback to pair with Kareem Jackson.

#42 Houston Texans: Brandon Harris, CB, Miami
The Texans will be targeting a rush linebacker and a cornerback with their top two selections in the 2011 NFL Draft. Robert Quinn filled the former need with the 11th pick in the first round. Brandon Harris, the top player available, would satisfy the latter.

Despite taking Kareem Jackson in the first round of last year's draft, Houston still must address the cornerback position. Kareem Jackson has to improve, while Glover Quin would be better served as the nickel or free safety.

#73 Houston Texans: Jerrell Powe, NT, Ole Miss
With Amobi Okoye as their only option, the Texans are in the market for a nose tackle. Jerrell Powe is certainly worth taking in the third round.

#104 Houston Texans: Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
The Texans desperately need to address both safety positions this offseason. Free safety is more dire, as Eugene Wilson was recently released.

#135 Houston Texans: Joe Lefeged, S, Rutgers
Bernard Pollard is great in run support, but he's a huge liability in coverage. That's not a good thing if you're trying to beat Peyton Manning twice a year.

How can I complain about Quinn, Harris, Powe, Williams and Lefeged, my only issue I don't have many of these guys available when we take them in this mock.

With no starting safeties on the team any more, safeties has become a huge need with this team. Quinn and Nolan maybe the safeties next year, and I can be ok with that, but we need a talent influx and numbers added to the DBs on this team.

Blitzwood

03-03-2011, 11:04 PM

With no starting safeties on the team any more, safeties has become a huge need with this team. Quinn and Nolan maybe the safeties next year, and I can be ok with that, but we need a talent influx and numbers added to the DBs on this team.

I thought they would try out S. McManis at FS, guess they still could.

My take using walters

11. Robert Quinn, OLB, UNC
42. Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami
73. Ahmad Black, S, Florida
104. Nate Irving, ILB, N.C. State
135. Ugo Chinasa, 3-4DE, Oklahoma State
173. Chykie Brown, CB, Texas

painekiller

03-04-2011, 01:22 AM

here is there take on the Texans 5 picks in this mock:

How can I complain about Quinn, Harris, Powe, Williams and Lefeged, my only issue I don't have many of these guys available when we take them in this mock.

With no starting safeties on the team any more, safeties has become a huge need with this team. Quinn and Nolan maybe the safeties next year, and I can be ok with that, but we need a talent influx and numbers added to the DBs on this team.

They added a 6th round
Houston Texans: Steven Friday, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech
I'd be pretty surprised if the Texans didn't draft multiple rush linebackers this April for their new 3-4 defense.

As for my cherry pick?

11 Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor why not? they have him at 21, and in this draft the difference between 11 and 27 is not so much in terms of talent, just few superstars.
42 Brooks Reed, DE/OLB, Arizona
73 Dontay Moch, DE/OLB, Nevada
104 Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
135 Kenrick Ellis, NT, Hampton
173 Jalil Brown, CB, Colorado

painekiller

03-04-2011, 01:52 AM

11 Aldon Smith** DE Missouri 6' 4.2" 263
42 Titus Young WR Boise State 5' 11.3" 174
73 Rashad Carmichael CB Virginia Tech 5' 10" 192
104 Robert Sands* S West Virginia 6' 4.3" 217
135 Jerrell Powe DT Mississippi 6' 1.6" 335
173 Josh Bynes ILB Auburn 6' 2" 239
202 James Brewer OT Indiana 6' 6.2" 323

I don't see this GM/HC going with more underage starters, Smith is a red shirt sophomore. He has the measurables, but ....

11 Brandon Harris* CB Miami 5' 9.4" 191
42 Dontay Moch DE Nevada 6' 1.3" 248
73 Tyler Sash* S Iowa 6' 0" 211
104 Brooks Reed DE Arizona 6' 2.4" 263
135 Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia 6' 1.3" 198
173 Greg Salas WR Hawaii 6' 1.1" 210
202 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215

NBT

03-04-2011, 02:04 PM

Dontae Moch put up some huge numbers at the Combine, but does he have the football savy to go along with it?

Deunta Williams ran a dissapointing 4.64/40.

painekiller

03-04-2011, 03:11 PM

Dontae Moch put up some huge numbers at the Combine, but does he have the football savy to go along with it?

Deunta Williams ran a dissapointing 4.64/40.

One good thing about Moch, Wade Phillips worked with him at the Shriners game, so Wade will have insight into the kid, if Wade likes the kid we draft him, if Wade doesn't like the kid he is not drafted here.

Will Moch be a Texan? I can't say but our draft grade will have Wade's fingerprints all over it.

painekiller

03-09-2011, 11:03 PM

11 Robert Quinn North Carolina OLB34

Could the Mighty Quinn really fall this far? Uncle Wade sure hopes so, as the athletic Tar Heel pass-rusher is quite the specimen (should we say "Trophy Prospect") even if he did take last year off. He still has to prove he can make the conversion to an all-around OLB in Phillips' 3-4 alignment. He did move around quite a bit for North Carolina, most often rushing the passer - training in coverage responsibilities will be the next step in his progression. At 6'4" and 265 lbs, he immediately adds a presence to the flanks and if a team doesn't have OLB's, there is no point in running a 3-4.

#42 Johnny Patrick Louisville CB

A slick covering CB that has been moving up the Big Board ranks -- those of you who have not seen many Big East games have not witnessed one of the shining stars for the Louisville Cardinals. Let's face it -- Houston had the worst defensive secondary in the league last year and Patrick adds some much needed "attitude" to the corner position on the Texan defense. It was no secret to AFC South QB's that if they had time, Houston's secondary could be beat. Yes, Uncle Wade still has some needs on the front 7 positions for his 3-4 conversion project, but the secondary could not be ignored and this is excellent value at a position of dire need!

#73 Sione Fua Stanford DT34
#104 Steven Friday Virginia Tech OLB34
#141 Will Rackley Lehigh OG
#172 Jermale Hines Ohio State FS
#202 Nate Williams Washington SS

I'm starting to like the idea of Quinn at 11, he should be gone higher, and he would be out of character for the Texans to draft, but he was a stud on tape.

11 Robert Quinn North Carolina OLB34
42 Jabaal Sheard Pittsburgh OLB34
73 Tyler Sash Iowa SS
104 Chimdi Chekwa Ohio State CB
141 Niles Paul Nebraska WRF
172 Joe Lefeged Rutgers SS
202 Mark LeGree Appalachian State FS

This is a DB loaded draft, and some stud OL guys in the 2nd & 3rd rounds.

Blitzwood

03-12-2011, 12:55 AM

**acquired pick for a future pick.

11. Cameron Jordan DE3-4 Cal 6' 4" 287 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzIVTNoQHHA&feature=related
42. Curtis Brown CB/FS Texas 5' 11.5" 185
73. Chimdi Chekwa CB/FS Ohio State 5' 11.6" 191
104. Steven Friday OLB3-4 Virginia Tech 6'4" 250
135. Nate Irving OLB/ILB North Carolina State 6' 1" 240 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKArcBAlXZY
**150.**Ronald Johnson WR USC 5' 11.2" 199 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owFdFwCCWPo&NR=1&feature=fvwp
173. Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175
202. Markus White DE Florida State 6' 3.4" 266

UDFA J.T. Thomas OLB West Virginia 6'2" 240 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UFAoHD5Zkc

painekiller

03-12-2011, 10:57 PM

11 Aldon Smith** DE Missouri 6' 4.2" 263
42 Drake Nevis DT LSU 6' 0.5" 294
73 Rashad Carmichael CB Virginia Tech 5' 10" 192
104 Jeremy Kerley WR TCU 5' 9.4" 189
135 Joe Lefeged S Rutgers 5' 11.5" 210
173 Josh Bynes ILB Auburn 6' 2" 239
202 Chase Beeler OC Stanford 6' 3" 285

IMO this would be a poor draft.

My cherry

11 Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 4" 265
42 Dontay Moch DE Nevada 6' 1.3" 248
73 Tyler Sash* S Iowa 6' 0" 211
104 Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 5' 11.6" 191
135 Joe Lefeged S Rutgers 5' 11.5" 210
173 Ricky Stanzi QB Iowa 6' 4.3" 223
202 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215

Nconroe

03-14-2011, 12:19 AM

looks like no FA's before the draft, so I could go with the last Cherry Pick. some good choices.

painekiller

03-14-2011, 03:37 PM

looks like no FA's before the draft, so I could go with the last Cherry Pick. some good choices.

Not happy with no big bodies in my cherry pick but there is some speed.

Blitzwood

03-14-2011, 11:03 PM

painekiller

03-15-2011, 01:01 AM

New draft order with comp pick included:

11 Aldon Smith DE Missouri 6' 4.2" 263
42 Brandon Burton CB Utah 5' 11.5" 190
73 Deunta Williams S UNC 6' 2" 205
99 Armon Binns WR Cincinnati 6' 3" 209
108 Sione Fua DT Stanford 6' 1.4" 308
143 Justin Boren OG Ohio State 6' 2.7" 309
186 Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech 6' 0.6" 217
219 Sean Bedford OC Georgia Tech 6' 1" 285

My take:

11 Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 4" 265
42 Quinton Carter S Oklahoma 6' 0.5" 208
73 Jarvis Jenkins DT/NT Clemson 6' 4" 310
99 Armon Binns WR Cincinnati 6' 3" 209
108 Terrell McClain DT/DE3-4 South Florida 6' 1.5" 297
143 Ronald Johnson WR USC 5' 11.2" 199
186 Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 5' 11.6" 191
219 Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175

On another note, what do ya'll think about trying Dorin Dickerson out at S? He might see the field faster than if he was to stay at 3rd string WR. And we know he has 4.4 speed......just a thought.

No to Dickerson moving to defense, when was the last successful move of an offensive player to defense in the NFL? I really don't remember, not being a wise a$$.

As for a new cherry pick

11 Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 4" 265
42 Quinton Carter S Oklahoma 6' 0.5" 208
73 Stefen Wisniewski OG Penn State 6' 3" 313
99 Sione Fua DT Stanford 6' 1.4" 308
108 Joe Lefeged S Rutgers 5' 11.5" 210
143 Kendrick Ellis DT Hampton 6' 4.7" 346
186 Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 5' 11.6" 191
219 Mark LeGree S Appalachian State 5' 11.4" 210

Not my best effort, to many safeties. It is a position of need but no way 3 rookies safeties make the team. I liked Blitzwood mock, so I kept a few of his picks.

Blitzwood

03-15-2011, 09:10 AM

No to Dickerson moving to defense, when was the last successful move of an offensive player to defense in the NFL? I really don't remember, not being a wise a$$.

I know Kubiak is no Bill Bellichick, but
memba him? I saw a show on NFL network the other day
about the 2004 Patriots that gave me the idea.

http://www.patriotsgab.com/2007/11/27/wr-brown-activated/

The New England Patriots on Tuesday activated wide receiver Troy Brown from the physically unable to perform (PUP) list, reviving the career of one of the most versatile players from the team’s three Super Bowl victories. He had been placed on the PUP list on August 28; he resumed practicing with the team on November 12, giving the Patriots until 4 PM EST Tuesday (today) to either activate, release or put him on injured reserve.

Brown, an 8th-round selection in the 1993 draft, has spent his entire career with the Patriots; as the longest-tenured member of the team, he has 557 career receptions (1st on franchise history) and 6,366 receiving yards (2nd all-time). He is also the team’s all-time leading punt returner with 246 returns for 2,570 yards; his 3 punt returns for touchdowns ties Irving Fryar for the team record.

During the 2004 season, Patriots head coach Bill Bellichick put Brown into a depleted secondary at cornerback; the move paid dividends as he responded with 14 tackles, 3 interceptions and 3 fumbles recovered. Brown also played defense in 2006, although on a more limited basis.

painekiller

03-15-2011, 03:05 PM

I know Kubiak is no Bill Bellichick, but
memba him? I saw a show on NFL network the other day
about the 2004 Patriots that gave me the idea.

http://www.patriotsgab.com/2007/11/27/wr-brown-activated/

The New England Patriots on Tuesday activated wide receiver Troy Brown from the physically unable to perform (PUP) list, reviving the career of one of the most versatile players from the team’s three Super Bowl victories. He had been placed on the PUP list on August 28; he resumed practicing with the team on November 12, giving the Patriots until 4 PM EST Tuesday (today) to either activate, release or put him on injured reserve.

Brown, an 8th-round selection in the 1993 draft, has spent his entire career with the Patriots; as the longest-tenured member of the team, he has 557 career receptions (1st on franchise history) and 6,366 receiving yards (2nd all-time). He is also the team’s all-time leading punt returner with 246 returns for 2,570 yards; his 3 punt returns for touchdowns ties Irving Fryar for the team record.

During the 2004 season, Patriots head coach Bill Bellichick put Brown into a depleted secondary at cornerback; the move paid dividends as he responded with 14 tackles, 3 interceptions and 3 fumbles recovered. Brown also played defense in 2006, although on a more limited basis.

Thanks, I had forgotten this one. But I will also point out Brown was a seasoned veteran WR who understood route trees, offensive game plans and such, this is knowledge that Dickerson is still learning.

Brown was a solid contributor before the move and Dickerson is a bottom of the roster guy.

So I still say no way he is converted.

Blitzwood

03-16-2011, 08:28 PM

11. Robert Quinn, DE/OLB, North Carolina
42. Brandon Harris, CB, Miami
73. Jerrell Powe, NT, Ole Miss
104. Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
135. Joe Lefeged, S, Rutgers
173. Rick Elmore, DE/OLB, Arizona

my cherry

11. Robert Quinn, DE/OLB, North Carolina
42. Stephen Paea, DT/3-4DE, Oregon State
73. Jake Kirkpatrick, C, TCU
104. Shiloh Keo, SS, Idaho
135. J.T. Thomas, OLB, West Virginia
173. Chris L. Rucker, CB/FS, Michigan State
7th round- James Dockery, CB, Oregon State http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1AyCwj9qNU

Warren

03-16-2011, 09:36 PM

Thanks, I had forgotten this one. But I will also point out Brown was a seasoned veteran WR who understood route trees, offensive game plans and such, this is knowledge that Dickerson is still learning.

Brown was a solid contributor before the move and Dickerson is a bottom of the roster guy.

So I still say no way he is converted.Brown was also a band-aid for the Pats' secondary rather than a permanent conversion to the other side of the ball.

The most successful offense-to-defense convert that I can think of is Nolan Cromwell, who was a QB at Kansas and a Pro Bowl safety for the LA Rams in the 80s. Tony Dungy was a QB at Minnesota and a backup DB for the Steelers in the 70s. Former Nebraska QB Scott Frost hung around for a few years as a safety, but mainly as backup and special teamer. And speaking of Nebraska QBs, who could forget the Texans' Jammal Lord experiment? :p There was an Ohio State RB named Butler By'Not'e who the Broncos drafted in 1994 and converted to CB but he never did much. Former Texas A&M RB Sirr Parker tried to switch to CB in the NFL but wasn't able to catch on.

I don't think they should try to convert Dickerson, especially this year when there's going to be little or no offseason coaching. Even in a more normal year it would be tough to do this because there's no NFL-Europe where he could get offseason reps in game conditions and with free agency there's less incentive to make the extra effort to develop a guy who may leave by the time he's ready to really contribute.

painekiller

03-17-2011, 10:46 AM

11 Robert Quinn North Carolina OLB34
For the 2nd consecutive week, the Mighty Quinn falls to Houston; the athletic Tar Heel pass-rusher is quite the specimen (should we say "Trophy Prospect") even if he did take last year off. He still has to prove he can make the conversion to an all-around OLB in Phillips' 3-4 alignment. He did move around quite a bit for North Carolina, most often rushing the passer - training in coverage responsibilities will be the next step in his progression. At 6'4" and 265 lbs, he immediately adds a presence to the flanks and if a team doesn't have OLB's, there is no point in running a 3-4. - Long Ball

42 Cameron Heyward Ohio State DE34
The front 7 conversion project of Wade's 3-4 continues - Cameron Heyward (son of "Iron-Head") has dropped in the rankings after receiving a pre-season 1st round grade based on his junior season. Although the Buckeye's senior year was not as dominant, he is good value in the 2nd round. After Quinn (OLB34) in the 1st round, this is the next building block in Houston's conversion to a 3-4 defense. The Texans' current roster only has 2 candidates to play DE in a 3-4: Mario Williams and Antonio Smith. Heyward compliments this duo nicely and provides an excellent rotation pattern for the 3-man line. - Long Ball

73 Jerrell Powe Mississippi DT34
104 Steven Friday Virginia Tech OLB34
141 DeMarcus Love Arkansas OG
172 Chris L. Rucker Michigan State CB
202 Nate Williams Washington SS

I like the start of this one but the DBs were ignored, and this is a deep draft for DBs.

painekiller

03-25-2011, 06:59 PM

Well it looks like we get the #253 pick, not many last picks of the draft have an impact on the team, so I say draft a punter, preferably Chas Henry Florida if he is not already gone.

My 2nd choice is Derek Epperson, Baylor a big kid with a big leg 6-3 235. Averaged over 44 yds each of the last two years.

painekiller

03-29-2011, 08:46 PM

Updated with the supplemental picks.

11 Aldon Smith** DE Missouri 6' 4.2" 263
42 Brandon Burton* CB Utah 5' 11.5" 190
73 Chris Conte S Cal 6' 0.3" 197
105 Sione Fua DT Stanford 6' 1.4" 308
138 Ross Homan OLB Ohio State 6' 0.6" 240
178 Jason Kelce OC Cincinnati 6' 2.5" 280
213 Josh Nesbitt QB Georgia Tech 6' 1" 217
253 Taiwan Jones* RB Eastern Washington 6' 0" 194

Not my favorite mock, but possible.

11 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 6' 3.2" 334
42 Brooks Reed OLB Arizona 6' 2.4" 263
73 Stefen Wisniewski OC Penn State 6' 3" 313
105 Joe Lefeged S Rutgers 5' 11.5" 210
138 Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 5' 11.6" 191
178 Mark LeGree S Appalachian State 5' 11.4" 210
213 Chas Henry Punter Florida
253 Stephen Burton WR West Texas A&M Sr 6-1 221

painekiller

03-30-2011, 01:16 AM

NBT

03-30-2011, 01:03 PM

That is the trouble with the trade down/up scenarios we see and hear of at this time of year. It is all a crapshoot because we really don't know what the other teams are thinking.

painekiller

04-01-2011, 10:30 PM

11 Aldon Smith** DE Missouri 6' 4.2" 263
42 Marvin Austin DT UNC 6' 1.5" 309
73 Chris Conte S Cal 6' 0.3" 197
105 Casey Matthews ILB Oregon 6' 2" 231
138 Greg Salas WR Hawaii 6' 1.1" 210
178 Jason Kelce OC Cincinnati 6' 2.5" 280
214 Taylor Potts QB Texas Tech 6' 5" 218
254 Malcolm Smith OLB USC 6' 1" 225

I think a few of these guys just don't fit. I know Wade says he tailors to his players, but ....

11 Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 4" 265
**33 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 6' 3.2" 334
42 Quinton Carter S Oklahoma 6' 0.5" 208
73 Colin McCarthy ILB Miami 6' 1.3" 238
105 Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia 6' 1.3" 198
138 Greg Salas WR Hawaii 6' 1.1" 210
178 Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 5' 11.6" 191
214 Taylor Potts QB Texas Tech 6' 5" 218
254 Derek Epperson PT Baylor 6'3" 240

** Trade with New England involving future 1st round pick.

painekiller

04-02-2011, 12:08 PM

11 Houston Texans: Robert Quinn, DE/OLB, North Carolina
With the shift to Wade Phillips' 3-4, Houston will need a nose tackle to pair with ends Mario Williams and Antonio Smith. DeMeco Ryans and Brian Cushing would play inside linebacker, while the outside pass rushers would be Connor Barwin and... umm... Robert Quinn.

Quinn missed the 2010 season because the NCAA is ridiculously stupid, hypocritical and tyrannical. If he had played, he'd probably be a consensus top-five prospect, so Houston is getting major value with this selection.

Other 2011 NFL Draft Possibilities:

1. Cameron Jordan or J.J. Watt, DE/DT - The Texans want an upgrade at five-technique, and either Cameron Jordan or J.J. Watt could be the best player on Houston's board.

2. Aldon Smith, DE/OLB - Another rush linebacker option. If Robert Quinn is off the board, Aldon Smith could be Houston's new pass-rusher.

3. Prince Amukamara, CB - Prince Amukamara could be the pick if he's available. The Texans are looking for a top-flight cornerback to pair with Kareem Jackson.
42 Houston Texans: Stephen Paea, NT, Oregon State
With Amobi Okoye as their only option, the Texans are in the market for a nose tackle.

Stephen Paea isn't as big as some 3-4 teams would like, but he's the prototypical nose tackle for a Wade Phillips defense. The Texans are getting a steal with Paea; the Combine bench press record-holder would be a first-round pick if it weren't for his knee injury.

Pick change; previously Allen Bailey, DE/DT
73 Houston Texans: Johnny Patrick, CB, Louisville
Despite taking Kareem Jackson in the first round of last year's draft, Houston still must address the cornerback position. Jackson has to improve, while Glover Quin would be better served as the nickel or free safety.

Pick change; previously Jerrell Powe, NT
105 Houston Texans: Jaiquawn Jarrett, FS, Temple
The Texans will be moving Glover Quin to free safety. They'll need an alternative option just in case that doesn't pan out.

Pick change; previously Marcus Gilchrist, CB
Houston Texans: Ahmad Black, SS, Florida
Bernard Pollard is great in run support, but he's a huge liability in coverage. That's not a good thing if you're trying to beat Peyton Manning twice a year.

Pick change; previously Joe Lefeged, S
178 Houston Texans: Rick Elmore, DE/OLB, Arizona
I'd be pretty surprised if the Texans didn't draft multiple rush linebackers this April for their new 3-4 defense.

Cherry picking this one is harder to do cause I like this mock. So how about this one?

11 Phil Taylor, NT, Baylor
42 Tyler Sash, SS, Iowa
73 Dontay Moch, DE/OLB, Nevada
105 Deunta Williams, FS, North Carolina
138 Chimdi Chekwa, CB, Ohio State
178 Lance Kendricks, TE, Wisconsin

Just kidding on #178 Justin Trattou, DE/OLB, Florida

Blitzwood

04-11-2011, 10:19 PM

painekiller

04-13-2011, 01:30 PM

11. Da'Quan Bowers* DE Clemson 6' 3.3" 280
42. Titus Young WR Boise State 5' 11.3" 174
73. Tyler Sash S Iowa 6' 0" 211
105. Kelvin Sheppard ILB LSU 6' 1.7" 250
138. Martin Parker DT Richmond 6' 2.1" 303
178. Justin Boren OG Ohio State 6' 2.7" 309
215. Brandon Bair DT Oregon 6' 5.7" 283
256. Brandyn Thompson CB Boise State 5' 9.1" 189

My take.

11. Cameron Jordan DE Cal 6' 4.1" 287
42. Jabaal Sheard DE/OLB Pittsburgh 6' 2.7" 264
73. Marcus Gilchrist CB/S Clemson 5' 10" 195
105. Nate Irving ILB/OLB North Carolina State 6' 1" 240
138. Cliff Matthews DE/OLB South Carolina 6' 3.4" 257
164(*acquired from Baltimore*). Mark LeGree S Appalachian State 5' 11.4" 210
178. Terrance Toliver WR LSU 6' 3.4" 211
215. J.T. Thomas OLB West Virginia 6' 1" 241
256. Loyce Means CB Houston 5'10" 177

My take: no trades

11 Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 4" 265
42 DeAndre McDaniel S Clemson 6' 0.1" 217
73 Devon House CB New Mexico State 6' 0" 180
105 Sione Fua DT Stanford 6' 1.4" 308
138 Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 5' 11.6" 191
178 Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech 6' 0.6" 217
215 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215
256 Eddie Jones OLB Texas 6'3" 265

painekiller

04-13-2011, 03:59 PM

#11Houston Texans: Aldon Smith, DE/OLB, Missouri
The Texans will spend a ton of 2011 NFL Draft picks on personnel for Wade Phillips' new 3-4 defense. Their top three needs are rush linebacker, defensive end (five-technique) and nose tackle. Cornerback also will be addressed, but from what I'm told, Houston has "some concerns" about using this selection on Prince Aumukamara.

The best player available of those three aforementioned positions could arguably be Aldon Smith. Some may think this is a bit too early for Smith, but I couldn't disagree more. It's never too early to draft a potential double-digit sack artist. Pass-rushing defensive ends often go earlier than projected.

Smith missed some action this year, which would explain why he had only 10 TFL and 4.5 sacks. However, he's a freak of nature and pretty much a lock for the top 15. He has drawn comparisons to Jason Pierre-Paul in terms of raw athleticism. The Cowboys have shown interest in him, likening him to DeMarcus Ware. Coincidentally, Ware was chosen with the 11th pick six years ago.

Other 2011 NFL Draft Possibilities:

1. J.J. Watt or Cameron Jordan, DE/DT - The Texans want another five-technique, and they'll consider J.J. Watt and Cameron Jordan.

2. Prince Amukamara, CB - Prince Amukamara could be the pick if he's available. As I said though, the Texans have "some concerns" about spending back-to-back first-round picks on cornerbacks. They appear focused on upgrading the front seven.

Pick change; previously J.J. Watt, DE/DT
#42Houston Texans: Stephen Paea, NT, Oregon State
With Amobi Okoye as their only option, the Texans are in the market for a nose tackle.

Stephen Paea isn't as big as some 3-4 teams would like, but he's the prototypical nose tackle for a Wade Phillips defense. The Texans are getting a steal with Paea; the Combine bench press record-holder would be a first-round pick if it weren't for his knee injury.

#73Houston Texans: Jarvis Jenkins, DE/DT, Clemson
As mentioned in Round 1, the Texans are looking for numerous 3-4 personnel upgrades, including five-technique. Jarvis Jenkins is a second-round prospect who falls here out of circumstance.

Pick change; previously Chris Carter, DE/OLB
#105Houston Texans: Rashad Carmichael, CB, Virginia Tech
Despite taking Kareem Jackson in the first round of last year's draft, Houston still must address the cornerback position. Jackson has to improve, while Glover Quin would be better served as the nickel or free safety.

#138 Houston Texans: Ahmad Black, SS, Florida
Bernard Pollard is great in run support, but he's a huge liability in coverage. That's not a good thing if you're trying to beat Peyton Manning twice a year.
#178 Houston Texans: Jerrard Tarrant, S, Georgia Tech
The Texans will be moving Glover Quin to free safety. They'll need an alternative option just in case that doesn't pan out.

Pick change; previously Eric Hagg, S

Not a lot of changes but some. I wish someone would tell this guys that Okoye is not being considered the NT. But I do like Paea in Wade's system.

NBT

04-15-2011, 11:43 AM

They want to move Quin to FS and they have cut Pollard. So a glaring need is going to be SS as well as CB.

Right now I like OLB Aldon Smith or NT Phil Taylor for our #1 pick. The 11th pick would be too early for either of them, I think. So we trade down........?

Blitzwood

04-16-2011, 10:31 AM

They want to move Quin to FS and they have cut Pollard. So a glaring need is going to be SS as well as CB.

I think the plan is to move Nolan to SS. Quin may or may not move to FS, guess we'll have to wait and see, but I know Wade wants his safety's to be able to cover if need be.

Blitzwood

04-17-2011, 10:18 PM

11 Robert Quinn DE UNC 6' 4" 265
42 Torrey Smith WR Maryland 6' 0.7" 204
73 Drake Nevis DT LSU 6' 0.5" 294
105 Ahmad Black S Florida 5' 9" 190
138 Shareece Wright CB USC 5' 10.7" 185
178 Josh Bynes ILB Auburn 6' 2" 239
215 Jake Kirkpatrick OC TCU 6' 3" 305
256 Josh Nesbitt QB Georgia Tech 6' 1" 217

11 Robert Quinn DE UNC 6' 4" 265
42 Ras-I Dowling CB Virginia 6' 1.3" 198
73 Nate Irving OLB North Carolina State 6' 1" 240
105 Martin Parker DT/NT Richmond 6' 2.1" 303
138 Joseph Barksdale OT LSU 6' 4.6" 325
178 Brandon Bair DT/DE3-4 Oregon 6' 5.7" 283
215 Alex Henery K Nebraska 6' 2" 175
256 Thomas Keiser OLB Stanford 6' 5" 258

Roy P

04-20-2011, 09:48 AM

I was taking a look and seeing who might be available when and came up with this...

CB The Prince - Just because KJ wasn't very good means we SHOULD get another CB, not ignore the position.

NT Phil Taylor - Surprised he lasted until the 2nd round

OLB Chris "X-Files" Carter - A bargain pass-rusher.

WR Randall Cobb - I love this guy and he makes Jacoby expendable.

FS Mark LeGree - Don't understand why more scouts aren't talking this guy up. I want a FS with Ballskills.

DE Brandon Bair - Will need to add weight, but has the frame

C Kris O'Dowd - I will continue to try to replace our current OC.

Roy P

04-20-2011, 10:52 AM

My take.

11. Cameron Jordan DE Cal 6' 4.1" 287
42. Jabaal Sheard DE/OLB Pittsburgh 6' 2.7" 264
73. Marcus Gilchrist CB/S Clemson 5' 10" 195
105. Nate Irving ILB/OLB North Carolina State 6' 1" 240
138. Cliff Matthews DE/OLB South Carolina 6' 3.4" 257
164(*acquired from Baltimore*). Mark LeGree S Appalachian State 5' 11.4" 210
178. Terrance Toliver WR LSU 6' 3.4" 211
215. J.T. Thomas OLB West Virginia 6' 1" 241
256. Loyce Means CB Houston 5'10" 177

Just another thought...
1. Da'Quan Bowers - DE
2. Sam Acho - OLB
3. Devon House - CB
4. Kenrick Ellis - NT
5. Mark LeGree - FS
6. Greg McElroy - QB
7.

Blitzwood

04-20-2011, 09:39 PM

Just another thought...
1. Da'Quan Bowers - DE
2. Sam Acho - OLB
3. Devon House - CB
4. Kenrick Ellis - NT
5. Mark LeGree - FS
6. Greg McElroy - QB
7.

I've been wavering alot on Prince lately, and this is why:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVeWn3bwWTg

I really like the kid and wouldn't mind at all if we took him at 11, but I hope he doesn't have many games for us like he did against Blackmon. But I know Blackmon is a top 3 player next year. There's also alot of good tape out there on Prince. With that said, I think Prince is still getting better and don't see much of a drop off between him and Peterson. I'm a LSU fan and there was plenty of times I scratched my head on some of the gambles and plays Peterson made. FWIW, I actually think there's a better chance of having Quinn fall to us than Prince because of the medical on Quinn.

I liked the Bowers-Acho combo, but with all the reports about his knee and him projecting better in a 4-3, I lean towards Cameron Jordan as my end and Acho/Sheard are are toss ups in my book. I took Sheard because he's got a nastiness about him when he plays. I prefer Burton over House, but I REALLY like Legree. Brandon Bair from Oregon is another player I'm really liking at end if we go CB early. Jaiquawn Jarrett is another player I like in the mid rounds as a safety that isn't afraid to light people up at center field. I read somewhere the Texans weren't too high on Aldon Smith, but I believe there just sending out smoke screens.

I'd be good with:
1. Aldon Smith OLB
2. Sam Acho OLB (Barwin will need to be brought back slowly)
3. Jaiquawn Jarrett S / Brandon Burton CB
4. Nate Irving ILB (Diddo for Demeco)
5. Brandon Bair DE
6. Mark LeGree S
7. Darvin Adams / DJ Davis WR's

painekiller

04-23-2011, 07:53 PM

11 Robert Quinn DE UNC 6' 4" 265
42 Torrey Smith WR Maryland 6' 0.7" 204
73 Drake Nevis DT LSU 6' 0.5" 294
105 Ahmad Black S Florida 5' 9" 190
138 Shareece Wright CB USC 5' 10.7" 185
178 Josh Bynes ILB Auburn 6' 2" 239
215 Jake Kirkpatrick OC TCU 6' 3" 305
256 Josh Nesbitt QB Georgia Tech 6' 1" 217

My take:
11 Robert Quinn* DE UNC 6' 4" 265
42 Dontay Moch DE Nevada 6' 1.3" 248
73 Joe Lefeged S Rutgers 5' 11.5" 210
105 Niles Paul WR Nebraska 6' 0.7" 224
138 Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 5' 11.6" 191
178 Tyrod Taylor QB Virginia Tech 6' 0.6" 217
215 Chas Henry PT Florida 6' 3" 215
254 Mark LeGree S Appalachian State 6'0" 210

Roy P

04-24-2011, 04:44 PM

Updated with the supplemental picks.

11 Phil Taylor DT Baylor 6' 3.2" 334
42 Brooks Reed OLB Arizona 6' 2.4" 263
73 Stefen Wisniewski OC Penn State 6' 3" 313
105 Joe Lefeged S Rutgers 5' 11.5" 210
138 Chimdi Chekwa CB Ohio State 5' 11.6" 191
178 Mark LeGree S Appalachian State 5' 11.4" 210
213 Chas Henry Punter Florida
253 Stephen Burton WR West Texas A&M Sr 6-1 221

I just went through my draft board....

11. OLB Justin Houston Georgia 6'3" 270 4.62
42. OLB Jabaal Sheard Pittsburgh 6'3" 264 4.68
73. DT Kenrick Ellis Hampton 6'5" 346 5.19
105. CB Chimdi Chekwa Ohio St 6'0" 191 4.38
138. S Deunta Williams North Carolina 6'1" 215 4.53
178. CB Jalil Brown Colorado 6'1" 204 4.52
213. CB Chykie Brown Texas 6'0" 185 4.45
253. WR Stephen Burton West Texas A&M 6'1" 221 4.5

I have two pass-rushers in case Barwin doesn't come on strong after injury and learning a new position. I might have 'reached' for Ellis, but need the NT for the 3-4 to work. I was hoping Mark LeGree would drop and thought about taking him over Deunta Williams. Chekwa and Chykie have the speed required to play CB. Jalil Brown has the strength and could possible play FS. Burton could be better than our current #2 WR.

Blitzwood

04-26-2011, 09:53 PM

11. OLB Justin Houston Georgia 6'3" 270 4.62

Fail............drug test ;)

jk.

NBT

04-27-2011, 12:40 PM

If you are going for pass rusher at #11 I think Aldon Smith is the best available player, hands down.

Nconroe

04-27-2011, 04:46 PM

So, I am ready for the draft using RP's evaluations and a few estimates by a few others who study this more than I. I day to go to see what will happen.

I think they should keep everyone on offense for 2011-12 they had last year. They are good enough already, don't change it at all, keep it consistent.

Add some good backups via draft to defense, and get some Free Agents to help defense as starters, including maybe a couple of all-star, pro-bowler guys.

If they want to draft a punter in seventh round but all the rest defense is what I expect. Pass rushers in front seven and ball hawks in secondary, guys with good accomplishments during their college days.