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Keith
04-22-2010, 10:42 PM
My Peter King impression:
I think I think everyone expects the Texans to draft a running back on Friday, probably even as high as the second round.

:p

painekiller
04-23-2010, 12:38 AM
I am hoping they go DT, and then RB. I would hope they go Houston or Joseph in the 2nd. But I don't think the 4 RBs that make sense make it to our 3rd round pick. So I have no clue how to handle this.

popanot
04-23-2010, 05:51 AM
So I have no clue how to handle this.2011 #2 to the Raiders for McFadden? jk

If we don't draft one, I have a feeling there are going to be a few decent RBs on the waiver wire or available for cheap trade after the draft. Maybe Portis, McGahee, LJ, Lynch??? They might not be ideal, but should be able to carry us for a year.

TexanJedi
04-23-2010, 09:36 AM
I want Taylor Mays.

Joe Joe
04-23-2010, 12:23 PM
Price would be a good tackle, but don't think he'll last long. Charles Brown has dropped some as he may not be big enough to play OT...he might make a good ZRB OG. I think the Texans may wait till the 3rd for the RB.

painekiller
04-23-2010, 12:29 PM
The general thinks the pick will be Gerhart or Tate. He hopes Houston falls to our 3rd, but if not he thinks it will be a DT or FS in the 3rd round.

The RBs I see as available in the 2nd that we might be interested in are Toby Gerhart, Ben Tate, Jonathan Dwyer, and Montario Hardesty. Lance Z says that Hardesty has a medical issue and could fall to the 5th. So he maybe off the board.

The internet gurus, who are proving once again to know nothing, have Gerhart and Tate as late 3rds and early 4th rounders. I have thought for weeks that there will be a run on the RBs in the 2nd.

IMO the OL is the issue not the RB, but in the opinion of most experts, few of these guys (OL) are NFL ready, and a RB can run just about anytime, so the Texans will take a player that can contribute today over a guy with a higher and longer upside. Again.

BTW I am not upset with Jackson, I have the 3 CBs after Harden all about the same, some like Coke some like Pepsi and some like Dr Pepper. I am upset with the draft management, it seems we do not have the team that can get moves made. Look at Parchell's in Miami, look at the new team in Denver, look at the Cowboy's, they all move to gather picks and grab their guy.

Let the draft fall to you and you end taking a guy that no one else would have taken for 5 to 8 picks later.

kRocket
04-23-2010, 12:56 PM
Yes, and those trades were going on all around our position so you can't say we didn't have the opportunity.

From Bush's interview they seem to be prepared to take the highest rated player available for a need position. When their RB got taken (possibly Matthews) they reverted to defense.

Joe Joe
04-23-2010, 01:21 PM
Not having two starting CBs was the biggest mistake before the draft. Everyone knew what the Texans wanted making them a target to be jumped in front of if they traded down and there was a CB run. Teams act out of desperation when they put themselves in a position of desperation.

I guess I had pretty much assumed the Texans would take best available rb or cb with their pick for a while. The fact that they got their pick of cbs was nice versus my expectations.

NBT
04-23-2010, 02:54 PM
The general thinks the pick will be Gerhart or Tate. He hopes Houston falls to our 3rd, but if not he thinks it will be a DT or FS in the 3rd round.

The RBs I see as available in the 2nd that we might be interested in are Toby Gerhart, Ben Tate, Jonathan Dwyer, and Montario Hardesty. Lance Z says that Hardesty has a medical issue and could fall to the 5th. So he maybe off the board.

The internet gurus, who are proving once again to know nothing, have Gerhart and Tate as late 3rds and early 4th rounders. I have thought for weeks that there will be a run on the RBs in the 2nd.

IMO the OL is the issue not the RB, but in the opinion of most experts, few of these guys (OL) are NFL ready, and a RB can run just about anytime, so the Texans will take a player that can contribute today over a guy with a higher and longer upside. Again.

BTW I am not upset with Jackson, I have the 3 CBs after Harden all about the same, some like Coke some like Pepsi and some like Dr Pepper. I am upset with the draft management, it seems we do not have the team that can get moves made. Look at Parchell's in Miami, look at the new team in Denver, look at the Cowboy's, they all move to gather picks and grab their guy.

Let the draft fall to you and you end taking a guy that no one else would have taken for 5 to 8 picks later.

Still sour grapes, huh PK? Judging by last year the Texans draft room isn't doing too bad.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 03:21 PM
I'm not really big on any of the RBs in the second so I'd prefer we get our OG or DL in the second.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 04:36 PM
If we had been able to trade down, then getting a CB, RB, AND a Lineman would have been able to be accomplished. Anyway, going forward from here....My Guys....

1 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
2 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
3 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
4 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
5 FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
6 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
7 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
8 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
9 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
10 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
11 FS Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 4.54 Georgia Tech
12 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
13 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee
14 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah 6'0" 207 4.47 IUP
15 FS Major Wright 6'1" 205 4.48 Florida
16 S Darrell Stuckey 5'11" 205 4.49 Kansas
17 DT Cam Thomas 6'4" 331 5.32 North Carolina

Blitzwood
04-23-2010, 05:05 PM
If we don't go RB in the 2nd, I think it'll be FS.

Although if Price/Houston are there, I'd probably have to go with one of them. Shoring up our interior D-line in the mid rounds would be ideal.
Last year we drafted a falling Connor Barwin in the 2nd, even though we had just signed A. Smith.

My guys for the second in no particular order-

Morgan Burnett FS
Nate Allen FS
Roger Saffold OT
Ben Tate RB
Toby Gerhart RB
Lamar Houston DT
Brian Price DT
Golden Tate WR
Taylor Mays FS
Brandon Lafell WR
Linval Joseph DT
John Jerry OG
Major Wright FS
(Maybe a small reach for Jonathan Dwyer)

Roy P
04-23-2010, 05:11 PM
Saffold would have been a good LG in my opinion. I hope the RAMS don't expect to play him at RT.

TexanJedi
04-23-2010, 05:25 PM
Price to Tampa to team up with McCoy. Not bad.

nunusguy
04-23-2010, 05:28 PM
I think the Texans will do what the Jags did last night and overdraft their guy if necessary in the second-round tonight if he's on their Board.
They are on record as saying they waited too long last year to grab a back and they've all but taken out a billboard this year and advertised that corner & RB are their 2 top prioroities. OK then, one down and one to go.

popanot
04-23-2010, 05:30 PM
How about Golden Tate for RB/WR?

popanot
04-23-2010, 05:32 PM
Man, I like McCluster, but not for the Chiefs. They're getting really small.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 05:36 PM
How about Golden Tate for RB/WR?

If we are interested in Golden Tate, then why not just wait for Taylor Price in the 3rd round?

Roy P
04-23-2010, 05:38 PM
T.J. Ward instead of Morgan Burnett, Taylor Mays, or Major Wright? Hmmmmmmm

nunusguy
04-23-2010, 05:41 PM
McCluster is a really dynamic player who's very durable in spite of his size as
he was a starting RB last year in the SEC, and may have been a multiyear starter. Extremely versitile, he can be a running back, a slot receiver, a WR,
punt returner.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 05:43 PM
Arrelious Benn - I thought he was better than Dez Bryant or Demaryius Thomas.

Keith
04-23-2010, 05:43 PM
How about Golden Tate for RB/WR?
Wrong Tate. Get the other one.

Man, I like McCluster, but not for the Chiefs. They're getting really small.
Hmm, Piranhas scouting tendencies duly noted... ;)

Roy P
04-23-2010, 05:47 PM
.My Guys....

1 RB Toby Gerhart 6'1" 235 4.53 Stanford
2 OG John Jerry 6'6" 332 5.15 Mississippi
3 DT Lamarr Houston 6'3" 305 4.88 Texas
4 RB Ben Tate 5'11" 218 4.43 Auburn
5 FS Brandon Ghee 6'0" 191 4.45 Wake Forest
6 OG Rodger Saffold 6'5" 306 5.23 Indiana
7 OG Jon Asamoah 6'4" 308 5.08 Illinois
8 RB Jonathan Dwyer 5'11" 229 4.64 Georgia Tech
9 DT Linval Joseph 6'5" 328 5.12 East Carolina
10 DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 293 4.86 Georgia
11 FS Morgan Burnett 6'1" 210 4.54 Georgia Tech
12 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
13 RB Montario Hardesty 6'0" 215 4.49 Tennessee


So far, so good. Only Saffold has come off my draft board in the 2nd round. The Dolphins select Koa Misi....yet, Sergio Kindle is still on the board. Curioser and curiouser.

TexanJedi
04-23-2010, 05:50 PM
I still hope for Mays or Gerhart.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 05:52 PM
If Kindle fell all the way to our pick, would you want him?

Roy P
04-23-2010, 05:52 PM
Troup comes off my draft board. No idea that he'd come off before Linval Joseph or Cam Thomas. Lamarr Houston and Geno Atkins still on the board too. :confused:

Roy P
04-23-2010, 05:53 PM
If Kindle fell all the way to our pick, would you want him?

Since we already have Cushing and Barwin, not really. Unless you are buying into the idea of running a 3-4 Defense.

Warren
04-23-2010, 05:56 PM
If Kindle fell all the way to our pick, would you want him?It would depend on what the doctors think about his knee and how sold you are on Barwin as an edge rusher.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 06:01 PM
It would depend on what the doctors think about his knee and how sold you are on Barwin as an edge rusher.

I'm sold on Barwin but I'd love a backup with similar skills. I'm not saying he's my pick but he's not someone we expected to be around this late so there's that "value" argument.

There he goes to Baltimore. When your a defender and your name gets announced at the draft by Ray Lewis, you're response is going to be "Yes, Mr. Lewis".

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 06:07 PM
Dang. There goes Houston. All my Horns are going to teams I hate.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 06:14 PM
Troup comes off my draft board. No idea that he'd come off before Linval Joseph or Cam Thomas. Lamarr Houston and Geno Atkins still on the board too. :confused:

Hmmm....now, I'm wondering if I should just get Geno Atkins and hope that Gerhart or Tate are there in the 3rd round.....

nunusguy
04-23-2010, 06:14 PM
I liked Beadles, good fit for our ZBS, but that seems real high for him ?

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 06:15 PM
Five picks away now...

TexanJedi
04-23-2010, 06:17 PM
3 to go, take Mays.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 06:18 PM
Five picks away now...

RB Toby Gerhart
OG John Jerry
RB Ben Tate
FS Brandon Ghee
OG Jon Asamoah
RB Jonathan Dwyer
DT Geno Atkins
FS Morgan Burnett

Hmmm....could we find somebody to trade down with? Anyone??

Joe Joe
04-23-2010, 06:19 PM
RB Toby Gerhart
OG John Jerry
RB Ben Tate
FS Brandon Ghee
OG Jon Asamoah
RB Jonathan Dwyer
DT Geno Atkins
FS Morgan Burnett

Hmmm....could we find somebody to trade down with? Anyone??

Hopefully. Would be nice to get a RB and Asamoah.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 06:24 PM
Taylor Mays and Patrick Willis. Do we play the 49ers? I could see some injuries after that game.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 06:24 PM
We must be on the clock because ESPN just went to commercial...

Well, now we're really on the clock. Chiefs just took Arenas.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 06:27 PM
We must be on the clock because ESPN just went to commercial...

Nope the KC Chiefs....I think they want Sean Lee.

Javier Arenas? Did they just scout the SEC? I thought Brandon Flowers and Javier Arenas were the same player-type. This just confirms that idea.

TexanJedi
04-23-2010, 06:30 PM
Commercial, we must be on the clock.

WMH
04-23-2010, 06:31 PM
We must be on the clock because ESPN just went to commercial...

Well, now we're really on the clock. Chiefs just took Arenas.

and a commercial break :(

Roy P
04-23-2010, 06:33 PM
Commercial, we must be on the clock.

Yes, 1:33
left on the clock

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 06:33 PM
Commercial, we must be on the clock.

Oh, no they didn't! ESPN went BACK to commercial. :mad::mad::mad:

Keith
04-23-2010, 06:33 PM
Trade??

Vikings?

Toby!!

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 06:34 PM
We traded down! Vikings on the clock.

We may have dropped to #62.

And the Vikes are taking Gerhart!

Roy P
04-23-2010, 06:35 PM
Ok! We traded down and Gerhart is going to be their pick :(

We have GOT to PICK BEN TATE with our next pick.

Nconroe
04-23-2010, 06:35 PM
Gonna be Toby, yeah. whoops, ur right. so we swapped 2nds, got their third. 62 and 93 now. and we had 81. I'm ok so far, deep draft right. wonder who we will take that we wanted all along now.

gunslinger57
04-23-2010, 06:36 PM
Good job throwing away Gerhart, Smithiak. Very disappointing.

Keith
04-23-2010, 06:36 PM
Texans get 62 and 93 from Vikes.

Sweet.

kRocket
04-23-2010, 06:39 PM
Texans get 62 and 93 from Vikes.

Sweet.I can live with that!

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 06:39 PM
Texans get 62 and 93 from Vikes.

Sweet.

Hey, that's a decent pick up. I think we're going to draft Dixon.

Joe Joe
04-23-2010, 06:39 PM
Luv it! Plenty of RBs left and get an extra pick to get a OG, FS, or DT.

gunslinger57
04-23-2010, 06:39 PM
Hey, that's a decent pick up. I think we're going to draft Dixon.

Or we'll just pick up another couple of UD FA's.

Sorry I'm bitter now. I'll get over it.

popanot
04-23-2010, 06:40 PM
Sorry, but I'm glad we passed on Gerhart.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 06:40 PM
My revised draft board after trading down...
1 RB Ben Tate
2 OG John Jerry
3 FS Brandon Ghee
4 OG Jon Asamoah
5 RB Jonathan Dwyer
6 DT Geno Atkins

Keith
04-23-2010, 06:42 PM
With their pick of the crop at RB (only McCluster taken after Best?), I wonder if the Texans wanted Mays? They moved down quite a bit, but I'll take that for #93... the depth around here looks okay from where I am sitting.

nunusguy
04-23-2010, 06:42 PM
Good job throwing away Gerhart, Smithiak. Very disappointing.

Rick Smith is a bigot, he obviously didn't want "Mr. TD" to be a white-guy.
On the other hand, it would have been a brilliant commercial move.
Right Bob ? Bob are you there ? Are you awake this evening ? Bob, did you get your meds today ?

jcp
04-23-2010, 06:43 PM
Very nice! Thought they could have done that in the first and got there guy too. Now we can pick up Tate who o liked better anyway and the 2 3's can address the dt and og/fsneeds.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 06:44 PM
Texans get 62 and 93 from Vikes.

Sweet.

The TEXANS trade down!!!! Picking at #62 & we have #93 TOO!!!!!!! I'll take Ben Tate, John Gerry, and Geno Atkins; to go. :)

NBT
04-23-2010, 06:46 PM
Well, I thought Toby Gerhart, the Heisman runnerup would have been the ideal pick. We will just have to wait and see how it works out, but if Gerhart is as good for the Vikes as he was for Stanford, I'm gonna be a helluva I told you so!!! And yeah, I'll probably get over it at some point.

Fonz the Boss
04-23-2010, 06:48 PM
We will draft Tate but not the one everyone is thinking about. We are getting Golden Tate. We need a solid #2 receiver capable of making big plays and makes defenses pay for double teaming Andre. Kevin Walter is not a #2 receiver IMO.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 06:50 PM
Sean Lee off the board for the Cowboys. That's a better pick than Dez Bryant in my opinion.

popanot
04-23-2010, 06:54 PM
We will draft Tate but not the one everyone is thinking about. We are getting Golden Tate. We need a solid #2 receiver capable of making big plays and makes defenses pay for double teaming Andre. Kevin Walter is not a #2 receiver IMO.I just posted something similar awhile ago. Why not use him in a hybrid RB/WR role, ala Reggie Bush?

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 06:55 PM
The guards keep falling. If we can still take Asamoah or Mike Johnson at #62, that's a good move.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 06:58 PM
Nobody's going to run through Ngata and Cody.

NickO
04-23-2010, 07:03 PM
I'm not a big fan of Ray Lewis, but he's the reason B-more can draft questionable guys like Terrance Cody...he won't let him fail. I predict slaps to the back of the head if Lewis sees him with an extra porkchop at dinnertime.

Keith
04-23-2010, 07:03 PM
Another trade

FOR BEN TATE!!!!!

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 07:04 PM
We just traded up and took Ben Tate.

Joe Joe
04-23-2010, 07:04 PM
Got RB..now just need to give him some help.

kRocket
04-23-2010, 07:04 PM
Roy is a happy boy !!!

Nconroe
04-23-2010, 07:04 PM
Excellent move, I like Tate a bunch. Big and fast.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 07:05 PM
My revised draft board after trading down...
1 RB Ben Tate
2 OG John Jerry
3 FS Brandon Ghee
4 OG Jon Asamoah
5 RB Jonathan Dwyer
6 DT Geno Atkins

I'm one happy TEXAN. :)

I want a Jersey, right now!!!! :D

popanot
04-23-2010, 07:05 PM
I'll take that Tate, too. We gave up a 5th.

gunslinger57
04-23-2010, 07:05 PM
Well Tate was my 2nd choice, so I'm happier now. Plus, we didn't give up the 3rd from Minny to move back up.

idymoe
04-23-2010, 07:07 PM
Effectively, the Texans gave up a 5th round pick and acquired a 3rd round pick, while getting the running back they wanted. Very, very nice.

Keith
04-23-2010, 07:10 PM
Effectively, the Texans gave up a 5th round pick and acquired a 3rd round pick, while getting the running back they wanted. Very, very nice.

This.


Is.


Awesomeness.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 07:10 PM
Effectively, the Texans gave up a 5th round pick and acquired a 3rd round pick, while getting the running back they wanted. Very, very nice.

I agree. If Tate was their guy, it was a good move. And obviously somebody else was looking there too because the Browns just traded up for Hardesty, so they probably wanted Tate and figured they had to snatch Hardesty before he went off the board too.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 07:13 PM
Lance Z was saying Hardesty was falling down boards because of injuries, so Ben Tate was THE running back in this draft in terms of value. :D

We also got another 3rd round pick :D

OG John Jerry
FS Brandon Ghee
OG Jon Asamoah
DT Geno Atkins
FS Morgan Burnett
CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim

Blitzwood
04-23-2010, 07:20 PM
Great move, again.

Ben Tate>Ryan Mathews IMO.

I love the fact we got another 3rd.

I liked the idea of getting Golden Tate as our #2 also.

nunusguy
04-23-2010, 07:21 PM
I like it ! Tate & Slaton. Mr. Inside & Mr. Outside.
So what are we doing with our 2 3rd rounders now ?

Blitzwood
04-23-2010, 07:29 PM
So what are we doing with our 2 3rd rounders now ?

A FS like Morgan Burnett, Major Wright, or Reshad Jones.

A LB like J. Chaney, N. Bowman, or Dekoda Watson.

or DT maybe Cam Thomas, or Author Jones.
Possibly Jeff Owens.


Or maybe a Golden Tate if he falls....:)

Fonz the Boss
04-23-2010, 07:33 PM
I remember Ben Tate for getting his helmet knocked off when he got crushed by Eric Berry LoL.... I love the pick. We need a solid one-two punch at RB.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 07:37 PM
or DT , L. Houston,


Or maybe a Golden Tate if he falls....:)

Lamarr and Golden are off the board. Raiders and Seahawks.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 07:45 PM
So what are we doing with our 2 3rd rounders now ?

1 OG John Jerry
2 FS Brandon Ghee
3 OG Jon Asamoah
4 DT Geno Atkins
5 FS Morgan Burnett
6 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
7 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
8 FS Major Wright
9 S Darrell Stuckey
10 DT Cam Thomas
11 CB Kevin Thomas
12 CB Alterraun Verner
13 OC JD Walton

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 07:46 PM
Chiefs just took Asamoah.

NBT
04-23-2010, 07:47 PM
OK, I feel molified now that I know we got an extra 3rd and still got RB Ben Tate. MY hat would be off to Smith if I had one on. Very nice maeuvering. And good to know we can do it when we really want to. Kudos.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 07:48 PM
If we want an OL to play this season, Jerry and Walton are all that's left in my opinion. Anyone else is going to have to be developed.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 07:50 PM
Raiders take Veldheer instead of Bruce Campbell, who many projected the Raiders would select at #8. Just who the Hell is drafting for the Raiders, because it sure ain't Al Davis. ;)

TexanJedi
04-23-2010, 07:50 PM
10 picks to go.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 07:55 PM
Morgan Burnett to the Packers.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 07:57 PM
1 OG John Jerry
2 FS Brandon Ghee
3 DT Geno Atkins
4 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
5 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
6 FS Major Wright
7 S Darrell Stuckey
8 DT Cam Thomas

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 07:58 PM
John Jerry goes to the Dolphins.

Keith
04-23-2010, 07:59 PM
You know, an accurate passer like Colt McCoy might not be a bad pick at 81. It's not like the Texans have a sure thing backing up a previously believed to be brittle QB in Matt Schaub.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 07:59 PM
Parcell's steals my OG John Jerry.

Ok, now I'm jumping on another DB Ghee or Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
Unless, Geno Atkins is there....

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 08:03 PM
Bears are FINALLY on the clock.

They take Major Wright.

kRocket
04-23-2010, 08:06 PM
You know, an accurate passer like Colt McCoy might not be a bad pick at 81. It's not like the Texans have a sure thing backing up a previously believed to be brittle QB in Matt Schaub.Agreed! We could do worse, but I think JD Booty was one of Roy's Boys in a previous draft so he might have value still.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 08:08 PM
Chad Jones to the Giants. Looks like the run on safeties is starting.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 08:08 PM
Agreed! We could do worse, but I think JD Booty was one of Roy's Boys in a previous draft so he might have value still.

If we are going to take a QB to compete with my man Booty, then let's wait and steal LeFevour.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 08:10 PM
2 FS Brandon Ghee
3 DT Geno Atkins
4 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
5 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim
7 S Darrell Stuckey
8 DT Cam Thomas

OK, Ghee is too valuable to pass up. So, I'll go Ghee and then Atkins.

Nconroe
04-23-2010, 08:13 PM
Well, I'm hoping for Akwasi Owusu-Ansah

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 08:16 PM
Broncos on the clock...Texans are on deck.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 08:16 PM
Well, I'm hoping for Akwasi Owusu-Ansah

That's fine. He's the same as Ghee except he's a return guy without as much technique as a DB.

Blitzwood
04-23-2010, 08:16 PM
1. Reshad Jones
2. Arthur Jones
2b. Jamar Chaney
3. Cam Thomas
4. Perrish Cox

Roy P
04-23-2010, 08:18 PM
Broncos on the clock...Texans are on deck.

Broncos take the last OL worth a $hit in this draft. J.D. Walton is a Denver Bronco.

Keith
04-23-2010, 08:20 PM
Earl Mitchell DT, Arizona

converted from tight end.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 08:20 PM
Earl Mitchell DT

Roy P
04-23-2010, 08:20 PM
Earl Mitchell? That was my 7th round guy if we didn't get Geno Atkins. Hmmm, WTF?!? Geno must run a Crystal Meth Lab in his garage. :confused:

Warren
04-23-2010, 08:24 PM
Is Arizona in the SEC?

nunusguy
04-23-2010, 08:24 PM
Earl Mitchell? That was my 7th round guy if we didn't get Geno Atkins. Hmmm, WTF?!? Geno must run a Crystal Meth Lab in his garage. :confused:

Did Smith & Kubiak not get a chance to consult with you before the Draft this year about DTs ? Otherwise, how come we're using 3rd round picks on 7th round talent ?

Blitzwood
04-23-2010, 08:24 PM
yaa earl mitchell .....yaay!

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 08:25 PM
Is Arizona in the SEC?

No, but they start with an A which must have confused them.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 08:26 PM
DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 286 Georgia 4.75 34 33 2.64 1.68 9.75 7.33 4.43 0.32 76.75 13.44 5.71
DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 25 28.5 2.69 1.56 8.92 7.68 4.55 0.2 62.42 13.79 4.53

The only thing Mitchell had a significant advantage in was that 10 yard split. That tells me something.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 08:28 PM
Sounds like a pure one-gap passing down type of d-tackle.

Keith
04-23-2010, 08:28 PM
Is Arizona in the SEC?

Did Dale Strahm just step out of the warroom to take a piss break?

Roy P
04-23-2010, 08:28 PM
Did Smith & Kubiak not get a chance to consult with you before the Draft this year about DTs ? Otherwise, how come we're using 3rd round picks on 7th round talent ?

I had Corey Peters ranked after Mitchell, so maybe I don't know what I'm looking for in DTs.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 08:30 PM
Bengals just took Jordan Shipley. He and Quan Cosby are reunited.

Keith
04-23-2010, 08:30 PM
DT Geno Atkins 6'2" 286 Georgia 4.75 34 33 2.64 1.68 9.75 7.33 4.43 0.32 76.75 13.44 5.71
DT Earl Mitchell 6'2" 296 4.75 25 28.5 2.69 1.56 8.92 7.68 4.55 0.2 62.42 13.79 4.53

The only thing Mitchell had a significant advantage in was that 10 yard split. That tells me something.

Totally... that's a huge split actually. 1.56 is a good number. Passing downs with Mitchell, Mario, and Barwin could be getting a lot more exciting.

kRocket
04-23-2010, 08:30 PM
The only thing Mitchell had a significant advantage in was that 10 yard split. That tells me something.
Yeah, Okoye please update your resume'.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 08:34 PM
Wow. How long has Mack Brown been lurking off stage to announce Colt's selection? Shipley goes to the Bengals but McCoy goes to the Browns. LOL

Warren
04-23-2010, 08:35 PM
Somebody tell Steve Young that Mike Holmgren is not the coach of the Browns.

Nconroe
04-23-2010, 08:35 PM
I guess Colt McCoy is a steal for Cleveland, but who knows.

nunusguy
04-23-2010, 08:38 PM
Pete Carrol is now on NFL Net - hey Mayoc ask him why he left his boy TM twisting slowly in the wind ?

TexanJedi
04-23-2010, 08:44 PM
Pete Carrol is now on NFL Net - hey Mayoc ask him why he left his boy TM twisting slowly in the wind ?

Billick asked that in a round about way.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 08:46 PM
I guess Colt McCoy is a steal for Cleveland, but who knows.

He could be rag doll after facing the Steelers and Ravens twice a year.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 08:48 PM
Texans in the on deck circle.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 08:48 PM
2 FS Brandon Ghee
6 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah

9 S Darrell Stuckey
10 DT Cam Thomas
11 CB Kevin Thomas
12 CB Alterraun Verner


A few DB's still available to help the secondary.

86 DE Daniel Te'o-Nesheim 6'4" 263 4.73 Washington
Those damned Eagles stole MY GUY!

TexanJedi
04-23-2010, 08:49 PM
Would Rolle be a fit at free safety?

Roy P
04-23-2010, 08:53 PM
Daniel Te'o-Nesheim Those damned Eagles stole MY GUY!

Just to make a note here, this is the 3rd round and My Guy was drafted BEFORE Everson Griffen. Daniel was listed as a 4th - 6th round pick. So, just another example of how the draft gurus and internet sites just guess like the rest of us.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 08:54 PM
Texans trade to Chiefs. We're done for tonight, folks.

Keith
04-23-2010, 08:54 PM
Trade!!!

With the Chiefs...


this could be good..

Nconroe
04-23-2010, 08:54 PM
we traded with chiefs. hope we got a bunch of picks this year or next perhaps.

popanot
04-23-2010, 08:56 PM
Chiefs have any more pick tonight?

Arky
04-23-2010, 08:58 PM
Chiefs have any more pick tonight?

They have the 4th tomorrow @ start of 4th round...

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 08:59 PM
We got a 4th and a 5th. The fourth is the fourth pick tomorrow.

popanot
04-23-2010, 09:00 PM
Heard the announcer in the background saying they got a 4th but couldn't hear the rest. 4th and a 5th??

Keith
04-23-2010, 09:02 PM
Texans get 102 and 144 for the 93rd pick... getting a 5th rounder back after giving it up to move up to draft Ben Tate.

Not too shabby.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 09:04 PM
Yeah, I'm still willing to take another DT so I'm keeping my options open. I think it is interesting that Jonathan Dwyer is still on the clock. Also Everson Griffen, Corey Wooton, Bruce Campbell, Dorin Dickerson, Ricky Sapp, Dennis Pitta, Dominique Franks (some mocks had us selecting him at 51).

1 FS/CB Brandon Ghee
2 DT Geno Atkins
3 CB Akwasi Owusu-Ansah
4 S Darrell Stuckey
5 DT Cam Thomas
6 CB Kevin Thomas
7 CB Alterraun Verner
8 LB Dekoda Watson
9 LB Jamar Chaney
10 LB Rennie Curran
11 OG Marshall Newhouse
12 CB Walter McFadden
13 LB AJ Edds
14 FS Robert Johnson

kRocket
04-23-2010, 09:06 PM
I wished they hadn't waited so long to learn how to trade down. If they had done this in the 1st round we probably could have had K.Jackson and another 2nd or 3rd. Or maybe they knew something I didn't know, nah that couldn't have been it.

Blitzwood
04-23-2010, 09:07 PM
So what is the draft pick count?

2-4th rounders,2- 5th rounders,and 2-6th rounders??

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 09:07 PM
There went Ghee to the Bengals.

nunusguy
04-23-2010, 09:09 PM
Yea, we ended up with the 4th in the 4th round and the 13th in the 5th round for tomorrow. 2 4th round picks tomorrow - hey that's worth showing on Saturday for, I like it.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 09:13 PM
There went Ghee to the Bengals.

That's a good value pick. Ghee to go with Leon Hall and Joseph. That Secondary just got better.

painekiller
04-23-2010, 09:17 PM
I have to hand it to Rick Smith he has done a wonderful job today moving around the board.

I retrack my statement from last night. Eric Winston's mock had the Packers taking Jackson at 23, and he said their was a lot of buzz about that pick. So that means their is no way they could trade out of #20 and still get the guy that is ready to play in the NFL today.

Then Rick goes out in the 2nd and trades down and get the RB this team needs. He was not my top choice in the 2nd, but he was a perfect fit for us. Good size and speed combo, and he has a tough guy style. The OL will like this kid.

Mitchell was not on my list due to size, but he is a lower pick from the same mold that Houston is from. High motor 3 technique that gets in the back field. Nice pick and he is from here.

So far a very nice draft.

HPF Bob
04-23-2010, 09:17 PM
Don't forget the 4th is historically our magic round.

Domanick Davis
Owen Daniels
Jacoby Jones
Fred Bennett

We find some players in that round so having two picks means we have two chances to find a stud.

Sounds like this starts at 9 a.m. tomorrow. :eek:

Nconroe
04-23-2010, 09:17 PM
at this time looks like remaining picks are
4th rnd
pick 4 or 102 overall
pick 20 or 118 overall

5th round
pick 13 or 144 overall

6th round
pick 18 or 187 overall
pick 28 or 197 overall

7th round
20th pick or 227 overall

so, six more picks to speculate what we will do with. doing very good so far.

Roy P
04-23-2010, 09:39 PM
I have to hand it to Rick Smith he has done a wonderful job today moving around the board.

Then Rick goes out in the 2nd and trades down and get the RB this team needs. He was not my top choice in the 2nd, but he was a perfect fit for us. Good size and speed combo, and he has a tough guy style. The OL will like this kid.

Mitchell was not on my list due to size, but he is a lower pick from the same mold that Houston is from. High motor 3 technique that gets in the back field. Nice pick and he is from here.

So far a very nice draft.

Every pick has been one of "My Guys" so I'm thrilled. Mitchell was a guy I saw as a late round steal that other sites had undervalued. The same goes for Corey Peters. I would have preferred Geno Atkins, but at least we are addressing a pass-rushing 3-Tech that may push Okoye. While I had Spiller, Best, and Gerhart rated higher on my Draft Board, Ben Tate was my FAVORITE RB choice so, I'm thrilled about that choice. Glad we have been able to make some deals to get some extra picks.

Tomorrow, I'm expecting to be able to get some DBs to augment the Secondary (AOA, Stuckey, Verner, Johnson). Perhaps a LB to push Diles at the WILL. Lauvao went earlier than I expected, so if we get OL help I'd start with Marshall Newhouse. I'm not sure if we get another DL but I'd be accepting of Geno or Cam Thomas. Will we get another RB to complement Tate? Dwyer, Dixon, Starks, Miller, Bell, Karim.

kRocket
04-23-2010, 09:48 PM
Roy, I expect you to have a brand new 'my guys' by tomorrow. ;)

Arky
04-24-2010, 01:32 AM
If they use all their remaining picks, training camp is just going to be a mass of talent this year - 9 from the draft.... The training camp fodder seems to get less and less each year..... Probably a lot of tough cuts on the horizon...:cool:

painekiller
04-24-2010, 02:53 AM
If they use all their remaining picks, training camp is just going to be a mass of talent this year - 9 from the draft.... The training camp fodder seems to get less and less each year..... Probably a lot of tough cuts on the horizon...:cool:

Or they could still trade back up with some of the picks.

TexanJedi
04-24-2010, 08:06 AM
Don't forget the 4th is historically our magic round.

Domanick Davis
Owen Daniels
Jacoby Jones
Fred Bennett

We find some players in that round so having two picks means we have two chances to find a stud.

Sounds like this starts at 9 a.m. tomorrow. :eek:

Glover Quinn too.